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NANO SOFT INDEFINITELY BLACKLISTED

20-12-2003, 07:14
The Minister of Defense for the small and emerging nation state of the C R Enterprises takes the stage at what was to be recorded as a global press conference.

"Good evening, members of the global press... Today, approximently two hours ago (approx. IC time) the nation state of Nano Soft declared war on the USSCR and her allies in what could be considered a provoked confronation. As a major subsadiary of the USSCR, the nation state of C R Enterprises has follow the USSCR's suit and declared war on Nano Soft as well as any who may ally themselves with her. All military forces will be commited to any coming confrontations within the end of the business week. Thank you. No questions."

Through a hail of camera flashes and shouted questions, the Minister of Defense turns and leaves the press conference room with a few body gaurds in tow.

(( OOC Note: All RolePlaying of the Nano vs. USSCR & Allies sub-RPG will now be moved to this thread for less confussion. Thank you. ))
Communist Rule
20-12-2003, 07:18
I'll make this short and simple. The governor of the subsidary of USSCR, C R Enterprises, is given complete control over my military. Anything he does, goes as if I was doing it. Got it? Good.
Not good! Show me proff that he gives you control and I will believe you. Also the missile that I launched was a low graded missile, it is one of the weakest types of missiles you can find so it did not do massive damage.

It destroyed my and GeForce4's research lab. That's plenty of damage. Further, I give him control. That's all the proof I need?
20-12-2003, 07:26
(( REMINDER: ALL OOC and IC content for the war between Nano Soft and the USSCR & Allies will be posted here from now on. ))
Canada-Germany
20-12-2003, 07:26
OOC: Hmm.. If Nano-soft rep's the side of pro-MJ... I wanna switch sides, lol.
20-12-2003, 07:28
(( Lmfao... xD

Thanks for your insite on the situation, Canada-Germany. I'm sure this war will develop into something bigger than an argument over weed soon enough. ))
Iuthia
20-12-2003, 07:30
OOC: Hmm.. If Nano-soft rep's the side of pro-MJ... I wanna switch sides, lol.

OOC: This is seperate of the Pro-MJ thing, I still support MJ but will probably get pissy about Nano's ICBM attack... we still don't know if the other nations have declared a nuclear war over it...

Meanwhile I have made a IC post on the second to last page of the MJ thread.
Canada-Germany
20-12-2003, 07:33
OOC: Hmm.. If Nano-soft rep's the side of pro-MJ... I wanna switch sides, lol.

OOC: This is seperate of the Pro-MJ thing, I still support MJ but will probably get pissy about Nano's ICBM attack... we still don't know if the other nations have declared a nuclear war over it...

Meanwhile I have made a IC post on the second to last page of the MJ thread.

OOC: seperate eh? Good, cause as much as CommieRules first attack against Tokushima struck me as alittle.. er... pre-emtive (as you've seen my post, lol) Nanosoft's mis-understanding of the military mind is.. bothersome, lol.
Iuthia
20-12-2003, 07:34
OOC: seperate eh? Good, cause as much as CommieRules first attack against Tokushima struck me as alittle.. er... pre-emtive (as you've seen my post, lol) Nanosoft's mis-understanding of the military mind is.. bothersome, lol.

OOC: Last one of topic: But if he fired two ICBM's at you, what would you do?
Soviet Bloc
20-12-2003, 07:34
*After a thorough check with a fast-response NBC team, the scientists have deemed the attack non-nuclear... With that report the Premier decides not to retaliate with nuclear weapons but will put the nation's only nuclear forces, sub-based nukes, on alert for the time being in case ANY more ICBMs, non-nuclear or not, are launched... Also after the report, clean-up crews converge on the site to search the ruins for bodies and survivors.*
Communist Rule
20-12-2003, 07:35
OOC: Just because Nano is somewhere else.. I shall do some RP.

-From the roaring jets over USSCR to the plowing hulls of the mighty aircraft carriers, each man in the USSCR does his part! Would you like to know more?
--Lieutenant John Williams, B-1B lancer pilot. He spends his day flying at supersonic speeds a dropping a bomb when he feels like it, too fast for most defenses.
---Captain James McElroy, skipper of an Alfa-class submarine. He spends his day sinking ships! What a fun job!
---Sergeant T. Whyte, leader of a T-80MU1 squad. He spends his day popping KE and HEAT rounds into the armour of the enemy.

SERVICE GUARANTEES CITIZENSHIP!
Nano soft
20-12-2003, 07:35
I have done no such thing. I declared a state of war against the country of Communist Rul for destroying my two S-39 squads that where going to escourt his Mi-24 to a Nano Soft base and the Nano Soft officals would hand them over to the Tokushima officals. I was attacking his Mi-24 because in it was a team that recently attacked Tokushima for selling drugs. I supported Tokushima because he has free will to sell what he wants to sell and we had just ordered some for canser users so there pain wouldn't be as much.

I have no means of declaring war on a whole alliance. I also never said i declared war on C R Enterprises, USSCR or any one else. You can also NOT say who I declare war on because that is godmoding to say i declared war on you.
Communist Rule
20-12-2003, 07:37
I have done no such thing. I declared a state of war against the country of Communist Rul for destroying my two S-39 squads that where going to escourt his Mi-24 to a Nano Soft base and the Nano Soft officals would hand them over to the Tokushima officals. I was attacking his Mi-24 because in it was a team that recently attacked Tokushima for selling drugs. I supported Tokushima because he has free will to sell what he wants to sell and we had just ordered some for canser users so there pain wouldn't be as much.

I have no means of declaring war on a whole alliance. I also never said i declared war on C R Enterprises, USSCR or any one else. You can also NOT say who I declare war on because that is godmoding to say i declared war on you.

Escort. Right. *idly taps play on a tape recorder, hearing the pilot to state destination and intentions or be fired upon.* Also, you specifically said you declared war on the USSCR.. And CR Enterprises is my subsidary, so by declaring war on me, you declare war on him. And I didn't say who you delcared war on...
Canada-Germany
20-12-2003, 07:38
OOC: seperate eh? Good, cause as much as CommieRules first attack against Tokushima struck me as alittle.. er... pre-emtive (as you've seen my post, lol) Nanosoft's mis-understanding of the military mind is.. bothersome, lol.

OOC: Last one of topic: But if he fired two ICBM's at you, what would you do?

OOC: well, two ICBM's? I would deal with the ICBM's with my various defenses, then launch an overwhelming strike against him with Various NBC weapons I have at my disposal because, though THESE ICBM's might not have been nuclear, the ones following could be.
Soviet Bloc
20-12-2003, 07:38
You declared war on me too and I was the one who blew your fighters out of the sky for opening fire on the Hinds.

And here you have it, quote from Nano soft:

"The president of Nano Soft has declared a state of war against the two countries of Soviet Bloc and Communist Rule."
20-12-2003, 07:40
(( Please, learn how to RolePlay and add brackets Nano, or as they're cutely refered to as "bubbles", to your posts. You declared war on USSCR in the other thread, but I don't feel the need to quote you as of now. Also, we have all declared war on you for declaring war on USSCR. I believe the ARSB also delcared war on you for tactically ICBMing a base of theirs. =D

Now, can we please continue with our RP? ))
Communist Rule
20-12-2003, 07:41
(( Please, learn how to RolePlay and add brackets, or as they're cutely refered to as "bubbles", to your posts. You declared war on USSCR in the other thread, but I don't feel the need to quote you as of now. Also, we have all declared war on you for declaring war on USSCR. I believe the ARSB also delcared war on you for tactically ICBMing a base of theirs. =D ))

Well put, comrade, well put.
20-12-2003, 07:42
OOC: Thanks, Josef. BTW, I think he's scared to come out of there. *pokes the small hole Nano is hiding in.*
Communist Rule
20-12-2003, 07:42
OOC: I do believe he just needs a bit of encourgement.
Nano soft
20-12-2003, 07:44
*After a thorough check with a fast-response NBC team, the scientists have deemed the attack non-nuclear... With that report the Premier decides not to retaliate with nuclear weapons but will put the nation's only nuclear forces, sub-based nukes, on alert for the time being in case ANY more ICBMs, non-nuclear or not, are launched... Also after the report, clean-up crews converge on the site to search the ruins for bodies and survivors.*
The Fre Corporation of Nano Soft is soory that we had to do that. For your loses we will give 10 billion dollars for the familiy's and to help rebuild the base. Bur not money will be give to Communist Rule for his foolishness and attacking a country for very little reason. But we will give all the nations that where at the multi country lab, except for Communist Rule, give them each 10billion dollars.

PS Communist Rule my other post it wasn't towards you it was for C R.
Also see you wouldn't have a recording of what my pilots said and they where going to escourt your Mi-24 if they had done what they where tolled!
Iuthia
20-12-2003, 07:45
I have no means of declaring war on a whole alliance. I also never said i declared war on C R Enterprises, USSCR or any one else. You can also NOT say who I declare war on because that is godmoding to say i declared war on you.

OOC: They did not say you offically declared war, but instead that they think you have declared war, in return they are declaring war on you for the destruction of their property and the loss of many lives...

IC:

[Open Statement from the Leadership of Iuthia]


While are current stance is that the nation of Tokushima is to be defended, we feel that the actions of Nano Soft were not justified and as such we condemn them to our Black List for an ICBM attack that threatened the safety of the free world.

Had nations reacted to those ICBM's as though they were the real thing a nuclear incident would have occured and much damage would have been caused to the lives of the innocent, we cannot condone such dis-regard for life that Nano Soft has shown for the citizens of the nations it bombed as well as the lives of it's own peolpe. Their lack of forthought into this matter shocks us and we will have no business with this nation for 10 years after they are deemed "stable" by the Iuthian Empire.

May we only hope this situation does not progress into something more sinister.

Thanks,


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20-12-2003, 07:46
To: The Supreme Commander of All Nano Soft Forces

A surrender of arms and an amount of your natural resources- the amount of which will determined at another time- will be accepted as a form of condolence if you do, indeed, wish to surrender. Otherwise, we can not hold ourselves back any longer. Your time shortens, comrade. Hasten with your decision.

Sincerely,
Prime Minister ( C R Enterprises ) and Minister of Defense ( USSCR ),
Dmitri Filitov.
Communist Rule
20-12-2003, 07:48
-The USSCR government releases the tape of a recorded radio transmission to the known world-

Radio message:
This is Falcon one of the Nano Soft Airforce. I repeat give you destination and where you are coming from. If you fail to complie you will be shot down.
End radio message
Nano soft
20-12-2003, 07:52
(( Please, learn how to RolePlay and add brackets Nano, or as they're cutely refered to as "bubbles", to your posts. You declared war on USSCR in the other thread, but I don't feel the need to quote you as of now. Also, we have all declared war on you for declaring war on USSCR. I believe the ARSB also delcared war on you for tactically ICBMing a base of theirs. =D
Now, can we please continue with our RP? ))
OOC:I did not declare war on you! I declared it on Communist Rule, how hard is that to comprehend! Also I know how to roleplay, if you have seen some of my other roleplaying threads you would know.
IC: I am sorry for any loses you had and as I said in my last post I will give 10 billion dollars.
20-12-2003, 07:54
To: The Supreme Commander of All Nano Soft Forces

While your offers are generous, we can not accept anything less than what we demand. While it may seem very hostile, if those simple demands cannot be met, we [ USSCR & Allies ] will be forced to react to your already growing tyrony.


Sincerely,
Prime Minister ( C R Enterprises ) and Minister of Defense ( USSCR ),
Dmitri Filitov.
Nano soft
20-12-2003, 07:56
To: The Supreme Commander of All Nano Soft Forces

A surrender of arms and an amount of your natural resources- the amount of which will determined at another time- will be accepted as a form of condolence if you do, indeed, wish to surrender. Otherwise, we can not hold ourselves back any longer. Your time shortens, comrade. Hasten with your decision.

Sincerely,
Prime Minister ( C R Enterprises ) and Minister of Defense ( USSCR ),
Dmitri Filitov.
I will not surrender because there is no war. I never declared war on you.


Also Communist Rule you cant get a recording of what my pilots said because you killed the aircraft which would have the recording and the only other person who would have it is my HQ not the USSCR government. So ethier you godmeded or you sent a spy and didn't say about that and still godmoded
Soviet Bloc
20-12-2003, 07:58
The ARSB decides not to accept this 'bribe' as this attack was a deliberate act of war and therefore no amount of money can bring back all the men and women who were flashboiled in this attack. The only thing we can ask is that Nano soft halt all hostilities with the nation of Communist rule and come to some sort of agreement. Then and only then will we halt our operations and recall all ships to port... If this ultimatum on our part is not accepted, we will have no choice but to continue with our operations, of which we are not afraid to continue.
Nano soft
20-12-2003, 07:58
To: The Supreme Commander of All Nano Soft Forces

While your offers are generous, we can not accept anything less than what we demand. While it may seem very hostile, if those simple demands cannot be met, we [ USSCR & Allies ] will be forced to react to your already growing tyrony.


