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New weapon invention.

20-12-2003, 05:19
Anti-matter bombs, able to do 500% more damage than nucular bombs. Conveting mass into gamma energy based on einsteins E=MC^2 formula.
Communist Rule
20-12-2003, 05:21
Heh. Explain how a goddamn nuclear bomb even works. Let's start with, oh, Teller-Urlam?
Cartoria
20-12-2003, 05:22
lol. sorry dude but your about the size of a map. tiny.
20-12-2003, 05:24
It is not a nucular bomb, its a mini-antimatter bomb. . .
which is the abscence of mass or negative space, when coming into contact with normal matter it add its negative with the normal matters positive givng energy equil of that to MC^2, and it has 3 grams of mass,
3C^2 (c= speed of light)
and cince when do countries have to be big to invent stuff?
Kanuckistan
20-12-2003, 05:27
Graviton bombs, able to do 50% more damage than nucular bombs with 75% less accuracy.
THe very first antimatter weapon. conveting mass into gamma energy based on einsteins E=MC^2 formula.
10 units in excistance

Aside from the fact that you're a tiny, day-old nation, how does the payload make the weapon inherently lass acurate?

And while we're at it, the description would be for a gamma ray pulse bomb.
Dontgonearthere
20-12-2003, 05:29
First Anti-matter weapon
Really? I suppose our Amatter missiles, drives and bombs dont count then...
Oh well...just a bit of advice:
Its not wise to post anything to do with the following until you have a population of at least 100 million:
Sale of weapons
Development of weapons
Weapons
Your army
War (Except, possibly, for support of a war, IE: Supplies/travel rights)
20-12-2003, 05:29
nooo. . . it would be for an antimatter bomb, and what does nation size have to do with inventions. . .
20-12-2003, 05:30
First Anti-matter weapon
Really? I suppose our Amatter missiles, drives and bombs dont count then...
Oh well...just a bit of advice:
Its not wise to post anything to do with the following until you have a population of at least 100 million:
Sale of weapons
Development of weapons
Weapons
Your army
War (Except, possibly, for support of a war, IE: Supplies/travel rights)
Thank you for your advice, our scientists will withdraw the invention and wil not make any more anouncements about weapons for a few years.
Kanuckistan
20-12-2003, 05:33
It is not a nucular bomb, its a mini-antimatter bomb. . .
which is the abscence of mass or negative space, when coming into contact with normal matter it add its negative with the normal matters positive givng energy equil of that to MC^2, and it has 3 grams of mass,
3C^2 (c= speed of light)
and cince when do countries have to be big to invent stuff?

Anti-matter has nothing to do with an absence of mass or negative space, it's just matter with the charges reversed.
20-12-2003, 05:34
UR ONE DAY OLD! In real time, thats about 5 months. Is impossable for a nation that young to have antimatter technology. Now go back to your crib and get some sleep.
20-12-2003, 05:46
Imagine a hot metal sheet in a coin factory ('energy'). When you stamp out a coin from a metal sheet, you are left with a coin and a hole in the sheet.You could call this hole an "anticoin".

This is similar to what happens when energy transforms into matter. Many experiments have shown that you can only produce a pair of particle and its mirror image, called 'antiparticle', at the same time. Nobody has ever observed the production of only particles, or only antiparticles.

That example also shows another feature observed with particles and antiparticles. To create them, it takes energy, and when you bring them back together ('annihilation', because they disappear into a flash of energy), this energy is released. It is like putting the coin back into the hole, leaving the original metal sheet.
Coolet
20-12-2003, 05:50
:lol: LOL!
Great Mateo
20-12-2003, 05:53
Uh, no. The hole is just a gap in a piece of metal. E=MC^2 is based on matter being converted to energy in various conditions, such as those found in a fusion reactor.

Also, antimatter isn't just the absence of matter. It's matter with the opposite charges; when the two come into contact they distenegrate each other. So mind explaining how you contained the anti-matter for your weapon?

