NationStates Jolt Archive


Looking for naval vessels

Soviet Bloc
21-12-2003, 05:01
The ARSB is looking for advanced naval vessels, no matter the cost, in order to upgrade its old and out-dated navy. The main vessels we are looking for are:
Guided missile destroyers
Cruisers
Frigates
Attack submarines
Landing craft and light carriers are also needed.

These vessels are severely needed to give our Navy the strength and power needed to fulfill the ARSB's needs.
Doujin
21-12-2003, 05:03
http://www.angelfire.com/ar3/doujin/logo (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=100828)
The Eastern Bloc
21-12-2003, 05:11
I don't know if its what you're looking for, but we have a carrier that can carry 5 VTOL aircraft. It's extremly small, but fast and capable of long duration missions. If you would like, I'll dig up the picture and stats.
Soviet Bloc
21-12-2003, 05:27
The Eastern Bloc: Hell yeah, just what we're looking for... We'd like that and maybe a carrier that can hold upwards of 20 or so aircraft.
Soviet Haaregrad
21-12-2003, 05:32
CGN 21
HNS Gandalf class Heavy Nuclear Cruiser

Displacement (tons): 26 950 tons
Speed (kts): 38 knots
Dimensions (m): 240 meters (787'3") long overall
231 meters (760') long at waterline
30 meters (98') beam
8.5 (28')meters draft


Propulsion: 2 nuclear reactors, 4 screws
Crew: 500 + 30 air arm

Electronics:
Control Systems: Combat Information Center communications suite including satellite communications
3 Palm Frond Navigation



Radar: 1 LR-710 Top Plate 3D Air/Surface Search
1 MR-320 Strut Pair 2D Air/Surface Search
2 TR-909 Roland SA-11 Fire Control
2 MR-360 Cross Sword SA-12 Fire Control

Sonar: 1 LS-24 Bloodhound search and attack sonar [medium and low frequency bands]
2 MS-345 Bronza Yoke hull mounted Sonars

ECM: 2 ECM-556 Cloaker ECM system

Armament:
Missiles: 4 SA-11 Archer short range SAM system
3 SA-12 Adder medium range SAM system
1x128 SS-N-21 Sunburn cruise missile VLS cells
1x256 SS-N-21 Sunburn cruise missile VLS cells

Guns: 4x125mm bombardment cannon
8x40mm AA cannon
4x25mm GAU-25-5 CIWS

Torpedos: 12x535mm underwater torpedo tubes

Anti-Submarine Warfare: Udav-1 ASW system

Armor:
Belt: 4"
Deck: 3"
Conning Tower: 4"

Air Wing:

ASW: 4 SH-27(Ka 27) Killer Whale ASW helicopters

CGH 1
HNS Admiral Limov class Aviation Cruiser

Displacement (tons): 32 450 tons
Speed (kts): 38 knots
Dimensions (m): 240 meters (787'3") long overall
231 meters (760') long at waterline
30 meters (98') beam
8.5 (28')meters draft


Propulsion: 6 gas turbine engines, 4 screws
Crew: 400 + 160 air arm

Electronics:
Control Systems: Combat Information Center communications suite including satellite communications
3 Palm Frond Navigation
Fly Trap B Aircraft Control

Radar: 1 LR-710 Top Plate 3D Air/Surface Search
1 MR-320 Strut Pair 2D Air/Surface Search
2 TR-909 Roland SA-11 Fire Control
2 MR-360 Cross Sword SA-12 Fire Control

Sonar: 1 LS-24 Bloodhound search and attack sonar [medium and low frequency bands]
2 MS-345 Bronza Yoke hull mounted Sonars

ECM: 2 ECM-556 Cloaker ECM system

Armament:
Missiles: 4 SA-11 Archer short range SAM system
3 SA-12 Adder medium range SAM system
1x192 SS-N-22 Sunburn cruise missile VLS cells

Guns: 4x125mm bombardment cannon
8x40mm AA cannon
4x25mm GAU-25-5 CIWS

Torpedos: 8x535mm underwater torpedo tubes

Anti-Submarine Warfare: Udav-1 ASW system

Armor:
Belt: 4"
Deck: 3"
Conning Tower: 4"

Air Wing:

Fighter: 12 FV-27 Manta Ray V/STOL fighter aircraft
ASW: 24 SH-27(Ka 27) Killer Whale ASW helicopters
Doujin
21-12-2003, 05:38
Ingenuity Class
Light Carrier

