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Bigmenistani vessels strike blockade without provocation. - Page 2

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31-12-2003, 14:52
The smoke cleared in the port of Ut Yara. The scene was devastation. Flames still licked out the half sunk warships. No matter what technology any nation has it would have been impossible to destroy so many incoming missiles. Private vessels and military vessels alike combed the water and burning wrecks looking for survivors, most picked up were burnt dead bodies.

Within the port itself many buildings were also destroyed in the cruise missile attack. The Fisheries HQ was destroyed as well as the Port AO.
Several buildings were destroyed near the embassy complex. The embassy of GeForce4 was totally destroyed, 38 bodies were removed. Also the embassy of Guerrillistan was also severely damaged, 14 bodies were removed from the rubble.

Terristani army units have redoubled thier efforts. Long range GLCM on the other side of Terristan have begun firing.
McLeod03
31-12-2003, 15:56
OOC: Terristan - Bigmeniwhatever starte dposting hug enumbers of missiles. Not me.

AL-52s are modified B-52 airframes outfitted to mount ABL turrets on the forward nose.
Autonomous City-states
31-12-2003, 16:17
OOC: I agree. Bigmenistan started with the number wanking.

IC: Federation Aerospace Forces intel personnel on board the network of manned space surveillance platforms begin battle damage assessments of both sides. The Secretary-General's office is the first to be given their reports. The McLeod King's support staff is the second.
SilveryMinnow
31-12-2003, 17:32
I agree that Autonomous-CityStates should be considered the impartial Referee of this RP. He is a very accomplished RP player in the forum and has had more experience.

I post this in case there was no agreement, and a vote would be taken.
31-12-2003, 17:33
i agree.
Autonomous City-states
31-12-2003, 17:43
OOC: In the event of a disagreement, I would be honored to act as arbiter. I'll be keeping an eye on things as closely as possible.

I do have a question, though... with all the cruise missiles being fired (especially those launched by Bigmenistan after their resupply vessels were destroyed), shouldn't we be seeing reloading issues pretty fast?
31-12-2003, 17:58
Ut Yara port.


*Uni and his friends ran through the streets. School had finished early due to the missile attacks on the port and they were off to see the ships in the port. Black smoke could be seen in the distance and thunder could be heard in the distance and little black specks could be seen in the sky.*

*20 BEAR bombers flew high over Ut Yara, they were on their way to continue the attack on the blockading fleet, the first wave many more aircraft. Armed with cruise missiles, they could launch within safe airspace of Terristan.*

In the Terristan HQ officers were meeting with those from Guerrillistan who were to offer assistance in attacking the illegal blockade.
Public opinion was strongly for the action against McLeod. It was clear the enemy had intentions from the start to attack Terristan and its allies.

Supplies were still coming in from Guerrillistan, the crumbling blockade had no chance to cover the 3km channel between the two allies.
SilveryMinnow
31-12-2003, 17:59
Would also like to point out logistic descrepancies. Distance between countries, ammo carried, supply lines. Terristan is defending homeland. Budget cost for operations.
Autonomous City-states
31-12-2003, 18:18
OOC: At this point, we need Bigmenistan to respond to McLeod03's counterattack.
McLeod03
31-12-2003, 18:19
Supplies were still coming in from Guerrillistan, the crumbling blockade had no chance to cover the 3km channel between the two allies.

It was twenty kms according to him. Make your mind up.
31-12-2003, 19:14
Supplies were still coming in from Guerrillistan, the crumbling blockade had no chance to cover the 3km channel between the two allies.

It was twenty kms according to him. Make your mind up.

my mistake, sorry. Make it twenty according to first post.
31-12-2003, 19:15
Terristan offers McLeod a cease fire, this will enable you to move your blockade and end further bloodshed.

Is this really worth a few terror attacks in a country that wanted the attacks done in the first place?
Autonomous City-states
31-12-2003, 19:44
Secretary-General Brown released a statement regarding the McLeod-Terristan standoff today.

"I support a peaceful resolution to this conflict, as enough lives have been lost on either side to make their point made. If the participating nations are willing, I offer that the Federation serve as a ceasefire arbiter and oversee the peaceful withdrawal of each deployed force to its respective home country.

"To that effect, the Tiamat Battle Group has been ordered to head for Terristani waters by international sea lanes in the event our offer is accepted."

