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Mostovia Student Revolt

17-12-2003, 12:41
The Republic of Moldovia has declaired a State of Emergency as the 'Socialist Government' has lost control of the streets to Foreign military forces and Communist demonstrators who were attempting to overthrow the government.

[see]http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=104864&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

To say that the guns of the Communists are silent, is misleading as their power is in numbers not guns - but with several hundred of them now killed by the Foreign Forces who have interviened in this crisis, they [the communists] are not a imediate concern.

We have ordered all foreign forces to leave Mostovia and asked that any nation wishing to send troops to our country, should first seek permision.

the Government of Mostovia is apealing now for

a) Humanitarian Assistance
b) Peacekeepers

Thank you
17-12-2003, 12:43
Is this just spam or do you have something to say too?
No_State_At_All
17-12-2003, 12:44
ooc: WTF?
Zvarinograd
17-12-2003, 12:46
OOC:
He's probably having a brain fart.
17-12-2003, 12:47
POWERFULL WORDS OF A POWERFULL MAN
No_State_At_All
17-12-2003, 12:54
ooc: now hes edited it my post looks stupid.(DOH) :evil:
17-12-2003, 13:24
Belarus can provide Humanitarian Assistance to Mostovia and should you also require we will provide a peacekeeping force, however for this we will need the use of an airbase.

Our proposed deployment is:

a) humanitarian - 120 personel (including 20 doctors)
b) civil defence (peacekeepers) - 300 personel, and logistical support.

However our peacekeepers will only protect law and order and will not suppress democratic protest.
Iuthia
17-12-2003, 13:42
To: The Government of the Republic of Moldovia
From: Lord General deGritz, Iuthia Prime, Iuthia
Subject: Your Sovereign Nation's Rights
Message:

We are alarmed at the current developments within your nation, we are not talking about the riots as we expect your nation should be able to handle that much without requesting assistance from other nations.

No, we talk about the blatant misguided intervention that other natiosn have imposed on yourselves, they do it without asking and they do it with foolish "best intentions" despite the fact they have caused more damage by scaring your citizens into conflict then anything else... how would Iuthian's react to unknown troops within our nations with the wrong uniforms? They would call for help and then fight or run... this is obserd and all their warped reports on their firefights and conflicts are probably just propergander*.

We simply ask this, will you allow Iuthia, a well known nation for opposing imperialist actions, to cleanse your nation of this foreign threat with our own forces and assistance... we are large enough to protect your nation and we can put the military backing behind our forces in such a way that no backlash will happen.

We have also set up a fund to help your people with monetary aid to go along with the general aid we have prepared to send to your nation.

Meanwhile we would also like to help you hunt down the spies that are currently causing additional decent within your nation, New Labor admitted to sending in infiltators to cause problems and they claimed this on a open channel.

If you do not require our assistance then we wish you luck in removing the forces of:

Hattia
CorpSac
New Labor
HPSauce
Norahc
Communist Rule

However, we ask that Liberated America is not treated harshly as they were removing their own people from an embassy and you can't fault those intentions.

Thanks for listening,

http://www.nationstates.net/images/flags/uploads/iuthia.jpg

Lord General deGritz, leader of the Iuthian people.
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* OOC: You guys have made this into a interesting RP, however you have made the biggest mistake anyone can do in a conflict... you didn't wait for him to RP his own guys, instead you made it follow your idea of whats going on, now I am going to dismiss all this nice roleplay as propergander, misinformation or just misunderstanding, in my eyes you guys are just fighting each other in his nation, not his forces because his forces haven't been RPed by him... chances are that if any of his people did fight then they only fight because you are here... lets see what I can recover from this mess.
17-12-2003, 14:12
17-12-2003, 14:13
To: Belarussian States

We accept your offer of both humanitarian and peacekeeping assistance. Your peacekeeps will simply be asked to protect key buildings as our own police service is heavily sympathatic to the Communists, expecially since the media reports of foereign troops fighting in our streets...

