NationStates Jolt Archive


Developments Confirmed; Advances in Aircraft

Zvarinograd
16-12-2003, 09:53
The first development is the AZ-BB-I. The AZ-BB-I is an aircraft developed by the United Socialist States of Zvarinograd to destroy a large concentration of armor in order to give it's allies significant help in eliminating superior threats. (i.e. those coming from a larger, imperialist nation) The aircraft itself is has a refueling system in order to make use of the United Socialist States of Zvarinograd's tanker plane fleet. It sports sufficient armor against small arms fire, however the rest of the plane is dedicated to it's guidance system electronics and it's payload, in order to carry the massive ordnance it is concieved to bring into the battlefield. The payload itself are missles with millimetric seeker warheads. Generally, anti-tank warheads, to satisfy what it does.

http://www.aircraftdesign.com/atf3.jpg
AZ-BB-I

Length: 60.17 feet
Width: 47.43 feet
Ceiling: 45,000 feet (13,636 meters)
Maximum Takeoff Weight: 85,000 pounds
Range: 800 miles (695 nautical miles); Unlimited with in-flight refueling
Powerplant: Twin General Electric TF34-GE-100 turbofans
Payload: 20,000 pounds
Arnament:
Twin Brimestone missile/launcher complex with:
190 70mm (2.75") APKWS2 anti-tank missles
Price: $15 million

The second development is one of the United Socialist States of Zvarinograd's attempts to eliminate the restrictions anti-air defenses has chained onto aircraft, the AZ-AGM-B "Freedom" SAM/AA Neutralizer. Aptly named "Freedom", it disables SAM installation's radars using a miniature low-cost version of our exisiting AZ-T III jamming suit and destroys them, giving the rest of the United Socialist States of Zvarinograd's massive airforce free reign over the enemy, the missle has an extremely long range, to grant the aircraft first strike over the SAM/AA installation.

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/missile/hellfire-line-3.gif
AZ-AGM-B "Freedom" SAM/AA Neutralizer

Price: $750,000 ($5 million for production rights)

OOC:
Suggestions? Comments? Post them here.
16-12-2003, 09:56
it says max weight is 55,000 lbs, but the payload is 20,000 lbs... is this some sort of error? or does this plane really weigh 10 tons dry =)

http://www.bateshome.com/jordan/rsig1.jpg (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=78939)
Zvarinograd
16-12-2003, 09:59
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I was thinking A-10 + 4000 lbs in both payload and in maximum weight. However, if that isn't feasible then I would freely change it.
16-12-2003, 10:02
The average superiority fighter weighs between 40-50,000 dry.

Look at my storefront for reference, I did my math :)
Zvarinograd
16-12-2003, 10:08
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Odd. I thought the average fighter weighed ~50,000 lbs maximum, not dry. Oh well.
16-12-2003, 10:13
OOC:
Odd. I thought the average fighter weighed ~50,000 lbs maximum, not dry. Oh well.well, maybe the little guys, but as for the big F-14s, ATFs, or the Big Migs, yeah.
Zvarinograd
16-12-2003, 10:16
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Any comments about the feasibility of the anti-SAM/AA missle?
16-12-2003, 10:17
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Any comments about the feasibility of the anti-SAM/AA missle?I think it is great! We'll donate 500 million to the project, in hopes that we might some day buy the production rights ;)
Zvarinograd
16-12-2003, 10:21
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Well, I meant development as in completed, I started the two projects some time ago. This is just the last minute tweaks before full production. However, just for you, I would be willing to sell you production rights.
16-12-2003, 11:35
Anti-Sam missile are called Anti-Radiation missiles. They work by homing into the radar centre of the sam site rendering the missile useless.

They have a large range and a very large.

IF you missile if different I am very interested in it.

If anyone is interetsed a MIG-31's max takeoff weight is 91,000lbs while a f-16 is only 22,000lbs, sop there is a large area for fighters to fall into.