Also, size, and even more importantly, age, plays a huge factor in NS. As you're not even a day old, and you're incredibly tiny, you have not had the time, nor have you had the spare resources needed, to develop a weapon like this.
Kanuckistan
20-12-2003, 05:55
if energy is a sheet of metal. and you take a coin out of the metal the coin is matter and the hole is antimatter.
(excuse the overly simple analygy)

It is also an incorrect analogy. For starters, if it were right, combining matter with anti-matter would result in mutual annialation, but produce nothing, rather than energy and sub-atonic particle radiation like gamma rays.

An anti-proton, for example, is just a negativly charged proton; it retains all it's other properties, including mass.
20-12-2003, 05:55
I AM WITHDRAWING THE NOTION.
I apologize for my assumptions. . . I am a n00b. ..
Johnistan
20-12-2003, 05:56
What the fuck? Anti-Matter just has the opposite charge of matter.
20-12-2003, 06:00
The history of antimatter begins with a young physicist named Paul Dirac and the strange implications of a mathematical equation...

It was the beginning of the 20th century, an exciting time when the very foundations of physics were shaken by the appearance of two important new theories: relativity and quantum mechanics.

In 1905 Albert Einstein unveiled his theory of Special Relativity, explaining the relationship between space and time, and between energy and mass in his famous equation E=mc2. Meanwhile experiments had revealed that light sometimes behaved as a wave, but other times behaved as if it were a stream of tiny particles. Max Planck proposed that each light wave must come in a little packet, which he called a "quantum": this way light was not just a wave or just a particle, but a bit of both.

By the 1920s, physicists were trying to apply the same concept to the atom and its constituents, and by the end of the decade Erwin Schrodinger and Werner Heisenberg had invented the new quantum theory of physics. The only problem now was that quantum theory was not relativistic - meaning the quantum description worked only for particles moving slowly, and not for those at high (or "relativistic") velocity, close to the speed of light.

In 1928, Paul Dirac solved the problem: he wrote down an equation, which combined quantum theory and special relativity, to describe the behaviour of the electron. Dirac's equation won him a Nobel Prize in 1933, but also posed another problem: just as the equation x2=4 can have two possible solutions (x=2 OR x=-2), so Dirac's equation could have two solutions, one for an electron with positive energy, and one for an electron with negative energy. But in classical physics (and common sense!), the energy of a particle must always be a positive number!

Dirac interpreted this to mean that for every particle that exists there is a corresponding antiparticle, exactly matching the particle but with opposite charge. For the electron, for instance, there should be an "antielectron" identical in every way but with a positive electric charge. In his Nobel Lecture, Dirac speculated on the existence of a completely new Universe made out of antimatter!

From 1930, the hunt for the mysterious antiparticles began...
Earlier in the century, Victor Hess (Nobel Prizewinner in 1936) had discovered a natural source of high energy particles: cosmic rays. Cosmic rays are very high energy particles that come from outer space and as they hit the Earth's atmosphere they produce huge showers of lower energy particles that have proved very useful to physicists.

In 1932 Carl Anderson, a young professor at the California Institute of Technology, was studying showers of cosmic particles in a cloud chamber and saw a track left by "something positively charged, and with the same mass as an electron". After nearly one year of effort and observation, he decided the tracks were actually antielectrons, each produced alongside an electron from the impact of cosmic rays in the cloud chamber. He called the antielectron a "positron", for its positive charge. Confirmed soon after by Occhialini and Blackett, the discovery gave Anderson the Nobel Prize in 1936 and proved the existence of antiparticles as predicted by Dirac.

For many years to come, cosmic rays remained the only source of high energy particles. A steady stream of discoveries was made but for the next sought-after antiparticle, the antiproton (antipartner of the proton and much heavier than the positron), physicists had to wait another 22 years...

The search for antiprotons heated up in the 1940s and 1950s, as laboratory experiments reached ever higher energies...

In 1930, Ernest Lawrence (Nobel Prizewinner in 1939) had invented the cyclotron, a machine that eventually could accelerate a particle like a proton up to an energy of a few tens of MeV. Initially driven by the effort to discover the antiproton, the accelerator era had begun, and with it the new science of "High Energy Physics" was born.

It was Lawrence that, in 1954, built the Bevatron at Berkeley, California (BeV, at the time, was what we now call GeV). The Bevatron could collide two protons together at an energy of 6.2 GeV, expected to be the optimum for producing antiprotons. Meanwhile a team of physicists, headed by Emilio Segre', designed and built a special detector to see the antiprotons.