Both the Terristani and McLeodian governments are provided with the Tiamat Battle Group's planned route to avoid any accidental attacks.
31-12-2003, 20:39
OOC: I agree. Bigmenistan started with the number wanking.

IC: Federation Aerospace Forces intel personnel on board the network of manned space surveillance platforms begin battle damage assessments of both sides. The Secretary-General's office is the first to be given their reports. The McLeod King's support staff is the second.

WTF? didn't you read the number of ships that I attacked with? Even half of them would be enough to fire 1,000 cruise missiles.
31-12-2003, 20:40
OOC: At this point, we need Bigmenistan to respond to McLeod03's counterattack.

He just destroyed what? 300 something AMRAAMs with lasers? I don't respond to god-modding.
Autonomous City-states
31-12-2003, 20:43
OOC: At this point, we need Bigmenistan to respond to McLeod03's counterattack.

He just destroyed what? 300 something AMRAAMs with lasers? I don't respond to god-modding.

Actually, the Airborne Laser project is in its test flight stages IRL... and given the NS penchant for putting present-day experimental systems into service, this is not a stretch. Unless you want the rest of the players to move on without you (which they seem prepared to do), I suggest that you give an appropriate response.
31-12-2003, 20:48
I got permission from both McLeod03 AND Terristan, I don't think Terristan agrees.

Besides I haven't taken any side, I'm playing peacekeeper. (unless attacked.)

i agree, nanakland shouldn't be allowed in.

You are just saying that because if I came in, you'd see my region fighting, too - something you couldn't handle. Oh. And it's Nanakaland.
31-12-2003, 21:09
I got permission from both McLeod03 AND Terristan, I don't think Terristan agrees.

Besides I haven't taken any side, I'm playing peacekeeper. (unless attacked.)

i agree, nanakland shouldn't be allowed in.

You are just saying that because if I came in, you'd see my region fighting, too - something you couldn't handle. Oh. And it's Nanakaland.

don't cry about it nanakAland, we stated at the very beginning to keep war mongering gimps with your 500000 nimitz carriers like you out of it.
McLeod03
31-12-2003, 21:13
don't cry about it nanakAland, we stated at the very beginning to keep war mongering gimps with your 500000 nimitz carriers like you out of it.

*coughBigmenistancough*
31-12-2003, 21:14
:lol:


sorry nanananananananakaland, didn't mean that really.

i TGed Bigmenistan about numbers
31-12-2003, 21:16
don't cry about it nanakAland, we stated at the very beginning to keep war mongering gimps with your 500000 nimitz carriers like you out of it.

1) I'm not a warmongerer.
2) I only have about 500 carriers total.
3) I'm not going to be involved, anyways. I don't want to fight godmoders like you.
McLeod03
31-12-2003, 21:17
He seems kinda pissed off that a system designed to shoot down incoming ATA missiles from over 200 miles away works. Maybe it because he realised i was gonna whoop his fleet?


IC:

<Encoded Message>
TO: Terristani Government
FROM: King James IV

Perhaps others are right. This war has dragged on far too long, and certain nations have shown their cowardice. The blockade shall be lifted, on the condition that you do not aid Bigmenistan when i push the war home against him.
Autonomous City-states
31-12-2003, 21:18
You claim that having 500 carriers is not godmoding? I'm getting a sense of deja vu here.
31-12-2003, 21:19
don't cry about it nanakAland, we stated at the very beginning to keep war mongering gimps with your 500000 nimitz carriers like you out of it.

1) I'm not a warmongerer.
2) I only have about 500 carriers total.
3) I'm not going to be involved, anyways. I don't want to fight godmoders like you.



500 carriers total? you confirmed my original point exactly, thanks :shock:
31-12-2003, 21:20
don't cry about it nanakAland, we stated at the very beginning to keep war mongering gimps with your 500000 nimitz carriers like you out of it.

1) I'm not a warmongerer.
2) I only have about 500 carriers total.
3) I'm not going to be involved, anyways. I don't want to fight godmoders like you.



