NationStates Jolt Archive


War declared on The United City States of New Empire

08-12-2003, 15:37
We have assasins in the country of New Empire, poised to assasinate the New Empirian president. This is a pre-emptive strike, in defense of our allies. They will assist with this attack once your president has been killed.

La cosa Nostra,

Don Michael Corleone
Kajiraki
08-12-2003, 15:58
We will help our allies in New Empire should they request it. Simply ask for our assistance, and it will be yours. With honor

Empress Ryoko Kajiraki
Gorokistan
08-12-2003, 15:58
tag
08-12-2003, 16:35
your reason being.......?
The Imperial Navy
08-12-2003, 16:37
Please give us a reason justifying your attack or we shall defend New Empire from this act of warmongering.
Iuthia
08-12-2003, 17:25
OOC: You know, I have a pretty good plan on how best to stop this… Corleones do you know his Presidents name? Because if you don’t, how can you assassinate him… forgetting the fact that if you claimed to kill his President you would be calling damage, which is against the rules… so, in-depth will you explain how you are going to kill his President and then describe how you are doing it using some detailed RP. That’s how it is done, otherwise you will be ignored…

Oh and you said all that you were going to assassinate someone IC which allows me to do this.

IC:

Young nation, we have received your open communication regarding your wish to kill the president of New Empire and as such they have been warned and no doubt their leader is now in a secure location with trusted individuals.

Now for my part. Should you actually manage, through some kind of miracle I suppose, manage to kill the president of New Empire I will personally make a point of killing every member of your leadership and replacing them with others more friendly towards New Empire, our evaluation of your nations military assets shows you to be vastly inferior to our own and as such we have no doubt that we could do this with little trouble.

Your “statement” has earned out ire and as a result you will be forever condemned to our Black Listed Nations list where your trade will be banned from Iuthia and you shall be snubbed at every political function, should you attack New Empire or any other ally of mine you will find your national leadership changed… still your own but changed to something with some more brains.

Tell your people to leave now before they are found and killed, just hope they don’t succeed because I swear, you will hear us coming and your leadership will suffer.

Have a nice day,

Lord General deGritz, leader of Iuthia
08-12-2003, 18:16
President Delbayte of Shmur would like to know the reason for the war.
New Empire
08-12-2003, 22:11
[Statement from President Corinth Dleroes]
"So, I see once again there are threats against our nation. Tell me, Mr. Corleone, did you really think your piddling thugs could take me out? It takes more than that to destroy this nation. And your so called allies, who exactly are they? Or are they just some contractors, paying some quick cash to try and take us out? I'll let you know we survived a Presidential assasination during a civil war, and won. Tell your cowardly allies to come out and take us on."
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As of now, the first wave of strike aircraft are departing toward the Corleones. Included is microwave weaponry. You will have until then to stand down.
Crosshill
08-12-2003, 22:17
We have assasins in the country of New Empire, poised to assasinate the New Empirian president. This is a pre-emptive strike, in defense of our allies. They will assist with this attack once your president has been killed.

La cosa Nostra,

Don Michael Corleone

That is completely illegal and nothing more than simple murder. And an act of terrorism against a souvereign and independent state. If you continue your mission we will provide New Empire with all the help the request from the PRC including an full scal war to hunt down and punish those responsible. So please abord this misson and return your troops to their barracks. No one (and the least you!) would benefit from a war.
Independent Hitmen
08-12-2003, 22:23
Independent Hitmen
08-12-2003, 22:24
[tag] the President is monitoring the situation closely.
08-12-2003, 23:04
Don Michael Corleone wishes to clarify the going ons between the UCSNE and the family.
First of all, the family would like to apoligize to the international community. The assasination was aborted and the hitman is now in the custody of New Empire.
Second, The Corleones trained the operative and he is a citizen of our country.
Third, The Corleones were supposed to be paid $3billion by the respective governments of Markov and Pain and Misery, and that those two nations were to invade New Empire.
Fourth, neither nation paid up or invaded.
Fith, The Corleones sincerely apologize and will take action against the rogue states that played games with its leaders.

Don Michael Corleone
New Empire
08-12-2003, 23:22
Well, our old friend Markov? While we would like to believe it was him and that you are not lying, we ask someone to confirm this. If one of the "contractors" admits to it, and gives us information, we will spare them of military action. However, we will not tolerate this action at all.
Hein, you little pissant, if we figure out this is you, the next munitions shipment you recieve will be coming from the bomb bays of our strike bombers. Do I have to annihalate your nation again?
Pain and Misery, you are not exempt. We have been assisting your men in counter terror ops, and should this be true, you will not be spared one bit. And to the CFA, if we find out they are guilty, DO NOT intervene.
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Pandrea Islands-
The 10 EB-1CMs, giant microwave weapon equipped Lancers, prepared to take off. They had also loaded up with 2 HyVeloc 2 stage ASAT missiles, if they were called to attack the Markovian OADPN or take out P&M satellites. The men were nervous, but ready.
Markov
09-12-2003, 00:51
Mr. Corleone,

I never contracted you to assasinate anyone.....that was pain & misery...
09-12-2003, 01:24
TheCorleones why did you try to assain a leader of a nation?if it is post I am sorry I missed it.but I will support New Empire if war brakes out between you two.
New Empire
09-12-2003, 02:55
I'd like to hear P&Ms views on this before we take action. Once I do, rest assured it will be heard. Perhaps a couple cruise missile strikes or blacking out a military base will convince this contractor not to fool with us.
Kamrad Stalin
09-12-2003, 03:15
Kamrad Stalin's Nation stands behind New Empire.
New Empire
09-12-2003, 03:15
Mr. Corleone,

I never contracted you to assasinate anyone.....that was pain & misery...
Wait, so you knew about this plot? And considering your close ties with P&M, I'd assume you supported this?

The only thing necessary for evil for triumph is for good men to do nothing. So tell me Hein, what were YOU doing?
Crosshill
09-12-2003, 03:17
Don Michael Corleone wishes to clarify the going ons between the UCSNE and the family.
First of all, the family would like to apoligize to the international community. The assasination was aborted and the hitman is now in the custody of New Empire.
Second, The Corleones trained the operative and he is a citizen of our country.
Third, The Corleones were supposed to be paid $3billion by the respective governments of Markov and Pain and Misery, and that those two nations were to invade New Empire.
Fourth, neither nation paid up or invaded.
Fith, The Corleones sincerely apologize and will take action against the rogue states that played games with its leaders.

Don Michael Corleone


The PRC welcomes the openness of Don Michael. We support a peaceful solution and the capture and punishment of those responsible for the conspiracy. We how ever do no longer support any military action against the Corleones. The admitted their plan and have aborted it. In fact they are now the key witnesses which will lead us to the masterminds of this conspiracy.

The PRC would like to request New Empire not to strike against the Corleones. Actions against the backers of terrorism how ever are welcome by the PRC. Even though we would appreciate the minimal use of force.
New Genoa
09-12-2003, 03:31
"Sir, disturbing news once more," said the presidential aide.

"What, more casualties reports from Hurricane Saddam?" inquired President Carter. "Has Mr. Jackson been found?"

"No and no. I just got a fax from your information minister. Trouble is brewing against our allies, New Empire. Here ya go," answered the aide as he handed the report to the President who put on his glasses and read it over.

