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Ka-58 'Black Ghost' Attack Helicopter

Kazakhstania
17-12-2003, 18:09
For all too long Kazakhstania has been forced to purchase Attack Helicopters from other countries. United Elias has supplied the excellent EA-26 for years, and we have bought many surplus AH-1's. Now, we have decided to release something never created before that will surpass all made before.

We announce to you here our new attack helicopter, the Ka-58. It has earned its nickname in trials, and decent tests show that 1 can knock out almost half an armoured division, at over 40 tanks. Its unique design earns many merits. We give you...*drum roll* the Ka-58!!

Ka-58 'Black Ghost'

http://www.arcair5.com/Gal1/701-800/gal714_Kamov-Ka.58_Chirico/images/07.jpg

Design

The Ka-58's design was tight. It was meant to be stealthy and sleek, with a low profile. All, it was designed to have the latest electronic systems and a powerful engine. We have come up with such a design well, and have found it to be a superior attack helicopter. It has filled all the constraints, and surpassed many.

Lets start with the engine. The double turbines are fed through forward mounted grills to lower thermal imaging output, and the exhaust is vented through a small spleen in the back. This also lowers heat output. The double rotors are large and wide, and are mounted one on top of the other. This takes away the need for a tail rotor, as they spin in opposite directions. It also doubles the lift created for a higher weapons load.

http://www.arcair5.com/Gal1/701-800/gal714_Kamov-Ka.58_Chirico/images/01.jpg

It has a sleek and stealthy body with rounded edges, and a twin tail at the end. It black nylon-fibre cover make it very stealthy, and they also absorb heat so less is vented for detectors to pick up. It has character in one weapons pylon on either side, and a large bay underneath.

The cockpit layout is user friendly, with a double HUD for the pilot and co-pilot. Each has duplicate controls, and between the two there are 6 Small Control Screens and 2 large screens. Each is touch sensitive and is calculated by sensors behind the screen. Also, specially designed helmets control where the cannons are pointed, and the pilot’s screens each has their own HUD. Thermal, night vision and digital Vision are all available for the pilot through the helmet.

http://www.arcair5.com/Gal1/701-800/gal714_Kamov-Ka.58_Chirico/images/02.jpg

The dimensions of this helicopter are fairly large. We all think of attack helicopters as small, but it is fairly large especially for a stealth helicopter.
Its main dimension is its height. Due to the double rotors and weapons bay it is tall. It may not have a low profile, but it is certainly smaller than the Mi-35 and can carry an identical payload.

Systems

The second design attribute of this helicopter was it had to contain some of the worlds (OOC: I mean Modern Tech Worlds) most advanced systems. No less, we have lifted most of the systems from our latest and greatest ground attack fighter. It contains all the systems, and more.

Our proudest system is the JTIDS, Joint Tactical Information Distribution System. This computer allows information to be passed quickly and efficiently to other helicopter, ground units and aircraft. This gives great scout capability, in that information can be passed with the use of cameras and imagers, and automatically passed on.

The targeting system is second to none. Using easy controls via the screens in the cockpit, targets can be assigned and aimed at with ease. The targeting system automatically targets the cannon where the helmet sensors are pointed, or are trained on targets assigned. All payloads are targeted easily and weapons catered for by the computer and profiles are merged, via Thermal, Heat seeking sensors that can be targeted.

The supercomputer that runs it all is liquid nitrogen cooled and very, very small. Still, it can manage the flight controls, targeting and JTIDS in nanoseconds. It allows for learning, and can be automatically programmed to do certain things. Target info can even be passed on mid mission.

http://www.arcair5.com/Gal1/701-800/gal714_Kamov-Ka.58_Chirico/images/04.jpg

A radar in the front is small, but still useful. In front of the cannons, the radar has a range of 30 nautical miles. It can pass info on smoothly, and can be trained again via the pilot’s helmets. Radar guided missiles can be fired and guided by the radar, which can be turned off at any time to preserve stealth. Even then, ECM can detect aircraft and ground targets easily.

Counter measures include a grade A jammer. What it does is use jamming to stop jamming. This provides an all time jammer that stops other jammers effecting the electronics. Also, chaff and flares as well as radar dazzlers can be included.

