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Allied agents in the Reich have provided reports of massive fleet movements in the Baltic. The buildup of materials and the concentration of ships has not been seen on such a scale since the days of the German High Seas Fleet during the Great War. While reports are obviously vague, indications are that the Kriegsmarine intends to sortie the battleship Tirpitz, the battlecruisers Sharnhorst and Gneisenau, the aircraft carriers Peter Strasser and Graf Von Richthofen, and a number of smaller warships and fleet tenders. While the ultimate destination of such an impressive battle group is yet unknown, the Allied navies will surely be placed on high alert.
Also of special note is the emminent return of the battleship Bismarck and the cruiser Prinz Eugen to service after a lengthy period of repairs. Both ships were damaged in a battle in the Denmark Strait earlier this year which resulted in the sinking of the cruiser Graf Heydrech and the Walmingtonian battlecruiser Iansisle.
Allied naval spokesman declined to comment on the reports.

Perhaps a coded communique to your Allies in the Roycelandian Empire enlightening us to the purpose of all these activities is in order?

We are always ready to assist our allies in any material way...

Unless you're willing to enter a declared war against Walmington on Sea, Iansisle, and Calarca, be careful about what you're promising. (As a side note, Britain is also at war with us, but I'm RPing most of their actions.) Depending on how far you're willing to go, there are some other nations that I'm sided with: mostly because of the old "The enemy of my enemy..." thing.

OOC: Is this actually a WWII RPG or is it just coincidence that your ships are all named after famous German battleships? Surely, it can't be a coincidence that the Prince Eugen and the Bismarck are together AGAIN ...

OOC: I wouldn't mind getting involved in this, although I'm not sure whether '50s - '80s tech would fit.

News of massing German naval assets has been less than happily received in Walmington.

Everything was deployed to the Med in support of III and VII Corps, or else far off on station in Ceyloba.
Increasingly Admiralty figures debated withdrawing Naval Group Ceyloba- Chiang Mai and Hainan hadn't been heard of in some time. PM Mainwaring was confidently inclined to assert that he had been right about the weak character of the Asian "powers", and that they had faded exactly as he had expected.

Of course, even if NGC was recalled, she would take quite some time to return- since the outbreak of war with Ercolana, the Gulf of Aden had become unsafe, and the flotilla would have to head home via the Cape Colonies. Even then she would leave behind her commander, Admiral James Frazer, as he was now Governor of Ceyloba, and her flagship would still be the aged HMWS Royal Oak, sister of the defeated Iansisle.

No one suggested withdrawing assets from the North African coast- they were too important.

"Maybe Jerry's headed for North Africa." Suggested young Captain Pike.
"Maybe. But he's still going through the north Atlantic and our shipping lanes." Came Admiral Lavender's reply.

The Admiralty summarised her remaining assets, prompted by Pike's sarcastic suggestion that "We could always throw a couple of Gulls at them." The Gull Class being corvettes, of course.

Captain Pike was eventually removed from the meeting.

Carriers- HMWS Newry of the Sparrow Class was undergoing final fittings, and could conceivably be put to sea. Probably land based aircraft would be as useful given the range of Walmington's Swordfish, Nexus, and Musca.

Battleships- HMWS Queen Mavis had almost completed repairs, and merely required completion of testing on one of her secondard turrets, replaced after taking a 15" shell from Bismarck. HMWS King Godfrey I was ready and waiting.

Already the cruiser-obsessed Admiralty was begining to realise that actually, she had a few cards left up her sleeve. Mave had gone toe to toe with the best Jerry had, and she survived. WoS already had sixteen 15" guns waiting to block the Germans.

Battlecruisers- only HMWS Eastgate remained in the Atlantic- she was presently en route to Walmington from Canada.

Heavy Cruisers- HMWS Hansen too was in the Atlantic, and had been running between WoS and Britain.