The bastards... how long are they going to hold a grudge against New Empire? he thought to himself quietly as he let out a large sigh.

"Contact Corinth. I want a direct connection established between our two offices to deal with this matter. In the meanwhile, contact the Senate and get two MEUs ready to rock," ordered Carter systematically.

"Yessir."

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~~~Encrypted Transmission to President Corinth Dleroes of New Empire~~~
We apologize for our belated response to this matter. As you know, many issues have been cluttering my agenda and I am absolutely shocked of the amount of time it took our information ministry to obtain the news of your current situation with those persky 'buggers.'

The Senate has been contacted of this matter and a session discussing the mobilization of two New Genoese Marine Expeditionary Units will be held. A two-thirds majority vote in favor of a bill including the mobilization these forces is needed, and I have no doubt that it will pass. However, whether the MEUs will be needed or not depends on how this situation evolves.

Yours truly,
President Alex Carter
~~~End Encrypted Transmission to President Corinth Dleroes of New Empire~~~
New Empire
09-12-2003, 21:28
As of now, we have decided that all involved parties in this assasination immediately present their side of the story for review by us and the rest of the world. Once this has been presented, we ask that other nations give their input on the real guilty party.

And a warning- P&M and Markov, should either of you be guilty, you will not be safe. We have weapons that can put cities in black outs and fry satellites in a tenth of a second. And Markov, if it was you only, we will not give you a second chance for soverignity.
[Encrypt Radar Pulse communication to President Carter]
Don't worry about the late response, we all have nations to run. With today's world, getting any information on time is a challenge. But rest assured, if the situation really hits the fan, we will need all the help we can get. Right now we need intelligence on this conspiracy, to find out who is really guilty.

President Corinth Dleroes
[End]

The Global Range Orbital Launcher Aircraft ignited the 4 ScramJet engines as the aircraft accelerated to Mach 10. A huge gaping hole in it's nose began to open, as the Pebble-Bed reactor pumped power to the mass driver. A satellite, embedded in it's shell, sat in the cavity as the magnetic coils charged. In a milisecond, it was flying toward the atmopshere. The engines on the shell slammed on, slowing it down, as the verniers directed it into a geosynchrounous orbit over Sparta, one of Markov's major cities. Below it, the EMS sensor detected and identified the myriad of OADPN satellites, and the satellite began transmitting the signals of a Wireless communications satellite. It was decked with the markers and beacons of an international wireless company, and was equipped with the proper amount of relays. However, it also housed a very high powered microwave/EM emitter, one that could be used for more things than communication. Also embedded was a suite of cameras and communications monitoring equipment for electronic peeping and eavesdropping. And over Pain and Misery, a similar satellite was also being deployed. The pieces for Operation New York were in place.
Markov
09-12-2003, 22:09
OOC: Don't forget....if you do attack.....the OCS is under construction....
Markov
09-12-2003, 22:32
Subject: Adressing the President of United City States of New Empire
From: The President of The Republic of Markov
Encrypt: 097843-2 MG

President Dleroes,

The Markovian government was not aware of any assaination attempt against you. And if we had known, we surley would have infromed you. You forget that after the war in which New empire occupied us we have reformed our government. We signed a treaty. And recently you've granted us trade rights. So, ask yourself. Why would we even think about this? We're just beginning to get our country back together let alone, our military. We ask you as a freind and ally to cease hostile actions against Markov. Pull your ships our of our space. We will be dismayed if we have to defend our country for something we didn't do.

Peace,

The President of The Republic of Markov,
David T. Hein
http://www.freewebs.com/markov/Markovlogo18.JPG
New Empire
09-12-2003, 23:47
OOC-I can destroy every electronic device on your OCS within 1/100th of a second.

[Encrypted Radar Pulse Comm to Markov]
So why do you seem so sure it was Pain and Misery that did it? You said it yourself, "that was Pain and Misery". Hein, our intelligence sources have over 60 GBs worth of imagery, transcripts, and messages from other sources on possible Markovian threat to the UCSNE. Our forces are currently assisting P&M troops to root out terrorists. But while you may not have a grudge against us, I assure you there are hardliners within your nation that may have control of key elements. And the General Olsen, of the Black Hand, what ever happened to him? We have enough loose ends with people like him to circle the world. There have been no hostile actions against Markov, and we have no military spacecraft over your nation, but if we wanted either of those, we could certainly do that. But right now, the most evidence is against a Markovian. I will not play this silly game with you any longer. If necessary, we will conduct our own investigations within your nation and Pain and Misery if neither of you can yield a perpetrator. If we wanted to, we could hack every database in Markov with information on a computer connected to the net. Or we could black out your entire nation without killing a single person, putting you in a dark age. If you cannot admit that you did it, you better damn well be able to back up your accusations against Pain and Misery. We will be dismayed if we have to demolish you again.

Corinth Dleroes
Markov
10-12-2003, 00:22
Subject: Adressing the President of United City States of New Empire
From: The President of The Republic of Markov
Encrypt: 097743-5 MG

President Dleroes,

What happened to the "Black Hand"? I'll tell you. The Black Hand became what is now the new Markovian government. General Olsen is still a General of the Markovian army. When we had abolished the old government, Olsen refused become the President. He nonminated me, his left hand man in the former "Black Hand" operation to become the new president. So, essentially, the Markovian government is the "Black Hand". We honestly do not know why Pain and Misery contracted TheCorleones to attempt an assasination on you, but we can assure you that we had nothing to do with it. I think we should ask Pain and Misery what really happened.....then you'd have your answer, and Markov will be cleared of these acussations.

Peace,

The President of The Republic of Markov,
David T. Hein
http://www.freewebs.com/markov/Markovlogo18.JPG
10-12-2003, 00:30
The Corleones would like to submit intelligence to support how Marcov and P and M have actively supported terrorism either through contracting The Corleones or using puppet nations. We will provide this information if asked for it. We believe this new information will close the case on how and why these rogue states tried to pay a decent hardworking country to assasinate one of the most respected countries on the planet. We only hope that they get what they deserve. The Don would like to take this opportunity to welcome diplomatic relations with New Empire to encourage peace and stability.

Vincenzo Corleone

Ambassador and Chief Assistant to Don Corleone
Agrigento
10-12-2003, 00:34
La Villa Presidenziale
Sicilia, Agrigento

http://www.casteland.com/images/chateau/chambord/chambord017.jpg
_____________________________

"Mr. Corleone!", shouted the administrative assistant.

"What is it Marco???", replied the alerted President.

"Someone is galavanting with your name, claiming responsibility for assassination attempts, and stating connections with the Capo di Capi!!"

"Hmm...call the printers and have them include my first name on all the letterheads"


ooc: You see, Mario Corleone has been my president since I created my nation.
New Empire
10-12-2003, 01:14