In October 1955 the big news hit the front page of the New York Times: "New Atom Particle Found; Termed a Negative Proton". With the discovery of the antiproton, Segre' and his group of collaborators (O. Chamberlain, C. Wiegand and T. Ypsilantis) had succeeded in a further proof of the essential symmetry of nature, between matter and antimatter.

Segre' and Chamberlain were awarded the Nobel Prize in 1959. Only a year later, a second team working at the Bevatron (B. Cork, O. Piccione, W. Wenzel and G. Lambertson) announced the discovery of the antineutron.

By now, all three particles that make up atoms (electrons, protons and neutrons) were know to each have an antiparticle. So if particles, bound together in atoms, are the basic units of matter, it is natural to think that antiparticles, bound together in antiatoms, are the basic units of antimatter.

But are matter and antimatter exactly equal and opposite, or symmetric, as Dirac had implied? The next important step was to test this symmetry . Physicists wanted to know: how do subatomic antiparticles behave when they come together? Would an antiproton and an antineutron stick together to form an antinucleus, just as protons and neutrons stick together to form an atom's nucleus?

The answer to the antinuclei question was found in 1965 with the observation of the antideuteron, a nucleus of antimatter made out of an antiproton plus an antineutron (while a deuteron, the nucleus of the deuterium atom, is made of a proton plus a neutron). The goal was simultaneously achieved by two teams of physicists, one led by Antonino Zichichi, using the Proton Synchrotron at CERN, and the other led by Leon Lederman, using the Alternating Gradient Synchrotron (AGS) accelerator at the Brookhaven National Laboratory, New York.

After making antinuclei, naturally the next question was: can antielectrons stick to antinuclei to make antiatoms?

In fact the answer was only revealed quite recently, thanks to a very special machine, unique to CERN, the Low Energy Antiproton Ring (LEAR). Contrary to an accelerator, LEAR actually "slowed down" antiprotons. Physicists could then try to force a positron (or antielectron) to stick to an antiproton, making an antihydrogen atom, a real antimatter atom.

Towards the end of 1995, the first such antiatoms were produced at CERN by a team of German and Italian physicists. Although only 9 antiatoms were made, the news was so thrilling that it made the front page of many of the world's newspapers.

The achievement suggested that the antihydrogen atom could play a role in the study of the antiworld similar to that played by the hydrogen atom in over more than a century of scientific history. Hydrogen makes up three quarters of our universe, and much of what we know about the cosmos has been discovered by studying ordinary hydrogen.

But does antihydrogen behave exactly like ordinary hydrogen ? To answer this question CERN decided to build a new experimental facility: the Antiproton Decelerator (AD).
20-12-2003, 06:02
Briefing room

If you could convert all of the energy contained in 1 kg of sugar, or 1 kg of water, or 1 kg of any other stuff, you could drive a car for about 100,000 years without stopping!

Why? Albert Einstein, in 1905, wrote down the famous equation E=mc2. It says that mass is a very concentrated form of energy.

Energy is like the 'money' of nature; it comes in two different currencies, and with an enormous exchange rate - the square of the speed of light .

1 kg corresponds to 25,000,000,000 kWh of energy; 1 gr would be enough to supply energy to a medium-sized town for a whole day!

Big meteorites traverse our solar system with a typical speed of about 30 km/sec. If such a meteorite enters the Earth's atmosphere, its energy of movement is converted into heat, reaching 100,000 Co or more and melting most of its material ('shooting star').

We do not have the technology to make a space ship go at the speed of light (300,000 km/sec), but it is possible - using accelerators at CERN - to make single particles (like a proton, the nucleus of a hydrogen atom) go that fast.

If a particle moving with this speed hits a block of material, its energy is also transformed, producing 'temperatures' of 10,000,000,000,000 Co or more. Under these extreme circumstances, the energy set free in the collision will transform into matter.

In a coin factory, hot metal is pressed into coins. They only come in specific sizes and values, as 1p, 2p, 5p, 10p, 50p and 1 pound.

Similarly, nature does not allow energy to be converted into just any kind of matter. Nature has provided us with 'moulds', corresponding to a precisely defined amount of energy, as well as having some other particular properties.