The ejection seat is a pretty violent affair. Explosive charges are placed in the inner engine compartment. When they are given the order, they blow and the rotors are blown off the restraints, miles sideways. Then, the whole cockpit is released and is jetted upwards, free from the helicopter. When they come to 200 feet, a parachute is opened and the whole cockpit comes to a soft landing, The whole thing floats, as an added bonus.

Weaponry

We always knew that this helicopter must be heavily armed to stand any chance, and it has prevailed. Huge loads of weaponry can be loaded, including 250kg bombs and the like. Hell, one can almost carry the payload of a Hind, but not quite. Lets start shall we:

The frontal weapon is a twin 30mm cannon. It is fully rotating, and its rate of fire can be changed via the cockpit controls. This varies from 300, 2,000 to 2,600 rounds per minute, for ammo conserving. It can pierce the top ammo of most tanks, and seriously damage others. It can also be used on aircraft and helicopters. It can pan 360 degrees and raise and fall 45 degrees.

http://www.arcair5.com/Gal1/701-800/gal714_Kamov-Ka.58_Chirico/images/03.jpg

The main weapons bay can accommodate 2 250 kg bombs or 8 AT-16 ATGM's. These are fairly large weapons, each capable of mass destruction. The 250kg bombs weigh, well, 250 kg and are very large. They in fact, where designed for aircraft. Enjoy :twisted:

The wing pylons are large. They can carry some very special weapons. They can carry 16 AT-16's each, and are capable of holding Air-to-Air Missiles like the AA-10 Alamo. Hell, they can carry 2 250 kg bombs each. This is a huge payload, capable of destroying huge numbers of armoured vehicles, or aircraft.

http://www.arcair5.com/Gal1/701-800/gal714_Kamov-Ka.58_Chirico/images/08.jpg

We hope you like our attack helicopter, because it is surely the best for a while on NS. Thankyou:

Role: Anti-helicopter and Anti-Tank
Blades Main rotor: 6 (2 heads, 3 blades each)
Rotor diameter: 15.1 meters
Wingspan: 8.34 meters
Length rotors turning: 16.5 meters
Fuselage: 16.0 meters
Height gear extended: 5.23 meters
Gear retracted: 4.2 meters
Engines : 2x 2,200-shp KZ-110 Turbo Engines
Speed Maximum: 340 km/h
Cruise: 270-310 km/h
Sideward: 100+ km/h, Rearward: 100+ km/h
Max “G” Force: +2.5 to +3 g
Ceiling Service: 5,500 meters
External Fuel Tank: 500 ea. (max 4x)
Armament: 2x YaK-567 30-mm cannons
40x AT-16 ATGM’s
4x 250kg bombs
8x AA-10 Alamo

Cost: $18,000,000

http://www.arcair5.com/Gal1/701-800/gal714_Kamov-Ka.58_Chirico/images/06.jpg

http://www.arcair5.com/Gal1/701-800/gal714_Kamov-Ka.58_Chirico/images/02.jpg

http://www.arcair5.com/Gal1/701-800/gal714_Kamov-Ka.58_Chirico/images/05.jpg
17-12-2003, 18:16
dark terror sells it already

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=95334
Kazakhstania
17-12-2003, 18:19
Thanks DT!

He didnt use the official name, and mines looks better :D

And different pics.
Soviet Haaregrad
17-12-2003, 18:20
dark terror sells it already

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=95334

OOC:
So, it's not his idea, as this model shows.

BTW what company makes this model and what scale is it in?

Also I'm pretty sure it can't fire the AA-10, maybe the AA-8 or AA-11 which are dogfight missiles, certainly not the AA-10 which is the Soviet Sparrow/AMRAAM equivalent(depending on version).
Kazakhstania
17-12-2003, 18:21
I found out about the Ka-58 AGES ago. It is actaully my idea :D

I dont know, I got the pics off some webiste. Its 1/72 I think, Italeri
17-12-2003, 18:22
I would like to purchase 2 of these and production rights?
Kazakhstania
17-12-2003, 18:23
Sure :)

Prod right 7 Billion, and the 2 are 36 Million please.

Thats: $7,036,000
17-12-2003, 18:32
Sure :)

Prod right 7 Billion, and the 2 are 36 Million please.