Mr. Hein, allow me to say I have just lost all respect and trust for the Markovian Government. The Black Hand is just a group of power hungry revenge seeking killers, and they will certainly not be on the friendly side of any diplomatic relations. You're damn lucky we called off the assasinations planned for the final stages of the 1st Markov war, or your little organization would be 6 feet under after incidents calling for closed casket funerals. Alas, I thought the new Markovian government didn't need any more tension, so we decided not to hunt them down. But that was a long time ago, and unfortunately, your nation has gone from bad to worse. When the Corleones open up, you damn well better not be mentioned.

President Corinth Dleroes
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TheCorleones, it would be extremely helpful to our investigation to share any and all information on this situation. If you provide us with all the facts, we will protect you from any kind of backlash from other nations. We hope to improve relations so we never face this kind of situation again.
Kajiraki
10-12-2003, 02:20
The man walked out of the Empress meeting room, amid the stares of many government officials. The stares he received were full of fear and anger, he was a dishonorable man. Yet, he held no problem with them, as he did a job that only one of his standing could do. Those who watched him walked out knew that something was about to be done.
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Private Comunication to New Empire President Corinthe Delores:

It is with great honor I offer you a service. The dishonorable acts of Markov and Pain and Missery must be honored with revenge. I offer you the service of the Kajiraki Inteliegence Agency's Ninjas. Like the Ninjas of old, all trace heritage to one of the original Ninja clans, and are masters of ninjitsu. However, they are armed with modern weaponry, and use current tactics in their operations. I offer you their service should you choose to accept it. With honor

Empress Ryoko Kajiraki
Kajiraki
10-12-2003, 02:20
The man walked out of the Empress meeting room, amid the stares of many government officials. The stares he received were full of fear and anger, he was a dishonorable man. Yet, he held no problem with them, as he did a job that only one of his standing could do. Those who watched him walked out knew that something was about to be done.
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Private Comunication to New Empire President Corinthe Delores:

It is with great honor I offer you a service. The dishonorable acts of Markov and Pain and Missery must be honored with revenge. I offer you the service of the Kajiraki Inteliegence Agency's Ninjas. Like the Ninjas of old, all trace heritage to one of the original Ninja clans, and are masters of ninjitsu. However, they are armed with modern weaponry, and use current tactics in their operations. I offer you their service should you choose to accept it. With honor

Empress Ryoko Kajiraki
Markov
10-12-2003, 02:33
Subject: Adressing the President of United City States of New Empire and Don Vincenzo Corleone of The Corleone crime family
From: The President of The Republic of Markov
Encrypt: 087743-7 MG

President Dleroes,

After the old Makovian government fell apart, The Black Hand worked to restore order and and completely remove the corrupt leaders that controled the government. We pulled Markov back together under a stable non corrupt government. We are no power hungry nor are we seeking revenge. I can assure you that we didn't contract anyone to assasinate you nor did we know anything about it. These accusations are false.

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Don Corleone,

You say you have intelligence? I'd like to this. I know for a fact that the Markovian government never supported an assasination attempt on President Dleroes, and we most certainly have no ties with any terrorist groups. We are a nation recovering from a war and we can't afford to get into another one.

Respectively,

The President of The Republic of Markov
David T. Hein
http://www.freewebs.com/markov/Markovlogo18.JPG
Adejaani
10-12-2003, 03:26
President Morghan J. Harrington of the Technocratic Republic of Adejaani read the reports as they came in. Finally, she pulled off her glasses and tossed them on the table and surveyed the bulk of her senior ministry. "An assassination plot. Please tell me we're ready."

The Secretary of Defense stood up. "Our counterintelligence is good. The only thing I can be sure of is that at least we didn't come up with this. As for your worry about your own safety and that of our government, well, we've got plans to practically lock the entire nation down."

Director of Intelligence Ryan then leaned forward after the SecDef sat. "We have a relatively weak Foreign Intelligence service, but our Domestic Intelligence is as good as any. My worry is the legal side of this matter....."

Heads swivelled and someone had to shake Attorney General Jones awake. "Hmm? Oh, sorry I fell asleep. Uh, as far as the legalities go, New Empire doesn't really have the legal authority to attack a sovereign country based on planning and intent to attack the leader of a sovereign nation. However, it does go towards intent, BUT! If it was a government plot to attack NE, then NE can declare war on that nation. They cannot declare war on a nation just to take out a bunch of terrorists, however. I do believe that is the legal standing."

Harrington nodded. "Okay, then."

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Unencrypted comm
From: President Morghan J. Harrington, Adejaani
To: President Corinth Dleroes, New Empire

"My Attorney General has enlightened me on the events at hand, as well as the legal standing. If it was a group of independents, then attack them. It does not give you legal authority to declare war on a sovereign country, who cannot be held accountable for independent fanatics, however 'sucky' a legal standing that is. If, however, if the governments of those countries in question did indeed sanction and pay for this assassination, then by all means, glass them. We wish you well and our assets, Military, Intelligence and Civilian, are at your disposal should you wish."
Pain and Misery
10-12-2003, 20:59
lol, this is all very funny and a HUGE waste of time.
thecorleones, I fear that you have greatly understood me. I was never planning a pre-emptive strike, or any kind of attack on you, new empire, for you are a friend. the corleones, you must learn to listen more carefully, too. Here is how it really went:
My little brother (not linklizard9) wanted to attack New Empire as dirbetium. Yes, what a shock. Anyway, I told the corleones that he was going to pay the 3 billion dollars to you. You must have though that I said that I was the one who was gonna attack him.
Now, MARKOV, on the other hand, was planning the attack the whole time as he has told thecorleones. If I'm not mistaken, he also told YOU, New Empire, that he was planning on attacking you Not a very good tactic, but what else can you expect from markov. As you may remember, he has attacked you before and has had plans to attack you at many other occasions.
The bottom line is: It was my little brother who wanted to attack (go easy on him. He's very young) and Markov wanted to help, as far as I know.

I think you will all understand what the situation is now that i've clarified it for you all.
-P&M
http://www.cpmission.com/graphics/pain.jpg
New Empire
10-12-2003, 21:04
Hein, you ARE a member of a terrorist organization. You attempted to kill an ambassador, murdered other former Markovian officials, and destroyed countless facilities. If that isn't terrorism, what is it? And why would a recovering nation be building a space port, offensive weapons like 2 new classes of aircraft carrier, intercontinental stealth bombers, and 28 new military projects. Recovering indeed. I now ask you to present your information for your accusation of Pain and Misery. Now.
EDIT-
OOC-Pain and Misery, I know for a fact Dirbetium is your joke puppet. Stop making this b*llshit up. And do not get upset and try to get back at me by making something up like "Whichenedon is NE's puppet". And yes, Markov did tell me OOCly that he had TheCorleones make that post, but I didn't think that would run IC. But WTF, you just made it IC information.
IC-
Pain and Misery, we do not believe this story about Dirbetium.

However, intelligence reports did suggest Markovian plans for an offensive after the new stealth bombers were developed.
Markov
10-12-2003, 22:52
Subject: Adressing the President of United City States of New Empire
