NationStates Jolt Archive


War with Gustavus

11-12-2003, 19:52
The nations of the Gustavus region are shaming the name of Gustavus Adolphus Principality. The Regalia and the nations composing of it hereby do declare war on all the members of the Gustavus region, and will be sending nations to take the region over.
11-12-2003, 22:23
Veladnia has now moved 250,000 units into the Gustavus region and is preparing for strikes.
11-12-2003, 22:34
As the Representative of the Regalia, I will send a joint force of 500,000 troops, consisting of Maldictian troops and troops from FuqHankToutain to the Gustavian region.
North Germania
12-12-2003, 00:18
Why are you declaring war?
North Germania
12-12-2003, 00:22
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North Germania
12-12-2003, 00:22
I'll be watching this thread.
12-12-2003, 05:55
Germania, watching this thread, for what? Get out of our business.
12-12-2003, 06:37
The nations of Regalia have declared war for the reasons that Maldictus stated at the beginning of this thread. For myself, the region of Gustavus's existence alone is a problem that needs correction, or supervision. They, of a region of seven nations, have two UN members, and thus need the guidance of a powerful and strong leader. We are here to provide that leader, since they do not appear to have the initiative.
North Germania
12-12-2003, 07:09
The nations of the Gustavus region are shaming the name of Gustavus Adolphus Principality. The Regalia and the nations composing of it hereby do declare war on all the members of the Gustavus region, and will be sending nations to take the region over.

From my point of view, there is nothing in that statement which explains why you are going to war. "The nations of the Gustavus region are shaming the name of Gustavus Adolphus Principality."

In what way? And how is "shaming" Gustavus Adolphus Principality any form of rational reason to declare war on someone? And exactly what kind of "strong leadership" are a couple of December nations? It is not wise to take hostile actions against other nations without sound or at least just reason.

Furthermore, "Get out of our business" is not a very polite way to address fellow nations. Especially in an open forum. If I were to have barged in on a closed RP, perhaps so. But please note, you never stated it was closed.

- North Germania
12-12-2003, 07:21
[OOC] this thread is not closed, however it is our belief that this is between the regions of Regalia and Gustavus.

[IC] They pretend to be representing Gustavus, and we have issues with that, as we believe they wrongly represent Gustavus. If you would explain what a "December Nation" is, perhaps I would respond with saying you should take care to not make yourself a target, if it is what I think it is. We believe that we have every reason to correct the wrongful representation issue, and we are providing them with strong leadership, as I said. People have, time and time again, shown that they need guidance and leadership. We are here to provide that for them, since their region does not seem to have that. "Get out of our business" implies that you are an outsider looking in, and thus have no reason to get involved, as we do not plan on expanding our empire, merely correcting a problem.
12-12-2003, 07:30
Just because it is open does not mean you need to play mother and "monitor" this thread. December nations, eh? All nations were new once. So was yours, at a point. Both regions are new, therefore we MAY provide the strong leadership they are lacking. What is more, the Regalia and Gustavus are close geographically to each other; therefore, there is a kinship between our regions that you would not understand. What may not seem rational to an outsider can be perfectly clear to someone involved with a conflict. Stop acting like an arrogant nation. If you want to help, suggest some solutions. If not, then you really have no place here. Furthermore, you are a far worse dictatorship than we are. Who are you to judge us?

As for politeness, condescendingly saying you'll be monitoring us is far less polite than our region telling you to stay out of a conflict you know nothing about.
12-12-2003, 07:38
I fully support the ideas set forth by the Borderlands of Akuma no Ie and the Armed Republic of Maldictus
North Germania
12-12-2003, 09:09
Well, excuse me, Maldictus, but when did I ever say anything about "monitoring" the situation? All I said was that I was going to be watching. I actually couldn't care less about what you and your allies decide to do with your nation. The problem herein was created by your presumptuous attitude and rude comments.

As for accusing you of being dictatorial, when did the topic of a dictatorship ever come about? I merely asked for the reasons for the war. I respect the sovereignty and statehood of you and your allies' respective nations. Do what you will.