Sincerely,
Prime Minister ( C R Enterprises ) and Minister of Defense ( USSCR ),
Dmitri Filitov.
So who are these so called "USSCR and Allies"? Well tell me!
20-12-2003, 08:01
All OOC:


1) Nano, it's called a black box-- almost all planes have them. In fact, they are so common, it could be considered Godmoding to say that you do not have them in your aircraft after they crash without previously saying so.

2) USSCR & allies consists of: USSCR (and all subsidiaries), the ARSB, and the rest of the Militarized Nations (assumed).
Nano soft
20-12-2003, 08:02
The ARSB decides not to accept this 'bribe' as this attack was a deliberate act of war and therefore no amount of money can bring back all the men and women who were flashboiled in this attack. The only thing we can ask is that Nano soft halt all hostilities with the nation of Communist rule and come to some sort of agreement. Then and only then will we halt our operations and recall all ships to port... If this ultimatum on our part is not accepted, we will have no choice but to continue with our operations, of which we are not afraid to continue.
So your not afraid to face an army of one million plus Ro-Bots? Not afriad to face a huge coastal defence system? Not afriad to face a huge in land defence system? Not afriad to enter an area od islands know as Corporate Islands facing over 70+ allies? Because that is what you would face if you where to try and attack me. But ethier way we have ended all hostilities wit h Communist rule and have you plan for the future to attack Communist rule or his allies.
Nano soft
20-12-2003, 08:06
All OOC:


1) Nano, it's called a black box-- almost all planes have them. In fact, they are so common, it could be considered Godmoding to say that you do not have them in your aircraft after they crash without previously saying so.

2) USSCR & allies consists of: USSCR (and all subsidiaries), the ARSB, and the rest of the Militarized Nations (assumed).
OOC:
1)I know what the hell a black box is ok and it was ethier destroyed whene over 8 missiles per S-39 hit my S-39s! Or it is at the bottum of the sea and will take weeks maybe mounths to find.

2) Who are these people! Just saying a group is crap i need alist of nations! There full name not alliance or whatever!
Soviet Bloc
20-12-2003, 08:06
We would still not be afraid(And ro-bots? A little too futuristic maybe?). But anyays... We ask that you repeal you declarations of war against me and the USSCR. Upon hearing that we will have our ships return to port and our defensive alert placed at minimum with most interceptor squadrons returning to base.
Iuthia
20-12-2003, 08:06
[code:1:b80d0e2861]>>Adding "Nano Soft" to black list......

>>Data Transfer complete.

>>Ceasing all trade with "Nano Soft".......

>>Estimated losses in revenue: $1575.58 (USD)

>>Electronic Transfers blocked, mailerge sent to Iuthian business owners...[/code:1:b80d0e2861]
Canada-Germany
20-12-2003, 08:07
The ARSB decides not to accept this 'bribe' as this attack was a deliberate act of war and therefore no amount of money can bring back all the men and women who were flashboiled in this attack. The only thing we can ask is that Nano soft halt all hostilities with the nation of Communist rule and come to some sort of agreement. Then and only then will we halt our operations and recall all ships to port... If this ultimatum on our part is not accepted, we will have no choice but to continue with our operations, of which we are not afraid to continue.
So your not afraid to face an army of one million plus Ro-Bots? Not afriad to face a huge coastal defence system? Not afriad to face a huge in land defence system? Not afriad to enter an area od islands know as Corporate Islands facing over 70+ allies? Because that is what you would face if you where to try and attack me. But ethier way we have ended all hostilities wit h Communist rule and have you plan for the future to attack Communist rule or his allies.

As you started the hostilities, it would be pretty plain to see, I doubt you would resive much support from your Corporate allies.
20-12-2003, 08:11
(( While the complete status evaluation of the USSCR Armed Forces is classified, a brief outline can be obtained if requested here ))

A small amount of the current tank forces active in the USSCR move towards the war zone (which can be presume close to the MF border?). About two battalions worth of active T-06 Main Battle Tanks are currently being moved along with twelve ELS-535 MTVR 7 ton trucks to supply fuel and armament. Ten more ELS-535 MTVR 7 ton trucks loaded with food and mail as well as the air cover of 20 Mi-24 HinD-Es and their support crews traveling in numerous URALs are scheduled to rendezvous with the tank and support force, currently dubbed Task Force Red.

Twelve hundred URALs are being assembled at the USSCR's capital, as well as the majority of the USSCR's infantry. The URALs will wait at the Capital's train station for two small battalions of C R Enterprises' infantry. Their destination is not known yet.

Forces are also forming offshore near one of USSCR's major ports. One Nimitz Class aircraft CVN as well as two Razor Class CNVs are assembling along with an undesignated number of Missile Destroyers, ASW Cruisers and Submarines steaming to join them. They are designated Task Force Occidental and insofar, all information leaks have pointed to the task force leaving port within three days and heading towards the war zone.

The rest of the USSCR's military is currently at phase 2 alert and a few reserve regiments are being called up. These weekend warriors are expected to be at fighting capacity within the month's end. Independent MF (Militarized Zone) forces can also be found gathering near the war zone...

(( EDIT: Please note, all of these forces are of the USSCR, not of the C R Enterprises. I have been allowed to command all USSCR forces by their Prime Minister. ))
Nano soft
20-12-2003, 08:12
We would not be afraid of such minor hindrances (And ro-bots? A little too futuristic maybe?). But anyays... We ask that you repeal you declarations of war against me and the USSCR. Upon hearing that we will have our ships return to port and our defensive alert placed at minimum with most interceptor squadrons returning to base.
OOC: Its my country and whene you attack it on my land that be comes my turf. You enter the futuristic time other wise you cant attack me really.
IC: We have retracted the decerations of war and also just to say had no plans in the future of attack you or Communist Rule or any one else.

Canada-Germany I did not start any hostilities. If you had read every thing you would know that.. wait you should know that Communist Rule attacked those drug feilds and i was proteching them because he had NO right to attack them.
Nano soft
20-12-2003, 08:15
(( While the complete status evaluation of the USSCR Armed Forces is classified, a brief outline can be obtained if requested here ))

A small amount of the current tank forces active in the USSCR move towards the war zone (which can be presume close to the MF border?). About two battalions worth of active T-06 Main Battle Tanks are currently being moved along with twelve ELS-535 MTVR 7 ton trucks to supply fuel and armament. Ten more ELS-535 MTVR 7 ton trucks loaded with food and mail are scheduled to rendezvous with the tank and support force, currently dubbed Task Force Red.

Twelve hundred URALs are being assembled at the USSCR's capital, as well as the majority of the USSCR's infantry. The URALs will wait at the Capital's train station for two small battalions of C R Enterprises' infantry. Their destination is not known yet.

Forces are also forming offshore near one of USSCR's major ports. One Nimitz Class aircraft CVN as well as two Razor Class CNVs are assembling along with an undesignated number of Missile Destroyers, ASW Cruisers and Submarines steaming to join them. They are designated Task Force Occidental and insofar, all information leaks have point to the task force leaving port within three days and heading towards the war zone.

The rest of the USSCR's military is currently at phase 2 alert and a few reserve regiments are being called up. These weekend warriors are expected to be at fighting capacity within the month's end. Independent MF (Militarized Zone) forces can also be found gathering near the war zone...
What war zone? There is no war... :roll: If you mean ground zero then thats a better term to use then "war zone".
Nano soft
20-12-2003, 08:17
[code:1:f70023970d]>>Adding "Nano Soft" to black list......

>>Data Transfer complete.

>>Ceasing all trade with "Nano Soft".......

>>Estimated losses in revenue: $1575.58 (USD)

>>Electronic Transfers blocked, mailerge sent to Iuthian business owners...[/code:1:f70023970d]
I hope you realize we had no suchh trade or any realations in the past so the "Estimated losses in revenue:" is $0 not $1575.58 (USD).
20-12-2003, 08:17
(( I meant exactly what I said, nano soft. You have not yet accepted our terms of surrender, so we have not yet recalled our declaration of war. There is still a war going on, whether you wishfully take part in it or not. Sorry, but that's diplomacy for ya', bud. ))
Soviet Bloc
20-12-2003, 08:18
Very well...

*With that, the two carrier battle groups turn around and steam back to home port. Most of the airborne interceptor squadrons return to home base as well as the paratrooper regiments. And finally, the Premier has placed our defensive alert at the second lowest position... *
20-12-2003, 08:20
And with that the USSCR forces find themselves without ally or friend on the battlefield?

But no matter. Under strict order, they prepare for battle, digging in, to the North of any and all fighting (sorry, lack of proper termonology, I know, but there's no real geoprophy to this whole thing).
Canada-Germany
20-12-2003, 08:21
We would not be afraid of such minor hindrances (And ro-bots? A little too futuristic maybe?). But anyays... We ask that you repeal you declarations of war against me and the USSCR. Upon hearing that we will have our ships return to port and our defensive alert placed at minimum with most interceptor squadrons returning to base.
OOC: Its my country and whene you attack it on my land that be comes my turf. You enter the futuristic time other wise you cant attack me really.
IC: We have retracted the decerations of war and also just to say had no plans in the future of attack you or Communist Rule or any one else.

Canada-Germany I did not start any hostilities. If you had read every thing you would know that.. wait you should know that Communist Rule attacked those drug feilds and i was proteching them because he had NO right to attack them.

*SHHHH* My government denies all knowlage of anything that happened inside Tokushima :P
Nano soft
20-12-2003, 08:21
(( I meant exactly what I said, nano soft. You have not yet accepted our terms of surrender, so we have not yet recalled our declaration of war. There is still a war going on, whether you wishfully take part in it or not. Sorry, but that's diplomacy for ya', bud. ))
Why should i surrender? I have seen NO proff of these so called allies so to me right now your just this two day old nation try to act all big and powerful.
Iuthia
20-12-2003, 08:22
I hope you realize we had no suchh trade or any realations in the past so the "Estimated losses in revenue:" is $0 not $1575.58 (USD).

OOC: There is no effect of my action, it was simply just a part of the RP, I doubt it would matter... seeing as it's my lost revenue anyways. So stop being so pedantic, it is assumed that I am buying something small and incignifcant from most nations, such as toilet paper or sheet metal... I'm not retracting it eitherway.
Nano soft
20-12-2003, 08:23
We would not be afraid of such minor hindrances (And ro-bots? A little too futuristic maybe?). But anyays... We ask that you repeal you declarations of war against me and the USSCR. Upon hearing that we will have our ships return to port and our defensive alert placed at minimum with most interceptor squadrons returning to base.
OOC: Its my country and whene you attack it on my land that be comes my turf. You enter the futuristic time other wise you cant attack me really.
IC: We have retracted the decerations of war and also just to say had no plans in the future of attack you or Communist Rule or any one else.

Canada-Germany I did not start any hostilities. If you had read every thing you would know that.. wait you should know that Communist Rule attacked those drug feilds and i was proteching them because he had NO right to attack them.

*SHHHH* My government denies all knowlage of anything that happened inside Tokushima :P
Ok whatever you say. :roll: But I know you where there! :wink:
Nano soft
20-12-2003, 08:24
I hope you realize we had no suchh trade or any realations in the past so the "Estimated losses in revenue:" is $0 not $1575.58 (USD).

OOC: Their is not effect of my action, it was simply just a part of the RP, I doubt it would matter... seeing as it's my lost revenue anyways. So stop being so pedantic, it is assumed that I am buying something small and incignifcant from most nations, such as toilet paper or sheet metal... I'm not retracting it eitherway.
There are over 100,000 nations on NS so i doubt you like even know we really kind of existed untill today.
20-12-2003, 08:25
(( If you actually read ANYTHING Nano, you would notice I am commanding the USSCR's armed forces under order of the Prime Minister of the Communist Rule. Currently, only the USSCR, or Communist Rule, is attacking you. Make the battlements ready for war, comrade, for war... is upon you. ))
Nano soft
20-12-2003, 08:27
(( If you actually read ANYTHING Nano, you would notice I am commanding the USSCR's armed forces under order of the Prime Minister of the Communist Rule. Currently, only the USSCR, or Communist Rule, is attacking you. Make the battlements ready for war, comrade, for war... is upon you. ))
Yeah I know that, you and him said it like three trillion times. But what does USSCR stand for! Is it an alliance? If it is whos in it! Also you and Communist role alone don't stand chance against me and "allies".
Communist Rule
20-12-2003, 08:29
All OOC:


1) Nano, it's called a black box-- almost all planes have them. In fact, they are so common, it could be considered Godmoding to say that you do not have them in your aircraft after they crash without previously saying so.

2) USSCR & allies consists of: USSCR (and all subsidiaries), the ARSB, and the rest of the Militarized Nations (assumed).
Further, MY helos would have it as they received the transmission.-.-
Iuthia
20-12-2003, 08:29
There are over 100,000 nations on NS so i doubt you like even know we really kind of existed untill today.

OOC: So Nano Soft has nothing to offer me? I was actually asked to come and help Stonies take you out but I declined because I coudn't see any reason to do so and I didn't like him lying to me... but being the president of the NAIA I did actually know you nation well before this thread.