From: The President of The Republic of Markov
Encrypt: 197743-9 MG

Pesident Dleroes,

The new Markovian government is NOT being run by terrorists. The "Black Hand" had to take action against the formar government after the war. The only way completely remove the old government was to completely destroy it. The new governemnt holds no grudge against you or your allies. And to answer your second question......after the war and after your occupation had ended we felt that we needed to rebuild our military for defense purposes. We have no intention of mounting an offensive against New Empire. We have built offensive weapons to aid our allies if need be. I adamit that we have no "solid" evidence accusing Pain & Misery of contracting The Corleone crime family. (All our info on that is OOC) but on behalf of the citizens and gorvernment of Markov I can assure you that we had nothing to with P&M's plans.

Respectively,

The President of The Republic of Markov,
David T. Hein
http://www.freewebs.com/markov/Markovlogo18.JPG
10-12-2003, 22:58
P and M: you contracted me through Derbetium (or however you spell the name of your puppet nation)
Marcov: Your full of BS. Our consiergetti (attorney general) met with your president in Marcov to discuss terms of a contract to carry out hits on the leaders of New Empire and its alies. You said that you would, along with either Derbetium (which I should add frequently godmods) or P and M.
OOC: Im sorry I used your leaders name. The new don of The Corleones is Vincenzo Corleone.
New Empire
10-12-2003, 23:31
New Empire
10-12-2003, 23:33
The new Markovian government is NOT being run by terrorists. The "Black Hand" had to take action against the formar government after the war. The only way completely remove the old government was to completely destroy it.
Terrorism- The unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence by a person or an organized group against people or property with the intention of intimidating or coercing societies or governments, often for ideological or political reasons.
People being the former government. Society and Government being Markov.

I'd say you're terrorists.


And to answer your second question......after the war and after your occupation had ended we felt that we needed to rebuild our military for defense purposes. We have no intention of mounting an offensive against New Empire. We have built offensive weapons to aid our allies if need be.

I agree. You definetly did.

They will assist with this attack once your president has been killed.
I believe all evidence is pointing toward you and Pain and Misery. We expect repartations very quickly.

We thank the Corleones for their cooperation. Should any of the accused attack you, we will provide defense.
Crosshill
11-12-2003, 00:59
The Corleones would like to submit intelligence to support how Marcov and P and M have actively supported terrorism either through contracting The Corleones or using puppet nations. We will provide this information if asked for it. We believe this new information will close the case on how and why these rogue states tried to pay a decent hardworking country to assasinate one of the most respected countries on the planet. We only hope that they get what they deserve. The Don would like to take this opportunity to welcome diplomatic relations with New Empire to encourage peace and stability.

Vincenzo Corleone

Ambassador and Chief Assistant to Don Corleone

Very good, that is exactly what is needed here. Provide this information and provide tham openly accessabel for all nations involved. The final messures agaist the responsible nations should be set by New Empire.
New Empire
11-12-2003, 01:11
Actually, I ask the international community for their decision on punishment should repartations not be made.

We ask both P&M and Markov to each pay $3 Billion to make up for this injustice, and that any terrorists and conspirators in office be removed.
Crosshill
11-12-2003, 01:35
We suggest an ultimatum (maybe three days?) if they don't remove the criminals and hand them over to you...
Adejaani
11-12-2003, 01:38
If a legitimate government seeks to attack another legitimate government, even through terrorist activities, then we will go to war beside you. New Empire, my forces are ready.
Markov
11-12-2003, 02:10
Subject: Adressing the President of United City States of New Empire
From: The President of The Republic of Markov
Encrypt: 197745-3 MG

President Dleroes,

The Markovian government has never had any contact with The Corleone crime family until now. We most certainly did not meet with their attorny general. We are reluctant to comply with your requests for peace. Ripping out Markov's government right now would cause the whole country to go into chaos. If we were to do this, we would have to have to replace Black Hand loyalists over a period of time. And as for the $3 billion you requested.....that would have to come out of the OCS budget, and im not sure the MSA would be to happy about that. I can't believe this! I negotiating terms for peace for something Markov was never part of! However, on behalf of the defense of Markov we will discuss your requests. If we fail to comply with either of these peace requirements what will be the result? War?

Repectively,

The President of The Republic of Markov,
David T. Hein
http://www.freewebs.com/markov/Markovlogo18.JPG
Crosshill
11-12-2003, 02:11
We hereby also guarantee the independance and freedom of the corleones. As long as they cooperate as good as the do now no one shall harm them.

OOC: we also provide 3,000,000 $ to the don. For investment in new security technology. If he requeses we will also send a squad of Crosshill's special forces to work as body guards for him. It is not unlikly that those responsible will try to simply kill him in order to remove a witness...
11-12-2003, 02:14
The Corleones wish to state their support for New Empire and its Allies in going to war against P and M and Markov. The Don is willing to release the following information implying P and M to the assasination attempt on President Delores.
We cannot add names to the following dialogue to protect our intelligence officers
(Telephone Coversation between the P and M intelligence to Corleones Intel)
(PM):We (Markov and PM) have decided we want you to take her out
(C): Aight. We getting support from you on this?
(PM): Our puppet (dibetium) will provide air and some ground support. Markov will send troops through its puppet to avoid a large scale invasion.
(C): Fine. But we can't risk offending our allies. We are only doing this hit for the cash. Capice?
(PM): Suuuure

In addition, it has come to our attention that not only did Markov attempt to pay the Corleones for the hit, they also hijacked our communications to send the declaration of war under our good name to save our skin.
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We have assasins in the country of New Empire, poised to assasinate the New Empirian president. This is a pre-emptive strike, in defense of our allies. They will assist with this attack once your president has been killed.

La cosa Nostra,

Don Michael Corleone

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That was a forgery. Markovian intelligence wrote the declaration and sent under our name. We demand that P and M get what they deserve and we hereby will declare war on them if they do not pay me $15 trillion dollars in reparations and oil and nuclear resources within 3 days. This will be used to protect Don Vincenzo Corleone from attack from hostile neighbors.

We would also like to thank the support of the world community through this endeavor, especially those who have provided financial assistance. The Corleone Stock Exchange has hit and all time low and the un employment rate is also rising. Help would be grately appreciated.

Joe Adalini
Consiergetti to the Don
Agrigento
11-12-2003, 02:17
President Dleroes, I urge you not to rush to judgement here. The Republic of Markov may be sincere. La Repubblica D'Agrigento has dealt quite often with the Friends of Friends, or what you may call the Mafia. They are not a very savory bunch, and our Carabinieri knows first hand just how tricky they can be. Perhaps the Corleone family (which happens to share a name with my family) is attempting to play you against Markov. It maynot be the truth, but you must admit it is plausible, no?

Mario Corleone
President of Agrigento