To: Iuthia

Thank you for your offer - I am hoping that foreign troops will leave by their own accord but should they refuse you have permision to send MINIMAL forces to show them the door.
SR
17-12-2003, 14:26
To: Mostovia.
SR is alarmed by this as well, and would like to offer you our elite military unit, The Strikers. They are trained in riot situations, and can use non-lethal weapons if you prefer. We also will offer you any other support we have that we can give you, including building materials, weapons, and other such items.
OOC: EDIT: I'd better actually post what I intend to send.
120 Strikers, each with their own weapons and equipment, with non-lethal and lethal ammo. If you cannot feed them, food will be sent.
Commanader Soldant, SR.
CorpSac
17-12-2003, 16:26
[code:1:a4f5100847]
To: Mostovia
From: CorpSac peacekeeper Force Alpha

Do not blame our forces we moved in after we saw the protest turning into riots, we moved in to help protect hospitals, goverment buildings and such, we did not open fire first.
Our forces within ur nation have been on rescue duties helping Liberated America and one other nation at there embassy.
Forgeign forces such as new labor hacve been incressing the problem. my forces have been aressting people, trying not to killl.
if u wish our force to withdraw we will with out delay after we find our team. at the moment all our forces are at hospitals, powerplants, police sations helping fire fighter and such.

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Iuthia
17-12-2003, 17:01
OOC: Please, your story isn't the problem here, it is the fact that you've gone in and role-played his peolpe, you've leaped into someone elses nation and then claimed that the people are reacting in a way you role-play... how do you know they are going to react? Did he say they were armed the way you did? Did he get the chance to RP his people? How about his own forces? He didn't get to RP them...

Personally I would of just ignored all your RP regarding his people, seeing as they are his people to RP and you have to have permission to RP with his people because you don't know what is going on. You and many others basically made a RP about his nation and didn't bother to let him have a say and that is out of line...


IC:

To: The Government of the Republic of Moldovia
From: Lord General deGritz, Iuthia Prima, Iuthia
Subject: Regarding our forces..
Message:

I thought I had best make a point of describing Iuthian tactics as well as covering our view of your situation.

Firstly when I say full military backing, that is external of your nation, we do not intend in sending large numbers of forces, nor would we dream of using tanks due to their weight... they damage roads you see. What we mean is that we will use our military to pressurise nations to leave, we are a very large nation and have been rated by the UN to be in the top 2000 nations regarding defence forces, this is despite our lack of a nuclear arsenal.

Secondly we have dealt with terrorist in the past and have learned a few methods of which to safely hunt them down, we once had a terrorist organisation called the PDF who specialised on military and government targets... as such we offer you the support of a anti-terrorism squad of investigators and special ops.

We would prefer that we don't have to mobilise forces due to the cost of such an action, we have a tight budget due to our work with our Space Carrier which is sucking up valuable resources from our military operations. So we would prefer that you use the threat of Iuthian involvement as a method of convincing these interlopers that they are not welcome.

Thanks for listening,

Lord General deGritz, leader of Iuthia
CorpSac
17-12-2003, 17:05
OOC: i never sead they were armed till someone elce sead they were, i never RPed his people well not any killings. plus most if not all of my posts were helping other nations such as Liberated America.
Communist Rule
17-12-2003, 18:50
OOC: Just in case anyone missed it, the former government leaders were whisked away from the government buildings. Since Mostovia is one of them, he can tell us where he would like to go.
Free Pacific States
17-12-2003, 19:28
OOC: Yea, that got way out of hand. The one explosion that rocked my embassy was not supposed to be one obviously launched by civilians. Chances are, it was launched by another nations tanks, who missed accidentaly. Those shells can go a long was. At any rate, here's my embassies positon. Hope you don't mind my describing what's going on outside the embassy. If you wan't, I'll edit later, just put a comment into your next post.
IC:
The FPS embassy had withstold somewhere around an hour and a half of frequent rioting. The choppers still would not arrive for quite awhile (they had to be called back once the pilots realized they didn't have enough fuel to go both waysy), and so the embassy was on its own. However, it didn't seem to be that bad. Most of the rioters had already gone on, and those that stayed (and seriously tried) were easily beaten back by embassy security forces. However, even those few had left in the last hour or so, and now a group of about 20 drunken students were simply chucking rocks and beer bottles at the embassy walls, doing nearly no damage. The intelligence office had finished deleting it's information, and the embassy was no longer in an danger. The explosion had actually missed the building, but instead had hit it's antennas on the roof, cutting off communication.

