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Our nation would like a joint space program between many nations, with the following goals:

~ The design and production of a low-cost, ecological, and efficient space vehicle (e.g space shuttle)

~ The design and production of a joint space station for research purposes

~ The design of space probes to investigate other planets in our solar system

~ The design and production of telescopes (a la Hubble) that will significantly further our knowledge of the cosmos.

Our objectives are scientific and technological; a lunar base is in discussion. We have no wishes for any sort of military in space.

The following nations are currently involved:

Rebeland
The Zoogie People & its colony The Zoogies
Silverlecim & its colony Minor Silverlecim (who introduced the idea in Rebeland's thread)
Burcemia
Andmerica
Halo Gods
Alexandroupolis
TechnoGeeks
Doujin
Chancland
Quality Assurance
General Humor
Meramoso
Sybaritia
Saragual
The 7th Fleet
Lifesbeengoodtome
Cratership
Eye Rock
Lost Atrieds
Penguisiana
Simpsonsrgr8
Thakan Dar
Tulrania
Midlonia
Chazzikstan
Split Dreams
Lioy


Funding in part by Five Civilized Nations, M92FS, and Eredron. We owe them so much. Expert advice also provided by Inauna.

If I forgot anyone or you would like to participate in this program (which will result in the creation of a Joint Space Agency, I suppose) please post. Each nation should expect to fund this program...I will set the timetable at two weeks from now so we can get a healthy number of nations.

I believe all participating nations should be newer ones; October or newer, just so we don't have some 0-200 mil nations doing this and then a gigantic 1.2 billion nation comes along and funds 60% of the program...;)

This thread made on request of Eredron.

Online forum:

s3.invisionfree.com/Joint_Space_Program

my nation is just getting into the space program, with satelites and such. It sounds very interesting and i would be happy to offer my services.

What is the name of your group, I would gladly join it!

How about the Young Nations Space Exploration and Experimentation Society? YNSEES. Has an interesting ring to it.

How about the Young Nations Space Exploration and Experimentation Society? YNSEES. Has an interesting ring to it.

i bloody like it! i mean, i wont be able to speak it without reading it off a piece of paper, but i like it :wink:

We'll work it into our memories over time I suppose.

How about the International Society of Space Exploration and Experimentation. ISSEE. I see. You see?

Add us in, for we will help in any way that is possible

Minor is sort of a puppet. I wanted to be in two regions but obviously I couldn't so I just created this one and now I use it on the forum. I have a different nation for experimenting. Silverlecim is a democracy but I made the other one a dictatorship for fun. I also use it for a bit of spying so I can't reveal its name.

Minor is sort of a puppet. I wanted to be in two regions but obviously I couldn't so I just created this one and now I use it on the forum. I have a different nation for experimenting. Silverlecim is a democracy but I made the other one a dictatorship for fun. I also use it for a bit of spying so I can't reveal its name.

The Dominion and Principalities of Eredron fully supports this international effort to explore the great mysteries of space; the Eredron Space & Exploration Agency is fully committed to coordinating it's efforts with this international group.

Due to tensions between the Eredron government and foreign powers, the Dominion must be cautious in its monetary donation; however, the Senate of Majorities has voted to deliver a grant of twenty billion Marks to this international effort, and is prepared to significantly increase this amount as soon as the Naori-Galdania conflict is resolved.

((International Space Exploration Agency is a satisfactory name for this.))

I speak for everyone in thanking you for your generous donation.

How do you access the national budget?

Alexandroupolis would like to help in any way possible to further any space exploration.

OOC: You can use this GDP calculator.

http://www.esyn.org/SOTA/NationStates.html

lately I nation has been doing quite well, i have a national budget of just over 1.5 trillion so i could put a set amoumt aside each year for the space program. How much?

OOC: For RL comparison, in 2001 the annual budget for NASA was about 16 billion USD.

OOC: For RL comparison, in 2001 the annual budget for NASA was about 16 billion USD.

we not be NASA but we can match that amount anyday :wink:

OOC: For RL comparison, in 2001 the annual budget for NASA was about 16 billion USD.

we not be NASA but we can match that amount anyday :wink:

NASA also received the least amount of funding of all the agencies; I list it only for comparison purposes.

So does anyone actually have plans for a spaceship?

Should it be a short term shuttle, like just able to do lunar missions. Or more of a long term shuttle which will last for many years.....hmmmmm, we have some planning ahead....

It'll be worth it. Let's get to work. I'll start searching NASA stuff.

So does anyone actually have plans for a spaceship?

Eredron has successfully launched several missions into space, manned and unmanned, as well as landing men on the moon.

Our current shuttle design is the ESS-5 Alpha, a space shuttle capable of reentering the atmosphere and landing.

Seen here is the shuttle, after completing Eredron's seventh successful space mission:

http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/gallery/images/shuttle/sts-113/med/sts113-s-043.jpg

Here is ESEA's concept photo of Eredron's planned Lunar Colony, and the Inter-Relay Communications System:

http://www.tlproductions.com/mooncolony.jpg


http://www.tlproductions.com/debark.jpg

It'll be worth it. Let's get to work. I'll start searching NASA stuff.


time to google! :D

that would be a considerable piece of our budget....very interesting thought.

