NationStates Jolt Archive

Well, I'm not exactly sure why the other one was locked (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=104704) but this is my response to one of the posters.


Another pet peeve of mine is that most of the good RPs are closed. I can understand why, but wouldn't it be possible to say "Open, But Bad RP Will Be Ignored"?
This has been an OOC post.

OOC: I understand your pet peeve but there is often a simple reason why quite a few RPs are closed. That is, the main participants who are affected by the events should be able to interact with eachother.

I view it like this: my nation interacts with a few others, most notably other members of the FKC, alliance or pact obligations, and finally nations that we come into contact with through world events (such as the Drakonian Imperium). Why would I want to get involved in an event that most likely won't affect me? For example, since I don't have any trade or diplomatic relations with Roania (must pick on Roania :D ) why should I jump in on one of his roleplays? It makes no sense.

I hope you can see the main thrust of my argument. As well, I personally try to limit the number of roleplays I'm involved since I'm fairly busy in real life and feel that spreading oneself too thin takes away the quality. Not that I'm Mr. Quality or anything but I try to play my nation (which is still somewhat closed to the world although that is changing) in accordance with how a real nation would interact with others. This means that my roleplays are, to a certain extent, limited to whom I interact with in the first place. That's also why I have no problem at all with people wanting a "closed RP" since it's their story.

As for the quality of RP declining, I suppose that's subjective really. I don't know if pumping out a 5000 word post is necessarily indicitive of a "great roleplay". It means that the person is fairly descriptive, but I would think that having participants involved in the creation of a compelling, everchanging, and suspenseful story is better. I also tend towards the unscripted ones since the final outcome is ever in doubt.

Just my 10 won worth.

OOC: I wish my good friend PANTS could come here so we could continue our meaningful discussion...

Instead of posting a new thread for the mods to delete support the unlocking here (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=104725)!

OOC: Not to shut this thread down you won't.

edit: directed at Arribastan.

ITS TROUSRS! :wink:

Thanks Vrak.

I have noticed the significant portion of the forums filled with "n00bish" threads, ie. "I hate this country because they are not cool like me", but I largely ignore it, and don't let it bother me. I am more concerned with creating or joining good RPs.

That thread as well as this one were OOC in a forum where all posts /must/ be IC.

That thread as well as this one were OOC in a forum where all posts /must/ be IC.if you don't have anything to add to this topic, then go somewhere else.

That thread as well as this one were OOC in a forum where all posts /must/ be IC.

Your just hating cause I put you on my Oh So Evil Bad RPers List.

Just to add further for Goobergunchia's benefit.

"Open RP, bad RP will be ignored"

Well, this is already done for the most part. As well, a "closed RP" hopefully takes away the clutter. As well, it's a bit irritating when someone who possibly has no ties with the story to suddenly intrude. Personally, I use the telegrams to ask the main person in charge to see if it's okay to jump in.

What I think is a good development is that nations intent on developing a story will have an "IC" thread (with its spinoffs if any) and a parallel "OOC" thread to clear up confusion, post stats, and sort things out if needed.

Problems with NS roleplaying:

1.) Too many storefronts; yes, nations exchange technology and equipment all the time, but they don't set up big storefronts where everything they pride themselves in is displayed (I myself usually sell production rights quietly to allies and if I do make a post selling something, it's because I want people to actually know I have it... and to show off. :wink:

2.) Lack of basic logistics

3.) Too much of this first-person referance -- the ONLY time you should speak in the 1st person is when a character is speaking. It's small, but annoying.

There are alot of other things, too, but I'm too lazy to post. :P

Problems with NS roleplaying:

1.) Too many storefronts; yes, nations exchange technology and equipment all the time, but they don't set up big storefronts where everything they pride themselves in is displayed (I myself usually sell production rights quietly to allies and if I do make a post selling something, it's because I want people to actually know I have it... and to show off. :wink:

2.) Lack of basic logistics

3.) Too much of this first-person referance -- the ONLY time you should speak in the 1st person is when a character is speaking. It's small, but annoying.

There are alot of other things, too, but I'm too lazy to post. :P

OOC: I know I don't really have any say in matters around here as I'm only a handful of days old...but, after reading through what you guys have posted in these kind of threads and looking back through some of the archived threads, I'm getting the feeling this game has nosed-dived hard in regards to RP?