500 carriers total? you confirmed my original point exactly, thanks :shock:

Typo. I meant to say 50.
31-12-2003, 21:22
50 is still a helluva lot for any nation
McLeod03
31-12-2003, 21:24
<Encoded Message>
TO: Terristani Government
FROM: King James IV

Perhaps others are right. This war has dragged on far too long, and certain nations have shown their cowardice. The blockade shall be lifted, on the condition that you do not aid Bigmenistan when i push the war home against him.

An oh so unsubtle BUMP
SilveryMinnow
31-12-2003, 21:24
Secretary-General Brown released a statement regarding the McLeod-Terristan standoff today.

"I support a peaceful resolution to this conflict, as enough lives have been lost on either side to make their point made. If the participating nations are willing, I offer that the Federation serve as a ceasefire arbiter and oversee the peaceful withdrawal of each deployed force to its respective home country.

"To that effect, the Tiamat Battle Group has been ordered to head for Terristani waters by international sea lanes in the event our offer is accepted."

Both the Terristani and McLeodian governments are provided with the Tiamat Battle Group's planned route to avoid any accidental attacks.

Diplomatic level message

To:Secretary-General Brown,
Autonomous City-states.

From:Secretary of State-Colin Pike,
Republic of SilveryMinnow

Sir, the Republic of SilveryMinnow offers its assistance for your peacekeeping operations.
Enclosed in the Diplomatic pouch are the coordinates of of our 1st, 2nd, 3rd Naval Task force groups, and the ARG Marine convoy on standby. The Republic of SilveryMinnow would like also to see an end to the unecessary bloodshed, as in light of the current situation it would seem that the continued loss of life is just wrong. We would ask also that the Terms of Peace be accounted for equally among all combatants.
We are at your service sir.

Colin Pike-Secretary of State
Republic of SilveryMinnow.
Autonomous City-states
31-12-2003, 21:24
I don't think there are 50 carriers in the world today...
31-12-2003, 21:25
Aggressive actions have stopped within Terristan. A period of mourning will commence for all those who died.
McLeod03
31-12-2003, 21:27
The heavily battered task force, still in international waters, assemble, before heading back towards McLeod03 for dry dock repairs.
31-12-2003, 21:30
Terristan would like to see an end to the illegal blockade, however due to the fact that McLeod forced the blockade through, Terristan cannot promise aiding Bigmenistan if they too are unfairly attacked or blockaded.

However at the moment we would like to call an extension to the cease fire.
Autonomous City-states
31-12-2003, 21:32
The Tiamat Battle Group arrives in international waters just outside of the Terristani zone of control. Four AeroScout AWACS UAVs are launched, each sporting anti-submarine LIDAR and wide-array surface radar antennas, to begin coordinating and tracking the disengagement.
SilveryMinnow
31-12-2003, 21:34
Narrative: In the Cargo area of the captured Hippie ship, the Protesters sit wide-eyed in silence.

Hippie 1: Listen man, you hear that?
Hippie 2: I don't hear anything man?
Hippie 1: That's right, they've stopped shooting.
Hippie 2: Maybe it's a cease-fire?

DIPLOMATIC MESSAGE

OIC NAVAL ADMINISTRATION CROOKFUR,

From: Phisher Mann
Deputy Director SilveryMinnow Maritime Agency.

Sir, or Madam.
The Transport Ship "SilveryMinnow Banker," has reached your specified coordinates, and is awaiting transfer of your captives. We are ready to begin recieving them at your leisure.

Thank you.
Autonomous City-states
31-12-2003, 21:39
Diplomatic level message

To:Secretary-General Brown,
Autonomous City-states.

From:Secretary of State-Colin Pike,
Republic of SilveryMinnow

Sir, the Republic of SilveryMinnow offers its assistance for your peacekeeping operations.
Enclosed in the Diplomatic pouch are the coordinates of of our 1st, 2nd, 3rd Naval Task force groups, and the ARG Marine convoy on standby. The Republic of SilveryMinnow would like also to see an end to the unecessary bloodshed, as in light of the current situation it would seem that the continued loss of life is just wrong. We would ask also that the Terms of Peace be accounted for equally among all combatants.
We are at your service sir.

Colin Pike-Secretary of State
Republic of SilveryMinnow.

In the event your forces are needed to maintain the ceasefire, we will call on you.
31-12-2003, 21:40
Terristani salvage trawlers and dive teams move out to sunken McLeodian ships and begin planting explosives to break up the larger ships, which are acting as hazards for other ships in the seas. Dive teams also salvage any potential intelligence and assess battle damage.

