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OOC:

I'm glad the call for stalling this scenario has been recognized ;)

When the time comes, I will make a new thread, linked to this one of course. The new one will be invite-only, I think - Don't fret, however! I will review all posts by all nations, and if I see nothing out of the expected, you will all be invited. New nations may also join, but also only by invitation. In addition, I might ignore some of the many posts have not been able to respond to, if they involve significant tactical or material loss on my side.

The reason for this is that I have invested very much of my writing efforts in the Commonwealth, and it is now a nation very rich in culture(and background material :)) - This thread was originally just going to be a short uprising, followed by a coup and ending with a new, consolidated and powerful secular party in charge of the dictatorship. However, as we all know, blowing the status quo to hell is just too much fun to pass up!

For the reason stated above, however, I will also maintain a certain degree of carte blanche on the ultimate fate of my nation. Of course I will not directly veto RP posts, but I might object to certain things happening(such as, say, wide-scale annexation of my lands or nuclear warheads detonating left and right), just like I will state my OOC opinion on things I consider unrealistic.

Well, that's it! I hope I don't come off as too much of a bitching mother :wink:

That being said, don't ever take a job sorting mail at the graveyard shift(11:30pm-5:30am), even IF the pay is good :D

Happy consumer hell!

Tias,
alias African Commonwealth, DRAC Maoist Resistance, Red Scandinavia and Neo-Anarchos.

OOC OOC OOC:

Okay, now I've actually gotten around to reading most of the posts in the thread, and before we continue it(on the 26th), there are some things I would like to adress, and some I'm just commenting - I'm in a bit of a hurry, so if I missed anything that might answer the questions I'm asking, bear with me ;)

Promise of Joshua>> What exactly was the reason for attempting to sink my carriers? if you want the Banat officers inside my country, destroying my harbors and invading the Commonwealth to find them will prove fruitless - Try to contact the Secular party instead.

If it was just to prove a point to an evil, albeit catholic, dictatorship such as my own, I'm a bit stumped as to why you didn't seek a diplomatic solution first - The Commonwealth and it's allies will not react kindly to the loss of many billion dollars worth of material.

Edolia>> Unless you have some future-techish missile shield or MANY anti-ballistic missiles, you've put yourself in quite a pickle. AC is an international producent of IR and IC ballistic missiles, and is more than capable of sending 100 Black Titan ICBMs within the hour - over the world and on top of Karlen's head ;)

Roycelandia>> Nice one with the colony - Is it genuinely to collect medicinal flowers, or are you trying to expand your borders? In the first case, I'm sure the African health care corporations would want in on the action - we can make some serious bread on that. In the latter case, however, me and Lusaka may just get Zulu warrior on your ass :D

DR_Twist and Wohlstand>> Are you sure you want in on this? I can understand you want to join in the RP, but you might want to take only a diplomatic or advisory role in this tussle - There is no realistic reason to throw a big force halfway across the globe to fight some country most in your nation has never heard of anyway...?

Chinkawa>> Hey, Hannibal! Er du frisk på denneher fight? De fleste deltagende har over 500 millioner indbyggere, og er nok pænt nasty ;)

Laterness!

Tias.

Yes, the Colony really is there to collect medicinal flowers. Imperial Scientists are doing preliminary tests to determine if the flower is as promising as it seems.

The idea is to save the revelation until the last moment- of course Roycelandia will let others in on the program (and some of the profits), but not before our pharmaceutical companies have established the product.

Of course, Border Expansion is always desirable to any Empire, but it's not the primary reason for Port Imperial's existence. (Although I'd be lying if I said it wasn't part of it... :wink:)

I was going to post an IC post after you got back... but I'll probably wait until the new thread on the 26th.

And the discovery of Uranium under the Colony is purely coincidental... :wink:

I'm willing to have a little naval RP with any of the anti-Socialist nations with assets in the region.

Also, can we get a map?

Roycelandia has a few maritime assets (ie a Carrier Airship, a couple of sqaudrons of fighter/bombers, and some Flying Boats on anti-shipping duties) in the area. We'd be interested in a Naval RP- it could be quite fun...

ooc:Maps are somewhat sketchy and conflicting. The regional map is horribly out of date, tiny, and lists Lusaka as Luanda. Plus non-RPing nations take up a lot of AC's land on it. I think AC posted his own map early on, didn't he? I stopped hosting the Lusaka map a while ago, as I hadn't the bandwidth, as it happens. I'll see if it's still on a largely defunct and pretty much non-lusakan site.. and it is! http://groups.msn.com/NSRalishohan/maps.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=36

(Aren't we glad Lusaka doesn't call in ooc associates to annex all anti-socialist parties? ;) )

To the south..west, I think, is hostile Rhodesia and Nyasaland, and the western border is New Lusaka City's opinion of where the Lusaka/AC boundry lies. As you can see, it is a huge chunk of land in our terms, and the chances of us letting foreigners take it are..well not all that high, lets say. Most of our NS neighbours died off- Lumbosa for example. That's why there are so many blank nations around.