I'd like to join. I have already spent billions on Space Programms, and I have shuttle design. I have sent manned missions into space, I have wather sattlites, GPS sattilites and the works. :roll:

Population: 357,000,000
Civil Rights: Very Good
Economy: Strong
GDP per Capita: $12,500
GDP: $4,462,500,000,000
National Budget: $1,203,750,450,000
My current shuttle is RST-279 Delta. No pic.

I suggest a lunar station and an orbital one. It'll be pricy but it doesn't all have to be at once. All we'd really need are short flight transport shuttles. And by short flight I mean just one journey straight to the destination, rather than sitting around in space having fun floating around. Also, we might want to establish some tourism. Maybe a lunar golf course. Of course the tourism part would be later, but it would be nice to have something to do for the people up there.

Rafale, we're looking more to get into space on our own, but you could help with the planning. Thanks for the offer.

perhaps, to expand the budget we should do what was raised in an issue. Advertise using our shuttles and stations, tourism is a great idea too. Some sort of lunar hotel, the japs would love it. and pay millions for it.

Yeah. A hotel and golf course. Maybe a world class sports arena. Super Bowl XXXVIII at the Mars Bowl. Big bucks. And lots of baseball teams do exhibition games out of the country. It'd be pricy, but definitely worth it in the end.

((Might I remind you the US has been in space for decades, and such tourist attractions are still decades away? Don't get ahead of yourselves))

Eredron considers a space station a first step towards establishing a lunar colony; the colonization of the moon is our primary goal, and a first step towards further expansion into the solar system.

((Might I remind you the US has been in space for decades, and such tourist attractions are still decades away? Don't get ahead of yourselves))

Eredron considers a space station a first step towards establishing a lunar colony; the colonization of the moon is our primary goal, and a first step towards further expansion into the solar system.

yeah we know, but were excited and want to think ahead to all the glorious things we could do in the future. And none of what you have said comes cheap.....technology must be quite advanced too.

yeah we know, but were excited and want to think ahead to all the glorious things we could do in the future. And none of what you have said comes cheap.....technology must be quite advanced too.

That is why Eredron is initially committing tens of billions of Marks to this endeavor and prepared to perhaps double our contribution, in addition to the hundreds of billions already spent on our twenty year space program.

The U.S. is only one country. We're... more than one country. Anyway, we need to look at plans for the production of shuttles and taxis.

OOC:
From various sources:

Research in the station's six laboratories will lead to discoveries in medicine, materials and fundamental science that will benefit people all over the world. Through its research and technology, the station also will serve as an indispensable step in preparation for future human space exploration.

Examples of the types of U.S. research that will be performed aboard the station include:

· Protein crystal studies
· Tissue culture
· Life in low gravity
· Flames, fluids and metal in space
· The nature of space
· Watching the Earth
· Commercialization

And for your viewing pleasure..

http://www.shuttlepresskit.com/images/iss/iss_sunrise.jpg

OOC: I was continuing my astronomical studies, and came across this (http://science.howstuffworks.com/space-station.htm)

EDIT: Link fixed. Also, an excerpt from the above link:

The assembly of the ISS in orbit began in 1998. The ISS has more than 100 components and will require 44 spaceflights by at least three space vehicles (space shuttle, Soyuz and Russian Proton rocket) to deliver the components into orbit. One-hundred sixty spacewalks, totaling 1,920 man-hours, will be required to assemble and maintain the ISS, which is scheduled for completion in 2006 and will have an anticipated life of 10 years at a projected total cost of $35 to $37 billion. When completed, the ISS will be able to house up to seven astronauts.



Consul Supreme McCallister
Head of State, Dominion and Principalities of Eredron
http://www.ccadp.org/flag-trinidad.gif (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/page=display_nation/nation=eredron)

Rebeland will offer its services in any way possible.

I think for now it's just OOC look up stuff...we haven't (or at least, I haven't) found much on materials to use that would make it cheap and strong (titanium perhaps? <--random guess) or on a space station...

((Might I remind you the US has been in space for decades, and such tourist attractions are still decades away? Don't get ahead of yourselves))

Because NASA is underfunded and not streamlined. Also it stays strictly American. It doesnt do a lot of technology sharing, thus it can always get what could be better for it.

In any case, I wish to have our goals for the forseeable future and for all of the future, I hope, to be turned from business...there are much more practical scientific aspects to what we're doing :) And I know we may need space colonies...lunar colony for research is good, but golf courses? We're all staying modern tech, aren't we? We're not transforming into future tech...which is improbably because we tend to overestimate ourselves...twenty years ago somebody could have told me we'd be running off solar energy today with no pollution and have all sorts of spaceships ... and had I been born back then, I probably would have believed it :)

As was said, we need to keep in mind the exploratory, scientific, and educational aspects of space existence, not the recreational benefits!