Light Cruisers- HMWS Hancock was undergoing seatrials (ooc:I thought I'd deployed her in a hurry.. but I can't seem to find record of that. Do correct me if you notice her elsewhere)

Destroyers- HMWS Thresher was at anchor having completed repairs from the many splinters thrown at her in the Denmark Strait. Her crew were enjoying well earned leave after polishing off Graf Heydrech in a daring torpedo attack. HMWS Falcon was escorting a convoy to Morocco, while HMWS Mount Street was in Walmingtonian waters.

All in all, WoS could pull together two battleships, a battlecruiser, heavy cruiser, brand new light cruiser, two destroyers, and at a stretch, a light carrier. Oh, and ten submarines, but.. Walmington still didn't like those.

That wasn't half bad. But where to send them?

Further communication with the British was clearly required. Perhaps this could actually end up crippling the Kriegsmarine..

Can i join with modern tech ?

OOC: I'd like to formally request permission for my country to join this RP as a neutral observer and possible mediator.

ooc: This is part of a vast alternate second world war RP. Modern tech would not be workable, I'm afraid.
There is background dating to.. erm.. August? Earlier? And hundreds of posts involved.. the RP was badly over-crowded, but a lot of action has dropped off of late. I don't know- would adding more people complicate things further, or revitalise the conflict?
Anyway, threads such as this: http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=72881&highlight=
this:
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=73146&highlight=
this:
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=68006&highlight=
And I can't be bothered rooting out the rest .. are all relevent reading. I'm not the dictatorial voice of the affair, mind.

As a right-wing, Catholic Nation, we are hereby officially helping a fellow nation.

The Empire of KevinLand is sending an impressive fleet to help der Kriegsmarine if he accepts it.

The fleet consists of the following:

1 Kiev Class aircraft Carrier

6 Hatsuyaki Battleships

6 Typhoon Class submarines

2 Ticonderoga Missile Ships



Sincerely yours,

The Empire of Kevin Land

ooc: This is part of a vast alternate second world war RP. Modern tech would not be workable, I'm afraid.
There is background dating to.. erm.. August? Earlier? And hundreds of posts involved.. the RP was badly over-crowded, but a lot of action has dropped off of late. I don't know- would adding more people complicate things further, or revitalise the conflict?
Anyway, threads such as this: http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=72881&highlight=
this:
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=73146&highlight=
this:
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=68006&highlight=
And I can't be bothered rooting out the rest .. are all relevent reading. I'm not the dictatorial voice of the affair, mind.
OOC: understood. Maybe another time.

-dramatic sigh-

Run along, Kevin. Back to your own time period, and your own dimension in which war is declared for fun, and nobody completes the Antananarivo Project ahead of scheduel especially for you.

The fleet is on its way. The Armed Republic of Rhubarbs has also expressed its interest in sending a fleet to help.

I am waiting to here from Der Kriegsmarine.

Sincerely yours,

ooc: Maybe you could enligthen :idea: your allies. :wink:

I am not sure as to what your sramatic sigh is about. The fleet I mentioned are real life ships. I don't believe in the BS thats available or supposively available.

The Carrier is Russian

The Subs are Russian

Battle Ships are Japanease

Missile Ships are American.

Still awiting response from Der Krioegsmarine.

I am not sure as to what your sramatic sigh is about. The fleet I mentioned are real life ships. I don't believe in the BS thats available or supposively available.

The Carrier is Russian

The Subs are Russian

Battle Ships are Japanease

Missile Ships are American.

Still awiting response from Der Krioegsmarine.

This is WWII tech, no Missile ships here.

Ahh, I see, well in that case, perhaps I can't help.

Can I watch though? This should be interesting.

Ahh, I see, well in that case, perhaps I can't help.

Can I watch though? This should be interesting.

If you want to spectate, no problems there. Anyone's welcome to watch. But like Wos and Agrigento said, no advanced tech.
And WoS, just wait untill Kaiser Wilhelm II makes her maiden voyage. I'm sure she'll be my nation's Bismarck, only extra tragic!

OOC: If I dub down my tech to your level is it alright if I act as a neutral (for now) observer. Shouldn't be too hard, just a couple changes in aramament and horse power.

The Empire of Roycelandia is adopting a position of Armed Neutrality in this matter, and shall remain out of it until such time as we are attacked.

Then we're going to get 13th Century on your asses... :lol:

OOC: Getting involved at this stage is just too messy- unless someone "accidentally" fires at one of our aircraft...

OOC: If I dub down my tech to your level is it alright if I act as a neutral (for now) observer. Shouldn't be too hard, just a couple changes in aramament and horse power.

It would depend on whether any one else had any objections. I'll wait untill the others give their opinions, but I guess I personally wouldn't have a problem with it.

The Empire of Roycelandia is adopting a position of Armed Neutrality in this matter, and shall remain out of it until such time as we are attacked.

Then we're going to get 13th Century on your asses... :lol:

OOC: Getting involved at this stage is just too messy- unless someone "accidentally" fires at one of our aircraft...

Just make sure your pilots don't "accidentally" fly through any anti-aircraft fire, and you should be fine. :wink:

The reports received by the Pouliotan government were alarming.
Everyone tried to talk at the same time, as usual.

A tall man stood up, forcing silence into the room:
-Listen to me! All of you! Pretty soon, the east atlantic is very likely to become a huge battlefield. This is, obviously, not good for trade. Access to major ports are likely to be cut off. We need suggestions... anyone?

A short, hairy man opened is mouth:
- Convoys? Other nations proved that convoys with escorts are effectives ways to protect merchant vessels. We could try that.
- That sounds great, but there's one slight problem....
- That would be....?
- We're not at war.

After a lenghty debate, they decided to issue a new directive:

Directive 16-B-7:
All ships going to dangerous locations(dangerous location are listed in Appendix B-3) are to be paired with another merchant vessel. All non-necessary personnel(passagers) are forbidden to be on a ship going to a dangerous location(dangerous location are listed in Appendix B-3)...........(another 2 pages of official gibberish).

Here's some info about Pouliot:

Trading partners: Walmington on Sea, Canada, Us(mainly West Coast),
Minor trading partners: Ireland, Mexico, Brasil,Spain.

Main Pouliotan Import&Exports:
Exports: Iron, Copper, Timber, Fish, Alcohol
Imports: Coal,Tourists, Wool and Cotton, precious metals

Trading partners: Walmington on Sea, Canada, Us(mainly West Coast),
Minor trading partners: Ireland, Mexico, Brasil,Spain.

If you're engaged in trade with WoS and Canada, you would have probably already been faced with your ships being stopped and searched by U-boats in the mid to eastern Atlantic. At the outset of the war, the German government issued a general warning that any merchant vessel bound for Britain, WoS, and any of the other nations at war with us would be subject to search and seizure by the Kriegsmarine. Vessels will either be ordered back to their ports of origin, evacuated and sunk, or taken as prizes, depending on where they were intercepted. So consider this your warning, I guess; no more trade with WoS, unless you're willing to run this risk.

News of increased Kriegsmarine activity was barely recieved by Ianapalis, which was deep in increased political strife surrounding the general elections. After all, the Admiralty - beyond the Lords concern for their own jobs under a potentially new administration - was most concernced about the precarious balance in the South China Sea and around Fort Manly. For long had the Company fortifications on Batam been considered the lynchpin of Iansislean defense on the vital Iansisle-Gallaga route, but now certain officials wondered if they may prove to be the Maginot Line of the East.

In the meantime, a powerful convoy of ships skirted the coast of Iansislean Sarawak - they included, among others the battleships Colossus, flagship for Admiral Sir Daniel Reed, and Gargantuan, both of which were fresh off their sea trials, and the brand new mobile aeroflyer dock Augsburg, which hadn't had time to complete her seatrials. Rounding out the powerful force was the battlecruiser King Ian V, two new heavy cruisers, and nearly a dozen Tiger and Protector class destroyers drawn from the Home Fleet. At the center of the formation were the newest R.I.A.C. units, fresh off training in Dianatran and 20,000 strong.

They were to meet up with the rest of a joint Iansisle-Company strike force in Nusheld, where they would be joined by the Bay of Bengal fleet, 15,000 veteran R.I.A.C. regulars, and 60,000 Company sepoys in preperation for what the High Command termed 'Operation Honor Bound'. Just what Honor Bound consisted of, and where its clumsy but none the less weight blow should fall remained the subject of immense debate among the common soldiers.

However, it soon was proven that rushing Augsburg to completion was a very bad idea. Off the northern coast of Borneo, the brand new carrier pulled up lame with an improperly aligned turbine. The problem was compounded by the high speeds the convoy had been maintaining, often close to twenty-five knots. She managed to limp into Port Laughlin, but the shipwrights there would not commit to any repair time table.

The Admiralty knew Operation Honor Bound could not succede without naval airpower, but Galloquoi was under Allied command half a world away, and Salvador could not be detached from Admiral Rice's South China Sea fleet. Initial reports of Honor Bound had been kept secret even from Walmington on Sea and Calarca (though numerous dispatches to Britain had been reported). With the poor state of Iansislean security, every new person told was an enormous risk to the secrecy of the plan, but to keep Honor Bound on schedule, there was only one solution. The Admiralty made ready to contact Great Walmington

EDIT: Oh dear. I could have sworn WoS had a carrier or two at Ceyloba...hmm. I must say this changes my plans a tad!

ooc:We do have one- HMWS Newry. She's listed as 95% complete, but frankly she's been under construction since I don't know when, and even Ceyloba's unproven ship-building capacity really ought to be done with her by now. I am supposing that the yard's youth has made lengthy trials necessary or something. Sadly, she is only of Sparrow Class, with a wooden deck, top speed of 19kts and range of less than 8,500nm at that rate, and an air wing of up to 22 aircraft at most. Mainly she's meant to carry Swordfish and Wasp II biplanes for ASW operation- she was only built in Ceyloba because of a need to increase production in our relatively tiny navy, and not because she's really ideally deployed out there. A questionable choice, sure enough. It would probably have made sense to build light cruisers or something out there, but you try telling Great Walmington.
I'm trying to figure out if it is viable to launch Nexus fighters from a 504' deck.
We'd be glad to deploy her with the Iansislian force if possible.. we want her out of Ceyloba and being useful anyway.

Here are the revised dubbed down ships I'd be using. If I missed anything in the revisions, please feel free to tell me.


Franklin class light cruiser- Relatively small, it is fast, and heavily armed for its size. The Franklin class light cruiser is designed primarily for AA duty, but is well suited for everything from escort duty to sub hunting to shore bombardment. It is also more than capable of taking on larger and more heavily armed warships if the situation should require it.

Weapons-
1) Sixteen 5 in. dual-purpose guns mounted in eight twin turrets (Each gun is capable of over twenty rounds a minute for a total of over three-hundred-twenty rounds a minute).
2) Twenty-five quad 20mm anti-aircraft cannon, 10 double 20mm anti-aircraft cannon.
3) Fifteen Dual 40mm anti-aircraft cannon, Twelve single mount 40mm cannon
4) Four 21 in torpedo tubes.
5) Two depth charge racks and four depth charge throwers.

Equipment-
1. Active/Passive sonar .
2. Air and surface radar systems (Including advanced gunnery radar).
3. Radar detection system (Used to detect enemy radar).
4. Twin rudders for rapid, tight turns.
5. 196,000 hp engines with twin screws that are capable of propelling the ship at well over Forty knots.
6. A double hull, each with 6 in of armor plating.
7. Heavy compartmentalization allows the ship to keep fighting even with heavy damage.
8. Smoke screen generator.

Raptor Nest class aircraft carrier- Designed to provide cover for naval operations in far reaching theaters the Raptor Nest aircraft carrier is a small seaborne airbase.