Now you can ignore that post, it has no meaning but I'm not retracting. I'm assuming that I trade with people at least on a small level unless that nation doesn't trade with anyone... yours seems to be the type I may get something from, the lost revenue is hardly anything for me or you, I make Billions every day.

So just ignore it if you don't like it.
20-12-2003, 08:30
(( USSCR= the United Socialist States of Communist Rule. It is a single nation state and I am the Prime Minister of one of their subsidiaries, the C R Enterprises.

I am ready for battle when you are, friend. ))
20-12-2003, 08:32
All OOC:


1) Nano, it's called a black box-- almost all planes have them. In fact, they are so common, it could be considered Godmoding to say that you do not have them in your aircraft after they crash without previously saying so.

2) USSCR & allies consists of: USSCR (and all subsidiaries), the ARSB, and the rest of the Militarized Nations (assumed).
Further, MY helos would have it as they received the transmission.-.-

OOC: Lmfao! I missed that too, Josef. xD
Communist Rule
20-12-2003, 08:33
OOC: We all get brainfarts once in a while. Don't worry. Oh, and get on messenger for a moment, por favor. Need to discuss war plans.
Nano soft
20-12-2003, 08:36
There are over 100,000 nations on NS so i doubt you like even know we really kind of existed untill today.

OOC: So Nano Soft has nothing to offer me? I was actually asked to come and help Stonies take you out but I declined because I coudn't see any reason to do so and I didn't like him lying to me... but being the president of the NAIA I did actually know you nation well before this thread.

Now you can ignore that post, it has no meaning but I'm not retracting. I'm assuming that I trade with people at least on a small level unless that nation doesn't trade with anyone... yours seems to be the type I may get something from, the lost revenue is hardly anything for me or you, I make Billions every day.

So just ignore it if you don't like it.
Well I gues you could of been one of the people I traded oil or other stuff that is dug up from the ground because we like to keep most of our forest. Or something else...


C R Enterprises you and USSCR do not stand a chance. You are asking be you surrender to two Dec./2003 nations? :lol: You make me laugh! Just made my day!

OOC: :lol: :lol: Still made my day! Hahahahahaha! HAHahahahahaha! Well now I will be going I should go to bed. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Communist Rule
20-12-2003, 08:39
Run away. Stay in the sanctity of your dreams. We'll meet you tomorrow. Sleep tight..
20-12-2003, 08:40
(( Then war will be waged by morning. Conflict escalates-- I only hopy you will be ready to meet it, for it does not wait or hasten for any. Good luck, and may the best... well, may USSCR win. ))
Nano soft
20-12-2003, 08:43
Run away. Stay in the sanctity of your dreams. We'll meet you tomorrow. Sleep tight..
Why should I be afriad of you? :? With a push of a button I could make you nation a crater in the ground. But of course I would never do something like that to such a small small small small small nation like you. :lol:

Also I don't know if i'll be on for lond tomorrow, im going to my friends house and have lots of school work.
Nano soft
20-12-2003, 08:46
(( Then war will be waged by morning. Conflict escalates-- I only hopy you will be ready to meet it, for it does not wait or hasten for any. Good luck, and may the best... well, may USSCR win. ))
OOC: No offence but you and your friend are way to cocky. Come on you think you are going to win? You have a pop of 7 million and he has 29 million. I have 842 Million people and I am the UN delegate of the Corporate Islands. You still think you are going to win? See thats what I call cocky.
Communist Rule
20-12-2003, 08:47
Have a good nap. Remember to heat the bottle before drinking the milk.
Nano soft
20-12-2003, 08:52
Have a good nap. Remember to heat the bottle before drinking the milk.
Remember one push of a button so don't push it...

OOC: Im 13, so whatever... :roll:
Communist Rule
20-12-2003, 08:53
Push your button. Maybe it will start singing Sesame Street like the rest of your toys.
20-12-2003, 08:55
(( Last post of the night.. then sleep. Hope the thread doesn't get spamed during that time. o.O; ))

A man approaches the press conference room, again filled to the brim with reporters from across the world...

"Dear men and women of the global press;

As you may or may of not heard previously, war has been officially declared between the USSCR and Nano Soft forces. At the issue of our previous press statement, it was not known what forces would join the USSCR in their fight against the Nano Soft forces. However,"

... he paused to take a breath and clear his throat.

"... although the nation of Nano Soft itself is not a prolific threat, it has now become apparent to the entire region that the Corporate Islands is a significant threat to the peaceful situation of the area. While they don't represent a enemy, their attitude towards human life and their disregard for it could lead to a trend that will ultimately threaten all of their surrounding neighbors, and their actions can only be responded to accordingly. While many frown upon the ICBMs attacks initiated by Nano Soft, others joining the fight against Nano Soft forces simply because of the nation state's lack of appreciation for life and human rights. This is not a fight for territory, resources, or retaliation... No, this is a fight for human rights and justice. These tyrants must be brought down in order to ensure the freedoms, liberties, and lives of the citizens of the world. May many allies join this fight against this horrible evil, in a hopes to topple Nano Soft’s tyrannical regime."

A long pause followed the end of his statement. A few cameras, having been flashing the entire time, let off a few snaps, but most kept quiet. It wasn't until the Prime Minister/Minister of Defense turned to leave that the questions began to start and the cameras really lit up. Two bodyguards joined Dmitri Filitov as he traveled down the hallway and finally disappeared around a corner.

(( All Nations willing to join in the valiant fight are welcome to contact myself or my superior nation, Communist Rule, for details on how Nano Soft started the conflict and what you can do. ))

(( EDIT: LMFAO JOSEF. You are godd! xD ))
Tokushima
20-12-2003, 15:47
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2405497#2405497

ooc: sorry wasnt sure if this ^^^ should've gone here or back on the Marijuana post.
Communist Rule
20-12-2003, 16:52
Either way, good thing you posted here as that MJ page sunk like a rock.
Communist Rule
20-12-2003, 17:02
Hark hear the bump, sweet silver bump, all seem to bump, blah blah
Communist Rule
20-12-2003, 17:04
I let Tokushima bomb my port without resistance because that's what I did to his factory because of that Cannuck-German fellow interrupting. So, after that, anyone who attacks me without leaving your actions open to response will be ignored indefinitely, as I am going out of town. If C R Enterprises takes action against you, it is considered 'frozen' until I get back.... Sorry for any inconveniences against you warmongerers.
Seversky
20-12-2003, 17:08
Seversky will be joining this war soon, we just ask for a summery of what has happened so far.
Tokushima
20-12-2003, 17:26
From the desk of Prime Minister Beej of Tokushima:

All hostilities towards Communist Rule have come to an end. The government has called back the squadron of bombers and fighters and our silos are standing down from full alert.
20-12-2003, 21:39
Your measures are well-considered and also well-counceled, Prime Minister Beej of Tokushima. Insofar, no we have not directly attacked your country, and we do not intend on doing so anytime in the near future. Your understanding, if extended to your ally Nano Soft, might be able to solve this conflict before anymore bloodshed.

Sincerely,
Prime Minister ( C R Enterprises ) & Minister of Defense ( USSCR ),
Dmitri Filitov
20-12-2003, 22:02
(( Oh my god, what's that on your arm?

It's-it's... a huge BUMP! ))
20-12-2003, 22:12
(( Ooooh. Mmhmm, girl, bump that SHUT YO MOUFF! o.O; ))
Nano soft
20-12-2003, 23:18
Seversky will be joining this war soon, we just ask for a summery of what has happened so far.
Well you know how Tokushima was selling drugs right? Well Communist Rule decided to attack his feilds. I sent two squads of S-39s to check it out and they went after Communist Rules Mi-24 which had the team that did it in it. They went and they where all shot down by over 118 missiles. Then I fired two Non-Nuclear Missiles from a sateillite in space at Communist Rule and Solvac Bloc(something like that) for shooting down my aircraft amd attacking the feilds. But Solvac Bloc didn't attack the fields he attacked my aircraft. Now you are all up to date! :)
20-12-2003, 23:56
(( Nice spelling, Nano. Also, two large ground forces from central USSCR are mobilizing and heading towards the war zone as well as a naval task force comprised of three nuclear carriers. ))
Iuthia
21-12-2003, 00:35
They went and they where all shot down by over 118 missiles. Then I fired two Non-Nuclear ICBM Missiles from a sateillite in space at Communist Rule and Solvac Bloc(something like that) for shooting down my aircraft amd attacking the feilds.

The above has been edited to include another peice of information. We would like to note that while Iuthia supports the drug producing nation of Tokushima we have condemned Nano Soft for their potentially tragic launch of ICBM missiles, while they have apologised for these actions (admiting they were in the wrong to use ICBM's, though they stand by their attack with good reason) so we willl only be blocking trade from their nation for another 10 years, along with keeping them on our Blacklist.
Communist Rule
21-12-2003, 00:39
OOC: I'm back. Oh, and Dmitriy, Nice work.

IC: An large, political, and carefully-written statement is issued to Tokushima basically saying, "Good." Reconstruction has been initiated on the lightly used trading port, as the nation does not have any permanent international importing or exporting. Further, an ultimatum has been posed:

Nation of Nano Soft--
Send all your ICBM-bearing space satellites burning to the ground and cease any and all hostilities or face war.
Communist Rule
21-12-2003, 00:43
Well you know how Tokushima was selling drugs right? Well Communist Rule decided to attack his feilds. I sent two squads of S-39s to check it out and they went after Communist Rules Mi-24 which had the team that did it in it. My jets went and ordered the helicopters to state intentions and origin or be shot down. The refused and I fired 2 radar-guided missiles from each of my 14 planes. The missiles were avoided by chaff and jamming from the nation of Soviet Bloc below. All of my planes were all shot down by over 118 enemy missiles. Then I fired two Non-Nuclear ICBMs from a sateillite in space at Communist Rule and Soviet Bloc(something like that) for shooting down my aircraft amd attacking the feilds. But Soviet Bloc didn't attack the fields he attacked my aircraft. The missile in Soviet Bloc cripped his largest airbase and the missile in Communist Rule destroyed a mult-national, joint research center. Now you are all up to date! :)

I edited it to make the facts more incriminating, and not make it appear as if he was wronged.
Klington
21-12-2003, 02:12
It was dark, extremly dark.
The General Of Klington, could smell that war was close.
An officer walked up to the general and said "Sir, Permission to speak sir!" The General turned around, and the officer saw something new in the general, but it wasant new it had always been their, the excitement of war, the love for it. That was all the general ever knew.
"Permission Granted." He said.
"The 4th infantry devision is ready, along with the battle tortise's and droids." "Good!"
"The Armed helicopters are ready, and we have permission form a borderline country to move in."
And so it began, the helicopters flew towards the border, and stoped right in front of it. They quickly set up their make-shift base. The Helicopters dropped 2 MJLS's and 1 Comm. Tortise and 1 Missle Tortise. "The General smiled, and said, "From here we can move in and when we get weak, the troops can move back for rest."
The helicopters flew in a 2nd battlion, known as the 8th Infantry devision, it consisted of 250 troops, amd from their they started out towards the border...

Encrypted Message to: USSCR
Encrypted at: The Armed Republic Of Klington
~Begin Transmission~
Sweat Trickled down the presidents face,
"Hello friend. I have come to aid you in this war, and I have set out a base right outside the Border of Nano Soft, perhaps you have not realized this but my base is weak at the moment, and I am requesting backup, If you move to this base you will have a much better tactical area to attack from, and to retreat to( I doubt we will be retreating).
Please join my men. Together we can crush Nano Soft.
-The President of Klington
~End Transmission~
It was not official yet but, we all new war was inevitable.
Good Luck.
Communist Rule
21-12-2003, 02:38
A short encrypted message is supplied:
Mechanized Infantry and Armour moving into your position.
Klington
21-12-2003, 02:43
Wonderful!
I shall telegram you to discuss, military strategy.
Tokushima
21-12-2003, 04:30
We urge all nations involved in this escalating conflict, namely Nano Soft and Communist Rule, to stand down before anymore lives are lost in this senseless war. All hostilities from Tokushima to the original instigator of these events, Communist Rule, have ended, therefore there is no point to continue to escalate hostilities.

Nano Soft, we will honor our Mutual Protection Pact but, we urge your nation to stand down before we are all plunged to total war.

Beej
Prime Minister of The People's Republic of Tokushima
Nano soft
21-12-2003, 04:33
It was dark, extremly dark.
The General Of Klington, could smell that war was close.
An officer walked up to the general and said "Sir, Permission to speak sir!" The General turned around, and the officer saw something new in the general, but it wasant new it had always been their, the excitement of war, the love for it. That was all the general ever knew.
"Permission Granted." He said.
"The 4th infantry devision is ready, along with the battle tortise's and droids." "Good!"
"The Armed helicopters are ready, and we have permission form a borderline country to move in."
And so it began, the helicopters flew towards the border, and stoped right in front of it. They quickly set up their make-shift base. The Helicopters dropped 2 MJLS's and 1 Comm. Tortise and 1 Missle Tortise. "The General smiled, and said, "From here we can move in and when we get weak, the troops can move back for rest."
The helicopters flew in a 2nd battlion, known as the 8th Infantry devision, it consisted of 250 troops, amd from their they started out towards the border...