Thats: $7,036,000Because I am an honest individual I will give you the correct amount of 7,036,000,000.

*money wired*
Jaxusism
17-12-2003, 18:35
Production rights please. *money wired* Ignore my TG.
Kazakhstania
17-12-2003, 19:01
Oh yeh...mssing 3 zero's.

Anyway, comnfirmed.

Prod right 7 Bil.
Somewhere
17-12-2003, 19:26
Our air force is very impressed with these helicopters. We'll take 250 of them, the 4,500,000,000 has been wired.
Layarteb
17-12-2003, 19:30
It's a Ruskie cross between the Apache, the Hokum, and the Commanche. What will they steal...err come up with next?
Kazakhstania
17-12-2003, 20:02
Actually, its really just a glorified KA-52.

Orders confirmed.

250 is a bit....excesseive.
17-12-2003, 20:11
Greetings Kazaksthania, I don't even need to tell you the next bit so i'll just make my order.

We would like 50 Ka-58 'Silent Ghosts' or 'Silents Ghosts' whichever one was correct.

This come to a total of $900'000'000. We are as always happy to do business with you.

PS: Make sure we get all the systems this time!
17-12-2003, 21:37
17-12-2003, 21:37
Like Hi-58 without half the systems :roll: (ejection seat for starters, mr crew friendly)
Soviet Haaregrad
17-12-2003, 21:47
It's a Ruskie cross between the Apache, the Hokum, and the Commanche. What will they steal...err come up with next?

Actually it's Italeri's Soviet Commache fantasy model, just like the MiG 37 and the F-19 and SR 75 Aurora, doesn't exist.
Kazakhstania
17-12-2003, 21:47
I noticed that at the bottom....

Half the systems? I think not.

JTIDS, Countermeasures, Advanced Targetting, a hell of a radar, supercomputer, helmet targeting......

Mental note. Add Ejection Seat.
17-12-2003, 21:53
I noticed that at the bottom....

Half the systems? I think not.

JTIDS, Countermeasures, Advanced Targetting, a hell of a radar, supercomputer, helmet targeting......

Mental note. Add Ejection Seat.
Same thing without the ejection seat, then.
Colerica
17-12-2003, 21:58
The United Empire of Colerica will purchase 30 of your KA-58 helicopters, for 540,000,000. Money wired upon confirmation...
Colerica
17-12-2003, 21:59
The United Empire of Colerica will purchase 30 of your KA-58 helicopters, for 540,000,000. Money wired upon confirmation...
Kazakhstania
17-12-2003, 22:00
Hehe, I have equalled the great DT!!

Oh well...*mopes off to add crappy sub standard ejection seat*
Kazakhstania
18-12-2003, 11:03
BuMP
20-12-2003, 11:24
thats fake :P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P
20-12-2003, 13:21
can I have 100 Ka-58 'Black Ghost' Attack Helicopter
20-12-2003, 13:21
can I have 100 Ka-58 'Black Ghost' Attack Helicopter
20-12-2003, 13:21
can I have 100 Ka-58 'Black Ghost' Attack Helicopter. money wired
20-12-2003, 13:48
can i have 100 Ka-58 'Black Ghost' attack helicopter.money wired
Kazakhstania
20-12-2003, 18:06
Werrr, is that 100, 200 or 300 :?

The other Guy, confirmed.
NouvelleTerre
20-12-2003, 19:51
The Empire of NouvelleTerre would like to purchase 1300 Ka-58 Helicopters and if possible production rights.

Total Price: 23,400,000,000 US Dollars
Kazakhstania
20-12-2003, 19:56
Eh, would yoi mind scaling your numbers down.

Thats a bit big.
NouvelleTerre
20-12-2003, 20:01
Eh, ok well The Empire will scale down their ambition, 500 Helicopters for 7,800,000,000 US Dollars as well as production rights.
20-12-2003, 20:01
60 Ka-58 Black Ghosts for 1,08 bil plz money wired when confirmed
Kazakhstania
20-12-2003, 20:05
Sorry, no prod rights.

Confirmed.
Kazakhstania
21-12-2003, 11:07
bump
26-12-2003, 19:30
300 Ka-58s please. $5.4 million wired. I think this fulfills all my helo needs...
Kazakhstania
26-12-2003, 19:32
Order Confirmed.

