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This is directed to all nations who would like to rid the world of terrorist and communist. This may very well launch us into World War, but why?

Already a nation leader has been attacked.
Innocent people are becoming victims because of their gov. being targets of terrorist.
Who are funding these people? Answerer: Communist
We need to join and form a giant iron fist, and crush these workers of the devil while we still can.
The United States of Grootsku has 50% of its budget going to military/defense to combat these demons. We encourage you to join us. Together we can and will liberate the terrorist infested countries and bring freedom to their people. We will destroy the founders of terror (communist), and set their people free as well.

Send a telle, or post below if you would like to be a part of freedom fighters.

Bayorta is a communist nation. Do you want to destroy us?

Regards,
Margaret Thatcher,
Foreign secretary,
Ministry of Foreign affairs

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Bayorta is a communist nation. Do you want to destroy us?

Regards,
Margaret Thatcher,
Foreign secretary,
Ministry of Foreign affairs

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Although we are STAUNCHLY Anti-Communist, as communism IS slavery, we choose to allow your life as you are led by a god, although i'm not sure how you got maggie T to go left.

Are you guys trying to start a big brwal hear ?

Although we are STAUNCHLY Anti-Communist, as communism IS slavery, we choose to allow your life as you are led by a god, although i'm not sure how you got maggie T to go left.

Uhhh.... equality is not slavery. BTW I am glad you were smart enough to avoid conflict :)

Regards,
Margaret Thatcher,
Foreign secretary,
Ministry of Foreign affairs

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So what nations are you targeting ?

"And I thought she wasn't for turning!"

-A surprised and slightly vexed PM (Tory) George Mainwaring, Walmington on Sea.

"Innocent people are becoming victims because of their gov. being targets of terrorist.
Who are funding these people? Answerer: Communist"


That, sir, is slander. Poorly spelled slander!

-CC N.Kezo.

PS. As a Consul of the People's Commonwealth it is my duty to inform you, the people and government of Grootsku, that aggression against more progressive (communist) peoples would most certainly bring about your downfall. And so say all of us.

I am against war. But Zervok will welcome 10 million refuges if war happens.

Terrorist, like to kill. They claim holy war. They say they fight for a "great cause". They want to achieve this through control of the people. How, by controlling ones mind through fear. Communist are no better then terrorist. How would you feel to be ruled by a commi? To work your hole life towards one career dream, and then be stripped of that dream to work were the government wants you. Do you need permission to piss and shit to? I wouldn’t doubt it. Communist are evil. They tell their people what to do. What makes them so special that they can control ones life. If you don’t agree to the communist you get shot. You protest, you die. Tell me how is this a good way of life. Also control by fear. For all the nations in a better state, with a government that is for the people by the people. It is our duty as civil human beings to rid the less fortunate people of such evil. Join us now, we will move quietly, swiftly and quickly. We will take no prisoners, the guilty shot on the spot, any opposing forces will be terminated. All innocent people, women and children, will be evacuated to a refugee camp already set up in the Nation of Grootsku. We will leave no one behind. We will help all those in need.

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why dont you try to deal with it peacebly .

I can undertsnd a war on terrorism however I can not understand a full blown war on people because they do not conform to the same as your nations beliefs to do so would make you no better then the oppression that some of these people ar faceing now. You would be changeing ones way to conform to your own thus forcing out one way of government to force in your own. Please understand I do not wish to cause any ill meens between any nations but create a better understanding of what is about to happen from anothers point of view. owever Terrorism is wrong it dose nothing but take the lives of innocent people to create social and political disorder. It posses no direction to keep peace or freedom it is just a tool of evil and is a true enemy of all of us.
Skeksis Nightflame
Speaker of the house of Parliment
Kingdom of Raukai

Because it does not work. It has already been tried. They lie, to buy time to build up their weapons. And begin an arsenal of mass destruction. Terrorist will achieve their goal even if death is the price to pay. The only way to deal with such people, is use of force. Communist, is known as a government. Previously stated that it would be wrong to force it out of existence. Why? It is not wrong. It doesn't represent the millions and millions of victims. It is the selected few who benefit from such a government. That my friend is not opinion, im simply stating the facts.

If you do a pre emante attack on a nation you could toutch off a varry blody conflict .

Because it does not work. It has already been tried. They lie, to buy time to build up their weapons. And begin an arsenal of mass destruction. Terrorist will achieve their goal even if death is the price to pay. The only way to deal with such people, is use of force. Communist, is known as a government. Previously stated that it would be wrong to force it out of existence. Why? It is not wrong. It doesn't represent the millions and millions of victims. It is the selected few who benefit from such a government. That my friend is not opinion, im simply stating the facts.you have no idea what a holy war is to these people. I am not defending terrorism, merely defending their beliefs. These people have lived and survived in one of the harshest landscapes known to man and they did this by clinging to their beliefs and religion.They believe in something so strongly that they would rather die trying to change this than live with it. Is this any different from any other soldier?

fasisim is the way to go here guys lets just be honest. I meen it helped the Roman Empire last for 1000 years,and then another 400 after that so come on,lets all be friends and fastists :D

You guys are going to get in to one large hornets nest ..