Eventually explosions ripple through the water breaking up the hulks.

1 Bigmenistani drifter is picked up in his life raft.
31-12-2003, 21:45
OOC: At this point, we need Bigmenistan to respond to McLeod03's counterattack.

He just destroyed what? 300 something AMRAAMs with lasers? I don't respond to god-modding.

Actually, the Airborne Laser project is in its test flight stages IRL... and given the NS penchant for putting present-day experimental systems into service, this is not a stretch. Unless you want the rest of the players to move on without you (which they seem prepared to do), I suggest that you give an appropriate response.

I don't respond to god-modders. So far he has-

1. Seen frogman divers jumping out of my ships AT NIGHT with satellite photos

2. destroyed every single harpoon missile I have fired at him (about 400)

3. Destroyed 3/4 of the cruise missiles I have fired

4. Destroyed all of my AMRAAM missiles.

There is no technology in existince that can destroy a speeding a2a missile, maybe something being tested and researched, but nothing that can work 100%. That's just BS.
McLeod03
31-12-2003, 21:47
Six McLeodian salvage vessels steam towards the sites of the wrecked ships, dive teams and remote robtic submarines making short work of recovering vital documents, befor ehte longer task of recovering bodies begins.
31-12-2003, 21:49
2. destroyed every single harpoon missile I have fired at him (about 400)

Well, that's a pretty high amount....
McLeod03
31-12-2003, 21:50
OOC: At this point, we need Bigmenistan to respond to McLeod03's counterattack.

He just destroyed what? 300 something AMRAAMs with lasers? I don't respond to god-modding.

Actually, the Airborne Laser project is in its test flight stages IRL... and given the NS penchant for putting present-day experimental systems into service, this is not a stretch. Unless you want the rest of the players to move on without you (which they seem prepared to do), I suggest that you give an appropriate response.

I don't respond to god-modders. So far he has-

1. Seen frogman divers jumping out of my ships AT NIGHT with satellite photos

2. destroyed every single harpoon missile I have fired at him (about 400)

3. Destroyed 3/4 of the cruise missiles I have fired

4. Destroyed all of my AMRAAM missiles.

There is no technology in existince that can destroy a speeding a2a missile, maybe something being tested and researched, but nothing that can work 100%. That's just BS.


1) I may have ICly claimed it, but that could easily have been propaganda.

2) No i didn't. No more than you did.

3) Same as you did.

4) That is what Al-52s are designed for. 12 aircraft firing at a rate of 180 shots per second. More than enough to destroy the missiles.
31-12-2003, 21:51
Terristani salvage trawlers and dive teams move out to sunken McLeodian ships and begin planting explosives to break up the larger ships, which are acting as hazards for other ships in the seas. Dive teams also salvage any potential intelligence and assess battle damage.

Eventually explosions ripple through the water breaking up the hulks.


the trawlers move off, satisfied with the intel gathered move off back to Ut Yara.
Autonomous City-states
31-12-2003, 21:53
OOC: Seeing as Bigmenistan doesn't seem to want to participate in the developing RP while the others have swallowed their losses, I guess we can move on without him.

IC: The Tiamat BG continues to monitor the withdrawal, its AeroScouts keeping a close eye on the salvage vessels. A dozen Manta-class unmanned attack submarines are used to escort departing ships.
Crookfur
31-12-2003, 21:54
OOC: Damn you all for a bunch of monkeys for going all hot when i can't get on ;) aren't GFs a pain at times...

Nanakaland: You may have nopticed that we have deliberatly avoided the whole alliance "pile-on-athon" state of play. I doubt that anyone here is in anything a crater making or a massive invasion frame of mind.


As to the whole massed cruise missile thing, well it can be done but i doubt that most VLS equipped boats carrymore than a 1/2 thier payload as criuse missiles and these are quite a pain in the ass to reload anywhere near a combat zone.

Terristan does have an advantage in that his fleet is operating in home waters with what remains of his ports but i doubt they have the capacity to handle bigmenistani vessels if or when they break through the blockade so they will have to rely of fleet support squadrons like McLeod and myself.

