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Largent is trying to develope a battleship that is fast, stable, and has a good arsenal. We need help however and were wondering if any nation would join us in developing it?

anyone?

What Kind of battleship?

Tell me what you want to use it for, specific operations and fleet roles...

What Kind of battleship?
Just a large battleship that has an awsone arsenal

Tell me what you want to use it for, specific operations and fleet roles...
I basically want one to each fleet I have. It is going to be the largest there and wont have too much armor. It should be close to the water and fast and be able to blow up anything it comes across.

so will ya help?

Battleships are big, typically slow, and heavily armed. What you are asking for is a Light Cruiser.

same thing. either works. will you help?

Well, what I am asking for is not what you are giving me.

I want specific information on what you plan to do with your ship.

Well, what I am asking for is not what you are giving me.

I want specific information on what you plan to do with your ship.

Well... I must admit I don't have anything to specific in mind. I just was planning to put one in my navy because most of what I have in my navy are nothing like this. They are slow but heavily armored. It was just to improve my navy. All though after a while I might consider to sell it at my storefront if it doesn't work well for me or my navy.

I would love to help.

This woudl be, i admit, my first naval unit,. but I hope to prouce many in the future.

Okay you can help but I am still waiting for Rhur to respond

Listen, I hate storethreads and things I have designed for others were put in storethreads.

I don't want to help.

WE could sell you a Piledriver and let you modify its plans.
PDs are pretty fast for their size, and have a huge aresenal, see my storefront for details. Its under Pax Drive Yards.
GLACORP Storefront, for all your futuretech needs (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=100898)

WE could sell you a Piledriver and let you modify its plans.
PDs are pretty fast for their size, and have a huge aresenal, see my storefront for details. Its under Pax Drive Yards.
GLACORP Storefront, for all your futuretech needs (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=100898)
YOur piledriver is HUGE were talking ships that float in water not 20 mile long space ships!

Listen, I hate storethreads and things I have designed for others were put in storethreads.

I don't want to help.

If I dont put it in my store will you help?

If you want to do a joint venture ship, post in my thread.


http://doujinishi.tripod.com/logo (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=100828)

WE could sell you a Piledriver and let you modify its plans.
PDs are pretty fast for their size, and have a huge aresenal, see my storefront for details. Its under Pax Drive Yards.
GLACORP Storefront, for all your futuretech needs (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=100898)
YOur piledriver is HUGE were talking ships that float in water not 20 mile long space ships!
Oh, sorry, I thought you meant ships, not ships :) If thats the sort of thing you want, look at the bottom of the ground forces page.

As always Crookfur Arms is willing to enter an agreement to aid you develope a battleship.

I assume what you are looking for is a center peice command/bombardment platform capable on totally controling the battle space around it.

Traditionally battleships are slowish (about 25knots) but on the NS world everyone bases thier ships off the Iowa which is an unusually fast vessel (35knots) and not a true battleship (it doesn't even have all that brilliant sea handling.

Crookfur Naval manufacturing are capable of handling parts of the design from the smallest to the largest rnaging from actual hull construction to weaponary.

We wish to do some of the computers ande elctronics, and maybe lend some weapons support.

As always Crookfur Arms is willing to enter an agreement to aid you develope a battleship.

I assume what you are looking for is a center peice command/bombardment platform capable on totally controling the battle space around it.

Traditionally battleships are slowish (about 25knots) but on the NS world everyone bases thier ships off the Iowa which is an unusually fast vessel (35knots) and not a true battleship (it doesn't even have all that brilliant sea handling.

Crookfur Naval manufacturing are capable of handling parts of the design from the smallest to the largest rnaging from actual hull construction to weaponary.

Okay we could really use your help. I'll t-gram you when we get the specifics for what we need.

Tell me what you want to use it for, specific operations and fleet roles...

I will help you if this is a good thing

We wish to do some of the computers ande elctronics, and maybe lend some weapons support.
Okay we need the electronics for the ship. Just post what the specifics are.

OOC: The Iowa wasn't the only BB in WWII to pass 30 kts. You might want to check my thread for several examples of modern BBs, and I'd be OOCly happy to check over any design...

Tahar Joblissan officials are highly suspicious of this intended Largentian fleet expansion program.

Tell me what you want to use it for, specific operations and fleet roles...

I will help you if this is a good thing

We can always use more help. Just tell us what you can supply and your in.

OOC: It would also be nice if someone could get ahold of some graphics for the ship when its done. I'm not to great with images.

If you join us with the project, we will allow the installation of SUPERCET control system

http://www.angelfire.com/ar3/doujin/logo (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=100828)

If you ally with us, we will allow install the SUPERCET control system

http://www.angelfire.com/ar3/doujin/logo (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=100828)
Actually after looking over your thread i was hoping you could help the hull design or construction of amrements.

bump

A two person joint venture is what I was wondering.. I can do armament, system, and hull.