P.S IF you do the maths make sure not to forget other details that may fall into play eg weight of Helium(Not spamming). This includes Weight of fuel, an easy calculation is 0.6Rough estimate of TSFC of a military fighters jet)*Total thrust of both engines*flight time(Rangexcruise speed)=Lbs of fuel needed.
For a fighter with 2 15,000lb engines to fuel for 1hours you would need around 18,000lbs of fuel.

Thats info was not relevent to this thread but to the topic. Sorry
Zvarinograd
16-12-2003, 11:55
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I know anti-radiation missles are generally large, due to the electronics, however I took the most compact of jamming systems when I assembled the AZ-T III electronic warfare suite for my airforce. In fact, the GPS/GLONASS jammer was handheld in it's natural form, yet it gave as much performance as any other military jammer. (See Russian Aviaconversia, in real life.) In addition, I use aluminum in a 1:1.25 RDX:TNT ratio HE/Fragmentation warhead for light targets (such as that of the radar section of a missle launcher system), which is the most powerful conventional explosive in the United States arsenal (dubbed H6, note that this is not FAE/TB, it does have the brisance/shattering effect of a normal bomb), therefore the warhead is minimized.

It's still fairly large, but not as large as others of it's kind.
16-12-2003, 12:11
OOC:
I know anti-radiation missles are generally large, due to the electronics, however I took the most compact of jamming systems when I assembled the AZ-T III electronic warfare suite for my airforce. In fact, the GPS/GLONASS jammer was handheld in it's natural form, yet it gave as much performance as any other military jammer. (See Russian Aviaconversia, in real life.) In addition, I use aluminum in a 1:1.25 RDX:TNT ratio HE/Fragmentation warhead for light targets (such as that of the radar section of a missle launcher system), which is the most powerful conventional explosive in the United States arsenal (dubbed H6, note that this is not FAE/TB, it does have the brisance/shattering effect of a normal bomb), therefore the warhead is minimized.

It's still fairly large, but not as large as others of it's kind.

As far are i know these missile are passive only and don't have a jamming system on them to avoid being detected.

Also be sure to have the engines/s powerful enough to give very high speed MACH4+ but also decent economy to fly a long range so as not to get the launch plane into the sams engagment area
Crookfur
16-12-2003, 20:14
Anti radiation missiles come in a range of sizes from ones about the size od a sidewinder (sidearm IIRC) up to really bit things (shrike?), the common ALARM missile is about the size of a sparrow/amraam type missile.


The addition of the jamming system is interesting.
Zvarinograd
17-12-2003, 05:56
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Since no one has any more suggestions, sale of the above items are open now. Note that I will not sell production rights for the AZ-BB-I. Happy shopping.
17-12-2003, 06:01
Well then, we'll take the rights to the missile, if you will ;) name your price please.

OOC: BTW Zvar, I finished my website, click to see it!

http://www.bateshome.com/jordan/rsig1.jpg (http://www.bateshome.com/jordan/)
Zvarinograd
17-12-2003, 06:11
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Care to look at the top? :P $5 million.

Nice website by the way.
17-12-2003, 06:12
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Care to look at the top? :P $5 million.

Nice website by the way.*looks at price again* What?? Man, i thought that was a joke price! Seriously, what's the catch? Do I have to pay you a royalty or something? Cuz that is frikkin low... I could have that paid off before I had enough missiles to payload one bomber ;)
Zvarinograd
17-12-2003, 06:18
For reasons as simple as this,

Apparently the missle will not be in service in the United Socialist States of Zvarinograd until after the budget for the production of the missle has been settled. (Our financial ministry is working around the clock trying to address budget issues due to the constant expansion of the United States of Zvarinograd's ever expanding airforce.) In the meantime, it has to show some sort of profit for the military, no matter how small because by the time it is in production we will have researched a better version. Therefore it is practically useless.

Dr. Sergei Valkov
United Socialist States of Zvarinograd
17-12-2003, 06:21
OOC: Well, it ain't exactly the best way to get a profit... givin out rights and plans and stuff at low low prices....

IC: Thanks, money wired!