A general Crookfur fleet support squadron looks like:
2 EM-80 sturgeons for UWR
2 other UWR vessels
5 EM-75 Fleet oilers
1 aviation tanker
2 FLo-Flo ferries/tranports
1 submarine tender
5 Maria missile boats
3 Maria 2 AA vessels
2 Eva patrol boats
and soemtimes an escort frigate(yes i am paranoid).

OOC:
Despite the Crookfur Fleet being largely out of positon with the main strikes the Crookfur toll was still high the light aircraft carrier Adventurer was sunk with the loss of over 60% of her hands and the majority of her aircraft (6 harriers survive and after launching 4 ACM9s (upgraded meteors) each head for the nearest availble landing slots) the frigates Jon Mathews and Gainful Pride are sunk as are 2 MArias and 4 Evas (i know you were unlikely to target them intially but maybe the respondent surge in ECM output made soem issues).


In reponse the Crookfur retailiation was feirce with a sustained 10minute gun bombardment being targeted against defensive and command locations on the coast (just about all my gun armed vessels take part ie almost all of them). The surface is enhanced as the 3 silent knife subs each surface and fire one 10 round volley each from thier vertical gun systems.

The CFBC interupts thier programing with instant news of the attack and the primeminister and the King both make public speachs.

In a final response Crookfur EW assets begin a total coms black out against the Terristan Mainland (about 6 EW birds operating from carriers supported by EW vulcans and CFE-9I longshores operating from the nearest Crookfur base).
31-12-2003, 22:03
In a final response Crookfur EW assets begin a total coms black out against the Terristan Mainland (about 6 EW birds operating from carriers supported by EW vulcans and CFE-9I longshores operating from the nearest Crookfur base).

could someone dumbify this bit for me, i don't understand :oops:
SilveryMinnow
31-12-2003, 22:04
OOC: Can I have my hippies back now?
McLeod03
31-12-2003, 22:04
I think he means heavy communications jamming and radio/television jamming.
Autonomous City-states
31-12-2003, 22:06
In a final response Crookfur EW assets begin a total coms black out against the Terristan Mainland (about 6 EW birds operating from carriers supported by EW vulcans and CFE-9I longshores operating from the nearest Crookfur base).

could someone dumbify this bit for me, i don't understand :oops:

He is conducting full electronic warfare against your country in an attempt to shut down your telecommunications networks... and seemingly ignoring the ceasefire. :P
SilveryMinnow
31-12-2003, 22:08
In a final response Crookfur EW assets begin a total coms black out against the Terristan Mainland (about 6 EW birds operating from carriers supported by EW vulcans and CFE-9I longshores operating from the nearest Crookfur base).

could someone dumbify this bit for me, i don't understand :oops:

Crookfur is using planes with giant Tesla coils to disrupt your communications during the combat. Lots of land based operations going on, but no range disclosures. Don't know what EW Vulcans are.
31-12-2003, 22:08
In a final response Crookfur EW assets begin a total coms black out against the Terristan Mainland (about 6 EW birds operating from carriers supported by EW vulcans and CFE-9I longshores operating from the nearest Crookfur base).

could someone dumbify this bit for me, i don't understand :oops:

He is conducting full electronic warfare against your country in an attempt to shut down your telecommunications networks... and seemingly ignoring the ceasefire. :P


...........well its not working :cry:
31-12-2003, 22:33
OOC: Seeing as Bigmenistan doesn't seem to want to participate in the developing RP while the others have swallowed their losses, I guess we can move on without him.

IC: The Tiamat BG continues to monitor the withdrawal, its AeroScouts keeping a close eye on the salvage vessels. A dozen Manta-class unmanned attack submarines are used to escort departing ships.

I posted my losses, I was fair about it. Until Mcleod started giving me this BS about shooting down all my missiles.

If he can't take any losses, then why should I? (not to mention my earlier airstrike that he never responded to)
McLeod03
31-12-2003, 22:35
Er, hello, i did. Face it, the only reason you argue is that you were getting whipped.

I took way more losses than you, and launched more missiles at you in return.

Note to all: Bigmenistan has now ignored TGs, and refuses to accept losses. Therefore, he is ignored. ANy further altercations with GCON will not involve him.
Crookfur
31-12-2003, 22:45
Geez this thread moves far too fast....