A two person joint venture is what I was wondering.. I can do armament, system, and hull.
I think a couple more people will be getting involved with this so it pprobably wont be just us. The current list is:

Kazakhstania Electronics
Crookfur Hull/armement?
Anti nazi ?
Doujin? hull?
Largent armement/ hull

Then Doujin pulls out. Any hull design based off mine will result in war by Doujin and it's allies.

i could Supply armanets (NLAAM-56 Missle System, 13" Secondary Guns), and a hull.

Then Doujin pulls out. Any hull design based off mine will result in war by Doujin and it's allies.

And how exactly a could a hull be based off your so far non existant one?


Tahar Joblis: i know the iowa wasn't the only one but it seems to be everyone's favourite thing to work from.
Persoanlly i preffer the Vanguard (mainly because it handled rough seas far far better).

on the design: As for main armament it might be better if soemome else concentrates on that as i only currently produce rapid fire (5rpm) long rnage 12" guns (mainly desined for firing ERGMs at upto about 200nm).
but if you want i have soem nasty modular MLRS systems i designed for my bombardment criuser.

But secondaries and CIWS i can well handle

OOC: Mmm. Check here (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4650&start=220) - I've been revising it a few times over, but can you guess what BB my latest creation is based off of? Bonus points if ya do :wink: It definitely isn't the Iowa. And I should really start looking into 15-16" ERGM rounds. Meh. Regular unboosted sabots only go out a bit past 100nm.

My friend battleships are out of date and if they have not gone to the scrap heap they are for display. Crusisers Aircraft Carriers and SSNs and SSBNs are in.

My friend battleships are out of date and if they have not gone to the scrap heap they are for display. Crusisers Aircraft Carriers and SSNs and SSBNs are in.

Actually there are some very big arguements in favour of the return of the big gun battleship.

Cheap(ish) high volume shore bombardment is a vital role that has seems to have been forgotten but on the NS world is vital (what with everyone having fortified coast lines). You can try doing it with a criuser (next gen guns such as the 155mm AGS make this more plausable) but they just don't have the armor to get in close enough for serious work.

Battleships also make ideal command vessels being easily able to acconodate msot of the stuff found in modern command ships while being fully useful as an offensive unit and actually being able to survive an attack.

OOC: There is also the rather simple idea of taking out some of the armament of a battleship and throwing on the armament of a heavy missile cruiser and a good chunk of CCC equipment. Voila, you now have a heavily armored heavy missile platform that can also perform cheap surface bombardment while being capable of surviving direct hits from ASMs. If anything, it moves at a steady clip faster than most of your small ships and costs a fraction of the cost of an aircraft carrier in operation, although it probably cost almost as much to build from the hull up. Which is more effective... twelve aircraft carriers, or ten aircraft carriers and six modernized battleships? The two have about the same personnel and fuel requirements, although missile systems tend not to require as much constant maintainence and training as fighterjets...

Tahar Joblis denies having begun operations to infiltrate this multinational operation and steal the blueprints for unauthorized use.

i could Supply armanets (NLAAM-56 Missle System, 13" Secondary Guns), and a hull.

Okay, also I have production rights to the Vanguard CIWS

stats:
"Stinger B" SAMs
- Range: 8km max
- Ceiling: 3km
- Warhead: High Explosive, proximity fused
- Speed: supersonic
- Reloading: Automatic, 8 reserve missiles
GAU-8 Avenger
- Range: 2000m
- Rate of fire: 4200rpm
- Caliber: 30mm APDS
- Ammunition Capacity: 2000 rounds per gun
Search Radar
- Pulse-doppler
- Range: 25km
Track Radar
- Range: 5km
- Function: Tracks missile and outgoing rounds, adjusting for accuracy.
Vanguard platform:
- Rotation speed: 120 degrees per second.
- Mounting: Can be mounted in place of existing CIWS

That thing is mean. I say we put one on it.

I just had an idea about the hull. This isn't anything final so just give your opinion. Okay, the part of the hull at the waterline will be wider than the deck so it is stable and low. We also will need a pointed bow to cut through rough seas and the hull underwater will be shaped like an upside down obtuse triangle.

I just had an idea about the hull. This isn't anything final so just give your opinion. Okay, the part of the hull at the waterline will be wider than the deck so it is stable and low. We also will need a pointed bow to cut through rough seas and the hull underwater will be shaped like an upside down obtuse triangle.

intresting. i like it.

Okay, now lets worry about armements and electronics

I fancy using these detailed electronics:

Electronic Damage Control System. Monitors all ships areas and important points to give damage reports every second. This is run by a large supercomputer with a lot of backign power.

Upgraded Joint Tactical Information Distrubution System. Tracks unit movement and pases on info. Also, edits it to a useable format for supercomputers to use to make battlefield plans.

Targetting system. Ran by liquid cooled supercomputer and monitors all weapons systems. Has each weapons individual programs and targettign systems, in the one monitorable thing.

Which do you like? More are in the pipeline.

NLAAM.56: Anti-Aircraft Missle System

Range: 20 miles
Payload: 1 2500 lb anti-bomber warhead or 2 1000 lb anti fighter warheads or 1 2450 lb "Little Bear" nuclear tiped warhead.
Price per System: 3 Million dollars
Price per Missle: 1.4 million Dollars
Guidance: Radar and/or Magnetic Imaging

Magnetic Imaging System:

A High-Power long range detection system. can work in tandem with radar and other systems, or without radar.