Encrypted Message to: USSCR
Encrypted at: The Armed Republic Of Klington
~Begin Transmission~
Sweat Trickled down the presidents face,
"Hello friend. I have come to aid you in this war, and I have set out a base right outside the Border of Nano Soft, perhaps you have not realized this but my base is weak at the moment, and I am requesting backup, If you move to this base you will have a much better tactical area to attack from, and to retreat to( I doubt we will be retreating).
Please join my men. Together we can crush Nano Soft.
-The President of Klington
~End Transmission~
It was not official yet but, we all new war was inevitable.
Good Luck.
OOC:You Num skull, look at the title of my region! "Corporate Islands", yes I very do hope you know what a island is because that is what I am on. ALso it is im possible for you to have a base right on the boader of my country first of all because we are in totaly diffrent regions! Jeez ask before you just go making your own maps! :roll:

IC
Nation of Nano Soft--
Send all your ICBM-bearing space satellites burning to the ground and cease any and all hostilities or face war.
HA! If any thing I should be the one making threats! None of my sateillites shall burn or be destroyed! The nation of Nano Soft has stoped hostilities, your the one who keeps doing it and we are not afriad to face you in war. I am over 20x larger than you what should I be afriad of?
Nano soft
21-12-2003, 04:37
We urge all nations involved in this escalating conflict, namely Nano Soft and Communist Rule, to stand down before anymore lives are lost in this senseless war. All hostilities from Tokushima to the original instigator of these events, Communist Rule, have ended, therefore there is no point to continue to escalate hostilities.

Nano Soft, we will honor our Mutual Protection Pact but, we urge your nation to stand down before we are all plunged to total war.

Beej
Prime Minister of The People's Republic of Tokushima
We have ended all hostilities, we have no means of a war for we are to busy for this foolishness made by Communist Rule I have other things I would rather do then waste my time here.
21-12-2003, 04:41
(( If the demands are not met, nano soft, hostilities will not end. We will proceed with our battle plan if the ultimatum is not met within 24 hours. ))
Klington
21-12-2003, 05:49
It was dark, extremly dark.
The General Of Klington, could smell that war was close.
An officer walked up to the general and said "Sir, Permission to speak sir!" The General turned around, and the officer saw something new in the general, but it wasant new it had always been their, the excitement of war, the love for it. That was all the general ever knew.
"Permission Granted." He said.
"The 4th infantry devision is ready, along with the battle tortise's and droids." "Good!"
"The Armed helicopters are ready, and we have permission form a borderline country to move in."
And so it began, the helicopters flew towards the border, and stoped right in front of it. They quickly set up their make-shift base. The Helicopters dropped 2 MJLS's and 1 Comm. Tortise and 1 Missle Tortise. "The General smiled, and said, "From here we can move in and when we get weak, the troops can move back for rest."
The helicopters flew in a 2nd battlion, known as the 8th Infantry devision, it consisted of 250 troops, amd from their they started out towards the border...

Encrypted Message to: USSCR
Encrypted at: The Armed Republic Of Klington
~Begin Transmission~
Sweat Trickled down the presidents face,
"Hello friend. I have come to aid you in this war, and I have set out a base right outside the Border of Nano Soft, perhaps you have not realized this but my base is weak at the moment, and I am requesting backup, If you move to this base you will have a much better tactical area to attack from, and to retreat to( I doubt we will be retreating).
Please join my men. Together we can crush Nano Soft.
-The President of Klington
~End Transmission~
It was not official yet but, we all new war was inevitable.
Good Luck.
OOC:You Num skull, look at the title of my region! "Corporate Islands", yes I very do hope you know what a island is because that is what I am on. ALso it is im possible for you to have a base right on the boader of my country first of all because we are in totaly diffrent regions! Jeez ask before you just go making your own maps! :roll:

IC
Nation of Nano Soft--
Send all your ICBM-bearing space satellites burning to the ground and cease any and all hostilities or face war.
HA! If any thing I should be the one making threats! None of my sateillites shall burn or be destroyed! The nation of Nano Soft has stoped hostilities, your the one who keeps doing it and we are not afriad to face you in war. I am over 20x larger than you what should I be afriad of?

Okay then, sorry, my bad.
Them I have permission to move onto an island next door right outside your border.OK! Then my troops move off towards your island...
Klington
21-12-2003, 05:51
Well since their is no map, I guess you share an island with another country, therefore my last post is void. And my orginal post is put back up.
Nano soft
21-12-2003, 06:06
Well since their is no map, I guess you share an island with another country, therefore my last post is void. And my orginal post is put back up.
NO NO NO! You cant just go making maps up! I actully made a map of my country the other day and it does not share the island with any one else! Also ALL islands in the Coprorate Islands are OCUPIED! So play it fair like every one else on nation states and send you little men on boats and aircraft! If you keep up with this right next door crap I will ignore you because you cant just say your right next door because then you could do that in every war! Also think of the size of our world! It is the size of Jupiter! So your probally half way across the world!
Iuthia
21-12-2003, 06:06
OOC: Well, I'll be damned if I'm going to get involved in this, Iuthia is big enough to push the balence in any direction it should want... however I'm not interested in a conflict at this time and my only interest is making sure that Tokushima is not oppressed by moralistic nations who feel the need to force their own restrictions on others... that said.

Klington? You still sending troops into Tokushima? Becuase you never once paid attention to my requests for how they got there, where they came from seeing as they can't just fly nation to nation, chances are that the distance is too great, which means Carriers and navel fleets, which can be seen miles off.

So if you are still sending forces into Tokushima, please detail the following:

How your forces got in range of his nation - without using the lame excuse of "we found a friendly island near his nation..." that rarely happens and it would have to be RPed with someone in his region with proof.

What support vessals you have to keep them from running out of food, ammunition and other essential supplies...

General OOC outlay of your fleet


After this I would ask you to take into acount that real free form roleplay gives the defender a chance to retaliate against actions, so first claim you are heading towards his nation, then wait for responce, then the actual enterance, then responce, then attack, then responce. Why? Because it's fair.
Communist Rule
21-12-2003, 07:18
12 hours remain.
21-12-2003, 07:50
All infantry forces that will be committed to the battle are now preparing to leave from the USSCR's capital. Their numbers are great-- about 3 divisions accumulative from across the USSCR and C R Enterprises. They form the I Infantry Corps and they begin to board trains that will take them within ten miles of the battle zone. Three-hundred UAZs and 1000 URALs are mobilizing at the troops rail station destination, filling their flatbeds and cabins with enough food, ammunition and other battlefield requirements to last at least two months. They will wait under the AA protection around the rail yard for the I Infantry Corps soldiers and then they will set out with the infantry to the battle zone.

The battle zone itself is a large area, about 200 kM, with a wide river running down its center. It is flat, with rolling plains of rice fields for the most part. Nano Soft occupies the eastern side, and the USSCR and the Militarized Nations occupy the Western Bank. The battle zone lays about 35 kM up-river from the delta and the coast. There, the river empties into a giant ocean. Task Force Occidental, which set out from port fully-supplied two days ago, is closing in on the delta. A classified number of Alfa-class SSNs race forward to secure the area around the delta while the ASW cruisers and frigates protect the approaching nuclear carriers. They launch patrols every two hours so that 4 airplanes are in the sky at all times. The MiG-31s launched from the decks of the three nuclear aircraft carriers are fast enough to intercept almost any plane on the planet and can fire on enemies from over 30 kM away with their advance missiles and missile guidance systems.

Meanwhile, Task Force Red joined up with its support trucks and moved into the battle area. They dug-in just north of a bend in the river, on one of the highest hills in the area and re-fueled. They have a good view of the area and thus a good understanding of the situation. With supply trucks always within 2 kMs of the tanks position, they have enough ammo to fire on any movement on Nano Soft's side of the river. The supply trucks are also kept far enough back to evade most fire, and they are camouflaged with terrain netting just incase. The T-06 Main Battle Tanks number about three battalions and have a firm grip on the area. Plans are currently being made for T-05 tanks to be parachute dropped into the area behind Task Force Red so as to reinforce their position. So far, they have received little challenge, and fire from their perches unchecked. AA guns and missile emplacements are also found near the tanks, as well as the Mi-24 HinD-Es and their support crews nearby.

Defenses are also being set-up around the homeland. Kilo- and Alfa-class submarines are now securing ports around the homeland. MiG-31s patrol USSCR's rolling countryside every night, ready for any sort of attack made by Nano Soft. The pilots are rather green, but burning with courage. Reserve units are also being assembled across the nation, and both armor and infantry battalions are beginning to from in the nations capital for rapid deployment. Intelligence suggests they will be ready within a week.

So, to summarize, Task Force Red with about three battalions worth of T-06 Main Battle Tanks is dug-in North of the battle zone on an elevated piece of land. They have a huge support crew and enough supplies to last a month. They also have three squadrons of Mi-24 Hind-Es with their support crews. Their position is reinforced with AA emplacements. Task Force Occidental is nearing The River's delta, with Alfa-class SSNs rushing ahead to secure its waterways. The I Infantry Corps has set-off by train from the USSCR's capital to a railway station near the battle zone. There, the I Corps will meet a huge support force that will supply and ferry them into the battle zone.

The battle seems to tinker on the first shot. Bloodshed, if avoidable, wishes to be minimized on both sides. Who, if any, will strike first? It may be a deciding factor in who the battle's victor is.
21-12-2003, 09:45
(( Bump, bump, bump... do the bump, bump, bump... do the...

Still waitin for a response, Nano. =D ))
21-12-2003, 10:23
Good Lord ! It is the wish of El Presidente de Tucanaria that we must help fight these aggressive leftist revolutionaries ! *sends 20 million Tucanarian pesos ( US$ 500 ) and 500 rifles to Nano *
Nano soft
21-12-2003, 15:39
battle zone
OOC:What is the battle zone already?!??!?!?! If its my country you cant come within ten miles of it on train and you would have a hell of a time trying to find a place to hide on water while missiles are flying at you.
Klington
21-12-2003, 16:22
oK THEN YUOR RIGHT i WILL LATE TILL LATER TO MOVE IN
Communist Rule
21-12-2003, 17:37
battle zone
OOC:What is the battle zone already?!??!?!?! If its my country you cant come within ten miles of it on train and you would have a hell of a time trying to find a place to hide on water while missiles are flying at you.

I believe he is basing this on the fact that you have troops on my border. Thus we're going to kill them all, and then proceed to your nation with strong allied support unless you send your satellites burning through the atmosphere.
Communist Rule
21-12-2003, 17:38
Ok, then you're right. I will [wait] till later to move in.

Post was edited for clarity.
21-12-2003, 17:46
whilst those two wage war, i shall use my propaganda in their countries. They'll be too busy to notice!
21-12-2003, 17:46
whilst those two wage war, i shall use my propaganda in their countries. They'll be too busy to notice!
Communist Rule
21-12-2003, 17:48
What forms of propaganda? Airborne brouchures would be impossible as the plane would be incinerated within 40 km... A truck with a speaker on top? Yeah right, martial law is in effect. Troops are out on the streets. TV? Yeah, you can try, but you won't be able to access our satellite.
21-12-2003, 17:49
The Confederacy of Tokarev formaly offers our aid to our allie, the USSCR. We are preparing to mobilize our armies.
Communist Rule
21-12-2003, 17:51
The USSCR gratefully and humbly accepts the Tokarevian assistance, and reaffirms that it will always aid Tokarev in conflicts.
21-12-2003, 17:56
Two Airship Dreadnoughts and one Airship Carrier move to USSCR territory, preparing to disembark 100,000 infantry regulars and 200 T-98E Tanks.
Communist Rule
21-12-2003, 18:00
The USSCR issues a word of warning towards the Tokarevian embassy in the USSCR's capitol. "Enemy has Spaced-based weaponry. City bombardment imminent. Suggest evacuation to extensive, hardened-armoured, subway system."
Communist Rule
21-12-2003, 18:20
-Generalissimo Lobonsky sits in his office looking at photos of Nano Soft's island defense system. He turns them towards the window behind his desk, giving more light to the picture. He sets it aside, knowing already how to break through. He stares through the extremely thick windows (to prevent a sniper bullet) at the capitol of the USSCR, in the region formerly known as Nenetsky AO. The city has yet to be named, and has just been called the Capitol. He thinks that after this war, the city will have a name and reputation.-
Communist Rule
21-12-2003, 18:40
I would like to announce that as of now, the Dominion of Zokk controls USSCR navy.
Zokk
21-12-2003, 19:01
[Open statement to the press of Zokk's capital city]

People of Zokk, we now join our new comrades in the fight against Nanosoft. This nation will join with The Colony of C R Enterprises, The United Socialist States of Communist Rule and their allies and assist in every way possible. That is all for now.