These moulds are analogous to particles, the most important ones in our daily lives being the proton, the neutron and the electron. They have very precisely defined properties, such as their mass, their electric charge or the way they interact with other particles.
Coolet
20-12-2003, 06:02
HOLY CRAP!!


*begins to read and tries to understand*
20-12-2003, 06:02
Imagine a hot metal sheet in a coin factory ('energy'). When you stamp out a coin from a metal sheet, you are left with a coin and a hole in the sheet.You could call this hole an "anticoin".

This is similar to what happens when energy transforms into matter. Many experiments have shown that you can only produce a pair of particle and its mirror image, called 'antiparticle', at the same time. Nobody has ever observed the production of only particles, or only antiparticles.

That example also shows another feature observed with particles and antiparticles. To create them, it takes energy, and when you bring them back together ('annihilation', because they disappear into a flash of energy), this energy is released. It is like putting the coin back into the hole, leaving the original metal sheet.
20-12-2003, 06:02
everything you could possibly want to know about antimatter. now plz STFU!
20-12-2003, 06:04
Hey, does anyone know how to spell since?
Also where does the coin go once you take it out? anyone that has been through chemistry I knows that matter cannot be destroyed or created. Also gamma particles along with alpha and beta particles are all forms of radiation one being a positron the other a helium neucleus and gamma being strictly a form of highly penetrating, highly dangerous form of energy able to penetrate a four inch thick block of lead, this being detected by a geiger meter developed by some crazy scientists whos chromosomes are probably fried by now. gamma radiation is not a particle and cannot be created it is merely a form of energy contained in radioactive material. fusion bombs do not emit radiation after their blast, allowing the "bomber" to clean up their mess soon after they have wiped out the nation without the fear of being poisioned by radiation. fusion bombs are much cleaner than dirty fission bombs. consider creating cold fusion for your country it may help the economy just a little by saving billions of dollars in energy expenses. :shock:
20-12-2003, 06:05
read my last 4 posts. . .
20-12-2003, 06:10
Hey, does anyone know how to spell since?
Also where does the coin go once you take it out? anyone that has been through chemistry I knows that matter cannot be destroyed or created. Also gamma particles along with alpha and beta particles are all forms of radiation one being a positron the other a helium neucleus and gamma being strictly a form of highly penetrating, highly dangerous form of energy able to penetrate a four inch thick block of lead, this being detected by a geiger meter developed by some crazy scientists whos chromosomes are probably fried by now. gamma radiation is not a particle and cannot be created it is merely a form of energy contained in radioactive material. fusion bombs do not emit radiation after their blast, allowing the "bomber" to clean up their mess soon after they have wiped out the nation without the fear of being poisioned by radiation. fusion bombs are much cleaner than dirty fission bombs. consider creating cold fusion for your country it may help the economy just a little by saving billions of dollars in energy expenses. :shock:

Energy and matter cannot be created/destroyed by normal means. As with most things, there are exceptions. Nuclear reactions are an example of one of these exceptions. The conversion of matter to energy in a nuclear reaction is the reason they are so powerful - a relatively small amount of matter can become a great amount of energy.
Slovata
20-12-2003, 06:11
Pardon me for interupting this discussion, but might I make a comment that instead of bashing a nation for its punitive size larger nations should encourage the development of new nations. I do not claim to be an expert in the fields of physics or military matters, and it is not my intention to offend anyone (that's why the UN labels my country as an Inoffensive Centrist Democracy).
20-12-2003, 06:12
Creating antimatter:
Antiparticles have to be created from energy (remember: E = mc2). This energy is obtained with protons that have been previously accelerated in the PS. These protons are smashed into a block of metal, called a target. We use Copper or Iridium targets mainly because they are easy to cool (but a piece of English beef would serve the same purpose - it would just roast very quickly and is rather messy).

Then, the abrupt stopping of such energetic particles releases a huge amount of energy into a small volume, heating it up to such temperatures that matter-antimatter particles are spontaneously created

In about one collision out of a million, an antiproton-proton pair is formed. But given the fact that about 10 trillion protons hit the target (about once per minute), this still makes a good 10 million antiprotons heading towards the AD.