http://image.pathfinder.com/time/europe/magazine/20010528/0521_berlusconi.jpg
Lomaks Empire
11-12-2003, 02:20
bwahahahahahahaha..


hahahahahahaha
11-12-2003, 02:23
President Dleroes, I urge you not to rush to judgement here. The Republic of Markov may be sincere. La Repubblica D'Agrigento has dealt quite often with the Friends of Friends, or what you may call the Mafia. They are not a very savory bunch, and our Carabinieri knows first hand just how tricky they can be. Perhaps the Corleone family (which happens to share a name with my family) is attempting to play you against Markov. It maynot be the truth, but you must admit it is plausible, no?

Mario Corleone
President of Agrigento

http://image.pathfinder.com/time/europe/magazine/20010528/0521_berlusconi.jpg
Mario Corleone:
Why must you try to slander my (fine.. our) family's name. We our simply a respectable country trying to do some business. We dont know no mafia. Anything you want to call it, we are completely legitamate. We would like some more respect in the future, no?
Don Vincenzo Corleone
Crosshill
11-12-2003, 02:27
Agrigento
11-12-2003, 02:29
Don Vincenzo, it was never my intention to slander your name, or make accusations, I am simply noting your position in the Cosa Nostra. Now, I am not sure whether or not you are being truthful in this, and while I do not doubt your word I do insist that the Republic of Markov is given a fair, just, and unobjective defense. Now until further proof is provided (I don't know what that could be), me and my nation will continue to object to these proceedings.

Mario Corleone
President of Agrigento

*insert picture here*
New Empire
11-12-2003, 02:39
Markov, even House Corino, your ally has said he believes you are guilty. All evidence puts Pain and Misery and Markov in the spotlight, and both accuse each other.

But do I trust Cosa Nostra or Black Hand...?
A nation I do not know or a nation I know for conflict?
And this is the decision world leaders must make.

I call upon every nation except the UCSNE, Markov, P&M, and The Corleones to read these proceedings and decide what should happen and to who.

Markov, I can guaruntee, even if you do not comply, I will not kill Markovians.
OOC-There are more ways to make you comply than killing or the threat of it... The more advanced you are, the more hard it hits...
Crosshill
11-12-2003, 02:39
We agree with Agrigento, you should wait with the declaration of war, if you are attackt how ever we will support the Corleones. Do you want the guards?
New Empire
11-12-2003, 02:42
I ask all nations, beginning with Crosshill and Agrigento to reply with something along the lines of this
Markov (Guilty or Not Guilty)
Pain and Misery (Guilty or not Guilty)
If you choose guilty on either or both, describe the actions we should take.
Agrigento
11-12-2003, 02:43
One of the reasons I remain so skeptical of The Corleone's claims is their willingness to reveal their employer. The Cosa Nostra revolves around the code of Omerta, a strict martial code. However they have so quite easily gone against the Code, with almost no regret or hesistance.

For now I shall say Not Guilty for both of the accused

Agrigento law dictates Innocent until proven guilty, and since it has not been proven, in mine eyes, I must reply as such.
New Empire
11-12-2003, 02:47
One of the reasons I remain so skeptical of The Corleone's claims is their willingness to reveal their employer. The Cosa Nostra revolves around the code of Omerta, a strict martial code. However they have so quite easily gone against the Code, with almost no regret or hesistance.
We are aware of that, but perhaps Omerta must be brought down when you have a nation of over 1.2 billion with one of the worlds most advanced air force and navy breathing down your neck?

But I'm asking for guilty or not guilty, ethics is not what we have come to discuss.
Crosshill
11-12-2003, 02:57
It seems to me that both nations are guilty of terrorist conspiracy against New Empire. Markov however seems to regret this mistake.

You should give them the time to rethink their statements and should take no further actions against them if they extradiat the persons behind this conspiracy. For we don't beleve the entire governement to be involved in this. Only some extremists.
New Empire
11-12-2003, 02:59
In the case of Markov, the government is extremist... But how can we trust Markov to remove every terrorist from it's goverment? We don't expect them to voluntarily, their govt. is terrorist.
Crosshill
11-12-2003, 03:08
I can not advise you on that matter. We shuold let them speak for them selfs. If they don't hand them over we will support a police action against them to get the prime suspects arrested.

We also suggest that you make a list of the prime suspects from Markov and P&M if your laws allow it both nations could hand the suspects over to the PRC. Just in case that they fear an unjust trail in New Empire. But only if you agree on that.
Agrigento
11-12-2003, 05:20
ooc: To any true, self-respecting Sicilian, such as myself, though I am not involved in the Mafia directly, such a breach would be completely inconcievable. Especially when there are otherways around it, I am sure there could have been a peaceful resolution otherwise.

ic:

Agrigento stands by its decision. We may not know as much about the history of your nations, but we do know about organized crime, and we do follow the ideals of our written law. Now, perhaps you would not be completely unjustified in going to war with Markov and P&M, God knows wars have been fought for lesser things with lesser evidence, but I hope you will choose the moral high ground in this. You may come to whatever decision you may, and I will not protest it, nor will I judge you for it.

Mario Corleone
President of Agrigento

*Blah blah blah*
Kajiraki
11-12-2003, 05:33
I say grab the leaders of Markov, TheCorleones, and O&M, and have them commit seppuko to regain what ever honor they still have...
Crosshill
11-12-2003, 05:36
That would be cheap.
Pain and Misery
11-12-2003, 13:48
thecorleones, as I have already stated, dirbetium is my younger brothers nation. However, I am greatly sorry for your misunderstanding, and I am sorry that I screwed you over. To make up for it, I wire 3 billion dollars to your nation, the money that dirbetium was going to pay that you never recieved. New Empire, I am sorry that I have caused you trouble by helping my brother to post this, and I also pay you 3 billion dollars, to end any negative feelings that we may be experiencing about one an other.

I hope that this makes up for any trouble that I have caused you, and gain, I am greatly sorry.

-President Bob, Schmidt
Pain and Misery
http://www.cpmission.com/graphics/pain.jpg
New Empire
11-12-2003, 17:04
Pain and Misery, thank you for your understanding.

Markov, we still ask for 3 billion and removal of Black Hand members from office.
11-12-2003, 17:23
To help a fellow Empire, the Empire of Kevin Land is hereby sending military and economic aid to the United States of New Empire.

AMBASSADOR FOR THE BAATH ARAB SOCIALIST STAES REGION.
Crosshill
11-12-2003, 17:28
Pain and Misery, thank you for your understanding.

Markov, we still ask for 3 billion and removal of Black Hand members from office.

That is a genourus gesture towards your enemies. If they refuse your open hand of freindship and forgiveness they shall pay.
New Empire
11-12-2003, 17:29
*Sighs*
During the early, medieval ages of the nation, it was divided into city states. The most powerful was the alliance between 2 large ones-Auerstadt and Frisia. This is what was commonly reffered to as the 'Old Empire'. Then, during the rise of industry, the Old Empire collapsed. Thus began the chaos years, which lasted until the beginning of the modern era. Finally, in a 20 year war, Auerstadt occupied Frisia. This was declared the 'New Empire' of Auerstadt and Frisia. The united states part is what we really are-former city states that joined the 'New Empire'. Then, it became a democracy, but for historical reasons, New Empire stuck as the name.

So we aren't an empire anymore.

But while we appreciate the offer, we have a great economy (Frightening), and we are fine with our military.
New Empire
11-12-2003, 17:31
Pain and Misery, thank you for your understanding.

Markov, we still ask for 3 billion and removal of Black Hand members from office.

That is a genourus gesture towards your enemies. If they refuse your open hand of freindship and forgiveness they shall pay.
