NationStates Jolt Archive


National Defense Budget Negotiations

Whittier
08-12-2003, 15:54
The Whittier Joint Cheifs of Staff meet to discuss the distribution of the military's funds.
Total funds allocated to military by the national government: 524, 845,415,699 canali. (1 canali=1 US dollar, used to be worth alot more but it was devalued by civil war)
Troops: 1million x 60,000=60,000,000,000 canali
AK47s (all M16s are being eliminated): 1 million x 300=300,000,000 canali
subtotal: 60,300,000,000
WBI (Whittier Battle Island) Brezhnekov: 200,000,000,000
subtotal: 260,300,000,000
Pandora's Box: 50 billion
Subtotal: 310,300,000,000
Golden Dragon: 2 x 80 billion=160 billion
subtotal; 470,300,000,000

Secretary of Defense: We have 75,545,415,700
That's barely 75 billion.
I am ordering the navy to look into eliminating funding for battle island. Or find someway to bring the cost down. Otherwise, I am going to eliminate it and all aircraft carriers from this years funding.
Secretary of the Army: Can't we just ask for funding to be taken from education and welfare?

The Secretary of the Army proposes that since the battle island is never used, that we scrap funding for it. This will save 200 billion canali that can be used for more AK 47s.
The Secretary of the Air Force proposes to cut all naval funding so we can buy more Golden Dragons.
The Secretary of Space Forces proposes we eliminate fundnig for all the other branches and build more war satellites like Pandora's Box.
The Secretary of Nuclear Command: Our nukes haven't undergone maintenance for a year. We propose to use half the funds for the annual maintenance of our nuke arsenal.
The Secretary of the Navy: I say we eliminate space and nuke command.
We should also eliminate the army and the air force. What the heck do we need them for?
The Secretary of the Marine Corps: We will work with we can get, but we would like to have all these fancy toys everyone else is gettting.
Whittier
08-12-2003, 15:56
Anyone know how much aircraft carriers cost?
Whittier
08-12-2003, 15:59
Government accounting officer:
You are mistaken about your budget. You don't have 524 billion, you have 923 billion. You don't need to steal funds from the Education and Welfare Departments.
08-12-2003, 16:00
Anyone know how much aircraft carriers cost?


from one to two billion.
Whittier
08-12-2003, 16:02
Anyone know how much aircraft carriers cost?


from one to two billion.
Is that all?
Whittier
08-12-2003, 16:04
General Accounting Office message to the Joint Cheifs of Staff:
Your budget is unacceptable and filled with errors.
You are required to resubmit your budget with the necessary corrections.
Whittier
08-12-2003, 16:37
The Foreign Ministry with the permission of the Politburo and the Secretary General will assist the Ministry of Defense with outsourcing from other nations. This action is being considered so as to bring defense costs down.
Whittier
08-12-2003, 16:39
Member of Politburo: Why is it that all the stuff we build ourselves is costing us more than we would pay for similar items on the international market?

Defense: R&D costs.

Politburo Committee: We want the Depatment of Finance to determine what savings would be made by outsourcing internationally and how much we could make by selling battle island.
08-12-2003, 16:43
battle island? i am interested, tell me about it.
Whittier
08-12-2003, 16:52
battle island? i am interested, tell me about it.

It is very expensive as you can tell from our maintenance costs for it.
But it is a large manmade floating island that serves as a floating military base. You can aircraft on it and up to 100,000 troops or one division.
They are very huge things. But if they are hit, every one on it is endanger of dying as one hit would destroy the whole thing.
They are also very slow to move (they are selfpropelled).
Maximum speed is 2 -10 miles per hour.
We have not yet decided to sell. But we think you should know it is very expensive to build and maintain.
We are paying 200 bill to keep it maintained but it cost us ten times that much to build.
Whittier
08-12-2003, 16:54
08-12-2003, 16:55
it is a pretty useless thing then, i dont see why are you wasting so much money on it.
Whittier
08-12-2003, 16:59
it is a pretty useless thing then, i dont see why are you wasting so much money on it.
That is why the Politburo has ordered an investigation.
Whittier
08-12-2003, 19:01
The Ministry of Defense has resubmitted its budget to the Ministry of Finance.
Funds available: 923,068,464,967

Expenses for updated armed forces equipment and replacing old broken down equipment.

Infantry: 1 million x 120,000=120 billion
AK47s (all M16s are being sold to other nations):
1 mill x 300= 300 mill
M249 Squad Automatic Weapons: 250,000 x 3,000=750 mill

M1A2 (produced domestically) 5,000x3.5 mill = 17,500,000,000
M1A2 crews: 15,000x 60,000=900 mill

Air Medevac vehicles: 20,000 x 1.5 mill =30 bill

Ticonderoga Class Aircraft Carriers:
15 x 1.5 billion=22.5 billion
crew: 75,000 x $20,000=1.5 billion

Apache Attack Chopper:
5,000 x 16 mill=800mill
10k x 20k= 200 mill

F117 Stealth Fighter:
4,000 x 62 mill=248 bill
crew: 4,000 x 30,000=120 mill

B1Bombers:
1,000 x 50 mill= 50 billion

All of above are to be produced domestically.