While the embassy had repaired their communications enough to receive, they still could not send, and were in an area of the city that anyone would call "hostile". Things were still rather quiet. The embassy sat, trying to regain its communications, hoping that a second group of rioters wouldn't try to attack the embassy. Ambassador Chris Drens still sat in the control room, though now Agent Jordan Eiserman, incharge of embassy intelligence, was also able to advise the ambassador. Things had good from bad to worse to great, and both men hoped it would stay that way.

OOC: Hoping for a response for Mostavia as to what the rioters are doing currently. By the way, are we accepting that a certain nation (I don't remember who) kidnapped the Mostavian leadership? Or are we just ignoring that RP?
Communist Rule
17-12-2003, 19:32
OOC: It was I, and it wasn't a kidnap, it was a rescue operation where the revolutionaries wouldn't know what happened to the government. It was designed as a "kidnap" of sort so that the revolutionaries still thought the cabinet was holed-up in the gov. buildings. Further, I was waiting for a post from Mostovia to act as the "kidnapped" dignitaries, telling their "captors" to bring them back or transport them to a safe bunker, etc, etc.
Liberated America
17-12-2003, 19:33
OOC: Well, we had to RP that his civilians did something, it was a whole day before Mostovia even reacted to all the things in the thread, he just made it and let it be.

IC:

The Armored division was encamped for the second day in the city centre. They had food and water enough for 2 more days before they had to pack it up and go home, but Pierce was going to do all in his power to find the Liberated American troops (which he believed to be POWs to the Rebels now) before his governement sent in something more severe as to hold up their policy of, Leave no man behind.
CorpSac
17-12-2003, 19:44
since the news from Mostovia Goverment the Rangers couldnt do anything till they had orders from HQ, but the more timethey wasted the less time Liberated America and CorpSac's men/women had left.
orders had to come fast, CorpSac never leave people behind and they were not goin to start now.
CorpSac forces were moveing out of the city but the rangers had orders to stay with LA troops.

OOC: personaly i dont c what me have done wrong i replyed to other peoples posts so what i did was in the spirt of RP. if Mostovia replyed sooner then maby it wouldnt have got out of hand, so at the mo i have a Ranger squad with Liberated Americas forces. waiting to c what happens. and if Mostovia dont reply in say the next 2 hours then i will take matters into my own hands to get my men and women back. thats not a thrat. the way i c it if ur goin to makean RP and u leave it at lest say were u want ur RP to go. that way mistakes like this wont happen. dam noobs
Communist Rule
17-12-2003, 19:44
OOC: I know, that was the problem, as I posted Mostovia stopped posting. :roll:

IC: USSCR troops continue to stand guard outside the government buildings in black forest BDUs and parkas, as rain is predicted.
Free Pacific States
17-12-2003, 19:53
"We've spotted a group of armed personell, probably soldiers from other nations. The first few look like pilots, I can tell from their gear, the second few look like infantry soldiers." the soldier at the FPS embassy turned around and back towards the embassy, still holding down the button on his hand radio. "Orders sir?"
Ambassador Drens sat at his desk, listening as one of the South Wall Setinals continued reporting on the statues of them men. When he asked for orders, the Ambassador picked up his own radio, and answered "See if you can get their attention, and let them into the embassy. I don't know if it's a great idea for foreign soldiers to be walking around a city that's been nearly destroyed because of it." Hitting the button on his mike, he turned to one of the officers inside the control room, and began speaking again, "And try to get the police or somebody on the radio. I need to know what's coming so the embassy can be prepared. Maybe this riot has already been put down?" As he finished the question, Ambassador Drens, along with the other men in the room, realized just how false a hope that was. What punctuated the false hope more was the sound of a beer bottle hitting the room's window.
Liberated America
17-12-2003, 20:03
Captain Pierce sat in the command tent, wondering what to do. Pack it up and leave without his men? Stay in the city centre? Or Pack the column up, and sweep the city in one last attempt to find the missing men.