You guys are going to get in to one large hornets nest ..
and wont be abke to get out of it.

And how, may i ask, are you planning to house these 10 million refugees?

Why does everyone have to start wars? We had a car-bombing and it was sponsered by a nation. We locked the terrorist up and politely asked the nation not to sponser terrorists. They have stopped sposering terrorists altogether. (this is from our intelligence gathering, not what they told us.)

And how, may i ask, are you planning to house these 10 million refugees?

Why does everyone have to start wars? We had a car-bombing and it was sponsered by a nation. We locked the terrorist up and politely asked the nation not to sponser terrorists. They have stopped sposering terrorists altogether. (this is from our intelligence gathering, not what they told us.)
figuring that the war will start in a few NS years I figure my pop will be large enough then, to be able to quickly create housing for them. Plus I have ally nations who wouldd be willing to take some of them if it turns out I cant aaquatly handle them.

I dont think you really want to go ahead with this war.. the people your crusadeing against have a lot of support and i certianly wont help you in this war .

The Socialist States won't go down without a fight ....

I CALL UPON ALL SOCIALIST STATES TO JOIN A NEW REGION! the 'USS OF The New Answer'!

Read .... http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=101410

AND JOIN THE REGION AS PROPOSED ! WE CAN FIGHT THE CAPITALISM TOGTHER.

United We Stand, United We Thrive, United We Fight. 'The United Socialist States Of The New Answer' aim to fight the war against capitalism! Capital Needs Workers, But Workers Don't Need Capital. It is In the Strength Of Our Arms To Change the World. History and Change is Made By Man, Not By Destony Or The hand Of God!

...

But if your population is large enough wouldn't you want to build the housing for yourselves. Taking in refugees is a very hard process. You don't just build houses. You build refugee camps. If you built houses they would have to pay for running water and so on.

I think he ment thare relgion ...

Babylon Rising wrote: "I am not defending terrorism, merely defending their beliefs." You defend their beliefs? Their belief to hijack aircraft and crash them into a tower filled with non military personnel. Filled with innocent civilians. To take a non government or military aircraft, filled with innocent people, and crash it into a non military/government building to kill thousands of more innocent people. You defend their beliefs? Their belief to kill people because they do not have the same relgion. And you say that you defend their beliefs and not terrorism. Their beliefs are terrorism. You can not defend their beliefs and be against terrorism. You my friend, defend terrorism.

I think you mis interprted his meaning of that ...

The Kingdom of Raukai dose nt support the beliefs of or Terrorism I do understand the true meening of this I lost 2 family members in the attacks you speak of I also understand the military as I served in the Royal Marines for a number of years this is not a military it is terror we support none of this the Kingdom of Raukai will not take part in this war we will help refuges of this war if it was a war on terror itself I am sure are Parliment might take a different view on this matter
Skeksis Nightflame
house speaker of Parliment
Kingdom of Raukai

Babylon Rising wrote: "I am not defending terrorism, merely defending their beliefs." You defend their beliefs? Their belief to hijack aircraft and crash them into a tower filled with non military personnel. Filled with innocent civilians. To take a non government or military aircraft, filled with innocent people, and crash it into a non military/government building to kill thousands of more innocent people. You defend their beliefs? Their belief to kill people because they do not have the same relgion. And you say that you defend their beliefs and not terrorism. Their beliefs are terrorism. You can not defend their beliefs and be against terrorism. You my friend, defend terrorism.Don't twist my words. You have no clue what their beliefs are. All you know is that they kill. What are they killing for? You have no clue. Nor do you try to understand.You can not defend their beliefs and be against terrorism. You my friend, defend terrorism.Thats crap. I can too. I'm defending the people not the actions.I don't like how they defend their beliefs, but like I said they are just like every other soldier who is ready to fight and die for his country or beliefs or whatever.

Terroisum is not right no matter what its for . unless they attack you you have no reson to attack them.

I think that you should refrain from a pre-emptive strike. However, if you have exausted ALL other options, you must punish the terrorists and those who refuse to stop sponsering them.

Morgan,
Chief Economist
High Minister
Grand Protector
Morganio

Well your in for a long blody war if you start this you know .

I shall not back either side in this conflict, but I WILL aid inocent people, and if atrcocities of war [torture] are commited I WILL be biased in the side of the more innocent faction.

Morgan,
Chief Economist
Grand Protector
Moganio

Bayorta is a communist nation. Do you want to destroy us?