You went through 2 pages in the time it took me to post that... (ACS had just posted a s a pontential negiator)

Well consider the Electronic warfare lifted (although jamming of civilian coms isn't an act of war it is perfectly fair play to postion a satillite so that it can over ride all your TV broadcasts (soemthing the russians were very interested in doing to the US, acording to Arthur C Clarke).
The EW vulcans are Vulcan heavy bombers that are used a massive flying antenas, proabably about a bit more powerful than the latest EC130 models

And my fleets are going home.

OOC:
As a amrk of respect an a monument to the futility of war we ask that all sunken Crookfur vessels be considered war graves.

As the Crookfur Fleet moves away the pre arranged meeting between the SilveryMinnow collection vessel and the Crookfur transport occurs and the idiots are repatriated. (just as well noone hit any of my FLo-FLos then...).
SilveryMinnow
31-12-2003, 22:48
Narrative: Inside the Cargo hold of the Crookfur possessed, "Freedoms Rainbow," two captured members of The Human Targets are speaking.

Human Target 1: Is the War over man?
Human Target 2: I don't know? Maybe we should ask one of the guards.

Human Target 2 moves to a sealed door and yells, "HEY MAN! WHATS GOING ON OUT THERE?

(Getting no reply the protestor moves back to his original place in the hold.)

Human Target 1: What'd they say man?
Human Target 2: I dunno man, the fascists are keeping us guessing.
Human Target 1: Do you think they'll put us in prison back in their country?
Human Target 2: I dunno man, but I hear those Crookfur prisons are filled with homosexuals.
Human Target 3: Ooooo, I hope they thend uth there!

A burly Petty Officer opens the sealed door:
"WARS OVER HIPPIES! EVERYBODY ON DECK TO BOARD VESSEL "SILVERYMINNOW BANKER!"

Human Target 1: RIGHT ON MAN! OUR PEACE MISSION WAS A SUCCESS!

The protestors debark singing "We are the Champions."
Kelanis
31-12-2003, 23:02
Kelanis is happy to see that a ceasefire has been reached.

In response, Kelanis is deploying 250 B-109 Scorpion supersonic medium bombers to the fringes of Terristan airspace, armed with AS-104 'Vortex' extreme-range anti-ship missiles (3 apiece, 750 missiles.) The patrolled area, including all sunken ships, has been declared a temporary exclusion zone for all sides involved. Hostile ships disobeying the cease fire will be sunk from well outside their weapons range.

OOC note: The AS-104 has a range of over 500 miles against surface ship targets.
Autonomous City-states
31-12-2003, 23:17
The Federation thanks the nation of Kelanis for their impromptu aid in maintaining the cease fire and asks that Kelanis flight plans be filed with the Tiamat Battle Group's combat information center.
31-12-2003, 23:19
all ships within Terristan waters and nearby will be moved and assessed, our waters and nearby are shallow, we don't want to risk any accidents.

Terristani salvage trawlers will do as they please.


OOC: closed thread BTW
31-12-2003, 23:23
Kelanis is happy to see that a ceasefire has been reached.

In response, Kelanis is deploying 250 B-109 Scorpion supersonic medium bombers to the fringes of Terristan airspace, armed with AS-104 'Vortex' extreme-range anti-ship missiles (3 apiece, 750 missiles.) The patrolled area, including all sunken ships, has been declared a temporary exclusion zone for all sides involved. Hostile ships disobeying the cease fire will be sunk from well outside their weapons range.

OOC note: The AS-104 has a range of over 500 miles against surface ship targets.

bit heavy handed isn't it, stop trying to flex your muscles, i nor i suppose anyone else is interested
Kelanis
31-12-2003, 23:25
The Federation thanks the nation of Kelanis for their impromptu aid in maintaining the cease fire and asks that Kelanis flight plans be filed with the Tiamat Battle Group's combat information center.

Kelanisian aircraft are maintaining a seaward patrol route just off Terristani airspace (basically, back and forth, using satellite reconnaisance to monitor the area for potential targets.) In a few hours NS time, the squadron will return for refueling, and they will be accompanied by radar-surveillance aircraft when they return to Terristani space.