[End of open statement]
Klington
21-12-2003, 19:24
Please surrender, now, and meet the demands of the USSCR.
We do not wish to have war but will back our allies 100%.
And remember, "A warrior is sharper than his sword."
My contry may be small, but we can still pack a wallop.
-Thank You
Communist Rule
21-12-2003, 20:01
The Ultimatum Was Not Obeyed. We will give you three more hours to comply. This is your last warning.
Communist Rule
21-12-2003, 20:05
BUMP
Zokk
21-12-2003, 20:06
It is the opinon of the Dominion of Zokk that the nation of Nanosoft should immediately comply with the wishes of the USSCR. Further delay will mean war and your time is quickly running out. You should be thankful for the consideration of the USSCR for allowing you more time to deliberate, but his kindness will not last for long. Comply now, while you still can. Even as I speak, the pieces are being moved into position. You have two options: honorable compliance, or devastating war.

-Grand Admiral Ramius,

Commander USSCR Naval Forces, Emperor of the Dominion of Zokk
Nano soft
21-12-2003, 20:15
-Generalissimo Lobonsky sits in his office looking at photos of Nano Soft's island defense system. He turns them towards the window behind his desk, giving more light to the picture. He sets it aside, knowing already how to break through. He stares through the extremely thick windows (to prevent a sniper bullet) at the capitol of the USSCR, in the region formerly known as Nenetsky AO. The city has yet to be named, and has just been called the Capitol. He thinks that after this war, the city will have a name and reputation.-
First of all my whole defence system is based under ground so there is no way you can get pictures of it. Also only Ro-Bots main tain and watch my defence system so there should be no humans looking at them while in times of no war around Nano Soft, if there where they would be dead.


I would also like to state the Nano Soft has no troops in or near Communist Rule.

OOC: I have to go be back tonight.
Communist Rule
21-12-2003, 20:19
OOC: Ever heard of thermal imaging? -sigh-
Zokk
21-12-2003, 21:35
In a hardened bunker in the Dominion of Zokk, the country's ruler sits before rows of displays and master situation monitors watching the deployments of the USSCR Navy. Submarine flotillas running deep and quiet are nearly in position, waiting merely for the order to strike before unleashing their deadly payloads on soft targets. Surface groups are maintaining a respectful distance from Nanosoft borders and territorial waters (as are the submarines), but they need only to hear the word to begin their strike. For the moment, they're all quiet, passive, waiting. The ultimatum, extended by Generalissimo Lobonsky has but one hour and twenty minutes remaining in it, and then the havoc and chaos of war will begin.
Communist Rule
21-12-2003, 22:01
-In the nation's man airfields, there is a flurry of activity. Bombs and missiles are being attached to hardpoints, raised into bomb bays, fuel lines connecting and putting in their fuel. Pilots are being briefed. Computers are being updated with tactical information. Flight mechanics are going over the aircraft. The time draws near.-
Zokk
21-12-2003, 22:09
Communications dispatches come in from all naval battlegroup commanders, including the submarines. All is in readiness for the attack, as just fifty minutes remain before the word is to be given. Within the hulls of the mighty missile submarines, the tubes containing cruise missiles are checked and rechecked to ensure a smooth launch and flight to the target. Overall, each individual submarine, whether a heavy hitter or a hunter killer is quiet as a stone, floating gently through the cold, dark waters of the deep. On the surface, the large battlegroups formed around aircraft carriers and huge battleships move in racetrack patterns, patrol craft flying overhead to ensure no surprises from the enemy. Nerves are frayed, tense with excitement, anxious to hear the cry of battle or the sound of the enemy's surrender.
21-12-2003, 22:35
Five Rogov-class landing ships can be found loading the three infantry divisions formerly headed for The River. Task Force Red as also called back along with its entire support force. Task Force Red was joined by 100 URALs and three battalions worth of T-80UM1s. The URALs will supply the entire task force with supplies. The infantry and tanks combined fill up three of the Rogov-class landing ships. Another is used for artillery and ammo for the said artillery pieces. The fifth and final landing ship is filled to the brim with any surplus supplies that could be expected. Specialty vehicles such as flame throwers, tractors, communique and minesweeper tanks are also being loaded onto the final landing ship.

"Colonel," Minister of Defense Dmitri Filitov started to the man at his right, "What comes from Zokk? Will they support my landing ships?"

"Word was just sent. We telegramed them, Comrade Minister."

Filitov nods, hoping that Zokk will receive his telegram. He also sends word back to Generalissmo Lobonsky asking for MiG cover for their dangeorus passage.

"War may yet still be avoided, but until then, we must prepare for the worst," he says more to himself than anyone. Despite the grim atmosphere, a smile can be found on the Minister's face. "Open war... is almost upon us."

After a few moments, Dmitri turns to his Colonel. "Telegram Zokk again. Make sure he knows I have placed Task Force Occidental (3 nuclear aircraft carriers, alfa-class SSNs and some ASW cruisers and frigates) near The River's delta. He may use them as he pleases."

Nods as the Colonel salutes before running off. Dmitri turns back to the sunset on the receeding waves. It was lowtide again. He smiled. Soon, it would be his chance to shine.
21-12-2003, 22:37
21-12-2003, 22:44
peace out man
Zokk
21-12-2003, 22:45
An officer comes to him, delivering the telegrams. Ramius looks over them and nods. "Dispatch to C R Enterprises that we will indeed cover the landing force with a mixture of surface and submerged units. Also, send him a thank you note for apprising me of the river delta force."

With just six minutes to deployment, the forces of the USSCR navy are in position, ready, and waiting to unleash hell upon soft targets in the nation of Nanosoft. With underground defenses, they will not be able to dissuade his entire attack.
21-12-2003, 22:53
Dmitri checks his watch. He had just finished reading the telegram from Ramius (Hey there Ramius, glad you could come, man). He looked back up to the view from the back door of his APC...

The landing ships were forming now in the bay. Two columns of two, with the fifth ship taking a rear-position. Missile boats were all the defense the larger ships had until the escort group arrived. Mi-24 Hind-Es circled above and around the ships. They had rockets and fuel tanks attached, and could provide some support up to about 50 kM offshore. Then they would have to return to their support crews and re-fuel.

The ships turned and began to move from the bay. Missile boats formed a 'V' formation in front of the five landing ships and pinged the seafloor with active sonar. The Hinds circled about 50 meters about the water, the pilots keeping watch for periscope trails or torpedoes...

Filitov relaxed in his chair. It was out of his hands now, until his soldiers set foot on the shore. Their approach was masked by 3 more Rogov-class ships and a few destroyers heading towards the isles from the East. It was very unlikely that Nano would know which way the attack was coming from or how strong it was. MiG-31s flew overhead at near atmospheric levels, watching for any satellites that might pass. Their advanced missiles would be able to take any satellite down... "Godspeed, Ramius..."
Zokk
21-12-2003, 22:58
As the landing force begins to move, destroyers form up with them and Kilo-class submarines take up positions both at periscope depth and submerged beneath them, ensuring safety through force. Far out ahead, the heavy hitters and the hunter killers rise in tandom to missile launching depth and the cruise missile tubes are flooded in preparation for deployment. Other Oscar-class submarines wait further behind, their cruise missile tubes flooded and ready, prepared for a two-stage missile assault that will surely pave the way for allied forces to land without harassment. Scant few minutes remain.
Communist Rule
21-12-2003, 23:01
-Suddenly screaming over the bay our 7 F-16s dedicated to cover the fleet while in the bay. In all cities across the USSCR, flak cannons and SAMs are activated, spotlights wheeled out, and the sea wall that has been constructed since the beginning of the conflict is manned and ready. One single message is heard on all USSCR radios. "For the Motherland!" The attack has come.-
Zokk
21-12-2003, 23:16
From the depths of the waters around Nanosoft, cruise missiles by the hundreds rise from the depths, screaming into the air and reaching their necessary speeds in a matter of seconds. They rise to altitudes of several thousand feet and begin their relatively short journey to targets in Nanosoft. Without visible defenses to hit, the missiles scream down towards harbors and cities with the intent of striking warehouses, factories, cargo ships, oil tankers, transportation hubs, freight hubs, rail lines, dockyards, industrial complexes, communications networks, interstates, bridges, tunnels, subway lines and hubs, runways and terminals of airports, hangers, sitting aircraft, radar stations, radio communications centers, and cell phone towers. The goal is the total disruption of life as Nanosoft knows it, limited civilian casualties intended, but maximum destruction the overall objective.

In addition the missile launches, hunter killer submarines, as well as the boomers launch waves of torpedoes towards missile boats, leaving scant little time for the very quick moving torpedoes, already released to auto home on their targets from depths of 70 feet or more, two or more fish designated for each boat. Also, the surface groups launch missiles at visible naval units and also any ships known to be sailing for Nanosoft. Torpedoes and missiles scream towards the missile boats, little warning from the deep, and no mercy allowed. The entire first phase of the operation took less than 90 seconds to deploy. In his bunker, Grand Admiral Ramius looks upon the forces under his command and smiles.
Zokk
21-12-2003, 23:17
From the depths of the waters around Nanosoft, cruise missiles by the hundreds rise from the depths, screaming into the air and reaching their necessary speeds in a matter of seconds. They rise to altitudes of several thousand feet and begin their relatively short journey to targets in Nanosoft. Without visible defenses to hit, the missiles scream down towards harbors and cities with the intent of striking warehouses, factories, cargo ships, oil tankers, transportation hubs, freight hubs, rail lines, dockyards, industrial complexes, communications networks, interstates, bridges, tunnels, subway lines and hubs, runways and terminals of airports, hangers, sitting aircraft, radar stations, radio communications centers, and cell phone towers. The goal is the total disruption of life as Nanosoft knows it, limited civilian casualties intended, but maximum destruction the overall objective.

In addition the missile launches, hunter killer submarines, as well as the boomers launch waves of torpedoes towards missile boats, leaving scant little time for the very quick moving torpedoes, already released to auto home on their targets from depths of 70 feet or more, two or more fish designated for each boat. Also, the surface groups launch missiles at visible naval units and also any ships known to be sailing for Nanosoft. Torpedoes and missiles scream towards the missile boats, little warning from the deep, and no mercy allowed. The entire first phase of the operation took less than 90 seconds to deploy. In his bunker, Grand Admiral Ramius looks upon the forces under his command and smiles.
Communist Rule
21-12-2003, 23:37
From Lindstrom AFB launch four B1-B lancers. They rise into the sky with majestic might, banking lightly and getting ready to cross the great sea towards the island Nano Soft lies on. Reaching an altitude of 37,000 feet, their bomb bay doors open and from it flies two bombs. These large bombs are guided by lasers and heading towards the underground coastal defenses, each in a large depleted uranium shell to give it a very heavy weight. In the coastal airforce base of Omar, two squadrons of F-15Es take off accompanied by 3 E-111As. The F-15Es are loaded with both A/A and A/G armament and the E-111As primarily jamming. Soaring across the water they wait for the already returning B-1Bs to finish refueling from a KC-135. They then top their tanks, heading towards Nano Softian territory. The E-111As stay relatively high, emitting strong false radar returns and making it extremely difficult for missiles, ground radar, and planes to track them. The F-15Es are also jamming, having switched from Emissions Limit. They receive the order to switch to A/G ordinance and each drop a GBU-28 from two hardpoints, accounting for 28 GBUs seperately targeted at the underground defenses. They soon bank wide and begin their egress.
22-12-2003, 01:25
The Tokarian Airship Dreadnoughts move lazily in the air above Nano Soft, belying their deadly nature. Suddenly, hundreds of cruise missiles, bombs, mines, and explosive shells start firing down on the island nation, intending to strike fear into the populace and cripple military infrastructure. Ten B1-B lancers and 5 B-52s launch from the Dreadnoughts flight decks and begin their own bombing runs against the port cities of Nano Soft.






