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Middle Eastern Nation test-launches ICBM... ...oil sales.

16-12-2003, 13:16
NEWSWEB::
The fledgling nation of the Armed Republic of Social Extremists, today demonstrated that it is not a force to be ignored by test launching an InterContinental Ballistic Missile into the pacific Ocean.
The missile, which contained no warhead, flew through neutral airspace then splashed down in the centre of the Pacific, far from any nation. Many governments are concerned that todays launch marked a range
from the Republic which includes their own nations.
No representative from the Armed Republic of Social Extremists has been available to comment, nor has any Treaty organisation yet condemmed the unauthorised launch. It is not yet known whether or not the Republic has access to Nuclear, Chemical or Biological warheads. Newsweb will keep you informed as this story infolds.
::NEWSWEB
16-12-2003, 13:20
your only 8 million, you dont have any icbms, wait till your 100 or at least 50 million.
16-12-2003, 13:27
OOC: Um... yes, yes I do.

OOC: Background: the armed republic of social extremists is an extremely militaristic state. The military is largely privatised by the wealthy family businesses which exist in the area. To suppliment this, special war bonds were issued to raise funds to purchase this weaponry.

OOC: Before you tell me what _my_ nation does and doesn't have, first see if I do have justification. An empty ICBM costs very little.
Nano soft
16-12-2003, 13:35
your only 8 million, you dont have any icbms, wait till your 100 or at least 50 million.
Well it could have been worse, like "ILL NOOK U!!!1111."

I suggest Social Extremists that you take Geforce4 advise, wait awhile to make them, because there little people out there just wanting to test there Ignore cannon, so don't use this in a war unless you have proff yiu bought it.
Doujin
16-12-2003, 13:37
*screams* GODMOD! :lol: :roll:
16-12-2003, 13:50
OOC: The international community may or may not be aware of the transaction which led to A.R.S.E purchasing two SS-18 rockets from the soviet union for $130m each.

OOC: The origonal post was infinitely better than 'I'll Nook U'. In other company it may have even inspired some interesting roleplay about the interaction between poor states with high military spending, trying to prove themselves as threats to rich superpowers without incurring the wrath of treaty organisations.

OOC: There are two reasons why the republic won't use these in a war...
1: They don't go 'bang', they go 'splash'; there are no warheads in them.
2: The republic isn't in a war, these two missile represent a disporportionately large ammount of the republic's spending. Her other forces are not strong enough to sustain a war.

OOC: I'm not sure which is more godmodding, telling someone what a nation has got or what they havn't got. It would have been nice to establish these facts in-character, possibly even fun.
16-12-2003, 13:51
Agrees totally with SE, offers hand of friendship to nation.
16-12-2003, 14:09
NEWSWEB::
While many of the world's leaders and diplomats are still debating the implications of the fact that such a small nation can potentially deliver warheads so far and debating the commercial origins of the hardware, The 'Administrator' of the Armed Republic of Social Extremists has made the following statement...

"Todays launch was a test of hardware which we hope will never be used.The Armed Republic of Social Extremists is a strong nation, but we are not without the need for allies. My nation wishes to make known its wishes to maintain peaceful allies with our friends in the pacific. That is all"

...we have not yet heard from any of the nations in the vicinity of the spashdown, so it is not known how forgiving they will be about such an unauthorised launch. Thankfully the lack of action so far is a good sign that this incident will not cause any bloodshed.
::NEWSWEB
16-12-2003, 14:13
You pose no threat to me and I will not hesitate to invade and let you know it.

Don't flex one muscle when all of the other muscles are weak.
16-12-2003, 14:26
It would be an outrage if the nation of HyenA took it upon themself to invade an independant state without any form of provocation. I must ask that you reconsider your intentions to declare war on our country before the treaty organisations of the world hear of this.
Our glorious Armed Republic never intended to threaten our allies and friends in the rightious nation of Hyena. We are of course grateful for the indirect custom that your country and her neighburs grant us for our Oil and Metal supplies.
Rasputin Jones - Administrator for the Armed Republic of Social Extremists
16-12-2003, 14:30
Gladly, I was viewing this as an act of intimidation. I can't stand intimidation. I will gladly set up trade relations with you. My nation has a moderately well developed steel, copper, iron ore and many other metals mining industry. We have a large supply of just about any weapon you could want.
Iuthia
16-12-2003, 14:42
You pose no threat to me and I will not hesitate to invade and let you know it.