We have purchased 3,000 KL 60 WASP Stealth Attack Choppers from the government of Geforce 4.
3,000 x 15 mill = 45 mill
crew not yet appropriated funding.

Total surplus after expenditures: 385,258,464,967 canali.
(one canali = one US Dollar)

Budget is being updated and updates will be delivered when they are ready.
Defense is still acquiring more weapons.
And wishes to propose a 150% pay raise for our troops.
Whittier
08-12-2003, 19:05
A 150% pay increase? Are you nuts!.
Why can't the military be happy with 30k per soldier?
Now they want 150k per soldier. This is unacceptable to the Politburu.
08-12-2003, 19:07
Am I the only who is greatly concerned about Whittier's high defense spending?
08-12-2003, 19:09
OOC: you might want to consider the f-117 you bought, they are 60's/70's technology crappy payload, no radar, well its pretty useless against.. well against anyone who isnt iraq :lol:
08-12-2003, 19:15
OOC: you might want to consider the f-117 you bought, they are 60's/70's technology crappy payload, no radar, well its pretty useless against.. well against anyone who isnt iraq :lol:
OOC: Iraq is pretty much the rest of the world isn't it?


the rest of the world got operational radars AWACS command and control etc.. iraq only got camels and ak-47s
08-12-2003, 19:16
OOC: you might want to consider the f-117 you bought, they are 60's/70's technology crappy payload, no radar, well its pretty useless against.. well against anyone who isnt iraq :lol:
OOC: Iraq is pretty much the rest of the world isn't it?


the rest of the world got operational radars AWACS command and control etc.. iraq only got camels and ak-47s
Can AWACS see stealth fighters?
08-12-2003, 19:18
yes, modern awacs can see them on radar, hell mig-31 can see it in 65- km.
Whittier
08-12-2003, 19:25
The Ministry of Defense reports that we currently have the following troop deployments:
250,000 in CommunistPoland
250,000 in Canales__
250,000 in Taliban-
77,000 in Letila.
The rest are at home in Whittier.
08-12-2003, 19:26
The Ministry of Defense reports that we currently have the following troop deployments:
250,000 in CommunistPoland
-


troop deployments? your at war with him or?..
Whittier
08-12-2003, 19:33
The Ministry of Defense reports that we currently have the following troop deployments:
250,000 in CommunistPoland
-


troop deployments? your at war with him or?..
No, they are allies we are there to defend.
We are leasing in base from Letila for about 30 billion a year.
It is in our interests to maintain to maintain a military presence in our allies to deter aggressors from attacking them.
We call it the trip wire strategy. They attack our ally. In the process our troops are attacked whether deliberately or inadvertently triggering Whittier's entry into the war on our allies side.
08-12-2003, 19:37
lol he already has 2 foreign bases :o (including mine)
Whittier
08-12-2003, 19:38
lol he already has 2 foreign bases :o (including mine)
Whose "he"?
08-12-2003, 19:40
lol he already has 2 foreign bases :o (including mine)
Whose "he"?


oops nvm, got confused with another communist nation :x
Whittier
08-12-2003, 19:41
We used to have bases on West Moon, in Naked Teenage Girls, Ukraine, Harrapa, and three I can't remember.
Had to abandon them though when proabortion seperatists started a civil war though at home though.
Whittier
08-12-2003, 19:47
lol he already has 2 foreign bases :o (including mine)
Whose "he"?


oops nvm, got confused with another communist nation :x
Communist Poland used to be an occupier but now they are the occupied. :lol:
08-12-2003, 20:08
_Neandertalia_ is cutting its defense budget and we are laying off some soldiers. Of course, we have no intention of hiring them back.
Whittier
08-12-2003, 20:13
_Neandertalia_ is cutting its defense budget and we are laying off some soldiers. Of course, we have no intention of hiring them back.
I remember having bases in your country a while back.
08-12-2003, 20:17
I have troops in _Kish and in Taliban-.
Whittier
08-12-2003, 21:42
Update to defense budget:
12 battleships: 24 billion
crew: 48 million

24 Aeigis Cruisers: 24 billion
crew: 10.32 million

1,275 F18 Hornets: 76.5 billion
crew: 38.25 million

1,000 F22 Raptors: 60 billion
crew:38.25 million

5 Golden Dragons 7.5 billion (worlds most advanced and most expensive war plane at 1.5 billion each.)

Overseas base leasing: 30 billion

Nuclear Arsenal maintenance: 163 billion
Whittier
08-12-2003, 21:42
Update to defense budget:
12 battleships: 24 billion
crew: 48 million

24 Aeigis Cruisers: 24 billion
crew: 10.32 million

1,275 F18 Hornets: 76.5 billion
crew: 38.25 million

1,000 F22 Raptors: 60 billion
crew:38.25 million

5 Golden Dragons 7.5 billion (worlds most advanced and most expensive war plane at 1.5 billion each.)

Overseas base leasing: 30 billion

Nuclear Arsenal maintenance: 163 billion
Whittier
10-12-2003, 15:34
200 M1A2s have been donated to a foriegn government.
Neandertalia
20-03-2004, 03:04
Whittier is this your military stats?
Forgot I dismantled my military.