Price: 22 Million Dollars

Battleships are big, typically slow, and heavily armed. What you are asking for is a Light Cruiser.

Actually, battleships(dreadnoughts) are very fast, the USS Iowa class is the fastest capital ship ever.

I fancy using these detailed electronics:

Electronic Damage Control System. Monitors all ships areas and important points to give damage reports every second. This is run by a large supercomputer with a lot of backign power.

Upgraded Joint Tactical Information Distrubution System. Tracks unit movement and pases on info. Also, edits it to a useable format for supercomputers to use to make battlefield plans.

Targetting system. Ran by liquid cooled supercomputer and monitors all weapons systems. Has each weapons individual programs and targettign systems, in the one monitorable thing.

Which do you like? More are in the pipeline.

To be honest I like all of them

NLAAM.56: Anti-Aircraft Missle System

Range: 20 miles
Payload: 1 2500 lb anti-bomber warhead or 2 1000 lb anti fighter warheads or 1 2450 lb "Little Bear" nuclear tiped warhead.
Price per System: 1.4 Million dollars
Price per Missle: 965 Million Dollars
Guidance: Radar and/or Magnetic Imaging

Magnetic Imaging System:

A High-Power long range detection system. can work in tandem with radar and other systems, or without radar.

Price: 22 Million Dollars

I like the magnetic imaging system.

At 956 Million Per Missile :shock:

More are promised in the pipeline.

At 956 Million Per Missile :shock:

More are promised in the pipeline.

fixed.

Now its a bit low.....

fixed

I'll buy 1 system

I'll buy 1 system

i am not selling. i will, however, sell them to if i can also purchase the product of this project to build a battleship.

I'll buy 1 system

i am not selling. i will, however, sell them to if i can also purchase the product of this project to build a battleship.

If you sell them to us for the ships of course you will get one of the products

deal. but one? our Kuznetsov class has 12 exaples of the system.

Okay we will take 15 for our ship then.

Okay we will take 15 for our ship then.

order confirmed. we will supply more of these as more ships are built.

Spec(so far)
3 CIWS
15NLAAM.56: Anti-Aircraft Missle System
1Electronic Damage Control System
1Upgraded Joint Tactical Information Distrubution System
1Targetting system
1Magnetic Imaging System

tell me if anything is wrong

no one disagreed so I am guessing it is right

To be honest even with the suggested massive combo CIWS you liekly need a few more of them just in case.

I would suggest a medium number of VLS cells (standard US ones for now, or possibly Crookfur ones but those would be a nightmare to tie in with other systems) as soemthign to make this ship a bit diffferent but the already suggested heavy SAMs make this less useful (but not altogether you can still use the VLSs for smaller sams and criuse missiles).

As for main weaponary i would suggest going for updated 16" guns or maybe 14"ers to allow autoreloading, of course ETC ech would be an option.

As for secondaries i would say go for modern 155mm AGS's or perhap advanced 8" guns.

To be honest even with the suggested massive combo CIWS you liekly need a few more of them just in case.

I would suggest a medium number of VLS cells (standard US ones for now, or possibly Crookfur ones but those would be a nightmare to tie in with other systems) as soemthign to make this ship a bit diffferent but the already suggested heavy SAMs make this less useful (but not altogether you can still use the VLSs for smaller sams and criuse missiles).

As for main weaponary i would suggest going for updated 16" guns or maybe 14"ers to allow autoreloading, of course ETC ech would be an option.

As for secondaries i would say go for modern 155mm AGS's or perhap advanced 8" guns.

I'll take it into deep consideration

I agree with him, thougn my 250km ranged AAM-3F Missiles should really be used.

They OWN.

looks like its back to the drawing board :D

i can supply 13" guns. capable of fireing nuclear artillery shells and Chronoblast warheads (just fancy liquid hydrogen waarheads). the price per gun is 195,000 dollars. the price for each Chronoblast warhead is 100,000. i don't sell nuclear artillery shells.

hmmm...I'll be at the drawing board for a while. Also, this ship is going to kick butt. It has a nuclear arsonal :P

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=107898&highlight=

My Battleship. Take a look, I hope this surpasses.

Well im a retired general of games i am the best you can have i know how to make your boat but its going to cost not that much i just want more land and people
So if you think i have a good ide just ask
but for know i will tell you
it is that you get the bottom of a cruz ship a very very big one get the speed but make it seem to be one but it is a warhead that has fire machine so that everyone has a chance i think its a paformance to show that im worthy i will make it with my 2 hands :mrgreen:

Well im a retired general of games i am the best you can have i know how to make your boat but its going to cost not that much i just want more land and people
So if you think i have a good ide just ask
but for know i will tell you
it is that you get the bottom of a cruz ship a very very big one get the speed but make it seem to be one but it is a warhead that has fire machine so that everyone has a chance i think its a paformance to show that im worthy i will make it with my 2 hands :mrgreen:

Thanks but we already have a design. Also, the battleship on the link was nice but as I said I am still getting the specifics.