That it should, largest load in NS I think.

Be sure to check the development thread.
02-01-2004, 23:26
Another large order coming up :D

We'd like to order 432 of these, which totals to 7,776,000,000.

Money will be wired upon delivery.
02-01-2004, 23:55
I'll take 100 for 750,000,000

*Amount Wired on confirmation*
02-01-2004, 23:58
I'll take 100 for $750,000,000

*Amount Wired On Confirmation*
03-01-2004, 06:46
If its not too much trouble, can you hurry the delivery? We anticipate heightened hostilities soon...

And we might also make another order soon.
Kazakhstania
03-01-2004, 14:43
Orders Confirmed.
03-01-2004, 15:01
penguisiana would like to purchase 25. 450 million wired upon comfirmation
03-01-2004, 15:07
whoa.... I posted on the wrong user.... H-o
Penguisiana
03-01-2004, 15:09
ok..... 25 helicopter. 450 million wired upon comfirmation
Danmarc
03-01-2004, 15:20
The Republic of Danmarc is very interested in purchasing 50 of the KA-58 for the price fo $900,000,000. With satisfaction of the initial order, we may be interested in a larger purchase later as well. Money will be wired upon acknowledgement of order.

Geordie White
Secretary of International Economic Affairs
The Republic of Danmarc
Soviet alliance
03-01-2004, 15:57
i will purchase 50 for $900.000.000
Kazakhstania
03-01-2004, 17:44
We are sure you will like the helicopter.

Orders Confirmed.
Independent Hitmen
03-01-2004, 17:47
We wish to buy the production rights please.

7Billion wired
Kazakhstania
03-01-2004, 17:50
Wow. IH buying something non american :shock:
Independent Hitmen
03-01-2004, 17:52
Wow. IH buying something non american :shock:

I know its amazing isnt it! The thought of half an armoured division being taken out by 1 helo kinda made me like it!
Sambizie
03-01-2004, 17:55
Do you have any 1 seaters available?
Kazakhstania
03-01-2004, 17:57
I know. A hell of a lot of Missiles.

Order Confirmed.

The AH-1 Cobra isn't actually all that bad, as it is a light and fast helicopter, kinda a light AH. But the AH-64 is rubbish, it doesnt carry much more than the AH-1, and is bigger. Just electronic space wasters.
Freeshire
03-01-2004, 18:01
I'll take 100 for $750,000,000; along with production rights. Which will make it $7,750,000,000. Money will be wired when the order is confirmed.
Kazakhstania
03-01-2004, 18:02
Order Confirmed, enjoy your helo's.

Sorry, this helicopter would not be possible with only one pilot. The information needed to fly and shoot is too great.
Danmarc
03-01-2004, 20:28
*Wires $900,000,000 to Kazakhstania.*

This is for my purchase of 50 KA-58 copters, per my prior message. In the next few minutes a military grade 727 will be taking off from my nation with a crew of pilots & mechanics to maintain and fly the newly purchased helicopters home. Please allow this plane access to your air space, as this is an unarmed, Passenger plane. Thankyou for doing business with The Republic of Danmarc. We will surely be in touch as our growing nation's needs increase.

Geordie White
Secretary of International Economic Affairs
Republic of Danmarc
Kazakhstania
03-01-2004, 20:30
We will let the plane in, but shall guard it closely with 6 F/A-41's. Thankyou.

Any more orders?
04-01-2004, 02:39
Again, same order.

432, which totals to 7,776,000,000.

Money will be wired upon delivery.
Lunatic Retard Robots
04-01-2004, 02:42
LRR will buy 1 for whatever reason.

*Money Wired*

OCC: Did you build that model yousef?
Kazakhstania
04-01-2004, 14:49
Orders Confirmed.

OOC:

LRR, arent you future tech?

And no, it was the only pics I could find.
26-01-2004, 02:04
Chinese Army will buy 1460 of these models for 26.28 billion.
26-01-2004, 02:08
Chinese Army will buy 1460 of these models for 26.28 billion.
Kazakhstania
28-01-2004, 18:39
OOC:

Best. Helicopter. Ever. Period.

IC:

Order Confirmed.