I'm willing to have a little naval RP with any of the anti-Socialist nations with assets in the region.

Also, can we get a map?

We have a naval battlegroup stationed about 100-200 kilometers from what coastline AC has, and we're most certainly pro-socialist. Perhaps we could coordinate?

1-2 more battlegroups may arrive later.

Promise of Joshua>> What exactly was the reason for attempting to sink my carriers? if you want the Banat officers inside my country, destroying my harbors and invading the Commonwealth to find them will prove fruitless - Try to contact the Secular party instead.

If it was just to prove a point to an evil, albeit catholic, dictatorship such as my own, I'm a bit stumped as to why you didn't seek a diplomatic solution first - The Commonwealth and it's allies will not react kindly to the loss of many billion dollars worth of material.

ooc: I sought the same diplomatic solution that Dra-pol sought before massacering over 30,000 of my people. Remember that you were and continue to be his ally in his genocidial ways. This is nothing more than payback served cold. As to the so called "invasion" 24 people in the disputed zone is not an invasion and it is not on any recongnized turf of yours. As to the second point, too bad. POJ already looks less than kindly upon your nation. (the above could and maybe should be ic as it is a perfectly valid ic reason for coming aboard.)

We have a naval battlegroup stationed about 100-200 kilometers from what coastline AC has, and we're most certainly pro-socialist. Perhaps we could coordinate?

1-2 more battlegroups may arrive later.

Our fleet, other than the subs that carried out the attack, is off the Lusakian coast. I could dispatch another group for the rp or just just use the subs. I would enjoy a naval rp. Check your t-grams BTW. I'll post the diplomatic portion once we resume.

ooc: I sought the same diplomatic solution that Dra-pol sought before massacering over 30,000 of my people. Remember that you were and continue to be his ally in his genocidial ways. This is nothing more than payback served cold. As to the so called "invasion" 24 people in the disputed zone is not an invasion and it is not on any recongnized turf of yours. As to the second point, too bad. POJ already looks less than kindly upon your nation. (the above could and maybe should be ic as it is a perfectly valid ic reason for coming aboard.)

Jeebers. Well. I suppose those are valid reasons, although I might add that the Commonwealth responds well to diplomatic and economic pressure at the moment, due to the pressed situation with it's regional "allies".

Well, so long as we're ooc, that particular slaughter was of military personnel engaged in the armed invasion of Drapoel soil, so in all honesty far from being enraged POJ ought to be humbly and quietly glad that the Choson People's Republic did not pursue justified retribution by following up its initial victory with a counter-attack on the POJ homeland :D

One never knows, following up this vendetta half way across the world may just be too much insult on top of the injury of invasion, and Joshuan days may be numbered should harm come to the Banat by their hand..

I'm willing to have a little naval RP with any of the anti-Socialist nations with assets in the region.

Also, can we get a map?

We have a naval battlegroup stationed about 100-200 kilometers from what coastline AC has, and we're most certainly pro-socialist. Perhaps we could coordinate?

1-2 more battlegroups may arrive later.

We should rendevous, perhaps Rear Admiral Ukavoch should meet up with your naval leader in the region.

Well, so long as we're ooc, that particular slaughter was of military personnel engaged in the armed invasion of Drapoel soil, so in all honesty far from being enraged POJ ought to be humbly and quietly glad that the Choson People's Republic did not pursue justified retribution by following up its initial victory with a counter-attack on the POJ homeland :D

One never knows, following up this vendetta half way across the world may just be too much insult on top of the injury of invasion, and Joshuan days may be numbered should harm come to the Banat by their hand..

you sir are free to do what you will as "harm" is the least of what I have planned for the Banat in the disputed zone. BTW look to your own home borders. We understand that things are not going well for you there. HBF and Quinntonia send you XMas greetings :twisted:

Is this naval RP a recognized part of the Commonwealth conflict? If so, please notify me. I am beginning the next thread like I did this one, with some of my own fiction.

this has gottan a bit confusing could people please tell me where they are, whose side they are on and whatds going on lol sorry

<<dunce

(I think the end of this thread would be a good time for me to get out, rather than doing so in the middle of the next one..)

Having never made it far south of Burundi, the small Banat contingent finally receives its orders- withdraw.

Though it may take weeks to arrive, the hundred odd most ruthless beings in Africa begin on their way home, not one amongst them so much as grumbling over the wasted effort.


(It's nothing personal, just that we may have rather time and resource consuming things to attend to back home..I expect the next thread will be quite active too, and likely will only get left behind. I shall try to keep in touch with general proceedings. Cheers!)