Terristani salvage trawlers will be allowed to move freely, but they will be warned off and then destroyed should they attempt to salvage ships of another nation which have been declared war graves.
Crookfur
31-12-2003, 23:29
OOC: actually you would have no right what so ever to go near sunken vessels in international waters and even less in the way of rights since they are officially war graves (and it would really really annoy my populance and force my governement to do soemthing silly like drop bunker busters on your grave yards... and be very close to an act of war).


And no i'm not just protecting any tech, anything that would have sunk my vessels will have buggered up everything on board them.


The sites of the wrecks are well marked so they provide no navigational issues.
31-12-2003, 23:34
where do the rules state you can't go near sunken ships?
Terristani trawlers continue there actions.



Kelanis, this is a closed thread.
Kelanis
31-12-2003, 23:40
where do the rules state you can't go near sunken ships?
Terristani trawlers continue there actions.



Kelanis, this is a closed thread.

you should include that in the thread title.
IGNORE cannons have been fired at this thread.
Crookfur
01-01-2004, 00:00
Any vessel sunken or otherwise in international water is still the property of its owner.

The owning nation can ask you to salvage the vessel for them (and if you execute the operation you could resonably expect paymnet depending on how you carried it out, trawlers would be a no no here).

If you feel that vessels would posses an enviromental threat you can request that the owner salavge them and they would then be duty bound to do so.

General Rl international war graves legistion maintains that such sites should be maintained in a scarcrosanct manner (so going over them with a trawler would be very very bad)

While this is soemthing that may not apply to such an unfeasable nation as your nation seems to be (a debate for another day) it is soemthing that would be covered in any cease fire agreement

This really is an issue to put to ACS and SlMi

IC: the Crookfur government will willingly conduct a minimal enviromental impact recovery operation of its property if any envriomental or extrme shipping dangers so exist as determined by international advisors.

If no such situation exists then we would reiterate the fact that the vessels are infact war graves and as such should be left in peace.

OOC: if there was anythign to be gained from salavging them then i would have done so myself, and remeber my task group isn't long gone and there is another on its way...
01-01-2004, 00:06
that a threat?

if i want to do anything i can just do so in secret, at another time.
matter over.
Crookfur
01-01-2004, 00:21
OOC:
Yes very much so

And no, not with all the soubouys in the area...

And then there are the satellites, slavaging any vessel involved would be an enournmous task (and totally uneconomical, what exactly do you expect to get? a few rusting harriers and the odd tomahawk? secret coms tech? even the steel used in the hulls would be cheaper to buy...).


IC:
CFBS news bullitin:
in response to the on going hysteria from what little Terristani governemnt actually exists about nebulous enviromental and navigational issues surrounding the stricken wrecks of Crookfur vessels and Public demand that the bodies of all Crookfur service people be brought home, the Crookfur Admirality has pldged to under take one of the biggest coordinated salvage operations of all time. At the Request of Mcloedian Authorities we would be willing to extend our operations to include thier vessels.

Naturally such a massive operation will take time with optimistic estimates coming in at around the 6month mark.

Inital survey and exploration duties will be carried out by units from the 1st carrier group who will provide operational support and supply to the salvage vessels.
01-01-2004, 12:49
haha very easy to worry you isn't it.

Firstly, i didn't even notice any of your ships were sunk,
secondly we have already done what we needed to do which was basically assess the damage done by our strikes and maybe examine a few minor things. Nothing serious.

Foreign seabouys in our waters will simple be destroyed. Half submerged ships in our waters will also be removed as potential saftey hazards.

If you want to keep your satelites over us fine. We have no concern over your nation at all.
Crookfur
01-01-2004, 13:00
Well considering that there are no ships bar your own in your waters then it is a moot point.

And if you remeber no Soubouys or sea bed sonar monitors were placed in your waters just surrounding it
SilveryMinnow
01-01-2004, 18:15
Aboard the SMMS Dreadnought Merrimac, Admiral Tatnall and his two highest ranking ships officers stand before a "Smartbridge," display.

Admiral Tatnall speaks to his Intelligence Officer; "We have coordinated our ships with those of the Tiamat group, in order to effectively screen them against a suprise Attack?

Intelligence Officer; Aye Sir. Tiamat group has sent us temporary codes to be used for communication. These have been programmed into our scramblers. There appears to be some vessels in the area not connected with the action, but are maintaining their distance.