Regards,
Margaret Thatcher,
Foreign secretary,
Ministry of Foreign affairs

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Although we are STAUNCHLY Anti-Communist, as communism IS slavery,

Communism is exactly opposite of that. I pity you for your blatant ignorance and your ability to be swayed by propaganda so easily.

My friends, this war will be long & bloody. You have no idea of what you're getting into.

People of Morganio

Terrorist, like to kill. They claim holy war. They say they fight for a "great cause". They want to achieve this through control of the people. How, by controlling ones mind through fear. Communist are no better then terrorist. How would you feel to be ruled by a commi? To work your hole life towards one career dream, and then be stripped of that dream to work were the government wants you. Do you need permission to piss and shit to? I wouldn’t doubt it. Communist are evil. They tell their people what to do. What makes them so special that they can control ones life. If you don’t agree to the communist you get shot. You protest, you die. Tell me how is this a good way of life. Also control by fear. For all the nations in a better state, with a government that is for the people by the people. It is our duty as civil human beings to rid the less fortunate people of such evil. Join us now, we will move quietly, swiftly and quickly. We will take no prisoners, the guilty shot on the spot, any opposing forces will be terminated. All innocent people, women and children, will be evacuated to a refugee camp already set up in the Nation of Grootsku. We will leave no one behind. We will help all those in need.

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You sir, are an idiot. But to clarify, you are thinking of the form of government known as Stalinism, which the American and Wester Mind has been infused with in place of Communism.

Lisen to Morganio's wrainings . you dont want to get in to this .

We shouldnt have War. Things should be able to be solved in an easier and less harmful way. Im mean talk about problems dont just cowardly open fire. A lot of things that people have went to war for would have been a lot easier to talk about.

Communism is so ineffective in every thing it does. IMO it is not slavery, just a terrible system.

In the Soviet Union every worker is a government worker, and they have a saying: "As long as the bosses pretend to pay us, we will pretend to work"

In a command economy the people lose all work ethic, all motivation, and that breeds economic hardship.

Buy the way the cold war ended years ago if communist states want to be communist so be it i have no problem with them liveing thare own lives just dont try to infrige ideals on others.

Communism is so ineffective in every thing it does. IMO it is not slavery, just a terrible system.

In the Soviet Union every worker is a government worker, and they have a saying: "As long as the bosses pretend to pay us, we will pretend to work"

In a command economy the people lose all work ethic, all motivation, and that breeds economic hardship.

Yes, whatever form of government called "communism" was ineffective. HOWEVER. True Communism has never existed anywhere in the world.

Buy the way the cold war ended years ago if communist states want to be communist so be it i have no problem with them liveing thare own lives just dont try to infrige ideals on others.

Goddammit, can you tell that to all 6 million Americans?

[Yes, whatever form of government called "communism" was ineffective. HOWEVER. True Communism has never existed anywhere in the world.

Never said it did...and further more I think it never will. Its just impossible.

Im shure come time they will relize it .

As long as Russians are still called "Commies" or "Reds" there will be ingorance across America and Western states..

As long as Russians are still called "Commies" or "Reds" there will be ingorance across America and Western states..

And as long as Americans are called Capitalist I will continue to call Soviets Commies and Reds

Its the same thing......

I my self am from the USA .. but ive learnd to except other ways of vewing things . Al tho i wouldint chose communisum as my goverment others are free to have thare own goverment no matter what any body says about it . and you cant declare war on some one just becuse they are a comunist state.

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Our council has decided that the proofs about terrorism and their association with Communist states aren't enough to declare a war .

We refuse to support such a war , but if it happens we will give aid to the refugees .

Our council has decided that the proofs about terrorism and their association with Communist states aren't enough to declare a war .

We refuse to support such a war , but if it happens we will give aid to the refugees .

Grootsku, the WTC Bombings was not spawned by religious fanatiscism.

That was when George Dubbya decided to end the Taliban regime. Osama Bin Laden then declared Jiihad. The Bombings were spawned by a group of extremists who believed that a system of democracy as powerful, yet as corrupt as America's, should be made to see, in their eyes, truth.

Under no circumstances did they attack the towers for religious reasons. They did not dislike America because of the amazingly large amount of Christians within. They disliked them because of influence America exuded upon the region of and surrounding Afghanistan.

And if it was for such reasons, then perhaps one should look at the crusades - Christianity as a whole tried to wipe out a highly advanced civilisation because of the differing beliefs they held. ALthough that is a very stark view on the crusades, I believe that would be ample reason enough to hate Western influence, no?

Our council has decided that the proofs about terrorism and their association with Communist states aren't enough to declare a war .

We refuse to support such a war , but if it happens we will give aid to the refugees .

Communist Rule I now consider you some what of an allie .

Cheers..

Grootsku, the WTC Bombings was not spawned by religious fanatiscism.