Dra-pol>> No sweat, man. Please stay in touch, I might need Dra-Pol supplies and political support, if nothing else ;)

As the choppers flared and descended into the disputed zone, the members of the strike team debarked with their gear. Conspicuously absent were the normal M16s or CAR15s the commandos carried. Their pistols, gear and several long objects in padded bags seemed to be theonly weapons present other then 2 squad automatic weapons (M249s)

Lt Li take point

Lt Li moved out with her team in advance. She (as well as most of her team) could pass for people from the Dalenian/Dra-pol peninsula which was good considering thats where many of their families came from. the other team looked like an local Africian commando team (maybe with more carried gear than some) .


Hell, thought Capt Wittmann; people will think I'm a lost Euro tourist that fell in with a bad crowd if we get into a firefight.

Well I am in with a really bad crowd and thats a good thing right now

The team had gone to ground shortly after the Edolian missiles passed overhead when the sky seemed to fill with AA and SAM missiles and also maybe.. aircraft.?!. The reply to the burst transmission came quickly so Capt. Wittmann got his team moving again. This time they were heading around Port Imperial by going NE and staying under cover as much as possible.

When we get to the Northern side. Then we execute

That pretty much would be in keeping with the first part of their orders.

As the team got to their rally point N of Port Imperial; they went to ground as Capt Wittmann sent Lt Li forward to observe Port Imperial with 3 men. The team had done an excellent job avoiding detection as that was their primary mission parameter.

ooc: I am acting as if they do not yet know of Dra-pol's withdrawal as POJ leadership wouldn't know yet either.

ooc: :) very good. We'll see if we can't get a few of your men killed by various Congalese ailments before you give up!

Sorry ;) Dra-pol may become somehow involved again later if I can get the Hamhung thing settled.

OOC:

Dra-pol>> That's CongoLESE to you. Africa reprazent, dawg :)

Everyone>>

Okay, so I might need an additional day or two to get the new thread off ground - Don't worry though, it will be very much worth it.

A quick overview of the current state of the Commonwealth and Africa in general:

Tensions are on the rise, new borders are forming and noone wants to left out, with General Ndelebe(it is generally thought he will replace the now dying dictator Nwabudike James), President Igomo and the yet-unknown leader of the Chinkawan empire all out to define as much land as their own as they possibly can.

A maoist menace, aided by democratic rebels and foreign forces are losing troops fast with the loss of their connection to mainland communes at Point Equality. With the massive aid of imperial, libertarian and fascist troops, it is practically history. However, new threats loom on the horizon:

Edolia and Anhierach, has taken the defeat of forces for revolution and change inside the Commonwealth as a personal loss in good, fierce socialist conscience. With popular support, they now wish a change of blows with the Commonwealth, possibly with the intent to occupy and/or infiltrate the nation.

Soviet Haaregrad, Hrstrovika(did I get right?), being old allies of Lusaka, is now aiding the United African Repulic militarily, not wanting their aid-receiving socialist nation to lose ground in the face of agressive Commonwealth diplomacy. With the impending return of the disputed(former rebel) lands to Lusaka the situation may be defused, unless Igomo has further-reaching ambitions?

Acting in good christian ambition, the Promise of Joshua has come to the Commonwealth in pursuit of the heathen communist forces of Dra-pol. Acting against African Commonwealth for the nation's part in the Dra-pol conflict, it has decided to attack the most expensive carriers in the Commonwealth Naval Defense - If this decision is not aborted at the last moment((as I am a bit hoping POJ's player will retract it)), this will undoubtedly lead to a bilateral declaration of bloody murder from Commonwealth high command and alied nation.

Roycelandia, while a sound bastion of support for the opressive yet conservative and righteous land of African Commonwealth; has not been playing with all cards open ~ The "Port Imperial" is currently being excused to the Secular Party as a medical research facility and supply base for imperial troops remaining inside the nation, but it does not appear to the suspicious and all-pervasive African intelligence corps and secret police as a coincidence that the colony is located right on top of uranium reserves and in a relatively unpopulated Commonwealth area ripe with tea, diamonds, cobalt and zink.

These are possible contenders for the Commonwealth.
Below are those that might still aid the Commonwealth in return for military support, ideological semblance and/or trading contracts:

Dra-pol,
Das Uber-Deutchland,
Old Britannia,
Kilean.
Roycelandia and Lusaka, despite the above.

But that is but my view of the situation - Where do you peeps want this to go?

OOC:

(Woops. I think from the number of smilies used we can see that I was a tad tipsy when I posted that)

Dra-pol is looking to resolve the Hamhung situation with a long term ceasefire at home- if this comes to pass the CPRD will be back in Africa to protect their own interests, as several percent of the struggling republic's trade originates there- the idea of members of the so called Crusader Coalition (POJ) gaining influence would not be something DaKhiem could stomach.