He took a vote from the 190 of his men. It came out 190 to 0 for option 3. None of them wanted to see the bodies of their friends on the 11 o clock news, burned and dismembered.

So he ordered the men to pack the emplacements up and get to their assigned vehicles, they were gonna go for one last ride around the city.

http://www.iranvision.com/images/iran-iraq/images/fight1.jpgPhoto taken by soldier at the street battle one day before
Liberated America
17-12-2003, 20:27
Almost 30 minutes later, the convoy was buttoned up and ready to move out. Pierce, boarded his M2 and the convoy bagan moving east through the streets, Heading towards the City's main intersection, about 2 miles from its centre.
Liberated America
17-12-2003, 20:34
They travelled through the streets, encountering no rebels which would fire at them, the ones they saw simply ingnored the Tanks which passed and went back to their own business.


About 3 or 4 blocks into the trip, they came to a Large intersection, which was clogged with the wreckage of old cars and the rubble of a few buildings.

Pierce looked around a moment and decided the break the column into 3 detachments, Alpha, Bravo, and Charlie. He ordered them to each take a direction, which was East, North, or South.

Pierce's unit, Alpha, would take the Eastern route, Bravo the southern, and Charlie the Northern. Their orders were to make a complete sweep of their assigned sectors and meet back here in 3 hours.

With a departing wave each unit fanned out and was on its way.
Iuthia
17-12-2003, 20:56
OOC: Well, we had to RP that his civilians did something, it was a whole day before Mostovia even reacted to all the things in the thread, he just made it and let it be.

OOC: I take it you have read the Role-Play FAQ and various guides, you only need to read the first few points but you guys have all completely ignored a large amount of the basic manners when roleplaying.

So the guy doesn't use the internet as much as you guys, does that give you the right to turn his nation into a war zone when all he had was a riot... may I also point out that riots do not have to be a huge nation wide thing nor do they result in the populace aquiring large amounts of military equipment, that has to be RPed by the nation who they belong to...

You just don't get the problem do you... you just want to make it so it isn't your fault. "He shouldn't be away for so long..." what a poor excuse, if you can't wait for him to RP his own people then do something else, because what you are doing is the same as me waiting until you are not around then posting 10 times with me just killing all your men with good RP while RPing your guys as incompetants... it's not done because it's like calling damage on someone elses stuff, you are making his situation into something which he doesn't want and he has even said that he doesn't want this in a OOC way.

Now I'm RPing the international consquences of a couple nations taking it upon themselves to leap into someones nation without communicating with their government... or even trying. As such I now see most foreign forces within his nation as hostile and I will route them out if I have to... hell, I could actually turn this into a international incident if I felt like it, personally I would shoot down any un-anounced helicopters that came near my city... but you guys didn't even give him a chance to shoot them down. If that had been an invading force (like how I would have treated it, I mean you didn't warn their military that you were sending forces) then I would demand a turn by turn RP where you move your men to my nation and I react...


If you didn't guess, I'm astonished at this... most people know the basics of RPing military action... this is just a farce and Mostovia has done nothing wrong.



Here is a recap of some things you are doing wrong:

1. Don't RP other peoples stuff, it pisses them off and you need permission, which no one even bothered with... you could have waited for a responce then drumrolled the thread like this in a legitimate way.

2. Assuming too much about his nation, you don't know a thing about it, you didn't ask. You just ran in there and turned it into Black Hawk Down, which requires all people involved to RP their stuff in turn so they may act and react.

3. Not waiting for your turn... this is a combat now, and it is a bad no-no to just drum roll actions, you just act and act and act without him even having a chance to RP the effects the way he is meant to do them (being his nation and all) and then react depending on what you did.