If they refuse, none of their people will be killed, unless they escalate the conflict.
Daamfeck
11-12-2003, 17:33
We have assasins in the country of New Empire, poised to assasinate the New Empirian president. This is a pre-emptive strike, in defense of our allies. They will assist with this attack once your president has been killed.

La cosa Nostra,

Don Michael Corleone

That is completely illegal and nothing more than simple murder. And an act of terrorism against a souvereign and independent state. If you continue your mission we will provide New Empire with all the help the request from the PRC including an full scal war to hunt down and punish those responsible. So please abord this misson and return your troops to their barracks. No one (and the least you!) would benefit from a war.

True. It also sounds frustratingly familiar to an OOC war going on in the Rl world... And just because it bears a resemblance to that war... I'll do anything in my power to help the New Empire.

Down with America!
Pain and Misery
11-12-2003, 18:12
As I have explained the situation and paid New Empire for any inconvinience, and now that we have forgiven and forgoten, it is all on you Markov. If you are going to prove that I was ever planning on doing something or if you are going to prove that you weren't then I recommend you do it now so that the CFA doesn't have to get involved. If oyu don't prove anything, then you should meet New Empires demands, as you well know he doesn't have much tolerance for ntions who piss him off.
Kajiraki
11-12-2003, 18:14
True. It also sounds frustratingly familiar to an OOC war going on in the Rl world... And just because it bears a resemblance to that war... I'll do anything in my power to help the New Empire.

Down with America!

Please tell me your kidding...
House Corino
11-12-2003, 18:16
From: President of House Corino, Renaldo Altizi
To: Markovian President and Cabinet
Encode: G36-M333 R

Markov... Do we have an accord? Are you willing to Cease violence against NE? Remove all Black Hand party members from office? Give up your grudge against NE? If not, I am very willing to join with the forces removing terrorism from the upper reaches of Markov's Government.
Crosshill
11-12-2003, 18:26
True. It also sounds frustratingly familiar to an OOC war going on in the Rl world... And just because it bears a resemblance to that war... I'll do anything in my power to help the New Empire.

Down with America!

Please tell me your kidding...

Please try to stay IC...
Markov
11-12-2003, 18:33
Subject: Adressing the leaders of all involved nations.
From: The President of The Republic of Markov
Unencrypted: 197745-3 PU

As I said before, we have no solid evidence accusing Pain and Misery of contracting the Corleone crime family to conduct an act of hostility against the president of New Empire. However, we can verify that we had nothing to do with it. None of our leaders ever met met with anyone from Pain & Misery or the crime family. Our governemnt is most certainly not filled with terrorists looking for revenge. We have established a safe, stable government under Markov. We would never dream of commiting acts of hostility against any nation with no reason for doing so. Now, I belive New Empire said thatthe ultimatum was 3 days. Give us that time to discuss our decision.

Repectively,

The President of The Republic of Markov,
David T. Hein
http://www.freewebs.com/markov/Markovlogo18.JPG
House Corino
11-12-2003, 18:43
OOC-Markov, you cannot prove you haven't had contact either IC, or RLWrld.

IC-Markov. "One man's freedom fighter is another man's terrorist." Your current regeim used acts of terror to come to power, acts of terror to maintain power, and is not exactly an angel when it comes to relations with NE. We admit we have no solid evidence linking you to the attempts (only alot of pointing fingers), however, we still wish for you to remove the Black Hand from Power.

I repeat, I will gladly aid in the removal of the Black Hand from power if you are unable.
Pain and Misery
11-12-2003, 18:45
To president Hein of Markov:

President Hein, you were to be given three days, but you are causing more problems than you are solving.
OOC: Sorry for that Matrix quote. It seemed to fit so well in there.
IC: Paying up and standing down will end this conflict as well as many others. Right now, all you are doing is causing grief these nations, and soon, you will be causing grief for the CFA. I beg you not to go any further in your aguement and give up now before this grows out of your hands. The last thing you, me, and the rest of the CFA needs is a war with the Allied Powers. I hope you will take my recommendation into consideration and do what it right.

-Respectively,
President Bob Schmidt of Pain and Misery.
http://www.cpmission.com/graphics/pain.jpg
New Empire
11-12-2003, 19:28
Hein, I never gave you 3 days. I asked for 3 billion.

You will post your decision ASAP, no more maybes, no more "give us some time", no more delays and whining.
Markov
11-12-2003, 20:39
Subject: Adressing the President of United City States of New Empire
From: The President of The Republic of Markov
Encrypt: 497785-2 MG

President Dleroes,

You must understand that it is completely impossible to replace a nation's government overnight. The process will time. First, we need to remove the existing Black Hand loyalists from office then we need to elect more officials to fill in for them. As for the 3 billion you requested, that money would come straight from the MSA's OCS budget. I'm sure we can afford to do that though. If you have any ideas on how we could speed up this process please lets us know.

Respectivly,

The President of The Republic of Markov,
David T. Hein
http://www.freewebs.com/markov/Markovlogo18.JPG
New Empire
11-12-2003, 20:45
I'm asking for a "Yes" or a "No." Not whining.

You will take out all Black Hand officials immediately, and replace them with whoever is seen best until elections, and the people re-elected cannot be black hand officials.
11-12-2003, 22:16
The Corleones thank P and M for their cooperation. We are also offering the same reparations deal as NE to Markov. If they fail to comply within 1 day, our allies will be forced to attack.
Aggriento: Its hard to comply with a code of ethics when you are face with the prospect of your family dead. Can't do it. Thats why i released the evidence.

Vincenzo Corleone
Agrigento
12-12-2003, 00:13
We insist that Democracy be allowed to work to its fullest in Markov. Any form of administration change requires time, and so do elections of new officers. New Empire, you cannot ask them to do this so swiftly, so suddenly and so undemocraticly. If need be my nation will oversee elections, to insure that the people are represented properly.

Mario Corleone
President of Agrigento

http://image.pathfinder.com/time/europe/magazine/20010528/0521_berlusconi.jpg
New Empire
12-12-2003, 00:34
What, may I ask, is the point of re-electing more Black Hand officials? I agree this cannot be done quickly, but military positions or intelligence officers should be immediately removed, as they are non-essential to running the Government. Markov, you still have not agreed nor disagreed to these conditions. We expect an answer by 10 PM EST. (Unless there are RL conditions prohibiting it)
Crosshill
12-12-2003, 00:40
We agree with Agrigento on that matter. You shoud give Markov more time. They are very cooperative and they confessed their wrongdoings. We kindly suggest that you give them three month to remove the criminals from office. But nothing comes with out a price. Markov shall decomission their whole airforce and navy. Decomissionig could be monitored by Agrigento, if they have the time and ability. We thing this a fair compromise. But you have to decide.
New Empire
12-12-2003, 01:14
Markov hasn't really been cooperative, and they have not confessed anything.

We are sick and tired of hearing about this nation involved in plots against the UCSNE.

Perhaps we shall take a look at Markovian history?
-Markov and the UCSNE were once friends in the Allied Powers
-Markov is mentioned in a threatening plot involved with another ex APTO nation, G-corp, to attack the UCSNE. G-corp was attacked for the purpose of keeping the reigon stable.
-Markov leaves the APTO with no bad feelings
-Markov puts a puppet nation in the APTO, threatens to nuke the entire reigon. No action is taken.