The newly created antiprotons behave like a bunch of wild kids; they are produced almost at the speed of light, but not all of them have exactly the same energy (this is called "energy spread"). Moreover, they run randomly in all directions, also trying to break out 'sideways' ("transverse oscillations"). Bending and focussing magnets make sure they stay on the right track, in the middle of the vacuum pipe, while they begin to race around in the ring.

At each turn, the strong electric fields inside the radio-frequency cavities begin to decelerate the antiprotons. Unfortunately, this deceleration increases the size of their transverse oscillations: if nothing is done to cure that, all antiprotons are lost when they eventually collide with the vacuum pipe.

To avoid that, two methods have been invented: 'stochastic' and 'electron cooling'. Stochastic (or 'random') cooling works best at high speeds (around the speed of light, c), and electron cooling works better at low speed (still fast, but only 10-30 % of c). Their goal is to decrease energy spread and transverse oscillations of the antiproton beam.

Finally, when the antiparticles speed is down to about 10% of the speed of light, the antiprotons squeezed group (called a "bunch") is ready to be ejected. One "deceleration cycle" is over: it has lasted about one minute.

A strong 'kicker' magnet is fired in less than a millionth of a second, and at the next turn, all antiprotons are following a new path, which leads them into the beam pipes of the extraction line. There, additional dipole and quadrupole magnets steer the beam into one of the three experiments.
20-12-2003, 06:12
It's rather odd that such a recently-founded nation would have developed an antimatter bomb, however.

EDIT: And if I recall, a goodly amount of modern physicists are dismissing e=mc^2 as incorrect.
20-12-2003, 06:14
we put a great deal of emphasis on military science development.
Jangle Jangle Ridge
20-12-2003, 06:14
As everyone has said, your one day old. You can't have this technology. But thanks for the idea, I cherish the complete rights and patents for this item, along with my improvements. Anyway, I already had a similiar weapons. *looks in the mirror* Oh, who's bad? You bad!
20-12-2003, 06:15
Yes, but you have a "good" economy that appears to be based mostly on pizza delivery.

While if you are lucky I may give your country a grant to develop a formula for the best number of toppings, I would not trust you with WMDs.
20-12-2003, 06:15
It's rather odd that such a recently-founded nation would have developed an antimatter bomb, however.

EDIT: And if I recall, a goodly amount of modern physicists are dismissing e=mc^2 as incorrect.
E=mc^2 is incorrect in a non-relativistic situation. in which case the equation [e=(mv^2)/2] becomes thee correct equation
20-12-2003, 06:15
Very nice work white rose... whether you copy and pasted that or typed it all doesnt matter to me its all very good. one thing you failed to mention is that we have the technoligy to create fusion in order to use hydrogen as a viable fuel source, we cannot use it to completely power equipment because in order to produce a fusion reaction one must achieve temperatures similar to those found on the surface of the sun. The advantages are outweighed by the disadvantages. it takes too much energy to start a fusion reaction and once it has started, the only way we can stop it is to pull the power plug on the reaction. only when scientists have perfected cold fusion (creating a fusion reaction of hydrogen nuclei at room temperature) can we use it to power vehicles of any kind.
20-12-2003, 06:16
It's rather odd that such a recently-founded nation would have developed an antimatter bomb, however.

EDIT: And if I recall, a goodly amount of modern physicists are dismissing e=mc^2 as incorrect.
E=mc^2 is incorrect in a non-relativistic situation. in which case the equation [e=(mv^2)/2] becomes thee correct equation

Ah. This is where my knowledge of physics dwindles. However, if my pizza doesn't arrive in 30 minutes, I'm asking for a refund!