Then you have the idiocy to blame it all on the fact that he doesn't get online enough... once a day is good for some nations, it's hard because we all have a life to live, so wait for him next time.


Free Pacific States, you've got the idea... I can't fault you right now and you're actions are limited to you're stuff and maybe another nations stuff... however you should make sure it's ok for you to use his air space as Air Defences can be paranoid and helicopters coming in without warning will make people fire... this isn't a third world country here guys, he hasn't told us what it is.


Meanwhile the spirit of RP is to have everyone in the thread RP with everyone else when they are involved... not to just keep the story moving. If someone is their IC but they can't RP them at that time then you either wait or get permission to RP their side of the RP.


CorpSac, Mostovia has done everything by the book, they have not done anything wrong in my eyes and I've been around long enough to know a n00b when I see one... your n00b belly is showing because you arn't giving him a chance to RP his own people and reactions to your force which hasn't got permission from his government to be there, you haven't even responded to his latest cry for you to leave. So this will probably turn into a incident now where I get to prove that asking first is a good thing...

Don't call people n00bs because they can't post... I think I'll enjoy making your people leave because the way this is going he's gonna ask that Iuthia sends in their own force to remove the foriegn invaders from his nation.
Liberated America
17-12-2003, 21:30
Liberated America
17-12-2003, 21:33
OOC: Well, we had to RP that his civilians did something, it was a whole day before Mostovia even reacted to all the things in the thread, he just made it and let it be.

OOC: I take it you have read the Role-Play FAQ and various guides, you only need to read the first few points but you guys have all completely ignored a large amount of the basic manners when roleplaying.

So the guy doesn't use the internet as much as you guys, does that give you the right to turn his nation into a war zone when all he had was a riot... may I also point out that riots do not have to be a huge nation wide thing nor do they result in the populace aquiring large amounts of military equipment, that has to be RPed by the nation who they belong to...

You just don't get the problem do you... you just want to make it so it isn't your fault. "He shouldn't be away for so long..." what a poor excuse, if you can't wait for him to RP his own people then do something else, because what you are doing is the same as me waiting until you are not around then posting 10 times with me just killing all your men with good RP while RPing your guys as incompetants... it's not done because it's like calling damage on someone elses stuff, you are making his situation into something which he doesn't want and he has even said that he doesn't want this in a OOC way.

Now I'm RPing the international consquences of a couple nations taking it upon themselves to leap into someones nation without communicating with their government... or even trying. As such I now see most foreign forces within his nation as hostile and I will route them out if I have to... hell, I could actually turn this into a international incident if I felt like it, personally I would shoot down any un-anounced helicopters that came near my city... but you guys didn't even give him a chance to shoot them down. If that had been an invading force (like how I would have treated it, I mean you didn't warn their military that you were sending forces) then I would demand a turn by turn RP where you move your men to my nation and I react...


If you didn't guess, I'm astonished at this... most people know the basics of RPing military action... this is just a farce and Mostovia has done nothing wrong.



Here is a recap of some things you are doing wrong:

1. Don't RP other peoples stuff, it pisses them off and you need permission, which no one even bothered with... you could have waited for a responce then drumrolled the thread like this in a legitimate way.

2. Assuming too much about his nation, you don't know a thing about it, you didn't ask. You just ran in there and turned it into Black Hawk Down, which requires all people involved to RP their stuff in turn so they may act and react.

3. Not waiting for your turn... this is a combat now, and it is a bad no-no to just drum roll actions, you just act and act and act without him even having a chance to RP the effects the way he is meant to do them (being his nation and all) and then react depending on what you did.


Then you have the idiocy to blame it all on the fact that he doesn't get online enough... once a day is good for some nations, it's hard because we all have a life to live, so wait for him next time.


Free Pacific States, you've got the idea... I can't fault you right now and you're actions are limited to you're stuff and maybe another nations stuff... however you should make sure it's ok for you to use his air space as Air Defences can be paranoid and helicopters coming in without warning will make people fire... this isn't a third world country here guys, he hasn't told us what it is.