Don't flex one muscle when all of the other muscles are weak.

OOC:Time to take this to another level…

I would suggest you follow your own advice; after all, you don’t want to be classified as a potential danger to other sovereign nations… I mean, while their defensive capabilities are nothing in comparison to your hypothetical invasion force, they will become sufficient should I feel that they have been threatened enough.

Don’t threaten nations just because you need to prove you are bigger then they are, that is not how international politics work. Show off your dick elsewhere and threaten nations your own size.


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16-12-2003, 14:43
Jones: I'm glad that the risk of violence has passed, and would like to refer you to minister Kerris, who administrates our thriving economy.

Kerris: Good morining, minister. As I see from our reports, your nation already has a reasonable supply of metals so I presume you are interested in oil. We can currently offer you 10 million barrels of Crude per year priced at US$21.50 per barrel. We can make the oil available at our export depot to the north of our country every month or we can discuss the instalation of a new pipeline.
16-12-2003, 14:45
we do not find anything wrong with the actions of this sovereign nationa and we will support them in the event of a war
Iuthia
16-12-2003, 14:51
we do not find anything wrong with the actions of this sovereign nationa and we will support them in the event of a war

War is not going to happen… that much is apparent, but I stand by my statement.


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Jitano
16-12-2003, 14:52
indeed war over so small an issue would be a very petty waste
16-12-2003, 14:59
Israel's got nukes, it's 6M people.

N. Korea's got ballistic missiles, it's certainly nowhere near 100 - 150M people.

Brazil's got 175M or so, it hasn't got nuclear subs, UK is 60M which does.

Don't really see any great correlation between population & military power.

IMHO...
even economic might is a dubious basis for assessing this:

USA works. Germany, Japan, Canada don't. UK, Italy, France: sort of (or not if you're looking from an American pov ;>). Russia and China, debatable.

In history, a society's cultural approach to defence is at least as big a determiner of their military ability / hardware as anything else.

For example the 12-13th C Mongol armies swept most of the world (East and West) before them because of a meritocratic promotion system, mobility, & a couple of bits of tech that were ahead of their time, not out of the power of their economy or population.

Final comment: don't think it's a godmod, think justification could use a 'why the ex soviet states would want you to have such powerful tech'.
Jeruselem
16-12-2003, 15:17
Israel's got nukes, it's 6M people.

N. Korea's got ballistic missiles, it's certainly nowhere near 100 - 150M people.

Brazil's got 175M or so, it hasn't got nuclear subs, UK is 60M which does.

Don't really see any great correlation between population & military power.

IMHO...
even economic might is a dubious basis for assessing this:

USA works. Germany, Japan, Canada don't. UK, Italy, France: sort of (or not if you're looking from an American pov ;>). Russia and China, debatable.

In history, a society's cultural approach to defence is at least as big a determiner of their military ability / hardware as anything else.

For example the 12-13th C Mongol armies swept most of the world (East and West) before them because of a meritocratic promotion system, mobility, & a couple of bits of tech that were ahead of their time, not out of the power of their economy or population.

Final comment: don't think it's a godmod, think justification could use a 'why the ex soviet states would want you to have such powerful tech'.

Israel got a "little assistance" from the USA.
16-12-2003, 15:22
OOC: Not USA, the vast majority of nuclear technology in Israel is French.
Jeruselem
16-12-2003, 15:24
OOC: Not USA, the vast majority of nuclear technology in Israel is French.

OOC
The French again! They helped Saddam with his nuke program too (accidentally).
Mind you, Israel now has nuke capable subs based on US designs now.
Doujin
16-12-2003, 15:51
(ooc: the first israeli nukes were made from us uranium/plutonium tho :? )

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Five Civilized Nations
16-12-2003, 15:52
or uranium...