Meanwhile, back in Tokarev territorial waters, a large naval task force prepares to head out to blockade Nano Soft and further cripple its fighting power.
Klington
22-12-2003, 01:29
The General sat smoked his cigar, quietly. Thinking, and looking at the map in front of him.
The Admiral sat beside, neither talked, it was like they had a mental link, they both new what had to be done.
An Officer walked up,"Sir! Permission to speak Sir!' The General did a quick nod, to overencumbered in thought to speak.
"Sir, "Operation Monoply Breakup", is under way, sir!"
"Good" The admiral and the general said at the same time.
The USSCR were flying their jets in for an attack, the General had set up a rally point for his 10 a10 "Warthogs" to join the USSCR Airforces.
Since they were on an Aircraft Carrier it was carried out without hesitation, and he had TITO forces on the line(not for war) but to refuel his jets(in midair) if they couldnt make it.
As soon as an out of breath soldier came running his way he knew it had started,"What is it?" he asked. "Sir, they have attacked them from the sea." "Well, it wont take long for Nano Soft to mobilize his forces their, we must head over there for backup." Yes, ssir!"
Little did they know what they were getting into......
Communist Rule
22-12-2003, 02:01
OOC: We have to wait for either my Minister of Defense to post or Nano Soft before we can continue. Again, thanks to all allies who are helping.
Klington
22-12-2003, 02:30
I sent you a telegram,(Im talking to the USSCR), it has a new strategy in it.
Its important that you read it.
Nano soft
22-12-2003, 03:15
OOC: Ever heard of thermal imaging? -sigh-
OOC:Ever heard that it doesn't give off any heat unless it is active.
OOC2: Also I would like all of you to RE write your post since you went way way to far ahead and now you are just godmoding. If you do not I will ignore this war because you people are moving way way to fast and not giving me a chance you catch up or post defences.
Zokk
22-12-2003, 03:30
OOC: Our posts will stand because it won't take much for you read them and post appropriate reactions. We're the aggressors, you're the defender, and those are our opening moves. If you were paying attention, you would see that NONE OF THESE ACTIONS HAVE ANY REACTIONS! We are giving you time to defend yourself... but our opening moves stand. If you don't like it... tough. If we were mean, we would already have declared all of our hits and left you with nothing but charred and blackened landscapes. If you're smart, you'll find ways to accurately respond to our moves while still maintaining continuity.
22-12-2003, 03:41
(( Exactly. Those are all valid actions to start a war. We gave your MORE than enuff time to comply to our ultimatum, and since you have not, you will suffer the consuquences. We are waiting for you to attempt to defend yourself, Nano. ))
Communist Rule
22-12-2003, 03:48
Also, no damage has been reported. That's not godmoding. If you're afraid, fine, ignore us. We will therefore ignore everything you ever do.
Secondly, thermal imaging would show the difference in temperature between subterrain and surface. This was all OOC, I should add.
Communist Rule
22-12-2003, 03:49
And another thing, the only actions created were after the Ultimatum. Everything else was simply strategic placement and preparations. Those were in no way godmoding, as they didn't include anyone but ourselves. Further we will not repost, our actions are valid and you must report damages.
22-12-2003, 04:25
OOC: He isn't on right now, but I'd be scared too if I were him. He may be out looking for allies. xD
Zokk
22-12-2003, 04:33
OOC: Yeah. Seems like we have the upper hand in terms of both manpower and sheer firepower. I don't get it... we asked very little, why must he resist?
Klington
22-12-2003, 04:35
I sent you another t-gram, Communist Rule.
22-12-2003, 04:36
(( From http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=105467&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=60 :

Hey, crappypants, heres a lesson:

If you are launching missles from 50 light years away, the war will be over by the time they arrive (even at lightspeed). Unless you have a suppior technology, in which case, you cannot participate due to the point that you would beat us thanks to such technology.



So, to sum it all up:
You have been
IGNORED

That is another choice, of course. Through some reading on this board, I have found that many of the higher-ranked nations choose to ignore Nano due to his large numbers of godmodes and lack of RP skill. Perhaps we should as well if he decides not to acknowledge our valid attacks? ))
Klington
22-12-2003, 04:38
I shall come back tomorrow, you have control of my forces (that are in battle) until then.
Zokk
22-12-2003, 04:38
OOC: If he decides to ignore our valid attacks, I say we declare victory, blow up his satellites, and be done with it.
Soviet Bloc
22-12-2003, 04:38
The ARSB stands behind its allies and as of now, the entire military has been put on alert. DP-21 interceptor squadrons have been put on alert for immediate use as well as all airborne assault squadrons (including 16 airborne armored assault squadrons). Twelve armored corps have been activated including one reserve corp as well as fourteen infantry divisions.

We will not hesitate to take quick and decisive action against Nano soft.
Zokk
22-12-2003, 04:42
[Transmission from The Dominion of Zokk Military Headquarters to Soviet Bloc]

Comrade,

Your assistance in this matter is appreciated, and the military force you have tasked for use in this affair is greatly appreciated. I look forward to coordinating with you and your command.

Sincerely,

Grand Admiral Ramius,

Commander USSCR Naval Forces, Emperor of Zokk
Soviet Bloc
22-12-2003, 04:52
[Transmission to Dominion of Zokk Military Headquarters]

We were one of the original members of this conflict and feel the need to aid our allies in this conflict. Our military assistance does not end with what I said, all military forces of ours located in the USSCR at our base are currently being mobilized for combat in either offense or for the defense of the USSCR. I have also decided to activate six more infantry divisions, four more armored corps including two reserve corps, all air cavalry forces, and all remaining parachute regiments, save for our lone reserve regiment. We have also activated two more DP-21 interceptor squadrons as they have proved deadly thus far (neutralizing four Nano soft S-39 fighters) and should prove useful in this conflict. To aid ground ventures we have activated four squadrons for anti-tank and ground-attack aircraft (DP-21G) which should prove equally useful. We are looking forward to assisting you and our allies.

Premier Boris Chlevenkov
Premier, Armed Republic of Soviet Bloc
Zokk
22-12-2003, 04:55
[Transmission to Soviet Bloc]

Forgive me comrade, I was not aware. However, if you require naval escort for troop transports or armor carriers, I will be glad to provide it.

-Ramius
Iuthia
22-12-2003, 05:03
OOC: Just for fairness, I'm going to add some criticism to the anti-Nano Soft side for once, Nano has got alot of OOC flack from me but this war is becoming a little silly.

Ok, firstly I would like to point out that his nation is twice the size of all your combined nations, he is claiming Near Future tech (or Future tech) and he can support a larger army with better equipment thanks to his good economy and large size.

Meanwhile, your December nations seem to be running Modern tech and with low populations you are assumed to have less resources which means you will likely have less money to put into your military and support... I admit, size doesn't matter but you have to RP the fact that you don't have the military capability that bigger nations do... you just can't make as much as we can or afford as much resources to support your war effort.

Forgetting that, you are not taking into account that he is on the defence, which means he has the advantage, you have to get your troops to his nation using realistic methods (in this case you will need Naval Units, which are very costly, a good Carrier like the Nimitz will cost about $4'000'000'000 (USD) which can carry around 70-85 aircraft...) and then protect this Navy.

Meanwhile your support line will be alot longer then his, it could take you more then a week to get more weapons and ammo so you will need lots of support ships. His supplies are only hours away at most. Breaching his land is also a hard part of an invasion, you will need to make a small "breach" onto his shores with small landing ships (each with a squad and a tank max) seeing as larger ships cannot safely get men off without a port, which will need to be taken by the smaller force you've beached.

Basically you need to get local superiourity over his troops, which means you have to have more men and firepower at a local level... he can't have all of his men in one place because that leaves him in the others.

Once you have a port you can get more men and support onto his land and then work an invasion from their, baring in mind you can't go further then you can support, support will be slow unless you can catch more ports...


If you want to be simple I would suggest only invading someone with three times more men then they have, which you will definatly don't have... I can understand why he isn't worried. His supply lines are small and plentiful, yours depend on Naval Domination along with careful tactics...

Oh, and you have to pay attnetion the to details he gives you about geography, it's his nation and he dictates what it looks like, also you have to give him chance to respond to each move from each player, so you all move in, he responds, then you all move again, he responds... doing otherwise is concidered ignorable.

I'll add links later that may help you, but I doubt they will help because they detail the fact that more wars are won with logistics... a small fact for you:

Each soldier has enough food on him to feed him for 3 days and enough ammo for one day solid fighting... then he needs support from your supply lines.

War isn't cheep lads, wish you luck, cause I think you are screwed...
imported_Comdidia
22-12-2003, 05:10
OOC: One thing. WOW Iuthia i think your a little too good at doing that. But at least it makes sense. (I've seen other people say that but they always insert noob or stupid into each sentance so they sound extremely dumb.)
Ok go back to your war against Nano (you people fighting him) I want to see how this go's.........

*this has been a paid random comment by the Comdidian Random Comment Organization.*
22-12-2003, 05:28
(( Thank you for your commentary, Iuthia, but I assure you it is not needed. We understand all of the rules and we will abide by them. We are simply waiting now for Nano to respond. 8-] ))
Communist Rule
22-12-2003, 05:33
OOC: Just for fairness, I'm going to add some criticism to the anti-Nano Soft side for once, Nano has got alot of OOC flack from me but this war is becoming a little silly.

Ok, firstly I would like to point out that his nation is twice the size of all your combined nations, he is claiming Near Future tech (or Future tech) and he can support a larger army with better equipment thanks to his good economy and large size.

Meanwhile, your December nations seem to be running Modern tech and with low populations you are assumed to have less resources which means you will likely have less money to put into your military and support... I admit, size doesn't matter but you have to RP the fact that you don't have the military capability that bigger nations do... you just can't make as much as we can or afford as much resources to support your war effort.

Forgetting that, you are not taking into account that he is on the defence, which means he has the advantage, you have to get your troops to his nation using realistic methods (in this case you will need Naval Units, which are very costly, a good Carrier like the Nimitz will cost about $4'000'000'000 (USD) which can carry around 70-85 aircraft...) and then protect this Navy.

Meanwhile your support line will be alot longer then his, it could take you more then a week to get more weapons and ammo so you will need lots of support ships. His supplies are only hours away at most. Breaching his land is also a hard part of an invasion, you will need to make a small "breach" onto his shores with small landing ships (each with a squad and a tank max) seeing as larger ships cannot safely get men off without a port, which will need to be taken by the smaller force you've beached.

Basically you need to get local superiourity over his troops, which means you have to have more men and firepower at a local level... he can't have all of his men in one place because that leaves him in the others.

Once you have a port you can get more men and support onto his land and then work an invasion from their, baring in mind you can't go further then you can support, support will be slow unless you can catch more ports...


If you want to be simple I would suggest only invading someone with three times more men then they have, which you will definatly don't have... I can understand why he isn't worried. His supply lines are small and plentiful, yours depend on Naval Domination along with careful tactics...

Oh, and you have to pay attnetion the to details he gives you about geography, it's his nation and he dictates what it looks like, also you have to give him chance to respond to each move from each player, so you all move in, he responds, then you all move again, he responds... doing otherwise is concidered ignorable.

I'll add links later that may help you, but I doubt they will help because they detail the fact that more wars are won with logistics... a small fact for you:

Each soldier has enough food on him to feed him for 3 days and enough ammo for one day solid fighting... then he needs support from your supply lines.

War isn't cheep lads, wish you luck, cause I think you are screwed...

Right, I'll just tick down the list.

1.There are no rules against modern attacking future or vice versa. Sure, he may have a bigger military. I don't care. Its how he uses it. And I KNOW how he'll use it.

2. I have a compulsory military service, and its my right to put as many people as I want into the military. Sure, I could stunt the economy but I'd be fine for a few years.

3. We have given him ample time and space to state the layout of his island. He has only said that its an island. Wonderful. Anyways, I can show you records where I bought Nimitz cheap. USNAVY, I believe. Had to buy them through someone, as he was apparently Anti Communist.

4. Obviously we know naval and aerial superiority must be achieved. You think we put food in a bottle and hope it floats over there? And yes, if you read all our mobilizing posts you would see we are readying for a breach.

5. Obvious.

6. A big stick isn't always as efficient as a quick little one. British ships versus Spanish ships, anyone?

7. I've studied everything he has said and used this to the minute detail. If I make a mistake and he tells me, "No there was a mountain there" (It would be misspelled.) then I would take back my move with no worries. We did not list any damage, we are waiting for his response.

8. Combining your last few lines: Logistics: The reason I have 3 people using my military instead of just me. Supply lines: In the works. This was the first day. And obviously its not cheap, that's why it helps to have allies with big pocketbooks.

P.S. While I appreciate your input, the "small nation doing big things" bit is getting old. While I realize I am new, that doesn't mean I don't have military. Allies, purchasing, you name it. A "small nation" will always be smaller. There's no closing of gaps between big and small, really. So this is going to go on forever. And lastly....stop giving hints to Nano Soft. :roll:

-J-Lo (Josef Lobonsky)
Nano soft
22-12-2003, 05:35
OOC: Just for fairness, I'm going to add some criticism to the anti-Nano Soft side for once, Nano has got alot of OOC flack from me but this war is becoming a little silly.

Ok, firstly I would like to point out that his nation is twice the size of all your combined nations, he is claiming Near Future tech (or Future tech) and he can support a larger army with better equipment thanks to his good economy and large size.

Meanwhile, your December nations seem to be running Modern tech and with low populations you are assumed to have less resources which means you will likely have less money to put into your military and support... I admit, size doesn't matter but you have to RP the fact that you don't have the military capability that bigger nations do... you just can't make as much as we can or afford as much resources to support your war effort.

Forgetting that, you are not taking into account that he is on the defence, which means he has the advantage, you have to get your troops to his nation using realistic methods (in this case you will need Naval Units, which are very costly, a good Carrier like the Nimitz will cost about $4'000'000'000 (USD) which can carry around 70-85 aircraft...) and then protect this Navy.