Meanwhile the spirit of RP is to have everyone in the thread RP with everyone else when they are involved... not to just keep the story moving. If someone is their IC but they can't RP them at that time then you either wait or get permission to RP their side of the RP.


CorpSac, Mostovia has done everything by the book, they have not done anything wrong in my eyes and I've been around long enough to know a n00b when I see one... your n00b belly is showing because you arn't giving him a chance to RP his own people and reactions to your force which hasn't got permission from his government to be there, you haven't even responded to his latest cry for you to leave. So this will probably turn into a incident now where I get to prove that asking first is a good thing...

Don't call people n00bs because they can't post... I think I'll enjoy making your people leave because the way this is going he's gonna ask that Iuthia sends in their own force to remove the foriegn invaders from his nation.

Calm down.....its only an RP.....Calm down

Not to mention...someone has alot of time on their hands. I got tired of reading that. Im gonna get a bowl of cereal.
Free Pacific States
17-12-2003, 21:55
OOC: Well, we had to RP that his civilians did something, it was a whole day before Mostovia even reacted to all the things in the thread, he just made it and let it be.

OOC: I take it you have read the Role-Play FAQ and various guides, you only need to read the first few points but you guys have all completely ignored a large amount of the basic manners when roleplaying.

So the guy doesn't use the internet as much as you guys, does that give you the right to turn his nation into a war zone when all he had was a riot... may I also point out that riots do not have to be a huge nation wide thing nor do they result in the populace aquiring large amounts of military equipment, that has to be RPed by the nation who they belong to...

You just don't get the problem do you... you just want to make it so it isn't your fault. "He shouldn't be away for so long..." what a poor excuse, if you can't wait for him to RP his own people then do something else, because what you are doing is the same as me waiting until you are not around then posting 10 times with me just killing all your men with good RP while RPing your guys as incompetants... it's not done because it's like calling damage on someone elses stuff, you are making his situation into something which he doesn't want and he has even said that he doesn't want this in a OOC way.

Now I'm RPing the international consquences of a couple nations taking it upon themselves to leap into someones nation without communicating with their government... or even trying. As such I now see most foreign forces within his nation as hostile and I will route them out if I have to... hell, I could actually turn this into a international incident if I felt like it, personally I would shoot down any un-anounced helicopters that came near my city... but you guys didn't even give him a chance to shoot them down. If that had been an invading force (like how I would have treated it, I mean you didn't warn their military that you were sending forces) then I would demand a turn by turn RP where you move your men to my nation and I react...


If you didn't guess, I'm astonished at this... most people know the basics of RPing military action... this is just a farce and Mostovia has done nothing wrong.



Here is a recap of some things you are doing wrong:

1. Don't RP other peoples stuff, it pisses them off and you need permission, which no one even bothered with... you could have waited for a responce then drumrolled the thread like this in a legitimate way.

2. Assuming too much about his nation, you don't know a thing about it, you didn't ask. You just ran in there and turned it into Black Hawk Down, which requires all people involved to RP their stuff in turn so they may act and react.

3. Not waiting for your turn... this is a combat now, and it is a bad no-no to just drum roll actions, you just act and act and act without him even having a chance to RP the effects the way he is meant to do them (being his nation and all) and then react depending on what you did.


Then you have the idiocy to blame it all on the fact that he doesn't get online enough... once a day is good for some nations, it's hard because we all have a life to live, so wait for him next time.


Free Pacific States, you've got the idea... I can't fault you right now and you're actions are limited to you're stuff and maybe another nations stuff... however you should make sure it's ok for you to use his air space as Air Defences can be paranoid and helicopters coming in without warning will make people fire... this isn't a third world country here guys, he hasn't told us what it is.


Meanwhile the spirit of RP is to have everyone in the thread RP with everyone else when they are involved... not to just keep the story moving. If someone is their IC but they can't RP them at that time then you either wait or get permission to RP their side of the RP.