I've been involved in similar games to this before where RP is essential, and I consider myself fairly experienced with it...I just wish I could get some world attention, but that's a different kettle of fish...

Just thought I'd throw my 1 cent in....

Colerica.....

OMG this is OoC! II is strictly IC! THIS is the right IC place to talk about this... :lol: (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=104733&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=).

OOC: I know I don't really have any say in matters around here as I'm only a handful of days old...but, after reading through what you guys have posted in these kind of threads and looking back through some of the archived threads, I'm getting the feeling this game has nosed-dived hard in regards to RP?

I've been involved in similar games to this before where RP is essential, and I consider myself fairly experienced with it...I just wish I could get some world attention, but that's a different kettle of fish...

Just thought I'd throw my 1 cent in....

Colerica.....

Everyone has equal say as far as I'm concerned.

OOC: I know I don't really have any say in matters around here as I'm only a handful of days old...but, after reading through what you guys have posted in these kind of threads and looking back through some of the archived threads, I'm getting the feeling this game has nosed-dived hard in regards to RP?

I've been involved in similar games to this before where RP is essential, and I consider myself fairly experienced with it...I just wish I could get some world attention, but that's a different kettle of fish...

Just thought I'd throw my 1 cent in....

Colerica.....

From the several posts I've read, you're a pretty damn good RPer. Of course, nowadays, your creation date is what matters, not your RPing skills.

And you're lucky that you already know how to RP, I had to gradually teach myself. :oops:

OMG this is OoC! II is strictly IC! THIS is the right IC place to talk about this... :lol: (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=104733&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=).

OMG this is OoC! II is strictly IC! THIS is the right IC place to talk about this... :lol: (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=104733&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=).

:shock:

OMG this is OoC! II is strictly IC! THIS is the right IC place to talk about this... :lol: (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=104733&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=).

:shock:

Seems all of your are afraid of getting deated for whats right!

RP getting bad? If you mean war RP, well, overall I'd agree with NG's points. But if you meant that RP is declining because no one really types 23488290281482304821043 words in posts however, I'd have to say that it quite depends on the overall quality of the post, like what Vrak has trying to tell.

Also, overall I'd have to agree, closed RP tends to create MUCH less hassle and arguments (therefore turning to ignore), and helps the players to focus on the RP, and therefore making it better.

About storefronts however, being a "storefront" owner, I'd have to say that I too, begins to realize that the storefront business too far. In RL, the USA doesn't sell F-16s to countries they don't even know. That's also why I'm making my "storefront" post more integrated with R&D and technology showcase contents, and making sure that each order is at least RPed (no I'll take 200 super jetfighters or i'll get 50 ultra destroyers), and also enforcing what products can be exported to many countries and what products can't be :P

No one is poverty stricken, begging for water. Everyone has infinate money and a huge military... Its not like that in real life, your nation doesn't make everything you need, there is a lot of trading and selling going on. Everyone seems to have perfect landscapes...OOC: My nation is poverty stricken, has a very low tech military (mostly medieval with some more recent technology from the 1700s to the very early 20th century), and is littered with old buildings in need of repair (we don't have the technology to maintain them). Unfortunately, my nation doesn't seem to fit into any of the RPs so I (practically) never post. :(
As for locking the other thread...I don't see why it was locked, but it probably should've been in NationStates.

Also, overall I'd have to agree, closed RP tends to create MUCH less hassle and arguments (therefore turning to ignore), and helps the players to focus on the RP, and therefore making it better.

Indeed. Except in the case of the Melkor Wars. :x

OOC: I know I'm in no position to really be talking about the "'ole days" on this forum...but I've read a lot of the archived threads. After reading those and some of the stuff you guys have posted in threads similar to this, I've come to the general understanding that RP on these forums has taken a hard nose dive, when compared to what it used to be....am I correct?

I've been in games similar to this where RP is essential...so I consider myself fairly experienced in role-playing....but, I supposed, nothing I've done can really prepare me for role-playing in this environment with this many people....

Sorry if I disrupted your thread...just my 2 cents...

Colerica....