*bump*

Doujinshi Corpoation would like to join up. We will gladly send some of our finest engineers and scientists to aid in the construction of a space station and space launch vehicle. Doujinshi Corporation will also fund 20,000,000,000.

http://www.angelfire.com/ar3/doujin/logo (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=100828)

Doujin Defense Systems, Doujinshi Corporation subsidiary, is also interested in taking advantage of this unique opportunity. It offers our business a good platform at which to start our planned space scientific research center; owned and operated by DDS. We will, of course, fund and give manpower to the project.

http://www.angelfire.com/ar3/doujin/dds1.JPG

I would like to note that the joint space program is only for exploratory purposes. Military intentions are solely carried out by your own government.

((Might I remind you the US has been in space for decades, and such tourist attractions are still decades away? Don't get ahead of yourselves))

Because NASA is underfunded and not streamlined. Also it stays strictly American. It doesnt do a lot of technology sharing, thus it can always get what could be better for it.

I noted this on the 2nd page: "NASA also received the least amount of funding of all the agencies; I list it only for comparison purposes."

Communique, Members of the International Space Exploration Agency

As we begin on this noble endeavour of exploring this last frontier, I wish to first express to you the great enthusiasm shared by my government, and by the people of Eredron.

I offer, for the use of this international coalition, the launch site and facilities at the city of Danfalls, the headquarters of the Eredron Space and Exploration Agency. The extensive launch site is in a favorable condition, with a temperate climate year-round, and easy access by ship and air. The housing complex and other facilities could be expanded at minimal cost, and the launch site upgraded and extended as necessary.

My nation would be glad to join.

After being personally invited by the nation of the Zoogie People, Chancland will be coming aboard.

From His most royal majesty, Manos Hand of Fate, Knight of the Old Republic, Hero of Might and Magic, Lord of Destruction, the Sinister Minister of Faust, Warrior of Destiny, Lawrence of Arabia, Phantom of the Opera, Legend of Aranna, Cab of Calloway, Shadow of Undrentide, Satchmo of Armstrong, Tale of the Sword Coast, Shadow of Amn, Cloud of Xeen, Master of Disaster, Legend of Zelda, King of Fighters, Arc the Lad, Fist of the North Star, Man of Steel, Man Without Fear, Man from La Mancha, Brother from Another Planet, Prisoner of Azkaban, Friend of P, Secret of Mana, Prisoner of Zenda, Master of Orion, Prince of Persia, Marquis de Carabas, Lord of the Rings, King Ninja the Hypoglycemic

To the associated nations of the fledgeling international space agency

Greetings, my honoured brothers and sisters. We hope this electronic missive finds you hale and hearty, your respective nations prosperous and content. We send this message as a gesture of esteem, respect and goodwill, in the hopes that our fair nation of socially-disadvantaged, technologically-inclined intellectuals may be of assistance in your endeavour. Our intelligentsia and illuminati are known throughout the DeCoSta region as men and women of honour, ability and among the best LAN-partyers, case-modders and overclockers.

We would be honoured to join your international space agency, and have a few suggestions of our own, compliments of our esteemed Ministry of Theoretical Science and Engineering. In addition to offering the services of the fine gentlemen and gentlewomen of the Ministry of Quality Assurance for all of your software testing needs, our Ministry of Systems Administration can set up all the communications and electronic computing apparatus necessary for the proper operation of any interplanetary craft, occupied or not.

The MTSE has also suggested that, in addition to plans for stellar craft to be launched from the Earth, further funding be given to researching the possibility of a massive space elevator, which would allow for materiel and personnel to be quickly and easily transported to a station physically tethered to the ground. This elevator would be far more economical in the long run in the construction of an orbital space station or any habitable colony.

We thank you for your attention, and hope to hear from you soon.


LTC Dame Annabeth Wesson-Smythe
Royal Order of Deckers

No. That's impossible unless we find some unbelievably strong material. And even then it would cost quadrillions. A space to Earth taxi would be most efficient.

so how are the designs for the shuttles coming along? I have also seen lots people wanting to donate, we will explore and discover everything there is to know about space.

They're not really coming along at all. We're still debating.

Yeah, a gigantic elevator is impossible. So, as for debating about the space taxi...

~ what should it be made of?

~ what should the dimensions be?

~ what should the engines be?

~ how do we make it safe and efficient?

~ what do we want the price per unit to be?

~ how many people should it be able to carry?

~ how will it fit into a design for a space station?

The ESEA is constantly researching and testing new material to use in the construction of space vessels; we will release our findings soon if new, suitable material is found, or if possible enhancements can be made on the current material we use.

What will the purpose of this proposed "space taxi" be? Transporting astronauts from a space station to a moon colony? Or for the launching of astronauts into space? Current engine designs would be suitable; research into powering spacecraft through nuclear methods would be acceptable, as long as the research and development was strictly monitored by the Dominion to prevent the misuse of the technology.

wait a minute I have design and good bluprint of a good design for the new space taxi. And buildings to build on the moon for humans.

wait a minute I have design and good bluprint of a good design for the new space taxi. And buildings to build on the moon for humans.


http://www.ipt.arc.nasa.gov/spacetransport.html




http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2002/images/rightstuff/marshab.jpg

wait a minute I have design and good bluprint of a good design for the new space taxi. And buildings to build on the moon for humans.