1. Aircraft capacity- 105 aircraft, usually a mixture of F4F Wildcats, TBF Avengers, and SBD Dauntlesses
2. 300,000 hp engines and triple screws are capable of propelling the ship at over thirty-three knots.
3. Air and surface radar systems.
4. Radar detection system (Used to detect enemy radar).
5. Armored flight deck (8in armor plating.)
6. Fifteen DP 5in cannon
7. Thirty quad 20mm anti-aircraft cannon, 12 double 20mm anti-aircraft cannon.
8. Twenty Dual 40mm anti-aircraft cannon, Twelve single mount 40mm cannon
9. Active/Passive sonar.
10. Heavy compartmentalization allows the ship to keep fighting even with heavy damage.


Nurse Shark Coastal Patrol/Light Escort Vessel- The Nurse Shark was developed to patrol Grimdale’s coastal waters and go where larger vessels like the Franklin class cruiser couldn’t reach due to their deep drafts. Used mainly for anti smuggling duties, and coastal shipping management and emergencies, in time of war the Nurse Shark can be used for light patrol and escort duties. Despite it’s small size the Nurse Shark still carries a hefty bite for a small ship. The Grimdalian Coast Guard uses the Nurse Shark extensively.

Weapons-
1) Three 5in DP single turrets.
2) Three 20mm anti-aircraft cannon
3) Two 40mm anti-aircraft cannon
4) Two depth charge racks and four depth charge throwers.

Equipment-
1. Active/Passive sonar
2. Air and surface radar systems
3. Radar detection system (Used to detect enemy radar).
4. Triple rudders for rapid, tight turns.
5. 60,000 hp engines with twin screws that are capable of propelling the ship at thirty knots.
8. Low draft hull
9. Extensive fire fighting equipment, including three high-pressure water pumps
10. Roll proof engineering means that the ship will always roll upright, even if filled with water.


Flying Dutchman Deep Water Rescue and Escort Vessel- The Flying Dutchman is a larger version of the Nurse Shark designed with a deeper draft and more extensive deep-water capabilities. Being larger vessels, ships of the Flying Dutchman class are more heavily armed than their smaller counterparts and are used by the Grimdalian Coast Guard for deepwater patrolling, interdiction and rescue. Specifically the Flying Dutchman class was designed to operate in even the heaviest storms in order to be able to go to the rescue of disabled vessels.

Weapons-
1) Six 5in DP single turrets.
2) Six 20mm anti-aircraft cannon
3) Four 40mm anti-aircraft cannon
4) Two depth charge racks and four depth charge throwers.
5) Triple 21in Torpedo tubes

Equipment-
1. Active/Passive sonar
2. Air and surface radar systems
3. Radar detection system (Used to detect enemy radar).
4. Triple rudders for rapid, tight turns.
5. 85,000 hp engines with twin screws that are capable of propelling the ship at thirty-three knots.
8. Deep draft hull
9. Extensive fire fighting equipment, including six high-pressure water pumps
10. Roll proof engineering means that the ship will always roll upright, even if filled with water.

John Barker, old sailor and respected ship-owner, turned the radio on.

Radio: And now, a message from the government.

-Due to recent events, all trade going to and from Canada and Walmington on sea, is ordered to stop. This is a temporary measure that the government will try to sort out as quickly as possible.

Barker started to talk to himself:

-Ah! I'll be damned if they stop me from trading with the Walmington! It's like telling me to stop making profits! Nonsense!

[occ?]
The people of Pouliot have been traders for centuries, they take the right to go wherever they want for granted. Most will listen to the government... but some are a little bit sttuborn when it comes to limiting the ways to make money.

I'd say all shipping going to Canada and Walminton is down by about 90-95%.

OOC: I'm going to assume that if there have been no objections to my joining so far, that there aren't any.