What..who.. is Kilean?

..Right, I'll just go and look them up.

OOC:

Libertarian police state - Gun nuts too, as far as I can see ;)

They are staunch anti-communists and have aided AC out of a desire to crush the marxists. It is unsure wether they would like the CPRD. I don't think so... I am also not sure wether the player is active anymore, at least in this thread he doesn't seem to be.

Your assessment of Roycelandia and Port Imperial's position is spot-on. As you say, we're on your side- and we still maintain Port Imperial's placement is coincidence... :wink:

ooc: as my sub attack against your carriers was followed on by an attack by surface ships of Anhierach I don't think it appropriate to withdraw the missile and torpedo strike.

ic edit: The POJ ambassafor to Anhierach delivers a message to the Naval attache.

Perhaps we could coordinate forces in the AC theatre going forward? We have, what we consider, to be a substantial submarine commitment there in additional to our CBG working with forces present off the Lusakian coast.

old brittania is an imperial force, we are here to mark that imperialism is not yet dead and can deal a sever blow, however we are not here to colonise the african commonwealth, we are here to extract trade and in particular diamonds from the rich mines of the southern african continent.

if i can help in anyway just let me know, brittanian is also involved in a scuffle over the falkland isles, so much brittanic armour and might is over there suring up the situation, but we expect that to end soon, at which point there will be a few more ships heading over here lol.

yeah..

With surprisingly little bureacracy, the message reaches the ears of the Overseer of the Divison of Security, Ejai Telenu. Mulling over it for a moment, she briefly vid-conferences with the rest of the Synod for approval.

Once secured, she issues several messages to the relevant military officers - including, interestingly, the Coordinator of the Network Defense Division.

A message is duly delivered to the PoJ ambassador, signalling their willingness to coordinate their actions.

Fleet Admiral Rauss looked again at the telex in his hand. Well Well. Inform the Anhierarch fleet of our sub dispositions in their sector.

The Commodore of the naval battlegroup smiles grimly, looking at a pair of communication transcripts.

The first, from Fleet Admiral Rauss, pleases him considerably - always nice to have another person on your side... even if it was just an arrangement for the duration of the conflict.

Strange bedfellows, eh?

His attention turns to the next one, a transmission from the battlegroup Angel's commodore. A fellow by the name of Ratskillen. They'd been good friends at the naval academy, swabbed the same decks and manned the same ship while they were working their way up the promotion ladder.

There might even be time to reminisce with that old rascal. I remember that one time in Ferne... hah.

It reads, simply:

Heard about your situation near the African Commonwealth. Will be arriving within 48 hours as per orders from Fleet Commander. Noticed you started without me, Falvon. No brandy for you.

~Ratskillen

President Vladimir Lenin III has signed a bill ordering Haaregradian forces to remove all non-allied vessels from Lusakian waters.

This will be accomplished by force if neccissary.

OOC: So, who's in there with me? :wink:

Notes: We have 4 spy satelites over the area as well as having occassional overflights from RF-115 Advanced Arrow recon planes. We have a good amount of ground forces stationed in Lusaka as well as some substantial air power, most of which is tactical(only one squadron of medium bombers).

OOC: So, who's in there with me? :wink:



ooc: My two carriers with an assault ship and various escorts (some subs) are there.

There are two additional surface ships that have probably already rounded the "horn" and are heading north up the coast towards AC from that side. They ran into a Royceland plane but that didn't go anywhere. I'll start rping those ships once we get in gear again.

The Sunderland has let you go, since at the time we were trying to avoid hostilities...

At the moment, there are 3 Sunderland Flying Boats on anti-sub/shipping duties, and the IRAS Bird of Prey Carrier Airship with two squadrons of Fighter Bombers on board in the area, if anyone is interested...

"It seems it has come to it finally. Our forces are inadequate for the coming war. It is now, or out." Finishes SS reichsfuherer Helmut Von Stutgart. "You wish a communications sir?" asks Fieldmarschall Friedrich. "yes, immiediatley.".

To: African Commonwealth

Your nation is heavy with tension, and war looms. Das Uber Deutschlands commited forces are inadequate to fight the coming war. They number just slightly over 10,000 personel with 500 tanks and 350 fighting vehicles. These are specilay trained troops, trained for this kind of combat, however superior numbers would role them over. Our naval fleet can hold its own, and is not threatened by enemy forces for now. It has come to it, I, SS reichsfuherer of Das Uber-Deutschland , ask permission to land ground forces cabable of helping to defend your nation against an organised military lead by marxist nations. I can not allow communism to spread to your nation, it would be a great defeat for all nations combating communism. Again, communist forces will NOT be allowed victory, they will be defeated one way or another, with or without coperation from any nation involved.