Displacement: 8,751 tons full load
Dimensions: 600 x 71.5 x 26 feet/182.8 x 21.8 x 7.9 meters
Extreme Dimensions: 622.5 x 109.25 x 26 feet/189.7 x 33.3 x 7.9 meters
Propulsion: DD 44 RK9000 Diesel engines driving 8 Lips 146/4 Waterjets configured for steering and reverse.
Crew: 871
Armor: 3-5 inch belt in CVL 24-30
Armament: 2 quad, 8 dual 40 mm AA, 16 single 20 mm AA, 2 PAAMS
Aircraft: 15
Speed: 43 knots
Draft: 20 ft
Weapons System: SUPERCET

Price: 800 million

http://www.angelfire.com/ar3/doujin/smallcarrier.JPG
This work?
Soviet Bloc
21-12-2003, 05:38
Hmm... I'll take 20 CGN-21 heavy nuclear cruisers (very nice).
And I'll take 8 of your CGH-1 aviation cruisers.

Price is of no matter and money will be wired upon confirmation of this order.
Soviet Bloc
21-12-2003, 05:40
Very nice, Doujin. I'll take 12 of those. Price, again, is of no concern right now so money will be wired upon confirmation.
Doujin
21-12-2003, 05:47
Price: 800 million(aircraft aren't included, sorry see my storefront for the limited aircraft I have.)

Order Confirmed.
Soviet Haaregrad
21-12-2003, 05:49
Hmm... I'll take 20 CGN-21 heavy nuclear cruisers (very nice).
And I'll take 8 of your CGH-1 aviation cruisers.

Price is of no matter and money will be wired upon confirmation of this order.

semi-ooc:
1 billion and 1.2 billion each, don't worry about the math, I don't.

I forgot to add the prices as I have yet to type of the descriptions. The CGH is optimized for ASW and protection of submarine fleets, like a modernized Kiev class. The CGN-21 is very much like the Kirov, but with loads of VLS cells.
Soviet Bloc
21-12-2003, 05:49
That's fine, I can outfit it with my own aircraft.
21-12-2003, 05:51
We happen to be surplussing the old Walruses. Check thread no 4650 for details.
21-12-2003, 05:53
I have a navel vessel... it's actually a piece of lint in my bellybutton. :|
Soviet Bloc
21-12-2003, 05:55
Ah, very well... Anyways, money wired.

Tahar Joblis- I'll have to check that out.
21-12-2003, 05:57
Here is a link to my naval storefront, hope it helps.
M92FS Naval Storefront (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=66709)
The Eastern Bloc
21-12-2003, 05:59
(OOC: I'm not really good with statistics when it comes to naval vessels. When it comes to the types of systems and whatnot used it can all be determined by you.)

http://207.44.246.95/147/67/upload/p957.jpg

Class: Ironclad
Type: Light Carrier
Length: 135 meters
Crew: 141
Aircraft: 5 VTOL fighters
Weapons: Standard Anti Aircraft guns, ASW weapons

This carrier is equipped with state of the art equipment. Its variable design allows for easy upgrade. Different fighters can be used on the carrier, from the harrier to the JSF. This ship's price reflects its quality.

Cost: 1 billion USD
Soviet Bloc
21-12-2003, 06:01
Give me 10, Eastern Bloc. All 10 Billion USD will be automatically wired on confirmation.
21-12-2003, 06:03
We have the Sandshark class and a battlecruiser. if you want i will dig up the stats.
Doujin
21-12-2003, 06:06
If you are still looking for an attack submarine, there is the Astron Class.

Just a sec..


Astron Class
Fast Attack Submarine

Specifications:
Power Plant: Diesel-Electric Hydrogen Fuel Cell system
Propulsion: 1 x DD 16V 396 diesel engine, 3.12 MW
DD(Doujin Defense) AIP (Air Independent Propulsion) system, 300 kW
Displacement: 7,800 tons submerged
Length: 377 feet
Draft: 32 feet
Beam: 34 feet
Speed: 25+ knots submerged
Depth Greater than 800 feet
Horizontal Tubes: Four 21" Torpedo Tubes
Vertical Tubes: 12 Vertical Launch System Tubes
Weapons: 38 weapons, including:
Vertical Launch System Tomahawk Cruise Missiles
Mk 48 ADCAP Heavyweight Torpedoes
Advanced Mobile Mines
Unmanned Undersea Vehicles
Systems:
C3I-Command, Control, Communication, and Intelligence
C3I will integrate sensors, countermeasures, navigation, and weapon control
Displayed on color display consoles
Radar: BPS 16 for navigation
Fire control system: Will be based on Raytheon MK 2

Special Warfare:
Dry Deck Shelter
Advanced SEAL Delivery System
Sonars: Doujinshi Advanced Spherical active/passive arrays
Light Weight Wide Aperture Arrays
TB-16, TB-29, and future towed arrays
High-frequency chin and sail arrays
MOA 3070 mine detection sonar
More processing power then today's entire submarine fleet combined