CorpSac, Mostovia has done everything by the book, they have not done anything wrong in my eyes and I've been around long enough to know a n00b when I see one... your n00b belly is showing because you arn't giving him a chance to RP his own people and reactions to your force which hasn't got permission from his government to be there, you haven't even responded to his latest cry for you to leave. So this will probably turn into a incident now where I get to prove that asking first is a good thing...

Don't call people n00bs because they can't post... I think I'll enjoy making your people leave because the way this is going he's gonna ask that Iuthia sends in their own force to remove the foriegn invaders from his nation.

OOC: Yea, your right. I did pull the choppers back, however (as I was originally planning, since I did realize what you were saying was true). However, I do apologize for that. I am curious as to when we continue the RP? And did anyone see my last post on pg.1?

Edit: Sorry about that, 5 howevers in two sentences? Kind of sad I must say.
Iuthia
17-12-2003, 22:27
Calm down.....its only an RP.....Calm down

Not to mention...someone has alot of time on their hands. I got tired of reading that. Im gonna get a bowl of cereal.

OOC: If I wasn't calm, I would of resorted to:

OMFG!!!1!!1! JOO N00B!!!1!! JOO CAN''T DO THA'

Well, actually I wouldn't, but thats besides the point. If you guys want to RP so bad, do something among yourselves, you lot are on the same level and you are around more often then he is... it's not the content as such, but the fact that some of you have the audicity to blame him for not being online as often as you but if you are going to do something that involves him then you have to wait for him.




So a summary of my rant... I'll admit it, it was a rant and I like it when I rant because it focuses my mind some.

Not his fault for being online only once a day... your fault for assuming what his nation is going through...

I could be more simple if you like, but I wouldn't want to insult your inteligence.


As for what you should do... well thats not my problem, but if you keep going with RPing his people and ignoring his IC requests to leave then it will become my problem as your troops will continue to be in his territory without authorisation...

However, I guess it is only fair to let you escape the way you came in, I just wanted to make the point that this was very bad form and had it been someone else they would of asked you to start the whole RP again.

Just assume you find your lost troops (oh look, they were around the corner all this time) and you evacuate your citizens from the mobs wielding the very rare machine gun and occasional pistol (he said they had more men then guns, nothing heavy... seeing as he sees your troops as more of an issue).


The RP was good for you guys... but you didn't include the one person who it all mattered to, and that is why I'm not happy.

I'll leave it at that.
CorpSac
17-12-2003, 22:29
OOC: Well, we had to RP that his civilians did something, it was a whole day before Mostovia even reacted to all the things in the thread, he just made it and let it be.

OOC: I take it you have read the Role-Play FAQ and various guides, you only need to read the first few points but you guys have all completely ignored a large amount of the basic manners when roleplaying.

So the guy doesn't use the internet as much as you guys, does that give you the right to turn his nation into a war zone when all he had was a riot... may I also point out that riots do not have to be a huge nation wide thing nor do they result in the populace aquiring large amounts of military equipment, that has to be RPed by the nation who they belong to...

You just don't get the problem do you... you just want to make it so it isn't your fault. "He shouldn't be away for so long..." what a poor excuse, if you can't wait for him to RP his own people then do something else, because what you are doing is the same as me waiting until you are not around then posting 10 times with me just killing all your men with good RP while RPing your guys as incompetants... it's not done because it's like calling damage on someone elses stuff, you are making his situation into something which he doesn't want and he has even said that he doesn't want this in a OOC way.

Now I'm RPing the international consquences of a couple nations taking it upon themselves to leap into someones nation without communicating with their government... or even trying. As such I now see most foreign forces within his nation as hostile and I will route them out if I have to... hell, I could actually turn this into a international incident if I felt like it, personally I would shoot down any un-anounced helicopters that came near my city... but you guys didn't even give him a chance to shoot them down. If that had been an invading force (like how I would have treated it, I mean you didn't warn their military that you were sending forces) then I would demand a turn by turn RP where you move your men to my nation and I react...


If you didn't guess, I'm astonished at this... most people know the basics of RPing military action... this is just a farce and Mostovia has done nothing wrong.