Meanwhile your support line will be alot longer then his, it could take you more then a week to get more weapons and ammo so you will need lots of support ships. His supplies are only hours away at most. Breaching his land is also a hard part of an invasion, you will need to make a small "breach" onto his shores with small landing ships (each with a squad and a tank max) seeing as larger ships cannot safely get men off without a port, which will need to be taken by the smaller force you've beached.

Basically you need to get local superiourity over his troops, which means you have to have more men and firepower at a local level... he can't have all of his men in one place because that leaves him in the others.

Once you have a port you can get more men and support onto his land and then work an invasion from their, baring in mind you can't go further then you can support, support will be slow unless you can catch more ports...


If you want to be simple I would suggest only invading someone with three times more men then they have, which you will definatly don't have... I can understand why he isn't worried. His supply lines are small and plentiful, yours depend on Naval Domination along with careful tactics...

Oh, and you have to pay attnetion the to details he gives you about geography, it's his nation and he dictates what it looks like, also you have to give him chance to respond to each move from each player, so you all move in, he responds, then you all move again, he responds... doing otherwise is concidered ignorable.

I'll add links later that may help you, but I doubt they will help because they detail the fact that more wars are won with logistics... a small fact for you:

Each soldier has enough food on him to feed him for 3 days and enough ammo for one day solid fighting... then he needs support from your supply lines.

War isn't cheep lads, wish you luck, cause I think you are screwed...
OOC:THANK YOU! Its about time someone notices the BS going on here!
OOC2:Zokk they will not stand and let me tell you all why! First of all Communist Rule did this, he lifted off bombers, then flew them all to Nano Soft, droped bombs and made it back all in one post. I call that godmoding. In fact just about hafl of all your post are godmoding. I suggest that you all
listen to Iuthia.
OOC to Iuthia: Well I doesn't really take hours for supplies to get around, we have a transportion system called maglev and its like a train but runs of magnets and goes up to and over 400Mph so one maglev going north to south would take only about 9 hours. :) yep things travel very fast here in Nano Soft.

IC:
10 Naval fleets split off the Stonies/Nano war and head for there target. The missile boats in the naval fleets arm and select there targets. Tey are targeting Communist Rule and C R Enterprises. They have targeted the countries and are preparing to fire. There targets will be military bases but more importantly they are targeting supply bases and where supply is at its most, also arms, tanks and aircraft factories.
*The commander of the Missile boats hits the red button.
5... 4... 3... 2... 1 LAUNCH!
All the missiles start to launch at the targets. There is 2,000 missiles heading for each of the two nations.

After while all the missiles have lifted off some boats with crans on top come over and start to reload the missile boats. In a hour or so they will be ready to fire again.

The Missile boat is the size of a Nimitz and holds 200 Non-nuclear sea based missiles.

Mean while in Nano Soft
SAM turrets fire at the incoming bombers and 20 Squads are up in the air and start to fire at the incoming bombers. Anti--missile aircraft take off, about 200 squads of them(8000 aircraft) they head for the incoming missiles and fire there AM-102 missiles. Also land based anti-missile turrets are starting to fire at the incoming missiles. The coastal defence system is up and running, it has targeted the ships and fire long-range low flying missiles, about 10,000 missiles have been launched and are heading for the incoming ships.

Mean while up in space
10,000 landing craft holding 20,000 T-98s and 1million troops are ready and are entering the earths atmosper. 5,000 will land in C R Enterprises and other 5,000 in Communist Rule. Along with them will be 6,000 Vulger-09 space craft that will target and destroy SAMs, missiles and aircraft.

OOC to C R Enterprises:
(( From http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=105467&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=60 :

Quote:
Hey, crappypants, heres a lesson:

If you are launching missles from 50 light years away, the war will be over by the time they arrive (even at lightspeed). Unless you have a suppior technology, in which case, you cannot participate due to the point that you would beat us thanks to such technology.



So, to sum it all up:
You have been
IGNORED

That is another choice, of course. Through some reading on this board, I have found that many of the higher-ranked nations choose to ignore Nano due to his large numbers of godmodes and lack of RP skill. Perhaps we should as well if he decides not to acknowledge our valid attacks? ))
Smart one I didn't launch that missile. :roll: Someone named Crappypants did and if you read a little more YOU WOULD KNOW! Also I wouldn't go calling me a godmoder whene your the one telling lies and doing all this crap that you cant even do because your TO SMALL!
Communist Rule
22-12-2003, 05:41
OOC: Just for fairness, I'm going to add some criticism to the anti-Nano Soft side for once, Nano has got alot of OOC flack from me but this war is becoming a little silly.

Ok, firstly I would like to point out that his nation is twice the size of all your combined nations, he is claiming Near Future tech (or Future tech) and he can support a larger army with better equipment thanks to his good economy and large size.

Meanwhile, your December nations seem to be running Modern tech and with low populations you are assumed to have less resources which means you will likely have less money to put into your military and support... I admit, size doesn't matter but you have to RP the fact that you don't have the military capability that bigger nations do... you just can't make as much as we can or afford as much resources to support your war effort.

Forgetting that, you are not taking into account that he is on the defence, which means he has the advantage, you have to get your troops to his nation using realistic methods (in this case you will need Naval Units, which are very costly, a good Carrier like the Nimitz will cost about $4'000'000'000 (USD) which can carry around 70-85 aircraft...) and then protect this Navy.

Meanwhile your support line will be alot longer then his, it could take you more then a week to get more weapons and ammo so you will need lots of support ships. His supplies are only hours away at most. Breaching his land is also a hard part of an invasion, you will need to make a small "breach" onto his shores with small landing ships (each with a squad and a tank max) seeing as larger ships cannot safely get men off without a port, which will need to be taken by the smaller force you've beached.

Basically you need to get local superiourity over his troops, which means you have to have more men and firepower at a local level... he can't have all of his men in one place because that leaves him in the others.

Once you have a port you can get more men and support onto his land and then work an invasion from their, baring in mind you can't go further then you can support, support will be slow unless you can catch more ports...


If you want to be simple I would suggest only invading someone with three times more men then they have, which you will definatly don't have... I can understand why he isn't worried. His supply lines are small and plentiful, yours depend on Naval Domination along with careful tactics...

Oh, and you have to pay attnetion the to details he gives you about geography, it's his nation and he dictates what it looks like, also you have to give him chance to respond to each move from each player, so you all move in, he responds, then you all move again, he responds... doing otherwise is concidered ignorable.

I'll add links later that may help you, but I doubt they will help because they detail the fact that more wars are won with logistics... a small fact for you:

Each soldier has enough food on him to feed him for 3 days and enough ammo for one day solid fighting... then he needs support from your supply lines.

War isn't cheep lads, wish you luck, cause I think you are screwed...
OOC:THANK YOU! Its about time someone notices the BS going on here!
OOC2:Zokk they will not stand and let me tell you all why! First of all Communist Rule did this, he lifted off bombers, then flew them all to Nano Soft, droped bombs and made it back all in one post. I call that godmoding. In fact just about hafl of all your post are godmoding. I suggest that you all
listen to Iuthia.
OOC to Iuthia: Well I doesn't really take hours for supplies to get around, we have a transportion system called maglev and its like a train but runs of magnets and goes up to and over 400Mph so one maglev going north to south would take only about 9 hours. :) yep things travel very fast here in Nano Soft.

IC:
10 Naval fleets split off the Stonies/Nano war and head for there target. The missile boats in the naval fleets arm and select there targets. Tey are targeting Communist Rule and C R Enterprises. They have targeted the countries and are preparing to fire. There targets will be military bases but more importantly they are targeting supply bases and where supply is at its most, also arms, tanks and aircraft factories.
*The commander of the Missile boats hits the red button.
5... 4... 3... 2... 1 LAUNCH!
All the missiles start to launch at the targets. There is 2,000 missiles heading for each of the two nations.

After while all the missiles have lifted off some boats with crans on top come over and start to reload the missile boats. In a hour or so they will be ready to fire again.

The Missile boat is the size of a Nimitz and holds 200 Non-nuclear sea based missiles.

Mean while in Nano Soft
SAM turrets fire at the incoming bombers and 20 Squads are up in the air and start to fire at the incoming bombers. Anti--missile aircraft take off, about 200 squads of them(8000 aircraft) they head for the incoming missiles and fire there AM-102 missiles. Also land based anti-missile turrets are starting to fire at the incoming missiles. The coastal defence system is up and running, it has targeted the ships and fire long-range low flying missiles, about 10,000 missiles have been launched and are heading for the incoming ships.

Mean while up in space
10,000 landing craft holding 20,000 T-98s and 1million troops are ready and are entering the earths atmosper. 5,000 will land in C R Enterprises and other 5,000 in Communist Rule. Along with them will be 6,000 Vulger-09 space craft that will target and destroy SAMs, missiles and aircraft.

OOC to C R Enterprises:
(( From http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=105467&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=60 :

Quote:
Hey, crappypants, heres a lesson:

If you are launching missles from 50 light years away, the war will be over by the time they arrive (even at lightspeed). Unless you have a suppior technology, in which case, you cannot participate due to the point that you would beat us thanks to such technology.



So, to sum it all up:
You have been
IGNORED

That is another choice, of course. Through some reading on this board, I have found that many of the higher-ranked nations choose to ignore Nano due to his large numbers of godmodes and lack of RP skill. Perhaps we should as well if he decides not to acknowledge our valid attacks? ))
Smart one I didn't launch that missile. :roll: Someone named Crappypants did and if you read a little more YOU WOULD KNOW! Also I wouldn't go calling me a godmoder whene your the one telling lies and doing all this crap that you cant even do because your TO SMALL!

As of this moment the USSCR officially ignores Nano Soft indefinitely for godmoding, constant whining, and the lack of maturity. All RP regarding Nano Soft is deleted. All actions by USSCR are withdrawn. All actions by Nano Soft are rejected.

I'm sick of arguing with a noob like you, and yes, that's what you are. You may have a lot of people and have an older nation, but you're a noob. Anyways. You didn't claim damage. My bombers didn't make it back, they're simply refueling you idiot. And stop using the word godmoding, I think you're not listening to your own advice. You're defenses wouldn't come online because they were hit with GBU28s which you did not acknowledge.. I'm done. There's just too much crap in that post. You're blacklisted, good day, stay in school, and grow up.
Nano soft
22-12-2003, 05:42
Mean while in space
Aboard a Avatar class ship
"Sir shall we fire the Ion cannons!?"

"Yes very well! Target all Power plants in Cummunist Rule and C R! FIRe! "

Cannons aboard 20 Avatar class destroyers move into postion and fire and keep on firing at power plants in the two countries.

PS When I say IOn cannon I mean like a EMP but in a form that travels you know like star wars! :wink:
22-12-2003, 05:46
THREAD CLOSED
Nano soft
22-12-2003, 05:47
OOC: Just for fairness, I'm going to add some criticism to the anti-Nano Soft side for once, Nano has got alot of OOC flack from me but this war is becoming a little silly.

Ok, firstly I would like to point out that his nation is twice the size of all your combined nations, he is claiming Near Future tech (or Future tech) and he can support a larger army with better equipment thanks to his good economy and large size.

Meanwhile, your December nations seem to be running Modern tech and with low populations you are assumed to have less resources which means you will likely have less money to put into your military and support... I admit, size doesn't matter but you have to RP the fact that you don't have the military capability that bigger nations do... you just can't make as much as we can or afford as much resources to support your war effort.

Forgetting that, you are not taking into account that he is on the defence, which means he has the advantage, you have to get your troops to his nation using realistic methods (in this case you will need Naval Units, which are very costly, a good Carrier like the Nimitz will cost about $4'000'000'000 (USD) which can carry around 70-85 aircraft...) and then protect this Navy.

Meanwhile your support line will be alot longer then his, it could take you more then a week to get more weapons and ammo so you will need lots of support ships. His supplies are only hours away at most. Breaching his land is also a hard part of an invasion, you will need to make a small "breach" onto his shores with small landing ships (each with a squad and a tank max) seeing as larger ships cannot safely get men off without a port, which will need to be taken by the smaller force you've beached.

Basically you need to get local superiourity over his troops, which means you have to have more men and firepower at a local level... he can't have all of his men in one place because that leaves him in the others.

Once you have a port you can get more men and support onto his land and then work an invasion from their, baring in mind you can't go further then you can support, support will be slow unless you can catch more ports...


If you want to be simple I would suggest only invading someone with three times more men then they have, which you will definatly don't have... I can understand why he isn't worried. His supply lines are small and plentiful, yours depend on Naval Domination along with careful tactics...

Oh, and you have to pay attnetion the to details he gives you about geography, it's his nation and he dictates what it looks like, also you have to give him chance to respond to each move from each player, so you all move in, he responds, then you all move again, he responds... doing otherwise is concidered ignorable.

I'll add links later that may help you, but I doubt they will help because they detail the fact that more wars are won with logistics... a small fact for you:

Each soldier has enough food on him to feed him for 3 days and enough ammo for one day solid fighting... then he needs support from your supply lines.