-Markov sends several threatening telegrams to the UCSNE. After input, the UCSNE launches an all out war against Markov, with the aid of other nations, and wipes out the nation's military.
-Markov was then forced to sign non-aggression pacts with UCSNE, undergoes period of occupation
-Black Hand emerges, begins terrorist attacks
And now we're here.
12-12-2003, 01:26
The Corleones has a more effective plan for Markov's government:

Reparation of $3 billion dollars are made

The Parliament calls new election in one month

The Black Hand is outlawed and declared to be a terrorist organization

Markov is placed on two month probation-it would not be allowed to buy or develope any new weaponry and troops from Agrigento would do peacekeeping work, though Markov should be able to keep its military

The President of Markov is indicted for war crimes and tried before a panel of judges from Crosshill, New Empire, Agriento, Pain and Misery, and The Corleones- Nuremburg style Court

If after the two month probation period if the new government of Markov has cooperated to its fullest, Agrigento should pull out. If Markov doesn't cooperate there should be a full military take over by a coalition of nations to rebuild a responsible government.

Some Ideas
The Corleones
Markov
12-12-2003, 04:00
Subject: Adressing the leaders of all involved nations.
From: The President of The Republic of Markov
Unencrypted: 197765-3 PU

The Markovian government will not cooperate with any of the proposed requests of The Corleones. However, we reviewed the New Empire's reparations and have decided to comply. It will be a difficult task to remove all Black Hand officials from office. We may require assistance in doing so because General Olsen is still in command of a good portion of our military. I fear this may turn into a war within Markov. The only answer to this is to kill General Olsen when he's off guard. That will prevent a full scale war.

Respectively,

The President of The Republic of Markov,
David T. Hein
http://www.freewebs.com/markov/Markovlogo18.JPG

*$ 3 billion wired to the United City States of New Empire*
Crosshill
12-12-2003, 13:03
Sometimes I wonder what kind of a nation Markov is. So you are telling us to help you to assassinate one of your citizens? You are aware that this is murder, and that it is illegal to kill him without trail even if your nation has the death penalty?

Crosshill will by no means support this assassination attempt (the second in a very short period coming from the office of one Mr. Hein). We would rather see this men removed from office.

We certainly don't want a civil war in Markov but this looks like a dirty trick Mr. Hein is pulling on us. The minute Olson is dead, the Black Hand will point at foreign powers and blame them. Thereby increasing their popularity. To prevent a civil war just cut off the ammunition supply for your troops. Only supply the most loyal forces. The ministry of interior affairs troops for example.

We agree with the Corleones that the persons responsible for the plotting must face trail. Reparations are a good and so is the disband of the black hand. But the international community cannot allow the masterminds of the assassination attempts to go unpunished. Mr. Hein and his companions must be handed over to an international body. They will be guaranteed a fair trail and there will be no death penalty for any of the accused.

To make the decisions for Markov a bit easier Crosshill will do the following:

Force Trade Sanctions against Markov Erect a Sea Blockade against Markov Freeze all Government offshore accounts Freeze the Private accounts of Mr. Hein

We hope that this will help you to bring this to an end.
12-12-2003, 13:43
The united city shall pay for its acts of treson. This is a warning be aware be very aware....
New Empire
12-12-2003, 20:40
The united city shall pay for its acts of treson. This is a warning be aware be very aware....
Noob, what the F*ck are you talking about? It's united city states, genius, and I have not done anything wrong.

Crosshill- P&M and Markov are different people. But we agree this is a ploy to stir up anger against the UCSNE. We can provide naval blockade if necessary.
12-12-2003, 21:08
Subject: Adressing the leaders of all involved nations.
From: The President of The Republic of Markov
Unencrypted: 197765-3 PU

The Markovian government will not cooperate with any of the proposed requests of The Corleones. However, we reviewed the New Empire's reparations and have decided to comply. It will be a difficult task to remove all Black Hand officials from office. We may require assistance in doing so because General Olsen is still in command of a good portion of our military. I fear this may turn into a war within Markov. The only answer to this is to kill General Olsen when he's off guard. That will prevent a full scale war.

Respectively,

The President of The Republic of Markov,
David T. Hein
http://www.freewebs.com/markov/Markovlogo18.JPG

*$ 3 billion wired to the United City States of New Empire*
Markov,
We at least demand the same $3 billion and a non hostile government.
12-12-2003, 21:10
12-12-2003, 21:12
Subject: Adressing the leaders of all involved nations.
From: The President of The Republic of Markov
Unencrypted: 197765-3 PU

The Markovian government will not cooperate with any of the proposed requests of The Corleones. However, we reviewed the New Empire's reparations and have decided to comply. It will be a difficult task to remove all Black Hand officials from office. We may require assistance in doing so because General Olsen is still in command of a good portion of our military. I fear this may turn into a war within Markov. The only answer to this is to kill General Olsen when he's off guard. That will prevent a full scale war.

Respectively,

The President of The Republic of Markov,
David T. Hein
http://www.freewebs.com/markov/Markovlogo18.JPG

*$ 3 billion wired to the United City States of New Empire*
Markov,
We at least demand the same $3 billion and a non hostile government.
Markov
13-12-2003, 02:35
Subject: Adressing the leadet of the Nation of Crosshill
From: The President of The Republic of Markov
Unencrypted: 697768-3 PU

I am aware that killing him would be murder and would violate sections of the Markovian contitution, but it is the only way. If he he is given a trial he will simply mobilize his military forces and launch an all out attack against the government. The safest way to end this is to simply kill him without letting the public know.

Respectively,

The President of The Republic of Markov
David T. Hein
http://www.freewebs.com/markov/Markovlogo18.JPG
Markov
13-12-2003, 02:37
OOC: And, how can you shut down Hein's private accounts?? You don't have control over my banks.....
New Empire
13-12-2003, 03:00
Subject: Adressing the leadet of the Nation of Crosshill
From: The President of The Republic of Markov
Unencrypted: 697768-3 PU

I am aware that killing him would be murder and would violate sections of the Markovian contitution, but it is the only way. If he he is given a trial he will simply mobilize his military forces and launch an all out attack against the government. The safest way to end this is to simply kill him without letting the public know.

Respectively,

The President of The Republic of Markov
David T. Hein
http://www.freewebs.com/markov/Markovlogo18.JPG
And then the public blames us, rebels, some fanatics try to kill someone. And remember, Mr. Hein, you will be on trial as well.
New Empire
13-12-2003, 03:01
OOC: And, how can you shut down Hein's private accounts?? You don't have control over my banks.....
OOC-2 Hackers, a Wi-Fi link, and a 10 Thz Military Cryptology Supercomputer says we do.
Markov
13-12-2003, 03:54
OOC: Okok fine.....Will we RP the trial?
Agrigento
13-12-2003, 04:12
There is always the real cosa nostra.

Bruno Tataglia
Capo di Capi
Crosshill
13-12-2003, 15:28
First: Mr Hein is to face trail, together with Mr. Olson if he is involved in the plot against New Empire he must also be handed over.
Second: There will be no assassination. Never.
Third: The trail will be fair and the terms of the trail must be set by all the involved parties, including the accused.

That is all we have to say for now. As soon as Mr. Hein (and maybe Mr. Olson) along with all other involved in the plotting are in custody of one of the nations providing the judges the sanctions against Markov will be lifted.