Countermeasures 1 internal launcher (reloadable 2-barrel)
14 external launchers
Crew 113 officers and men

Photonic Masts - The Astron Class does not have conventional periscopes. Instead, it has two AN/BVS-1 Photonic Masts. Advantages of this are:

Non-Hull Penetrating
Includes low light TV, a thermal imager, and a laser range finder

Two workstations
Photonics mast workstation and Command workstation
Two displays on each workstation
Upper display for real time video
Lower display for real time, recorded, or still frames
A handgrip is used to control the sensor head, select views, select contacts, and take still frames

Additional information on the powerplant/propulsion system:
With the Astron Class submarine, we utilize an advanced hydrogen fuel cell system that allows the submarine to operate on battery power for weeks. Albeit, a nuclear powered system would allow us to sustain months, it also is nosier comprimising the main advantage to submarines.. and what they thrive on, acoustic stealth. Since the nuclear reactors pumps must be on, we developed the AIP. The AIP allows the submarine to submerge for weeks without refueling(snorkeling). This allows the submarine to maintain the advantage of submerging for a long period of time, without the noise.

Other Innovations:
[list]
Modular Isolated Deck Structure (MIDS)
The entire command center will be installed as one unit on cushioned mounts
Will utilize Commercial Off the Shelf (COTS) components which allows for easy upgrade to new state of the art technology. Much cheaper then refits required for previous submarines to upgrade to new technology.
Fly-by-wire:
The helm and dive controls will be replaced by a four axis joystick.
Redundant electronic data buses operated by a fault tolerant set of processors to control the operator?s commands to the control surfaces.
This replaces the use of hydraulic controls between the ship control station and the control surfaces.

Price:2.5 billion

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/ship/images/021208-N-0000X-001-s.jpg

And we have a superb battleship(if you need any..)


Mackensen Class
Trimaran-Hull Battleship

Statistics:
Length: 864.0 feet (263.3 meters)
Draft: 25.2 feet (9.5 meters)
Width: 150.9 feet (46 meters)
Speed: 43 knots
Cargo: 2,000 tons of nonessential equipment and supplies. Each enlisted crew member has a small locker for personal items and uniforms. Ships officers have more space for personal items. Most of the ship's spaces are taken up by extra ammo, armor, troops, weapons, and engines.
Power Plant: Four Nuclear Power Plant (A4W Pressurized Water Reactor)
Propulsion: 10 Lips 176/5 Waterjets configured for steering and reverse.
Armaments:
9 16-inch Electro-Thermal Naval (406mm)
12 5-inch/ DP Guns (Mark 12) (127mm)
4 20mm/76 CIWS Anti-Aircraft/Missile
32 BGM-109 Tomahawk Cruise Missiles
16 RGM-84 Harpoon Anti-Ship Missiles
Chaff Launcher (4, Superstructure)
Torpedo Launchers (2, sides)
Systems:
APAR 12 Three Dimensional Search Radar System
Shipboard Vertical Launching System (VLS), Mk 41 launchers
Advanced Hull Sonar
Advanced Towed Array Sonar System
Command and Control Facilities
Sonar Masking System
Radar Defeating Profile
Combination Radar Detectors and Active Jamming System
Aircraft:
4 XM-270E Mosquito ERC (Airborne Radar)
4 XM-270F Mosquito ASW (Anti-Submarine Warfare)

Price: 1.8 Billion

http://www.angelfire.com/ar3/doujinishi/mackenen.jpg
Soviet Bloc
21-12-2003, 06:10
Esryia- Sure.

Doujin- I'll take 12 of your Astron-class Fast attack subs and 3 Mackensen-class battleships.
21-12-2003, 06:24
Battlecruisers: KUZNETSOV class
Builder: Sandbar Shipyards
Propulsion system: four Power PropulsionLM 2500 gas turbine engines
Propellers: two
Blades on each Propeller: five
Length: 567 feet (173 meters)
Beam: 55 feet (16.8 meters)
Draft: 34 feet (10.2 meters)
Displacement: approx. 9,600 tons full load
Speed: 31+ knots
Aircraft: 2 ASW helicopters or 1 VTOL Aircraft (Osprey or War Mover)
Armament: 2 8" Guns, 6 5" Guns, 12 NLAAM-56 Missle systems, 2 Ports for MK.48A1 Torpedoes.
Crew: 36 Officers, 30 Chief Petty Officers and approx. 331 Enlisted
Cost: Around 900 Million