could we see these? *gets over excited :D *

From the desk of His most omnivorent Majesty, the Sinister Minister of Faust, Warrior of Destiny, Lawrence of Arabia, Phantom of the Opera, Legend of Aranna, Cab of Calloway, Shadow of Undrentide, Satchmo of Armstrong, Tale of the Sword Coast, Shadow of Amn, Cloud of Xeen, Master of Disaster, Legend of Zelda, King of Fighters, Arc the Lad, Fist of the North Star, Man of Steel, Man Without Fear, King Ninja the Verisimilitudinous

To the associated nations of the fledgeling space agency

Our suggestion of a space elevator is not one of mere fancy or whim. Due to recent advances in the fields of materials engineering and nanotechnology, of which our Ministry of Nanotechnology and Ministry of Theoretical Science and Engineering are especially fond, it is theoreticlly possible to build an elevator with which to send personnel and materiel. As carbon nanotubes are now mass-produceable, the space elevator and skyhook concepts are very real ones.

For further reference, please consult this web page (http://www.space.com/businesstechnology/technology/space_elevator_020327-1.html) on the subject. We thank the esteemed nations of this ambitious endeavour for their candour and dedication.


Sir Alexandre Prudhomme
Royal Order of Deckers


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the pictures are on my post. :D

The Free Land of Meramoso is willing to contribute 1.5 Billion Meramosian Dollars (roughly equivalent to the USD) to the peaceful and scientific advancement of mankind in space.

However, it is Meramoso's opinion that this newly formed collective should begin with less ambitious projects such as the launch of a sattelite or unmanned probe.

Our nation would like to get a piece of this whole space venture.
How can we help?

Once we have decided on a final design for our space shuttle, my people will be more than glad to take on the role of building the shuttles.
-Prime Minister of Foreign Affairs

*Open communiqué from Grant Morrison PhD Secretary of Science and Technology, James Nootron BSc Secretary of Energy and Kimberly Swanson Secretary of The Environment*

Due to problems with solar flares over this region yesterday [affecting our communications feed] [OOC: D@mn connection kept dropping] [IC] we were unable to announce our intention to share our space programme’s findings with the proposed ISSEE, adding our nation to the list of participating countries. The main areas of R&D we are concentrating on at the moment are:

Ion drive systems
Robotics [The emphasis being on leading missions to take atmospheric readings and soil samples as well as seeding environments for future manned missions]
Geodesic dome environments [for use on other worlds/lunar environments]
Environmental processing [recycling and air filtration systems for use in spacecraft]

We are also working on adding funding for a terra-forming programme to our national budget.

<Additional: The long-term projections for the use of space elevators have more pro’s than they do cons. This technology is rapidly becoming more attainable and as budgets allow we shall also be adding this to our national space programme>.

the holy empire of saraqual have a wish to join this noble endeavour of exploring the secrets of the final frontier.
if you will have us we are most eager to join.

The 7th fleet would be willing to put our finest scientists to your aid in this joint space program, We would also be willing to defend a launch site in such case that it was attacked :) Financial and Material aid are at hand please Send us a message of your reply.

sorry but my nation is tiny winy and we do not have funds to throw away on this 'lunartic' project. anyway my peeps are spaced out enough on dope without going into space. i have also heard that space is cold ... we prefer our sunshine in the pacific.

nef :wink:

Queen Nefertari
Your nation is larger than mine... has a better economy... and my population has to be at least as stoned as yours... I guess the cold must really get to you... 'ere have some Kali Mist and relax. :wink:

T. Funk Shabata - Consul - Sybaritia

Guess what I have the proto-type space taxi built.

The Dominion and Principalities of Eredron henceforth absolves itself of any connection with this proposed international space agency.

We have now in production a form of the Soyuz space craft. It could be used as an escape vehicle for a space station or as a taxi in space. The one problem is it is not reusable if it is used as a reentry vehicle.
-Department of Space Exploration

The Five Civilized Nations is willing to fund the entire project. We are preparing to wire US$50 billion to the joint-nations space program

That brings the total to what, 76 billion? 26 from me, and 50 from 5CN

OOC: Hey my military budget is over 2 trillion and climbing... Its not like I need all that money anyways... Plus, I'm "bribing" you guys so my companies can win the massive aerospace contracts... :wink:

IC:

5CN's Crusade Aerospace, a subsidiary of Crusade Corporation, has decided to put up a bid for this new space program. Because of its long history with aerospace technologies, Crusade Aerospace, expects the win the contracts...

Doujin regrets not being able to donate further funds - we are getting ready to contract out the building of a state of the art 5 trillion dollar space launch and control center.

I donate. 20 billion... it's partially my project so I figure it's an investment in myself.

Anyway: A launch pad site has been designated on the outskirts of Silverlecim City. An airport to fly in diplomats from other countries is nearing completion. There is also the Silverlecim City International Airport, but having a national leader fly in through there would cause a humongous clogging of all flights through it so don't fly in unless you have to. The Silverlecim City Seaport, however, is open to anyone who would like to come see the site. I believe this is a major step in the program.

early bump. I'll be gone soon anyhow. so bumpety bump bump bump... mwahahahahahaha!!! :evil: :twisted: :shock: :lol: :wink: :D :) :( :cry:

As soon as our facilities are completed, we would like to launch the first spacecraft as a "ground breaking ceremony" for our new control centre.

Doujin regrets not being able to donate further funds - we are getting ready to contract out the building of a state of the art 5 trillion dollar space launch and control center.

Bids...

The Colony of Cratership happily offers its services in the creation of a joint space program.

The Dominion of Thakan Dar has begun an independent space program: the Star Force Agency. Any nationstates willing to contribute to a rival space program are welcome to do so. Let the Nationstates Space Race begin!



Tyrre Falchion, Director of Celestial Affairs
Dominion of Thakan Dar

Although Eredron has withdrawn from this international effort due to other concerns and reasons beyond its control, the Dominion wishes the agency the best. The Dominion wishes to leave this international coalition with 10 billion Marks to help it begin. Furthermore, we pledge full cooperation between our own space agency, the ESEA, and this international group. As we continue in our space efforts, our future space stations and lunar colonies will be open to this agency, as well as the use of our Inter-Relay Comm. System.

To which agency do you refer, esteemed delegate of the Dominion and Principalities of Eredron?



Tyrre Falchion, Director of Celestial Affairs
Dominion of Thakan Dar

The International Space Agency((or whatever name has been decided upon)). We feel a margin of responsibility for the welfare and success of this effort.

Duly noted, Eredron.



Tyrre Falchion, Director of Celestial Affairs
Dominion of Thakan Dar

I have just read the disturbing report of a sighting of a high speed, unknown object over Braxengrad. This seems a good enough reason for a space program to us (call us paranoid if you want) but we've all seen Independance Day and Invasion of the Body Snatchers.

Count "Lifesbeengoodtome" in

I have just read the disturbing report of a sighting of a high speed, unknown object over Braxengrad. This seems a good enough reason for a space program to us (call us paranoid if you want) but we've all seen Independance Day and Invasion of the Body Snatchers.

Count "Lifesbeengoodtome" in

Don't worry, only one of my spy planes...

I have just read the disturbing report of a sighting of a high speed, unknown object over Braxengrad. This seems a good enough reason for a space program to us (call us paranoid if you want) but we've all seen Independance Day and Invasion of the Body Snatchers.

Count "Lifesbeengoodtome" in

Don't worry, only one of my spy planes...

Lifesbeengoodtome, I am counting you in, but if you're hoping for a system that can shoot down any high-speed unidentified objects flying around...you won't find it here. This isn't military...military in space is imho too future-tech.

Cratership now also included.

5CN, I thought it was one of Trailer's spy planes?...

Eredron, thank you for your financing, we hope for a bright future for our respective space agencies.

Thakan Dar: Bring it. :twisted:

Joint Space Program will have its own board soon, under the name of JSP, because it's aesthetically pleasing, and because we don't have an agency name yet.

What the Dominion and its Star Force Agency brings is healthy and, I daresay, lucrative competition. The Russians and Americans competed for years in the space race and it had a most profound effect on the advance of technology. The incentive to be first and best is a magnificent motivator and innovator. Necessity may be the mother of invention, but ambition is one its fathers.

In the spirit of competition and innovation, Thakan Dar once again offers a rival and alternative space agency for nationstates to join and contribute to.


C. Shandon Brin
Prime Administrator, Star Force Agency
Dominion of Thakan Dar

Me and my colonies would like to join

M92FS
:arrow: Eye Rock
:arrow: Loganistan
:arrow: Lindbergistan
:arrow: Air Soft Warriors
:arrow: The Nation To End All

We have trillions in excess funds from our two storefronts

!!!Absolutely the Best Naval Vessels, Redone!!!
!!!Absolutely the Best Military Vehicles, Redone!!! {or something like that}

We would be grateful if you keep us updated on if we are excepted and any developements or need of monetary funds.

The Grand Prime Minister of M92FS, speaking for the Prime Ministers of her colonies and people.

Lifesbeengoodtome, I am counting you in, but if you're hoping for a system that can shoot down any high-speed unidentified objects flying around...you won't find it here. This isn't military...military in space is imho too future-tech.

Cratership now also included.

5CN, I thought it was one of Trailer's spy planes?...

Eredron, thank you for your financing, we hope for a bright future for our respective space agencies.

Thakan Dar: Bring it. :twisted:

It was, but it was also mine... I have people and bugs on every single one of Trailer's spy planes. But shush, nobody else knows...

And Thakan Dar, please don't godmod anywhere...

Oh yeah, one of my puppets, the Lost Atreides will join... Its population is a little over 500 million, I believe...

500 Mil is still almost four times my population. But that is acceptable.

Oh dear... :shock:

M92FS, we would appreciate funds from you and your colonies; however there are obviously some concerns about your involvement because the other nations are much newer...perhaps one of your colonies could join? You would still receive production rights through that colony, but technically only that colony is involved with the program.

Sure thing. Just ask for as much as you want. I won't put any of my massive nations in...so I think Eye Rock is the newest but that has close to 500 million i think. Well i don't care as long as i help and then get the production rights.

Remember just ask for anything.

Yeah you is small.

Oh and yeah to start it out

10 Trillion electronically wired to the account that is used for this space program.

What is "godmod"?

Yeah you is small.

Oh and yeah to start it out

10 Trillion electronically wired to the account that is used for this space program.

Ahem, I doubt you have 10 trillion to spare...

Even I don't...
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Five Civilized Nations
-Colonies/Puppets
--The Blood Elves
--Swordmasters of Ginaz
--House Ecaz
--The Lost Atreides[/code:1:41a1be448b]

Probably...

Okay, nevermind. I read the godmod-ing sticky.

However, 5CN, I would like to point out that I haven't, by definition, been godmod-ing. I have offered a rival agency and solicited contributors - I have not, as yet, produced anything but an agency, which is well within my nation's capability.

If you're referring to other threads, the situation has been rectified.

per invitation of the zoogie people, Penguisiana is coming aboard this program

I cannot join due to my size and your wishes for use to not join, but I think that this jump is a very good step. If you will allow me, I would like to give you a suggestion. If he is willing, I know that Doujin has a recently made space launch system. Being his ally, I made if for him.

No. He hasn't laucnhed yet, I'm saying he has the proper facilities. Very good ones.

He is joined in. Look at your list.

It's k!

I don't think he wants production rights, considering his size...

I don't know, some of you are very smart. I would do it just to help though. An ally earned is worth ten enemies dead on the ground. Well... sometimes. I am, in fact, wiring 30 billion USD to help further this project. If this is too much or too little, just tell me.

The nation of Inauna wishes to participate in this joint space program.
We currently have a launch site which has been in use for a few months now.
It is fairly new and so far we have been launching communcation satellites with our band of rockets. We wish to have some expert advice on building our own brand of heavy-lift rockets for future launches of our own space platforms and transport vehicles.

The expert advice of Inauna is accepted, as well as possible use of their launch site. Note that we are a group of Oct + nations who are trying to get into space on our own :)

Jangle Jangle Ridge, funds are sufficient, we thank you for your generous donation.

r u still accepting more ppl??
i'll gladly join ur space program. :D

Yes, we are...and we can't really deny anyone except nations that are too large since we're all newer anations ;) Welcome aboard. Please visit the forum.

As it seems apparent that nationstates have no desire to compete, but instead to jump on the bandwagon;

And as the Dominion of Thakan Dar is an infant nationstate - ambitious beyond its current means;

And as Prime Director Sabian Xalar has decreed it;

The Star Force Agency and its subsidiaries hereby adds its support to the as-yet-unnamed joint space program. In addition, we submit for approval by the member nationstates the following suggestions for the joint space program:

Nationstates Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA)
Confederation of Nationstate Space Agencies (CNSA)
Stellar Union of Nationstates (SUN)

or, as previously suggested,

Joint Space Program (JSP)

The Star Force Agency suggests a poll of the joint space program's current members.


C. Shandon Brin
Prime Administrator, Star Force Agency
Dominion of Thakan Dar

great.
so how do we get this thing 2 work, donate money etc

p.s name is wrong on member nations list

Good Morning fellow National Leaders,

I come to you of this Joint Nation Space Agency to request that the Confederated Republic of Tulrania, otherwise commonly known as the Confederacy of Tulrania, be allowed to join in on this quest for a unified effort of peace and prosperity with nations of this world.

It would be my honor to have the Confederate Aerospace Operations Command membership in this endeavor of friendship and unity. Tulrania's first and newest Space Shuttle Orbiter, the CAS Independence, will, if you shall allow us to join, be used for this purpose of exploration and experimentation of space.

The Confederate Aerospace Operations Command had a Orbital Shipyard in planning to make and a few other things to go along with this new adventure for our nation of Tulrania, however if it is allowed that we join we shall halt and place aside this Orbital Shipyard and happily abide by what Endeavor and mission you wish to do.

The CAS Independence is like any other Shuttle Orbiter, just upgraded and basicly Space Worthy. It would be our nations honor to help your cause greatly, for we shall begin right away with any mission you set forth.

-Signed Respectfully-
Commander in Chief Alexander Reign
-Leader of the Confederacy of Tulrania

Henceforth even if we are denied it shall be known and done that hereby the Confederated Republic of Tulrania donates 100 Million Credits to the cause of this Joint Nation Space Agency as this Confederated Republic see's fit for this Endeavor of Peace and Unity to go forth and bring a new age of peace and prosperity.

Donation- 100 Million Tulranian Credits
Credits may and shall, if it is seen fit, be transformed into any and all currency seen fit to be placed as. Henceforth any transofrmation of currency shall and will always be seen as 100 Million in amount.

Hey, don't leave us out of the space craft bid. We are willing to put up any amount of money and science techs in our power to ensure this bid.

HRH's government answer's the Zoogie people call and will assist in what it can, perhaps it could ship some low grade uranium to investigate experimentation on for uses of power?

Although we havn't taken the leap into space yet, we are working on designs to just that. We are installing our newest design, and going to test it as soon as installation is complete.

http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/air-breathing-rocket-maglevlaunch.jpg

Plans are being made for a Doujin space station

http://www.spaceislandgroup.com/images/blueview1.jpg

Construction for what we call a "Orbital Maneuvering Vehicle" is complete.

http://www.spaceislandgroup.com/Gallery/OMV/omv009a.jpg

Our current space shuttle design

http://www.spaceislandgroup.com/Information/Shuttle_Information/shuttle2b.jpg

(Now if we would just launch it..)

Doujin...nice :) Do you have a smaller, space taxi design?

I'm prepared to offer you quite a sum for the development of such space vessels. I'll join and do the necessary things.

Welcome...please visit the forum guys...;)

s3.invisionfree.com/Joint_Space_Program

I'm back. Sorry it took so long. Anyway, the launch site has been constructed, but I still don't have pictures (and I probably never will so don't hold your breath), and the airport is ready as well. Major progress. How much money has been donated now?

A lot...we'll have to go through this to keep track...thats why an offsite forum's better. I'm donating 30 bil as well thru my colony.

Well, have we made any more plans about what we're going to build in space... Orbital stations, lunar bases... Maybe a nice golf course so that I can hit the ball the 500 yards with a little help from the old low gravity...hehehe.

My lunar probe is flying soon...first comes the space taxi, then space station...h/o its on the forum...

Chazzikstan would love to join the Space Program :D

Lunar probe... hope it doesn't run into anything. I think I'll launch one too. Maybe I could have it scout a good location for the golf course... I'll tell my engineers to feed it pictures of Pebble Beach and Bethpaige and all the other courses that are happy happy. And it'll create a par 10 2,000 yard hole... Mwahahahaha. Or I could just have it do climate research and analyze rock sample's chemical makeup. I think I'll go with option 2.

Ill add Chazzikstan when I get back. gtg

Hmmm... Does anyone else have plans for anything?

Split Dreams wishes to become a member of this organisation We are willing to pay 10 Billion Galeons towards the program, followed by a yearly sum of 5 Billion Galeons.
We hope it is not too late to join and look forward to being a part of this unique adventure.

HRH, Elizabeth I.

On behalf of the government and the people of Chazzikstan, I thank you for allowing us to join in this unique, peaceful opportunity to explore the far reaches of space in order to better human life here on Earth.

It's never too late to join. We could always use more victims- I mean nations. Anyway my country is holding conferences. Any national leader who wishes to attend will be flown in through luxurious Silverlecim International Government Airport. It is a high security airport for national leaders and diplomats only.

We thank you for being so welcoming and would be honoured to be the latest addition to your list of victi....i mean Nations. Please send us more details of this conference. Unfortunately i myself cannot attend but i am sure my daughter would be happy to stand in for me.
Our country has already started a minor space program of its own, nothing in comparison to this. We did, however, begin to plan a unit of Space Marines. A project that could easily be resurected.
Yous, HRH Elizabeth I

The conference is for general planning of what we're sending up, how we're sending it up, and when we're sending it up. This includes space and lunar stations, space taxis, space probes, and the amount of money and time we're going to spend on everything. Money isn't really an issue at this point thanks to all the donations we're receiving, but we have to have some plan as to what to do with it all. I realize many victims already have stations and shuttles planned, but there's always room for improvement. Leaders are welcome to send themselves, their advisors, engineers, or bodyguards, though we'll supply 200 per person anyway and a base of 500 per nation (I told you the airport was high security, though it may end up being somewhat cramped even with its humongous size) and each delegation will have its own motorcade, though we advise you to stay at the hotel, as we have had some trouble with other nations in the past. The accomodations at the hotel include an indoor theme park/ water park, a fitness center, 9 world class 5 star restaraunts (a sushi bar, a Mexican restaraunt, an Italian restaraunt, an Indian restaraunt, an Oriental restaraunt, a steakhouse, a French restaraunt, a burger restaraunt (not McDonalds, better than that), and a Morrocan restaraunt, and I hope I speled restaraunt rite) free of charge, a massage center, a spa, and various other tihngs. Each room is the sizze of a mansion (you have no idea how much this cost) and room service is free :D I'm sure your leaders will be most pleased. For engineering, we have created one of the worlds fastest known computers, capable of 10 trillion teraflops per second, and the widest array of tools of measurement we could find, for all purposes. So come on in.

OOC: Now that I look at this, I talked more about the accomodations than the service... Oh well :lol: :wink:

Someone better read that because I didnt write that much for nothing.

Someone MUST read this!!!!!!!!!! Please!!! People!!!

very interesting... how can i be a part of it??

I have spare Uranium if you need some.

The New Dragons Government

Perhaps you would like to join our group?

Lioy, you can join anytime. I guess Zoogie People will count you in.

We thank you for your offer of bodyguards for our Princess but we do not need them, our own forces will be more than happy to do the job. 20 SDSS (Split Dreams Secret Service) Agents will provide the backbone of our force. Close Protection is provided by 4 of our Special Air Service (SAS). This will be all we require for her, we trust you and will be happy to rely on your own Perimeter Security.
We will also be happy to provide our own plane which will be escorted by 4 F/A-18's. It is not that we dont trust yopu, we are involved in several conflicts at this present time and fear a terrorist attack. GLA have also declared their support to a country we are fighting.

