NationStates Jolt Archive

This Jet was sopposed to be a jet that the pilot only had to think and the plan would do what he thought. It also was soposed to have 2 nuclear bombs and machine guns and go mach 4 but i was told i didn't have enough technology. So help me get this plan more down to earth.

:roll:

*waits for the jet to fly overhead and shoots it down to earth*

okie dokie. Firstly, lets gtone it down to mach 2.5 maximum. Secondly, no thought control unless a benevolent future tech nation wants to donate to the cause and thirdly, capacity to carry nukes is to vague, it should have at least 1 15mm cannon, 2 missile pods( maybe more) and a few fuel pods. Also, a picture of what you propose is good. take a look around at some of the storefronts around to see what i mean. But, in the meantime, here is 50 Billion NSD to get the plans into cation.

let's see, drop the two items of nuclear weaponry, cut the speed down to mach 2, use a convential pilot/aircraft interface.

that, or you can wait a couple of rl monthes and then see if the proposed specs will fly then.

Dont put a 15mm cannon on a plane lol, a 20mm M61 Vulcan would be better, and the speed limit is mach 3 not 2.5. And there is nothing wrong with nuclear weapons carrying capability, many real life planes, the A-4 Skyhawk for example, were desgined specifically to caryy nukes.

Austinell is a world leader in defence give us 125,000,000 and we will produce a expairmental plain for your country

Prince Dar-lou
Head of Austinell Defence

*waits for the jet to fly overhead and shoots it down to earth*

HEH,HEH,HEH

ok *125,000,000 Wired*

Dont put a 15mm cannon on a plane lol, a 20mm M61 Vulcan would be better, and the speed limit is mach 3 not 2.5. And there is nothing wrong with nuclear weapons carrying capability, many real life planes, the A-4 Skyhawk for example, were desgined specifically to caryy nukes.

Most modern fighters fly between Mach 1.6(F-5E) and Mach 2.75(MiG 31). Anything faster then the MiG 31 is too fast to be of tactical use, even the MiG 31 is only useful as a long range interceptor. Most strike planes are slower. Close support and COIN slower still.

First decide what you want your aircraft's main role to be. Personally for armaments I'd have 1x M61A1 Vulcan if you use mostly American tech, 1x GSh 30-1 or GSh 23-2 or 23-6 if you use Russian tech or 2x 27mm Mausers if you use mainly Euro tech. A 15mm cannon is far too small to use against other fighters, not to mention tanks and bombers and other harder to destroy targets. As for armaments I'll leave that up to you, nuclear capable is a good thing, but normally you will be fighting with conventional munitions, so make sure it can carry a mixture of air to air and air to surface munitions as well as additional electronics and fuel tanks.

which would you say would be the best.

how much should it cost

A modern combat aircraft should be no less then $35 million(if its simple) and no more then $120 million(if its fast and stealthy and etc) If its good and you want it to sell.


EDIT: BTW the 20mm m61 Vulcan is supierior to all air-to-cannons and the ammo is readily availbe/ easier to produce.

which would you say would be the best.
I tend to use Russian tech, or stuff based off of it.

A modern combat aircraft should be no less then $35 million(if its simple) and no more then $120 million(if its fast and stealthy and etc) If its good and you want it to sell.

More like $20 to $80 million. Less if it's a simple fighter, like the Hawk 200, an upgraded F-5, A-4 or MiG 21 or other aircraft in that class.

I think he is looking to design a "new" aircraft to rival the other top line aircraft of ns, from his orignal statement of what he wanted it to be able to do.

you are correct but i needed more simple ideas cause i didn't have the technologie

you are correct but i needed more simple ideas cause i didn't have the technologie

I could sell you a nice fighter. I used to use them, then moved on, this is an upgraded version of what I used.

F-5L/M Tiger

Primary Function: Light Tactical Fighter, Conversion Trainer and LTF(M model)
Contractor: Pan-Haaregradian Defence Institute
Power Plant: 2x TF525-420 9 500lbs thrust turbofan engine
Length: 46'6" (14.17 meters)
Height: 13'10" (4.25 meters)
Wingspan: 26'8" (8.13 meters)
Ceiling: 56 000' (17 075 meters)
Speed: Mach 2.1
Ferry Range: 1 600 miles (2 575km)
Empty Weight: 12 000lbs (5 440kg)
Maximum Takeoff Weight: 28 000lbs (12 700kg)
Armament: 2x GAU-25-1 25mm cannon, 2x AA-11 Adder SRAAM, up to 9 000lbs(4 082kg) of external stores including AA-11 Adder, AA-12 Archer AAMs, ARM-10 Killer ARM, many other ASMs, smart and dumb bombs, cannon pods, rocket pods, ECM pods and fuel tanks
Unit cost: $9 500 000USD
Crew: 1, 2 for M model

i'll take 1 of each

wait no i'll take 2 upgraded versions

wait no i'll take 2 upgraded versions

That's all that's available new anymore. Sold. They'll be there soon.

But i still need ideas

But i still need ideas

Look at older and newer planes then and get a feel for how a realistic plane should be like.

~Patoxia
I'm developing a plane (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=101282) too, and would appreciate help on it as as well. :wink: