NationStates Jolt Archive

I come to this forum in seeking a resolution to a complex issue that has arisen.

Two nations in the Southeast Atlantic region have taken issue with the idealogical foundations of a nation that is new to the region. This region has an agreement between nations that each nation is sovereign and rightfully allowed to be free from interference from other nations in the region in domestic policy and matters.

The nations of Woogchovia and The Holy Empire of Oneida have taken issue with the idealogy of The Protectorate of Skiptaria and are preparing to go to war, as they object Skiptaria's continued presence in the region.

As UN Delegate for the region I have notified both Woogchovia and Oneida that I am fully supportive of Skiptaria's sovereign rights as a nation, and oppose aggression on the grounds of idealogical difference.

Be it known that The Dominion of Zachthemangia is preparing to go to war in response to the aggression of Woogchovia and . Aggression on Skiptaria is aggression on the Region and will not be tolerated.

That can blow up at any moment why dont they want this new nation in the region ?

As I am in constant fear of being taken over by the great and powerful ZachtheMangia, I must follow his lead and support him as our UN delegate. If my country can be of any assistance (human shields, for instance), let it be known that we support Skiptaria.

You shouldint be in fear of any one ... but if a small contrys getting bullied count me in as a supporter.

Our country, ZachtheMangia is neither large nor powerful, however we have a vested interested in protecting the sovereinty of the nations in the region. It is for this reason we have chosen to support Skiptaria in whatever way possible.

In truth it is the rest of the region that lay in fear of both Woogchovia and Oneida that wish to obliterate any nation with contrary idealogy.

Let all nations stand.

i am afraid that this situation is being mis portrayed. A smaller nation is not being bullied for if it were being bullied we'd be asking for it's removal. that was assumed. we are not looking for a remval but an end to a problem. Just to clear that up. we are not bullying a nation. And to Ryvvn... the "all powerfull zachthemangia" is smaller than the nation of woogchovia... you should not support those you fear... especially ones you have no reason to fear. Come.. join us and you shall no longer have to fear.

Lord John

Take in consideratio nthis small contry in the middle off all of this .. how do you think they feel with these larger nations fighrting over it i fear you people have hidden adgendas to make it a puppet state.

I say let Woogchovia and Onedia Invade and split the Country in two.
The strong will survive while the weak will die out.
Surely Woogchovia cannot let this Region wide nation establishment happen.
Let Woogchovia and Onedia do what they wish. I support them in any way they need.

If they do that the fedral union will step in . and intervine on behalf of the small nation in the middle .

I say let Woogchovia and Onedia Invade and split the Country in two.
The strong will survive while the weak will die out.
Surely Woogchovia cannot let this Region wide nation establishment happen.
Let Woogchovia and Onedia do what they wish. I support them in any way they need.


Thank you, I appreciate the support joining us is the right way. i applaud you and all that share you're beliefs... come friends.. Join us !!!

Let the small Nation be consumed!
It shouldnt stand in the way of such larger stronger Nations.

Peace is generally the best way. Just let them stay.

Let it be known to all whom it may concern, that The Fortified Islands of Squornshelous support Skiptaria in this matter. Despite our oppressive government policy, we belive that all nations are sovreign to conduct their internal policy as they wish, without any interference from other nations.

Woogchovia ,anb Kamrad Stalin My nation is warining you ...
you attempt any agresstion and the Fedral Union will step in.

Let it be known to all whom it may concern, that The Fortified Islands of Squornshelous support Skiptaria in this matter. Despite our oppressive government policy, we belive that all nations are sovreign to conduct their internal policy as they wish, without any interference from other nations.


How can you support something that goes against what you stand for? maybe you should rethink and join us. This isn't about a smaller nation against a larger nations. if that were so i would run in fear of more nations joining the side of him. This is more

This situation can be completely avioded without bloodshed, just let the small country move itself to anohter region, or even kick the nation out of the region. If hostile actions take place, you may see Ardorian troops fighting.

Well i got to go for the night its late hear ill post on hear tomrow Im giveing you a warining you attack this small nation and the fedral union will send in troops good night to you all .

Hey Federal Union Back off.
You have a pitiful population of 157 Million and a Strong Economy.
Where as I have 1.167 Billion People and Frightening Economy.
I warn you....To stay out of this or join in support of us.

You dont intmadate me i have power full allies . varry power full that are bigger and more power full than you . Now im must take my leave . good night .

If you are insistant on taking him over, do not do so wiht open warfare. You should take over his corporations and place your own figurhead on top of thier command. If you do that, you will avoid bloodshed and open war.

Let it be known to all whom it may concern, that The Fortified Islands of Squornshelous support Skiptaria in this matter. Despite our oppressive government policy, we belive that all nations are sovreign to conduct their internal policy as they wish, without any interference from other nations.


How can you support something that goes against what you stand for? maybe you should rethink and join us. This isn't about a smaller nation against a larger nations. if that were so i would run in fear of more nations joining the side of him. This is more

Even though we may not agree with Skiptaria's government policy, we are strong believers in, hmm, how to put this, "not f-ing around in other peoples business". This is exactly what you're doing. Let the Skiptarian government run its nation the way it wants to.

Also Federal your Military size is a maximum of 7 Million 850 thousand
Where as mine consists of 58 Million 350 Thousand.
I would roll over your nation so fast....you wouldnt know what happened.

please... do not let this be a size competition. this is not why this was started. thank you for your support kamrad stallin and i do hope you wish to continue. let us keep this as non violent as possible for now and untill it escalates. then we will see if forceful action is neccisary. We shall win because what we stand for is right. the rule of people as we see fit.

don't flex your muscles too much CS. . .

I would suggest that you Kremlin Stalin back off as well, seeing as i would have several key advantages and i would be back by several nations the size of myself.

Ardor i appreciate your seeming wisdom in the matter. you make valid points but i do not wish for the removal of this nation from the south east atlantic region.

Also Federal your Military size is a maximum of 7 Million 850 thousand
Where as mine consists of 58 Million 350 Thousand.
I would roll over your nation so fast....you wouldnt know what happened.

Jsut a point, those 58 million troops would be trained to the quality of that of something like a 19 year old boy wiht 2 weeks training, even with the frightening economy. And your equipment costs would bankrupt you if you even dared to send that many troops.

Ardor i appreciate your seeming wisdom in the matter. you make valid points but i do not wish for the removal of this nation from the south east atlantic region.

Apologies, the first post of this topic ws somewhat misleading about your intentions. We will still intervene if the situation deteriorates to violence. Warfare should not be used to settle such petty disputes.

If the aggressors in this situation take any military action i will be forced to intervine, and that most of you will not like.

My Army Consists of mostly conscripts true.
But they have more training than a 2 week training.
Everyman is required to join either the Army,Navy,or Airforce at the age of 18 and serve for 2 years in Army,and Air force,or 3 years in the Navy.
They then are removed from duty and are placed on Call.
Operational Military strength sits at 17 Million. Anytime I wish I can call up the Conscripts on call and Greatly increase my Military's strength.
Everything in my nation is State run. Therefore costs of moving and supplying my troops would cost very little.

We are supportive not only of Skiptaria's domestic policy, but of the ideals of national sovereignty, as well.

As such, we will support this nation in it's struggle to exist.

As I can no longer closely monitor this situation, I would like to ask Skiptaria, Federal Union, Ardor or anyone else supporting Skiptaria to please notify me if the situation becomes violent.

Kamrad stalin, if what you say is true, then you would have the ability to field that many people, but, the training in degree compared to my reserve army as well as the regulars would pale in comparison. At such my reugular army sits at 8 million troops, but every single one of them is trained to that degree of the current RL Green Barret. As well the reserve call up consists of roughly 22 million troops all trained as though of the RL US. Rangers. And The budget difference is great. My economy grants my budget each year arounf 32 trillion dollars(not GDP, but budget), and roughly 10 trillion each year goes into my military.

Wooqchovia, you say you have been misrepresented about your stance on Skiptaria. Perhaps if you fully explained your position...

ellbownia i am going to return tommorow with a stance i must depart for the night. i have important documents that need to be written (out of character.... music therapy final) that wil determine the legislative state of my nation.

Let it be known:

Woogchovia and Zachthemangia have chosen to temporarily table discussion in an effort to slow the rapid escalation of this unfortunate position.

We both have agreed to remain silent as to our positions and will not release further official statments until 19:00 EST on December 9, 2003.