Admiral Tatnall; Very good, maintain orders for general quarters, Battlestations at my or the Tactical Officers command. It was a very close thing gentlemen. We need to resolve this situation as quickly as possible.
SilveryMinnow
01-01-2004, 18:23
SMTV NEWS BULLETIN

A Message from the President of SilveryMinnow

Setting: Sitting by a fireplace in an armchair placed upon a weaved rug is President Strangelove smoking a pipe. A golden Labradore Retriever sleeps by his feet. The President is a Dark Haired Man. His attire is an ash grey suit, highly polished loafers, leather gloves, and a pair of eyeglasses with one lense darkened.

"My fellow Citizens of SilveryMinnow. Today we have seen the professionalism of our Military forces, regarding their participation in the Terristan conflict. That in fact Peace can be resolved without the means of direct action through conflict.

I know that there have been some who have because of our national history, called for a more direct intervention, but you must remember that as a Libertarian nation, we must first strive to maintain a noninterventionist status. All Diplomatic measures must be exhausted before we commit ourselves to the horrors of war.

At one point we thought we had failed in our diplomacy, when the conflicting nations began firing upon each other. When the great loss of life was realized by the warring countries, a truce was offered and accepted. Our Forces are now aiding in the security of that truce.

We regret the great loss of life that occurred during the Terristan conflict despite the repeated efforts of this nation to approach all the combatants to resolve their grievances at the table, not the battleground. We regret that thousands died, added to the deaths of the hundreds of U.N. members whose deaths started the War. Two wrongs do not make a right.

I would like to thank each and every one of you, my fellow citizens, for your strength of character and resolve during our nations challenge. Your efforts and support were comendable.

God Bless SilveryMinnow, and Goodnight."
01-01-2004, 18:58
I'm sorry Terristan, but I have to withdraw from the RP. Because I can't RP with people like Mcleod03 that can fire 'magical lasers' to destroy incoming AMRAAM missiles flying at well over supersonic speed.

I do apologize, but it's like they say- you can't beat a god-modder.
Autonomous City-states
02-01-2004, 04:26
I'm sorry Terristan, but I have to withdraw from the RP. Because I can't RP with people like Mcleod03 that can fire 'magical lasers' to destroy incoming AMRAAM missiles flying at well over supersonic speed.

I do apologize, but it's like they say- you can't beat a god-modder.

OOC: Your complaints were addressed quite some time ago. Instead, you seem to insist on throwing in facetious comments after RP has continued without you. All the while, you're sticking your fingers in your ears and screaming "He can't do that! He can't do that!"

If you had actually continued with the RP like everyone else, you would realize that a ceasefire has been declared and everyone is backing off. Your little tirades are neither helpful or necessary.
SilveryMinnow
02-01-2004, 18:26
[code:1:c355bf5b77]Fleet Admiralty Tiamat Battlegroup:

It has been some time since the conflicting nations have engaged with each other. Taking this into account I believe that it would be correct to state that hostilities have in fact, ended.

My government agrees with this observation, and recommends immediate return of SilveryMinnow vessels to the defense of our own country. As of 1200 hrs. The fleets of SilveryMinnow will comply with this initiative.

It has been an honor and a priviledge working with your forces in the role as peacekeepers.

Admiral Tatnall
Flag Admiral
Immediate Reaction Fleets. [/code:1:c355bf5b77]
Autonomous City-states
02-01-2004, 19:49
[code:1:e072d737e3]Fleet Admiralty Tiamat Battlegroup:

It has been some time since the conflicting nations have engaged with each other. Taking this into account I believe that it would be correct to state that hostilities have in fact, ended.

My government agrees with this observation, and recommends immediate return of SilveryMinnow vessels to the defense of our own country. As of 1200 hrs. The fleets of SilveryMinnow will comply with this initiative.

It has been an honor and a priviledge working with your forces in the role as peacekeepers.

Admiral Tatnall
Flag Admiral
Immediate Reaction Fleets. [/code:1:e072d737e3]

[code:1:e072d737e3]Admiral Tatnall:
The Secretary-General's Office has also declared an end to hostilities and we are to depart for our respective home ports in 24 hours.

It has been an honor and a pleasure.

Captain Sorenson
FNS Tiamat[/code:1:e072d737e3]
Autonomous City-states
03-01-2004, 10:34
OOC: Bump.