IC: Admiral Marcus Redbay looked out over the choppy Atlantic waters at his small fleet. Continued reports of hostilities in the area had resulted in the fleet being dispatched. Unfortinately the navy had been spread rather thin when the need to suddenly deploy another fleet had arrisen. The 47th fleet consisted of everything that was availible at the time. Two Raptor's nest class Carriers, seventeen cruisers Franklin class crusiers, six Flying Dutchman Frigates, and even four Nurse Shark Corvettes intended for coastal patrol. A ragtag supply fleet had also been scraped up. All in all, hardly a force that could be expected to execute his orders to protect all Grimdalian merchant shipping in the entire Atlantic from any country, add to that the need to stay strictly neutral, and the mission nearly became impossible.

((Walmington, Im just going to say Hvan controls Colombia now, just to move along international affairs))

The 47th fleet consisted of everything that was availible at the time. Two Raptor's nest class Carriers, seventeen cruisers Franklin class crusiers, six Flying Dutchman Frigates, and even four Nurse Shark Corvettes intended for coastal patrol.

Are you sure? This is kind of a lot... You don't use your real population and economy.

The 47th fleet consisted of everything that was availible at the time. Two Raptor's nest class Carriers, seventeen cruisers Franklin class crusiers, six Flying Dutchman Frigates, and even four Nurse Shark Corvettes intended for coastal patrol.

Are you sure? This is kind of a lot... You don't use your real population and economy.

OOC: Sir, I rank 18th in my region for military power, in a region where three of the countires are in the top ten world wide. I have close to 1.5 billion people. My normal economy rating is Powerhouse. Normally I can call three or four fleets to any inicident within a week's time. So do you still care to say that I'm not using my real population and economy? Because if you do, you'd be right, I'm dubbing it down a lot.

This is a closed WWII RP, please stop spamming.

(Well, I wouldn't go so far as to say it's closed, but it certainly is restricted.

It's restricted in that every major power in this war has a detailed backhistory - Iansisle, Walmington on Sea, and Ercolana (Agrigento) through the Scramble for Gallaga thread; Der Kriegsmarine and Chiang Mai through some darn fine RPing that we could fit into our world. Hvan (Artitsa) got to join midstream because of some darn good reccomendations and the fact he was willing to play a marginal power to join.

Really, I'd have to say I don't see another major power joining the RP as healthy. Already, the Allies have had to alienate the United States and the Axis remove the section of Hitler's brain that made him want to go after the Soviet Union to make it fair. If you're willing to play a regional power somewhere - South America may be best, to interact with Hvan - that'd be fine, provided you can give us a convincing backstory and make us sure of your commitment.

As it stands:

The map - Essentially the real world, with the addition of a large continent off Marcus Island in the west pacific, a large island near the Azores, and another large island west of Britain in the east atlantic.

If you hear anyone refer to Gallaga, they actually mean 'India.' In similar fashion, any word or phrase derived from India has Gallaga substituted (ie: Galla-China, Gallanesia, the Gallagan Ocean). Ceyloba is actually Ceylon, though it isn't a direct copy.

OOC: A challenge for my writing skills, excellent. And as for my willingness to stick it out for the long run, nine times out of ten I'm the last person to post in a thread, I'm currently involved in one that's been going on for almost a month if you need even more proof. If the place I picked is already taken please inform me. Note that this entirerly made up due to the fact my real country is situated on the northeastern coast of North America.

IC: Grimdale is located on the southeast coast of Africa, a nation with a strong military history it tends to keep to itself as far as foriegn affairs go. However Grimdale does have a very large Merchant marine that trades extensively around the world. Because of this Grimdale has concentrated heavily on improving and expanding her navy. Some years ago due to some fancy diplomacy, Grimdale managed to aquire basing rights in Iceland. Still a heavily debated topic, the government is only able to station minimal forces there due to public opinon.

OOC: I hate to be a bother, but has this thread died or has it been moved elsewhere?

Originally, this was just to let the concerned parties (Iansisle, WoS, Agrigento, ect.) know what was going on with my forces. I didn't really intend to start a whole other thread for any kind of RP situation; check out the North Africa thread or (to a lesser extent) the Deutschland one for that.