Yours, John Thames, Director of Royal Security, SDSS

Our 5th air combat division (5 F-16s, 20 Mig-1s) will meet and escort you once you enter Silverlecimian airspace.

BUMP

BUMP

Chazzikstan
Split Dreams
Lioy

are counted in. New Dragons, we aren't in need of Uranium, I don't think...unless we want nuclear power plants?...anyways, do you want to be in or not?

I will be attending with a few advisors, inlcuding the new head of the NAUSE (our space department :))

I would suggest doing these discussions off-site, and leave this thread for signups...its much more organized that way.

I will be telegramming everyone about this meeting and about the forum off-site.

IC: We thank you, once again. We are happy for your fighters to escort us through your own airspace.

OOC: (This is me being thick) 1) Can you please tell me the final name for this organisation (i have only tread the first few pages and did not see the final chioce). 2) By Off-Site, do you still mean within NS? (Sounds stupid, i know.)

Yeah what is the name? I thought it was ISSEE (International Society of Space Exploration and Experimentation) but you kinda stomped it out but I'm not really sure... :? Is it JSA (Joint Space Agency)? Or maybe International Space Agency... Or International Joint Space Agency?

2) Off-site:

http://s3.invisionfree.com/Joint_Space_Program

So that not everything is jumbled up in the same thread, while people are still signing up too.

1) Final name = undecided. I think we were on International Space Exploration and Experimentation Agency or something...or we could just call it the Joint Space Agency...

Hmmm... Why can't we post on the new thingy... And where should we talk about the whole conference thing?

I can't post new topics even though I registered.

Never mind I'm stupid. Actually it's a really nice site. Could be interesting.

More information on our space program :

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=108458

I finally have a picture of the launch site.

http://www.airventure.de/tips_KSC_PE_pics/03-launch%20pad.jpg

No... I didn't get it from NASA... but oh well.

Maybe I'll find hotel pictures soon. I regret that they may end up looking like the Pentagon.

I also have pictures of the airport from various angles. Kindly ignore the airline names in the second picture :lol:

http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/airport-denver-photo20b.jpg
http://www.amspecialists.com/amspecial/graphics/maps/denver/denver.gif

Can you guess what airport it is?
I also have pictures of the hotel. If you're wondering why the second picture looks so dull, it was taken before painting and planting of flowers and trees.

http://www.fremantle.wa.gov.au/etc/contpics/things/prison.jpg
http://www.hfrdesign.com/W%20TN%20Max%20Ex2.jpg

What do you think?

ATTENTION: I am telegramming all I can contact (so far, TechnoGeeks I couldn't find...) in the JSP about the off-site forum and Silverlecim's meeting. Please do not respond. This is NOT SPAM>

Note: Saragual and TechnoGeeks were not telegrammed. They couldn't be found. Is it Denver Airport btw? I used to live near there :)

So did I :p Theres like a theme park in Denver, starts with an E - anyone knows what its called?

[ooc post]

Elitch Gardens. I live in Denver actually.

And yes, the airport is DIA.

Bump... big bad bumpo rumpo.

The nation of Poprox has developed a special gravity box for use in Space. Lest, it's untested, but our scientists think it qwill work very well. We'd like to join the space agency

The forum that was sent to me via telegram does not work, does anyone have a working link?

The Holy Empire of Equites Templi would be happy to contribute in any way to this joint endeavor, provided that the launch platforms can also be used to launch a network of non-military telecommunications satelites that we already have in production and that the launch site become an international territory under the direct jurisdiction of the International Space Agency. As a show of good faith, our nation pledges 1 million Marks per month indefinitly to the furthering of space exploration.

The Holy Empire of Equites Templi would be happy to contribute in any way to this joint endeavor, provided that the launch platforms can also be used to launch a network of non-military telecommunications satelites that we already have in production and that the launch site become an international territory under the direct jurisdiction of the International Space Agency. As a show of good faith, our nation pledges 1 million Marks per month indefinitly to the furthering of space exploration.

Several of the previous posts regarding the off-site forum have been incorrect. We at the Kingdom of Quality Assurance have been using http://s3.invisionfree.com/Joint_Space_Program/index.php to visit the forum. Please join our delegation in showing up for the conference in newsworthy style, as Quality Assurance has brought along a documentary film crew, as well as award-winning documentarian Muriel Hodge, to follow the delegation in this monumental undertaking.

The Empire of Corvida will attend the conference on January 1. Is there a particular time?

You can add my colony (New Halo Gods) to the supporting list.

The Democratic States of Nordea would be more than happy to join the project. We have two high tech companies willing to assist in design, development and manufacturing of electronic devices; Nokia-Ericsson (hardware) and Telia-Sonera (software).

If a contract is made, the Nordean government is willing to contribute 5 million euros to the project as a start-up aid for the companies. Additional funding by the government may be decided later on.

Santwa is highly interested in space exploration and would be delighted to join this group.

Santwa would be delighted to join this new space agency.

Freedom Fighters-NRA (FFNRA for short) would love to join this project

General Calagar Lysander

We wish to join this space program and help in any way possable.