That was when George Dubbya decided to end the Taliban regime. Osama Bin Laden then declared Jiihad. The Bombings were spawned by a group of extremists who believed that a system of democracy as powerful, yet as corrupt as America's, should be made to see, in their eyes, truth.

Under no circumstances did they attack the towers for religious reasons. They did not dislike America because of the amazingly large amount of Christians within. They disliked them because of influence America exuded upon the region of and surrounding Afghanistan.

And if it was for such reasons, then perhaps one should look at the crusades - Christianity as a whole tried to wipe out a highly advanced civilisation because of the differing beliefs they held. ALthough that is a very stark view on the crusades, I believe that would be ample reason enough to hate Western influence, no?

Grootsku, the WTC Bombings was not spawned by religious fanatiscism.

That was when George Dubbya decided to end the Taliban regime. Osama Bin Laden then declared Jiihad. The Bombings were spawned by a group of extremists who believed that a system of democracy as powerful, yet as corrupt as America's, should be made to see, in their eyes, truth.

Under no circumstances did they attack the towers for religious reasons. They did not dislike America because of the amazingly large amount of Christians within. They disliked them because of influence America exuded upon the region of and surrounding Afghanistan.

And if it was for such reasons, then perhaps one should look at the crusades - Christianity as a whole tried to wipe out a highly advanced civilisation because of the differing beliefs they held. ALthough that is a very stark view on the crusades, I believe that would be ample reason enough to hate Western influence, no?than you that was what i meant...beliefs

Well, to be precise. Osama did what he did because America screw3ed over Afghanistan with the first Gulf War. Afghanistan was gonna invade and take the oil pipe but, the yanks did it first and the iraqis destroyed Afghanistans oi8l supply. That pawned hatred for the nation which supported it during the cold war.

I dont think this is ment for this forum this is International Incidents
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I have grown to an understanding, that communist rule may not be as horrible as previously stated. However we still are preparing to liberate all terrorist infested nations. All communist who are found guilty of funding terrorist will have the same done to them. We are launching a full scale war on all nations that commit acts of terrorism and/or support terrorist. We apologize to all communist nations who do not support terrorist. There was a big misunderstanding, and again I apologize for that. But now not later, we must act NOW. We need to identify these nations and destroy them. Then rebuild them for the people who were victims of such terrorist Join us now, in a war against terrorism.

Ok dig your own grave . just dont attack Communist Rule . hes one of my allies .

OOC: This sounds a lot like the protesting made against Bush when he went through with his plan to fiddle with the regime in Iraq... :lol:

IC: Grootsku, I realize you have "apologized" for what you stated about Communist/Socialist regimes, but it seems to me that many of you fail to realize that the people of many Communist nations, such as my people, actually favor the government type that rules over them. Look at my nation, you'll see that they are "fiercely patriotic and enjoy great social equality". Doesn't that sound good to you, or is that just more blatant propaganda from the depths of hell, with Lenin himself writing the words? People, let's not be ignorant...Get real and take a good look at the nations you accuse of being immoral and corrupt. I may not have a perfect, or ideal, nation, but you better be damn sure, my people would repel any foreign soldiers that set foot on Bosnian soil with intent of changing their lifestyle just as much as our military would, and if not that, they would protest and voice their anger at such actions.

As far as Communists supporting terrorism, that's BS. For one thing, Communists wouldn't have any reason to support it because Communism (as I've learned) is anti-religious, and from what I've seen, terrorism is a way for many smaller regions with (namely) Islamic beliefs to defend themselves. I certainly haven't seen any Communist nations funding smaller Islamic countries so they can declare jihad on the infidels. It just doesn't go that way. Yes, the Soviet Union DID sell weapons, and probably still does, to the Middle-East, but does that mean they support terrorism? No, it was a way to keep their economy alive and their people working. The only true supporting the Soviet Union did was seen in Vietnam, where the NVA was undoubtedly backed by the USSR. There have been other Communist regimes that the USSR supported, but I'd be going on forever if I was to continue this.

But please, next time do some research on what you're about to put down so you can back up what flies out of your mouth. Remember: "It is better to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and prove it".

Premier Mikhail Andropov,
Federated Socialist Republic of Bosnia-Herzegovina

UN Delegate of the International Union of Soviets

I read the manifesto, I honestly don't see how Pure Communism can ever truly work.

Pure Communism can't ever work, but it is possible to implement various elements of Socialism into a system that uses other parts of other systems to create an economy that does work and is mostly Socialist. I'm sure that's what China has done, otherwise they probably wouldn't have remained Communist as long as they have, especially with their gigantic population.

As long as Russians are still called "Commies" or "Reds" there will be ingorance across America and Western states..

And as long as Americans are called Capitalist I will continue to call Soviets Commies and Reds

Its the same thing......

You must understand that American IS a capitalist nation! They even call themselves capitalist! Do some research and don't be ignorant.