...Just kidding, just make sure it's not cold, mmkay?
20-12-2003, 06:19
I didnt choose that pizza thing, and I think it is a mockery of my intelect. . .
Slovata
20-12-2003, 06:21
A pizza delivery based economy? Interesting. I won't say anything because my economy isn't any better. I like to think we make most of our income through our thriving arms market.
20-12-2003, 06:31
i understand where your coming from but NS is an online community that attempts to mirror the real world. A young nation, in the real world, would have neither the money nor the time to invent anti-matter weapons. They would be more interested in developing an Economy and foreign relations. Don't get me wrong, you are obviously "one who is wise in the ways of science", but let's try concentrating on developing your nation before your military. As for your violent opposition, settle down its really not that important. :?
20-12-2003, 06:37
anyway im not exactly the posterchild of NS. I have better things to do with my life than spend hours in Forums discussing asinine topics, like...live a real life. Dont get me wrong this site is really cool but seriously is there nothing better to do with one's life. I have seen some nations with like 1.68 billion people. Thats a crap load of citizens. Ive been playn for about a month and a half to 2 months and i only have 188 million...how long have these guys been playn.
20-12-2003, 06:41
my favorite economy is one that is based entirely on 14 year old boys selling lemonade
20-12-2003, 06:47
some of these economies are just silly. . .
Doujin
20-12-2003, 06:50
The WhiteRose, nice copy and pasting

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http://livefromcern.web.cern.ch/livefromcern/antimatter/factory/AM-factory03.html
20-12-2003, 06:56
whats wrong with copy pasting?
20-12-2003, 06:57
I think It was fairly obvios I copy pasted, noone could type as fast as I did. . .
20-12-2003, 09:22
Anti-matter bombs, able to do 500% more damage than nucular bombs. Conveting mass into gamma energy based on einsteins E=MC^2 formula.

Sounds very interesting. Listen, telegram me. This is a very touchy issue, and we will feel more comfortable discussing this in private.
Kanuckistan
21-12-2003, 05:44
Interesting, much of which I already knew, tho I see nothing to colaborate your asertion that the anti-particles have anything to do with an absence of mass or negative space.


And Happy Crap, the ony reason we don't have commercial fusion iRL is simply because we don't know how to make a reactor that produces more energy than it takes to operate.


EDIT:
Oh, and as for antimatter weapons, the form of energy released isn't too conductive to a WMD, and production cost in uneconomical(1 kilo of antimatter will net you upwards of 45 megatons worth of energy; much cheaper to do it with nukes).
The Segovene
21-12-2003, 05:54
anyone that has been through chemistry I knows that matter cannot be destroyed or created.

Under normal circumstances, this is true. There are some exceptions, however.

White Rose, have you ever played a game called Metal Marines? Aside from "Metal Marines" (giant bipedal mech-like vehicles) as your primary units, Anti Matter Missiles are your main offensive weapons and resulted in destroying 75% or so of the Earth's Surface during the short but terrible Anti-Matter War.
Indra Prime
21-12-2003, 06:06
Actually to give things a different perspective, your definition of what normal matter and antimatter is, is slightly off. It would take way to long to explain the actual physics involved.

(I am a theoretical Physicist, just FYI)
imported_Christoniac
22-12-2003, 01:34
nooo. . . it would be for an antimatter bomb, and what does nation size have to do with inventions. . .
Well you could think of the idea but you couldn't make it because you do not have enough funds to build one.
Indra Prime
22-12-2003, 01:36
We have been pouring more than 50% of our budget into R&D and only now have we been able to successfully devised a working antimatter reactor/ weapon. Without the assistance of much larger nations it will be implausible that your nation can create such powerful weapons.
Jangle Jangle Ridge
23-12-2003, 01:53
Like I said, I have full rights on this baby, cause I stole it. Aren't I evil?
Chellis
23-12-2003, 02:13
Whiterose, in Nationstates, there is a careful balance of power, the older bigger nations have more potential, and usually exploit it, than newer smaller ones. Thats not to say a 300m nation couldnt beat a 500m nation with a basketcase economy, or things like that, but older generally means stronger. To develop something that can destroy something roughly the size of a 105,000 mile sphere, completely erupts that balance. Furthermore, people dispute your weapon as being viable, and given the information, if well established nations cannot do something of this magnitude, a small nation that has been around for such a small time couldnt possibly contruct the facilities, get the scientists, etc, to make such a weapon, especially without the research behind it.

I will, as I am sure others will, ignore you if you choose to keep this weapon.
Indra Prime
23-12-2003, 05:40
hear, hear!!!
23-12-2003, 05:46
My only question, and objection to the fact that the older countries threaten to ignore the creator of this weapon is:

"How do you know this country was not specifically created by those who discovered some kind of missing 'key' to making this sort of weapon?"