Mutually Respectful,

High Exulted Potentate of The Dominion ZachTheMangia
Lord John of The Dominion of Woogchovia

The Premier of Happy Baseball Fans supports Skiptariia's rights to exist and self determination. We would look unfavorably upon any who take direct action against Skiptaria and will support the nation of Skiptaria and its allies in fighting for its right to exist.

I dont know why they want this nation destroyed so badly ...its wrong the fedral union Will help Skiptariia .

Let it be known here and now that anyone apposing Skiptaria and our right to exist peacefully will be met with fierce opposition from Skiptaria's people. We have worked and died to make this country what it is today and will not have neighboring counties bully us over ideological differences. We have worked for what we own therefore we have earned it. None of us are better than the others so making war against us would be making war against yourself.

There is no reason we cannot live harmoniously and trade goods and knowledge and co-exist even with our ideological differences. I say now that we strike a treaty to forge a new bond within our region.

If this treaty is denied however and an offense is launched against Skiptaria then expect a fight, we will not roll over and give away what we have rightfully earned.

Skiptaria's Leader and People have spoken.

Trusted Overseer Skip McDoogle & People of the Protectorate Skiptaria.

A fierce resistance by 8 million people?
Ha! My nations army is fully behind Woogchovia.
If your war-mongering nation attacks him I will invade you.

A fierce resistance by 8 million people?
Ha! My nations army is fully behind Woogchovia.
If your war-mongering nation attacks him I will invade you.

As Oniedia's leader and man closest to God I feel that most of these countries are missing the point of this issue and the threat of it...
It has nothing to do with soveriegnty or strength of military the issue is what God wants and what he wants is known only by me. Therefore Eguality can not and will not stand with the eyes of God upon it. His hammer of justice shall fall and smite any country that is an abomination and supports the Blaphemous country of Skiptaria. Oniedia doesn't want to destroy Skiptaria because it's smaller than us or because we can, but to keep my people worring about an imaginary war so i can carry out God's will with little to no resistance...wait no,ignore that, to smite those who oppose God's will.
So to all those who support Oniedia and Woogchovia you're fighting in the name of God and therefore there is no way we can lose. No army no matter how large or how well trained or how much equipment it has can defeat God.


Pope Tim, Ruler of Oniedia.

A fierce resistance by 8 million people?
Ha! My nations army is fully behind Woogchovia.
If your war-mongering nation attacks him I will invade you.

War-mongering? Have you not noticed Skiptaria's plea for some sanity? His ideal of peaceful coexistance hardly screams out for blood. Any aggresive action made upon this nation will be met with force.

Woogchovia, Oniedia, Skiptaria and Zachthemangia have chosen to temporarily table discussion in an effort to slow the rapid escalation of this unfortunate position.

We all have agreed to remain silent as to our positions and will not release further official statments until 19:00 EST on December 10, 2003.


Mutually Respectful,

High Exulted Potentate of The Dominion ZachTheMangia
Pope Tim Messanger of God and ruler of Oniedia
Lord John of The Dominion of Woogchovia
Trusted Overseer Skip McDoogle & People of the Protectorate Skiptaria.

War-mongering? Have you not noticed Skiptaria's plea for some sanity? His ideal of peaceful coexistance hardly screams out for blood. Any aggresive action made upon this nation will be met with force.

well said. We await developments and will stand with Skiptaria and its allies in its just fight for survival.

Gentlemen,
I emplore you to please seek a peacefull resolution to your mutual issues. It seems that all concerned are far too ready to sacrifice thier brave servicemen over a pointless locking of horns.
Lybrant has a few dozen aircraft posted in both Woogchovia and Oniedia military bases, which we use to track naval vessels headed towards Praetoria. It will take several days to refit the crafts (they have had thier weapondry removed to dampen the effects of any international incidents resulting from thier recon sorties) and fly them home. We shall prepare the aircraft to leave the region, but will refrain from doing so until a formal declaration of war is posted in the hopes that these multi-million dollar non-enemy targets will prompt those who would pre-emptivly attack Lybrant's friends to reconsider.
And to Woogchovia and Oniedia, I publicly ask that you reconsider your courses of action. Surely there is a way we can avoid what this all appears to be headed towards...


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