War isn't cheep lads, wish you luck, cause I think you are screwed...
OOC:THANK YOU! Its about time someone notices the BS going on here!
OOC2:Zokk they will not stand and let me tell you all why! First of all Communist Rule did this, he lifted off bombers, then flew them all to Nano Soft, droped bombs and made it back all in one post. I call that godmoding. In fact just about hafl of all your post are godmoding. I suggest that you all
listen to Iuthia.
OOC to Iuthia: Well I doesn't really take hours for supplies to get around, we have a transportion system called maglev and its like a train but runs of magnets and goes up to and over 400Mph so one maglev going north to south would take only about 9 hours. :) yep things travel very fast here in Nano Soft.

IC:
10 Naval fleets split off the Stonies/Nano war and head for there target. The missile boats in the naval fleets arm and select there targets. Tey are targeting Communist Rule and C R Enterprises. They have targeted the countries and are preparing to fire. There targets will be military bases but more importantly they are targeting supply bases and where supply is at its most, also arms, tanks and aircraft factories.
*The commander of the Missile boats hits the red button.
5... 4... 3... 2... 1 LAUNCH!
All the missiles start to launch at the targets. There is 2,000 missiles heading for each of the two nations.

After while all the missiles have lifted off some boats with crans on top come over and start to reload the missile boats. In a hour or so they will be ready to fire again.

The Missile boat is the size of a Nimitz and holds 200 Non-nuclear sea based missiles.

Mean while in Nano Soft
SAM turrets fire at the incoming bombers and 20 Squads are up in the air and start to fire at the incoming bombers. Anti--missile aircraft take off, about 200 squads of them(8000 aircraft) they head for the incoming missiles and fire there AM-102 missiles. Also land based anti-missile turrets are starting to fire at the incoming missiles. The coastal defence system is up and running, it has targeted the ships and fire long-range low flying missiles, about 10,000 missiles have been launched and are heading for the incoming ships.

Mean while up in space
10,000 landing craft holding 20,000 T-98s and 1million troops are ready and are entering the earths atmosper. 5,000 will land in C R Enterprises and other 5,000 in Communist Rule. Along with them will be 6,000 Vulger-09 space craft that will target and destroy SAMs, missiles and aircraft.

OOC to C R Enterprises:
(( From http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=105467&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=60 :

Quote:
Hey, crappypants, heres a lesson:

If you are launching missles from 50 light years away, the war will be over by the time they arrive (even at lightspeed). Unless you have a suppior technology, in which case, you cannot participate due to the point that you would beat us thanks to such technology.



So, to sum it all up:
You have been
IGNORED

That is another choice, of course. Through some reading on this board, I have found that many of the higher-ranked nations choose to ignore Nano due to his large numbers of godmodes and lack of RP skill. Perhaps we should as well if he decides not to acknowledge our valid attacks? ))
Smart one I didn't launch that missile. :roll: Someone named Crappypants did and if you read a little more YOU WOULD KNOW! Also I wouldn't go calling me a godmoder whene your the one telling lies and doing all this crap that you cant even do because your TO SMALL!

As of this moment the USSCR officially ignores Nano Soft indefinitely for godmoding, constant whining, and the lack of maturity. All RP regarding Nano Soft is deleted. All actions by USSCR are withdrawn. All actions by Nano Soft are rejected.

I'm sick of arguing with a noob like you, and yes, that's what you are. You may have a lot of people and have an older nation, but you're a noob. Anyways. You didn't claim damage. My bombers didn't make it back, they're simply refueling you idiot. And stop using the word godmoding, I think you're not listening to your own advice. You're defenses wouldn't come online because they were hit with GBU28s which you did not acknowledge.. I'm done. There's just too much crap in that post. You're blacklisted, good day, stay in school, and grow up.
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HOLLY CRAP! HA YOUR CALLING ME A GODMODER!??!You never gave me a chances to post a defence before so there it is! Now if you don't like it fine be a poor Rper and go cry to your mommy! All that was prefectly fine and was better Rp than I have seen you use! You cant just bomb me in ONE post! One post must be for send then you wait then next is bombing then you wait and so on! Not all in one! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA You are the biggest Noob/godmoder ever!

PS I will use the word godmoder as much as I want nooby. :wink:
Communist Rule
22-12-2003, 05:49
Heh. That proves my points oh-so-much. Good day, and this is the last time I look at this thread. Oh, and, to continue a joke from before.
Since you got so excited, make sure you call your mommy so she can give you a fresh pair of Huggies.
Nano soft
22-12-2003, 06:00
The president turns around in his chair and looks out the windwo. Spins around to his desk.

"What a great day, now wheres that stamp ahh here we go been while since i have seen this thing!"

He pulls out two folder labeled Communist Rule and C R Enterprises. He dabs the ignore stamp in ink and pounds it down on both of the folders.

"Ahh thats much better!"

He Goes to his nation data base and deletes the names C R Enterprises and Communist Rule and deletes them.

"Well now there is no more trace of them just, well back to the Corporate Business!"

He puts the folders in a shredder, ands shreds them.

OOC:Communist Rule grow up and get a life, if you are grown up why are you here? Shouldn't you be in college or at a bar or something? Or are you one of those "geeky" kids? You stays home every night and cant get a date. See I have a excuse, im 13 with time on my hands untill X-mas when I am able to get a memory card. :wink:
22-12-2003, 06:03
I believe since this has become one big OOC flame-fest, bubbles are not needed...

Ahem...

Nano Soft, all actions of yours are now null and void, please leave, you are waisting everyone's time, you are a n00b. Need I list more reasons? If so, I would be happy to document all infractions you have made concering the all-Holy 'GodModing' you so carelessly refer to. You keep throwing that word around like a Thai hooker. =/

Second, I believe with the resolution of this entire RP, all USSCR (And thus C R Enterprises) forces are withdrawn from the battle and placed at their pre-"engagement" (since there wasn't really a war) locations and statuses.

--Thank you.

Sincerely,
Prime Minister ( C R Enterprises ) & Minister of Defense ( USSCR )
Dmitri Filitov ( yes, I know, my siggie is IC =/)

EDIT: Oh, yeah, and nan0, concerning your last post:

I only could hope that a 13-year-old would have passed Language Arts ( aka English or Lit. depending on where you live ) before graduating to the internet. We can only hope your parents are smart enough ( which is optimistic by itself ) to know that what you really need for xmas is not a memory card, but Hooked On Phonics (copyright/trademark/etc.)

--Happy holidays.
Nano soft
22-12-2003, 06:20
Wow I should fell so hurt! I have been ignored by the biggest noob/godmoder I know! Oh wow I fell sooooo sad now! :roll:

Also english classes don't stop untill the end of high school. Also for your info there is something call typeing skilss and english skills. My english skills are fine except my typeing skills are bad.


Also here is a sample of my best Rp.

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2260037
Now I can get back to more important things then wasteing my time with some one with a named "Communist Rule", what type of name is that?
22-12-2003, 07:44
"Wow, that's a great RP example, Nano..."

Yeah, that's what I'd be telling you if I was a shit-headed n00b who actually thought typing bad equaled good RPing; which it doesn't. =D

Please, move on, 'cause we all have. Oh yeah, and in case you were wondering, I always get the last word.
Canada-Germany
22-12-2003, 10:16
My god people, shut up!

CR and the other Commie, you know how to fight a war with a bigger guy? Eliminate his advantages. If he's bigger, drop teams in, divide his forces so that you eliminate his size advantage. He has more supplies? Depend less on your own supplies and steal his so that you can deprive him of food and ammo, whilst giving yourself more. You shouldn't EVER attack a bigger guy straight on. Like I said. Insert teams, let them cause mass havoc, strike and run away. When he masses, don't stand and fight unless you have to.

Nano, My god man, these tiny nations attacked you full on. You had to fire an ION cannon at them? Bullcrap bitch, grab your massed arty, massed missile and pound them to death before they can even beach. Who cares how many cas you take? They pounding you with Jets? you've got radar, you've get less a way to go, send up MORE with dedicated ATA, Take out his Carriers whilst the planes are away. Mass a Battleship fleet, back him into a corner and blow him up.

*sigh*

Such lack of tactics.
22-12-2003, 10:57
I'm glad you didn't say that before we attacked, Canada, because you would have blown our cover. Both Josef ( Communist Rule ) and I are experienced in modern and historic battle tactics and strategies, so we do no need any lessons. Thank you for your n00b bashing tho, and have a nice day.
Free Iuthia
22-12-2003, 11:49
OOC: Hm... I withdraw the part regarding support lines, I didn't read your earlier posts so I guess I didn't know you had covered them well... though I mention logistics and support because you still have that problem and I feel you should have been informed of that weekness none the less.

Let go over this once more:

The fact he is future tech doesn't you can't declare war on him, it just means his tech level will be higher. It's something you have to take into account.

So you have complusory military... so do I, but I still have to RP a military population ration of 1.5% which is massive for a nation of my size... but wait, there's more, if your troop number is forced too high you will not have the facilities to get all of them to battle (across the sea, taking months... remember how long it took the US to deploy forces and reinforcements) also I would expect the more people you force into the military, the crappier they will get... conscripts make poor substitutes for trained soldiers.

The chances are you bought that Nimitz cheep from a nation that should know better, but it was used as an example of the cost of you Naval forces, with the cost of military equipment (Good Equipment) being so high, it will limit what you can have... along with your ludicracly high military population, I'm surpised you can afford a fleet of this size and still have home defence.

Point 4 is fair enough, I didn't read and I was going of previous posts... my mistake and I'll admit that. Still, it's needs to be said just in case.

5. Yes, it is but he's doesn't know that but IC his military would know that... I don't know everything IC but I expect my experts do.

Actually, you'd be amazed how well a big stick works, your small nippy stick is trying to directly take on a larger one... even if he reduces it to a meat grinder where he just pumps in man after man he will be able to absorb his losses, you won't... you have to be lucky everytime, he only has to be lucky once.

7... actually, after reading into this, you have it covered, but it still needed to be said because some of your allies have previously ignored this fact.

8. Yes, it isn't cheep... what allies would you be talking about? Afterall, if you are all going to war (and not just one of you) then you are all paying excessive amounts to make it happen. They will be dealing with their own costs which will limit what they can help you with.


PS - Well, it's true... small nations don't have the economy that I have, their people won't be able to pay enough tax to allow you to develope nuclear weapons or buy large fleets of new hardware, each requiring constant funding to maintain and resupply... I wouldn't mind if you did this as a hit and run or something more commando based... but you are taking on someone alot more advanced and larger then yourself in a direct manner... in all scenarios it suggest you are doomed...


Of course, this doesn't matter because Nano Soft doesn't understand how to use this knowledge or even the word "tact" or "simple" instead he must resort to stupid tech and so on... in a simple war he would win... so I feel the ignore is justifiable.
Klington
22-12-2003, 20:15
Oh, yeah Canada-Germany, that opening attack was to draw his fleet their so we can attack him a shore while he was away that way we could move into his country, you'd bbe surprised all the stuff we had tactically planned.
GaalSien
22-12-2003, 22:13
I'm glad you didn't say that before we attacked, Canada, because you would have blown our cover. Both Josef ( Communist Rule ) and I are experienced in modern and historic battle tactics and strategies, so we do no need any lessons. Thank you for your n00b bashing tho, and have a nice day.

I think a lot of people kinda noticed that ;).
Canada-Germany
23-12-2003, 04:28
Oh, yeah Canada-Germany, that opening attack was to draw his fleet their so we can attack him a shore while he was away that way we could move into his country, you'd bbe surprised all the stuff we had tactically planned.

Then why end it? If you had it all planned out, just ignore his noobing and keep on going.
Klington
23-12-2003, 06:25
I would but my allies are done, but maybe I can get um back.
23-12-2003, 06:42
Thanks for your enthusiasm, Canada-Germany & Klington, but if you didn't read a post of mine a few back:

... I believe with the resolution of this entire RP, all USSCR (And thus C R Enterprises) forces are withdrawn from the battle and placed at their pre-"engagement" (since there wasn't really a war) locations and statuses.


--Thanks and happy holidays.
Canada-Germany
23-12-2003, 19:12
Thanks for your enthusiasm, Canada-Germany & Klington, but if you didn't read a post of mine a few back:

... I believe with the resolution of this entire RP, all USSCR (And thus C R Enterprises) forces are withdrawn from the battle and placed at their pre-"engagement" (since there wasn't really a war) locations and statuses.


--Thanks and happy holidays.

Hmm, anyone else feel that there should be a sign called

"The management" hanging from that post? lol.
Klington
23-12-2003, 20:35
We would of kicked Nano Soft's a**, he was already at war with the stonies, one war with us and he would of fell off his high horse, if you know what I mean.
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imported_Comdidia
24-12-2003, 00:11
We would of kicked Nano Soft's a**, he was already at war with the stonies, one war with us and he would of fell off his high horse, if you know what I mean.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
:twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: Yep you probally would have done that cant fight two wars at once to well. (considering he has a major force at stonies.)