Crosshill pays 2 million in reparation to P&M for the damage our last action has inflicted to them.

OOC: All my posts are to be regarded as statements of Crosshill officials. They are not 'Calling Damage' or something. That private accounts thing is merely a propaganda action. Like in: 'There are no American troops in Bagdad' or we will capture that Bin-Ladin guy within a week' If I would launch a hacker attack on your nation I would inform you and give you the opportunity to RP it with the proper counter measures. We are only able to freeze the money with is owned by Markov on accounts either in Crosshill or allied nations.
And, Yes: the trail should be RP-ed.
13-12-2003, 16:35
Lost in this is The Corleones reparations. We demand reparations or we will invade Markov.
New Empire
13-12-2003, 16:37
Lost in this is The Corleones reparations. We demand reparations or we will invade Markov.
Woah, woah, woah... calm down. I'll make sure you get repartations.
Crosshill
13-12-2003, 19:24
We I was a bit fast... New Empire shall decide what is to happen with markov and the criminals. We will support any action you take. If you agree with the trail we will continue. If you oppose it we will stop.
New Empire
13-12-2003, 19:28
We will not imprison Hein, nor Olson, nor any other Black Hand members. We ask that they be exiled as soon as possible, with no violent action against them.
Crosshill
13-12-2003, 19:53
You don't have to imprison them, we can do that or any other neutral nation. But do you genreally agree on a trail?

It is not even certain that Hein or Olsen wil be imprisoned. They even have the chance to win in the trail but if the get sentenced we are abel to take them(even tohugh crosshill has no jails...)
New Empire
13-12-2003, 19:56
You don't have to imprison them, we can do that or any other neutral nation. But do you genreally agree on a trail?
Yes, but the jury should be from neutral nations like you, Ag, maybe people from CFA and APTO.
Crosshill
13-12-2003, 20:00
I agree on that; plus Markov (Hein) must have a fair chance to defend them self, bring wittnesses or even a Lawyer from other nations. But first Hein and all other suspects must be handed over.
House Corino
13-12-2003, 23:52
House Corino wishes to send a delegate to be on the proposed trail board.

OOC- I assume this trial will be held in the UCSNE? Is this a war-crimes tribunal, a standard crime court or what? Aka what are we talking in rules of representation and law procedure?
Kajiraki
14-12-2003, 12:18
I wish to offer my nation as a place for this court to be held. All parties involved would be put up in the Watter Lily hotel in Yokohama, and all forms of recreation will be covered by the government. Seeing as that my nation has yet to be seriously involved in this matter, I believe that we are, in a sense, the perfect location.

Empress Ryoko Kajiraki
New Empire
14-12-2003, 14:29
Yes, this will work. The trial will occur in Kajiraki.
OOC-I'm assuming this will be a standard trial, just with very important people. There was no war, hence no war crimes.
Crosshill
14-12-2003, 16:16
All right we should now make up the details of the court. How many judges, a jury or no, defence, and all that. We hope that Mr. Hein and his companions are already in Kajiraki, other wise we have to increase the pressur. Sometimes complete darkness helps in making good decisions.
New Empire
14-12-2003, 16:54
1 Judge, at least 4 jury...

I dunno about defense...
Crosshill
14-12-2003, 16:56
The Judge from Kajiraki, the jury?
New Empire
14-12-2003, 17:01
The Judge from Kajiraki, the jury?
You, Ag, someone from APTO, someone else (Maybe CFA)?
Crosshill
14-12-2003, 17:13
All right I am in, so we wait for the others and for Mr. Hein!
Kajiraki
14-12-2003, 17:13
I did not plan on having a memeber of my nation serve as judge as our view of the justice system is quite differnt from the rest of the worlds, I assure you that. However, should you feel that I should provide the judge, I will do so with honor.

Empress Ryoko Kajiraki
Anti-Nazis
14-12-2003, 17:27
We have assasins in the country of New Empire, poised to assasinate the New Empirian president. This is a pre-emptive strike, in defense of our allies. They will assist with this attack once your president has been killed.

La cosa Nostra,

Don Michael Corleone

I'm not going to be invovled in this war,but WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU GOING TO SEND AGAINST THEM.
New Empire
14-12-2003, 17:28
We have assasins in the country of New Empire, poised to assasinate the New Empirian president. This is a pre-emptive strike, in defense of our allies. They will assist with this attack once your president has been killed.

La cosa Nostra,

Don Michael Corleone

I'm not going to be invovled in this war,but WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU GOING TO SEND AGAINST THEM.
READ THE WHOLE THREAD, DUMBA__!
Sorry, but really, shut up and read the whole thing.
New Empire
14-12-2003, 17:29
I did not plan on having a memeber of my nation serve as judge as our view of the justice system is quite differnt from the rest of the worlds, I assure you that. However, should you feel that I should provide the judge, I will do so with honor.

Empress Ryoko Kajiraki
Well, if you aren't uncomfortable with it, I'd like a Kajiraki to do it.
Crosshill
14-12-2003, 22:18
We are fine with a Kajiraki as judge, but we have to repeat: No Death Penalty!
15-12-2003, 00:08
The Corleones express pleasure in the nations wishing to serve as judges on the tribunal. The Corleones also would like to state their support for capital punishment in such a case. We are also getting frustrated at the fact that Markov STILL has yet to give reparations. We request reparations by 4:30pm EST hours or we will undergo millitary operations to forcefully extract reparations from Markov.
Markov
15-12-2003, 02:33
IC-

Hein gets up from his chair in his office and motions for the guard to leave. He sits back down and dials the video-feed number of the secretary of state.

"Hello?"
"It's Hein, we have a problem."
"Whats going on?"
"Let's just say we're all gonna need real good lawyers...."
"Why? What happened?"
"New Empire has requested that all the members of the formar Black Hand go on trial for terrorist activities in Kajiraki."
"Damn......Have you told Olsen?"
"No, not yet......."
"He's not going to like it"
"No shit......"
"He has to comply though."
"So what are we gonna do?"
"I'm calling a meeting for the members of the formar rigime in an hour......be there......."
"Ok Mr. President, see you then."
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New Empire
15-12-2003, 02:59
Markov, you should deliver those repartations for getting the Corleones involved in this.

This will be enforced by GOD if neccessary. The LORD is watching you.
OOC-Heh... I love doing that to those "Catholic" nations.
GOD- Geosync Orbital Destruction- A rod of uranium about 9 feet long dropped from high orbit=Hiroshima-radiation.
LORD-Low Orbit Recon Drone.
15-12-2003, 03:02
This is a pre-emptive strike, in defense of our allies.

Pre-emptive defense, makes sense to me :lol:

::pledges all 12 of his soldiers to the aid of New Empire::
Crosshill
15-12-2003, 06:25
We wait for the end of the meeting. If the suspects are willing to face trail we lift the sanctions.
Kajiraki
15-12-2003, 07:54
There is no death penalty in Kajiraki, so to say, but the only penalty for crimes commited is death. Those who commit a crime are either to commit seppuku, or live forever with great shame. So, should teh Markovians be found guilty, they will be offered the choice of seppuku or a life of shame. Should the choose a life of shame, we have some older prison facilities left over from the Second Great War (WWII) that we can accomodate to hold the Markovians.
Markov
15-12-2003, 17:30
*$ 3 billion wired to The Corleone Crime family for reparations*
Pain and Misery
15-12-2003, 17:33
YOu finally wised up you stubborn dumbass.
15-12-2003, 17:33
The Corleones are happy with the reparation situation and decides to leave Markov's fate to the tribunal.
Pain and Misery
16-12-2003, 02:59
I, as a past member of the CFA, will be a judge as to Markov's fate, if this will still continue as it was.
Crosshill
16-12-2003, 10:44
So we need one more for the jury and the defence for Mr. Hein than we are ready.
Kajiraki
16-12-2003, 16:23
Are we gonna start another thread for the trial?
Crosshill
16-12-2003, 17:00
I would prefere to...