Here is a recap of some things you are doing wrong:

1. Don't RP other peoples stuff, it pisses them off and you need permission, which no one even bothered with... you could have waited for a responce then drumrolled the thread like this in a legitimate way.

2. Assuming too much about his nation, you don't know a thing about it, you didn't ask. You just ran in there and turned it into Black Hawk Down, which requires all people involved to RP their stuff in turn so they may act and react.

3. Not waiting for your turn... this is a combat now, and it is a bad no-no to just drum roll actions, you just act and act and act without him even having a chance to RP the effects the way he is meant to do them (being his nation and all) and then react depending on what you did.


Then you have the idiocy to blame it all on the fact that he doesn't get online enough... once a day is good for some nations, it's hard because we all have a life to live, so wait for him next time.


Free Pacific States, you've got the idea... I can't fault you right now and you're actions are limited to you're stuff and maybe another nations stuff... however you should make sure it's ok for you to use his air space as Air Defences can be paranoid and helicopters coming in without warning will make people fire... this isn't a third world country here guys, he hasn't told us what it is.


Meanwhile the spirit of RP is to have everyone in the thread RP with everyone else when they are involved... not to just keep the story moving. If someone is their IC but they can't RP them at that time then you either wait or get permission to RP their side of the RP.


CorpSac, Mostovia has done everything by the book, they have not done anything wrong in my eyes and I've been around long enough to know a n00b when I see one... your n00b belly is showing because you arn't giving him a chance to RP his own people and reactions to your force which hasn't got permission from his government to be there, you haven't even responded to his latest cry for you to leave. So this will probably turn into a incident now where I get to prove that asking first is a good thing...

Don't call people n00bs because they can't post... I think I'll enjoy making your people leave because the way this is going he's gonna ask that Iuthia sends in their own force to remove the foriegn invaders from his nation.

OOC: my forces are pulling out apart from the rangers who are sitting there waiting for orders to find 7 of my unit, i take back what i sead earlyer cos i know it was out of line. my posts were in responce to others.

IC: the rangers were sitting tight they still were waiting for orders, but time was running out.



Message
To: Mostoiva Goverment
From: CorpSac Intal

we wish to keep a team within ur nation to rescue a team, we are also willing to offer compenstion for any dammage we may have corsed willing or invertedly, we are asking for ur help in the matter of the lost team we do not know where they are.
Iuthia
17-12-2003, 22:38
How about you guys do something among yourselves, you got on quite well and I bet you could do something about making a large thread as you all RP small military incursions...

How about one of you just create a new nation and then RP a "situation" occuring that is like this one, you can all jump in, save the day and have a barrel of laughs, meanwhile you can also make it a private thread so nations like me don't give you trouble about it.

After that you guys could RP any film or idea you like and not have to worry about being patient...

Anyways... thats my peace offering. It will do...
Liberated America
17-12-2003, 23:06
OOC: Bah, this RP is wrapping up anyhow, seeing that FPS has what me and Corpsac are looking for.
Liberated America
17-12-2003, 23:31
Liberated America
17-12-2003, 23:41
Pierce wheeled his M2 around the corner to see Bravo and Charlie detachments waiting in the middle of the intersection, and with them were the 7 POWS that Pierce had been searching for the entire time.

Seeing no more reason to stay in the reched country, Pierce ordered the column to button up and move out, back to the homeland and away from this squallad hellhole of a country.
18-12-2003, 15:08
Role play abandoned AGAIN due to constant foreign intervention

EVERY NATION PLEASE LEAVE MOSTOVIA

Exactly what I didn't want to happen, namely foreign soldiers fighting in our country without our permission, has started again. Liberated American and all your friends, countries don't send troops into another sovereign nation unless they are attacking its government or have its permission.

Why don't you guys have your own RP, all I was looking for was a riot, which escalated into a revolution and maybe a counter revolution - I don't care about any excuses my nations sovereign rights were ignored!

This RP is over, we can assume that a cease fire has been called.