.....but I do agree with most of what was said about this weapon's creation being highly unlikely and unbalancing.
Austar Union
23-12-2003, 06:04
If somebody could actually develop an anti-matter bomb, it would be very powerful. And highly uncontrollable. Actually, the warhead if it were anti-matter, it would be physically impossible to deliver it. Any matter that comes in contact with anti-matter immediatly discontinues existing.

In theory anyway...its never been done before.
Henceland Omega
23-12-2003, 08:18
::Holy Emperor Corran's head starts spinning::

Corran: I think I've gone cross-eyed...
Austar Union
23-12-2003, 08:19
lol!
23-12-2003, 17:12
can i have 50 of those cool sounding anticoins i will give u 3 hippos for them
24-12-2003, 01:38
This is what you get when politicians discuss physics... :roll:

Austar Union, I could most likely build an electronic containment field using the materials in my presidential palace, and my security is rather tight, my guards don't let anything even possibly dangerous anywhere near me.

Not only that, but a delivery system for an antimatter warhead would be equaly unsophisticated. Far less complex than a standard Hydrogen bomb at least.

An antimatter weapon would not be merely ten times as effective as a nuclear weapon. An antimatter warhead could inflict THOUSANDS of times as damage as a fussion warhead of a similar mass.

The problems of an antimatter weapon are in it's production.

It has been determined that the most efficient way to produce antimatter is to fire a high power laser at a target consisting mostly of neutrons, surrounded by a series of charged plates. Parts of the target will separate into antimatter.

The problem is the incredible energy that must be focused onto the target.

Two of my three scientists are working on this problem (Hey, don't laugh,my nation was only formed yesterday.)
Addamous
24-12-2003, 05:52
WhiteRose, I have to admit, you can research really good. Now you just have to figure out how to make your population at least 50 times the amount that it is. Maybe you should have waited so it doesn't look like so much of a god-mod.
24-12-2003, 08:25
How could that be God-moding? I mean based on what he said if the anti-matter bomb detnated it would basiclly "dissintegrate" everything in it's blast area, but if an other nation could track these bombs or other carriers and fire a much smaller missle at this bomb the resulting blasts would counter act each other and force the antimatter weapon to destroy itself and the extra energy would disperse. I am probably wrong in the whole physics of that statement but o well. Point being if two anti-matter weapons came into contact with each other they would cancel each other out, kinda like noise cancellation. I dont care if he is only one day old he still has 5 million people which is plenty to have enough money and people to devolp such technology, plus it is no brand new idea.
Ares Industries
24-12-2003, 08:38
Ah, one question. You're reasoning seems sound from my viewpoint(I lack any knowledge of physics, only 14) but I've noticed one flaw in your logic. Your method of creating anti-matter relies on accelerating a partice to the speed of light. Theoretically, to be achieved, the speed of light requires infinite acceleraton and infinite energy.
Skibereen
24-12-2003, 08:46
I might be wrong here too, but the high gamma output sounds just like the good old Neutron Bomb, love that thing.
24-12-2003, 08:53
anti
24-12-2003, 08:56
Anti Matter bom

3,000
26-12-2003, 02:55
:roll:

Agrozeth, and Ares Industries are both incorect.

Agrozeth - If you detonated two antimatter bombs next to eachother, the result would be the same as detonating two nuclear bombs next to eachother, or even two conventional bombs: the energy released doubles, although the blast radius remains aproximately the same.

Ares Industries - You can use either a laser or a high velocity particle emiter; no need to go faster than light.

(I believe the U.S. has a few nanograms of antimatter acumulated, which were produced using the laser method.)

Perhaps you didn't understand what I meant when I said, "An antimatter warhead could inflict THOUSANDS of times as damage as a fussion warhead of a similar mass."

A moderately large antimatter bomb could completely anihilate a moderately large country (France, Greenland, Germany, anything in that size range). And leave a good sized crater in it's place.

It's not god-moding, it's just an incredibly powerful technology.

However, it's incredibly difficult to produce en' mass. (Like I said, the U.S. has only a few nanograms.)

Lord #1

(Note: the stuff in parenthasees isn't roleplay - it's from real life.)
Coolet
27-12-2003, 08:38
DAMN! that's really scary to think that is possible.....EEEkkk....

-Premier of Coolet