Akuma no Ie: I thank you for the information, as it was all I wanted to know. Though I would take care to consider who I threatened if I were in your position. And exactly a target for what?

- North Germania
North Germania
12-12-2003, 09:29
I have spoken with your ally Veladnia, and offered my apologies to both him/her and the rest of you. As a sign of goodwill, and if you need any military equipment, I will extend a 15% discount on the first four orders. I hope that we can form terms of peace, and a possible alliance.

- North Germania
12-12-2003, 09:32
Ok, so now that the forum was utterly destroyed by this discussion, allow me to describe what has happened:

750,000 units have moved toward and are in Gustavus region, 250,000 of those units are from Veladnia, the other 500,000 are from the nation of Maldictus. Also, a number of other nations from Regalia have moved into the Gustavian territory, including Warmongaria. This is the setup for the entire conflict. It would be greatly appreciated if these postings were not wrenched from their initial intent. Thankyou,


-Velius Stradt,
King of Veladnia
12-12-2003, 09:50
At 9am in the moarning in both nations a plane from the The Frederation of Free Land owners touched down in the respective capitals. From each plane came a small diplomatic envoy.

They arrived to to negotiate peace but for two other reasons:
1) To sell arms to either side for cut priced costs
2) To take money and other valubles and put them into safe keeping in the mountain volts we can offer, for the duration of the war. (Like swiss banks really)

No contract is draw up, and the ambassadors have the power to draw up contracts with out reference back to the High counciler.

If you should wish to negotiate a deal for eaither points then we may do so. If not the ambasadors will leave immdeiatley
12-12-2003, 17:24
As founder of the region of gustavus, allow me to relate my disgust towards the declaration of war on my region. There is no assumption of representing the entire population of gustavus in the naming of my region. It was more or less a lack of imagination. I also have a lack of desire to participate in war, and have full control of memberships in my region. We are a peaceful region, with no need for war, or discontent nations.

~ZeNation
12-12-2003, 17:28
Because North Germania seems to be a Right-Wing Capitalist State, the Empire of Kevin Land will hereby take a similar stance to that of North Germania.

If North Germania enters the War we are willing to send both economic and military aid as well as us entering the war too.
12-12-2003, 19:15
ZeNation, as the founder of a region, perhaps you see it in the best possible perspective. However, you say you have full control of membership in your region, and that you do not appreciate discontent nations. What would happen if you have a disagreement with a country in your nation? Would you ask them to leave?
Leaders should be the strongest person in the nation, willing, but not eager, to go to war, should the need arise. I believe that from what my intelligence has shown me, your region lacks strong leadership, and so we are here to provide that.

Most of my army has moved into an occupying position in a region of Gustavus, and we have endorsed a new, stronger, leader, in the form of Warmongaria. The leader of said country shall provide the guidance for the whole region.
14-12-2003, 07:51
Because of the lack of resistance, Veladnia removes the 250,000 units from the region of Gustavus with some reluctancy. King Stradt does however offer his support in case "issues" arise later in this campaign.
Doujin
14-12-2003, 08:13
Flash alert to all Doujinishi forces
Military Status: Orange

Orders: Mobilize and prepare for combat

Prepare to defend ZeNation and region Gustavas from invasion by rogue nations.

Activating the 1st Army Group
Directive: Mobilize and prepare for international conflict
16-12-2003, 01:13
Curses, foiled again! (double post)
16-12-2003, 01:14
Doujin, you have my condolences. We have already invaded Gustavus, redirected the leadership, and seized power. We appointed Warmongaria the leader, and under the new leadership the countries in said region noticed improvements. The former leadership has now been restored to power, and has made movements to become a stronger leader, and provide the guidance needed. Also, we are not "Rogue Nations," we are Regalia. Before you commit to an action, why not take some time to understand the motives behind it, rather than rush blindly into something? We have stated our reasons, and if you disagree with them, then so be it.

"And the world shall be shrouded in darkness."