Attack Submarines: Sandshark Class
Specifications:
Builder: Aries Naval Yards
Power Plant: IC404-HX two geared steam turbines, 15,000 SHP, one shaft
Length: 394 feet
Beam: 33 feet (10.06 meters)
Displacement: Sorry, i don't know to calulated it.
standard
submerged

Speed: Surfaced 13-18 knots
submerged: 20-23 knots

Test depth: 1,000 feet
Crew: 9 Officers, 109 Enlisted
Armament;
4 - 21" Torpedo Tubes (All Foward)
MK 14/16 Anti-ship Torpedo
MK 37 Anti-Submarine Torpedo
1 Port for Tomahawk missles
POWERED BY LIQUID HYDROGEN.
Doujin
21-12-2003, 06:26
Total for all vessels : 45,000,000,000

CONFIRMED
Soviet Bloc
21-12-2003, 06:28
I'll take 8 of those Kuznetsov battle cruisers and four sandsharks.

*Money wired*
21-12-2003, 06:37
I'll take 8 of those Kuznetsov battle cruisers and four sandsharks.

*Money wired*

thats 14.5 billion, order confirmed.

they will arrive in 3 nationstates years (6 RL Days)
Agnosticium
21-12-2003, 06:52
AGNOS Arms Manufacturing (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=41165)

We have many naval vessels for sale should they meet your specification.
Doujin
21-12-2003, 06:54
Worst storefront I have ever seen there, theres no specificatiosn of anything..
The Eastern Bloc
21-12-2003, 07:02
Give me 10, Eastern Bloc. All 10 Billion USD will be automatically wired on confirmation.

Confirmed. It will probably take a long while for all 10 Carriers to arrive.

A pleasure doing business with you.
Agnosticium
22-12-2003, 01:17
Worst storefront I have ever seen there, theres no specificatiosn of anything..

OOC: If you are referring to mine, then you should actually read the thread instead of acting all high and mighty. Every entry has the page of the thread upon which the speicifcations can be found. It's not that hard and it prevents from having to make one superhuge, pic heavy post at the beginning of the thread.
United Elias
22-12-2003, 01:21
(Agnosticum check the submarine thread:)

EM-220 Tigershark Diesel Electric Submarine (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2132825#2132825)

The EM-150 Dolphin/Piotr Hotamel class was developed by The Elias Marine Corporation and Bisonic Defence Initiatives Agency (BDIA) in a response to a requirement for an amphibious assault ship that could also perform the role of a light aircraft carrier and sea control ship.

The ship is highly capable and features modern defence systems such as the Sea Javelin missile system and SLQ-32 Jamming suite. The ship is designed to be extremely flexible as it can be used in either the amphibious role, the helicopter assault role or as a light aircraft carrier.

-Name: EM-150 Dolphin/Piotr Hotamel
-Class: Assault ship (LHD)
-Displacement: 24,800 tons
-Length: 772 feet
-Width: 115 feet
-Compliment: 923
-Propulsion: 4x 12,000 hp Gas Turbines driving two shafts and a bow thruster.
-Max Speed: 26 kts
-Armament: 6 Ak-603 CIWS 6000 rpm 30mm cannons, 2 sets of 8 cell Mk 29 launchers for Sea Javelin SAM (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=35421)


-Aircraft: up to 22 ‘slots’ for VSTOL aircraft (such as F-35, Yak-141, sea Harrier) or medium helicopters (such as Puma, Blackhawk, Mi-17 etc) in any combination. Large helicopters such as the (CH-53E or CH-47) would take up two ‘slots’ and smaller helicopters such as Hueys or Cobras would take up about 3/4 of a ‘slot’ etc. Up to two Mi-26s can be accommodated on deck but not in the hangar. 12 degree ski jump included.

-Military Lift:
Well deck can accommodate up to three LCACs or six smaller landing craft.
Ship can accommodate up to 1,070 troops.
Cargo hold has 22,000 square feet of vehicle stowage space
-Countermeasures: 6 SROC 6 barreled Mk36 Chaff launchers, SLAQ-25 torpedo decoys, and SLQ-32 electronic intercept jammers.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/europe/images/Luigi-Einaudi-NUM.jpg
http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/num/images/num_model2.jpg
http://homepage.tinet.ie/~steven/images/num_takeoff1.jpg


EM-150/ Piotr Hotamel class: $1.2 billion

(if you require helicopters for your vessel please click here:
EA-24 Multipurpose helicopter (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=40824)
EA-26 Attack Helicopter (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=68324&highlight=)
EA-28 Light/Scout Special Forces Helicopter (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=66401))
Soviet Bloc
22-12-2003, 04:11
United Elias- I'd like 12 of your EM-150 type amphibious assault ship. Its perfect for our needs.

*Money wired*

And, I believe, I have everything I need. Thank you all.