NationStates Jolt Archive

Yeah. All you n00bs and newbies out there - don't try to revolt against bigger nations. You'll end up dead (or at least annexed). It is not a smart idea to start a revolution of n00bs. Larger nations still have better techs. Also, don't try one sided polls, either. Use better spelling and grammer and learn how to roleplay. Common sense.

In real life, if you owned a young nation, you wouldn't be going around to the US or Russia and saying "You are an opressor" and "I will attack you." You'd end up dead. Also, in real life, if you were typing documents to other nations, you'd make them official and correctly spelled. You are called a n00b not because you are a young nation, but because you don't use common sense.

They are all magic china puppets..... so there is no rash of noobs declaring war, its the same one.

Who would attack a stronger nation? Not us.

For instance, I am small yet have been RPing since about a week after my creation. Only one person has ever called me a noob - and since then I have learnt from my mistakes which he pointed out.

It's okay to slip up the first couple of times. Just learn from what you did wrong and you'll be okay. But when you keep screwing up and making no effort to correct it, that's when people call you a noob.

Also when I see really lousy spelling and lack of punctuation I am much more inclined to pull out the Ignore Cannon and blast away.

I say let 'em revolt. Us older nations have been without any really good targets for a while and could use fresh meat. :twisted:

Bring 'em on!

My sliver of common sense has probably kept me alive this long, not my natural charm.

What are you saying?? I rather enjoy crushing all those puny nations that presume to stand up against me :twisted:

But seriously, it does get tiring being innudated by all those n00bish teles declaring war......... j00 sux0rz!!11 i invade j00! ......give it a rest, jeez :roll:

and to all the n00bs-at-heart out there, no matter how long you've been on NS: try doing something besides going to war at the drop of a hat.

Yeah. All you n00bs and newbies out there - don't try to revolt against bigger nations. You'll end up dead (or at least annexed). It is not a smart idea to start a revolution of n00bs. Larger nations still have better techs. Also, don't try one sided polls, either. Use better spelling and grammer and learn how to roleplay. Common sense.

In real life, if you owned a young nation, you wouldn't be going around to the US or Russia and saying "You are an opressor" and "I will attack you." You'd end up dead. Also, in real life, if you were typing documents to other nations, you'd make them official and correctly spelled. You are called a n00b not because you are a young nation, but because you don't use common sense.

You're extremely smart for a nation your age. Don't bash the n00bs though, your still barely leaving thier ranks. Don't take that as an insult, just a warning. Getting flamed sucks. Of course, if you get your head bitten off, you have my support. I'm flexible RP-wise, so you know. I'll do space or future or modern-future or modern, whatever. I mostly do modern-future or space though.

Sketch, if ya ever need any assistance from a fellow billion + nation, just TG me. I have as it stands...7 nations over a billion.

I dont understand how annexing a country works. How does it work? Cant they refuse to give them your password.

Yeah. All you n00bs and newbies out there - don't try to revolt against bigger nations. You'll end up dead (or at least annexed). It is not a smart idea to start a revolution of n00bs. Larger nations still have better techs. Also, don't try one sided polls, either. Use better spelling and grammer and learn how to roleplay. Common sense.

In real life, if you owned a young nation, you wouldn't be going around to the US or Russia and saying "You are an opressor" and "I will attack you." You'd end up dead. Also, in real life, if you were typing documents to other nations, you'd make them official and correctly spelled. You are called a n00b not because you are a young nation, but because you don't use common sense.

You're extremely smart for a nation your age. Don't bash the n00bs though, your still barely leaving thier ranks. Don't take that as an insult, just a warning. Getting flamed sucks. Of course, if you get your head bitten off, you have my support. I'm flexible RP-wise, so you know. I'll do space or future or modern-future or modern, whatever. I mostly do modern-future or space though.

Nanakaland has been around a long time...

Tht's not how annexing works. Annexing means that they cannot make a difference to any rp's in here without the permission of the player who annexed them. (or at least i think that's how it works - don't quuote me on this, i'm probably wrong)

Sketch, if ya ever need any assistance from a fellow billion + nation, just TG me. I have as it stands...7 nations over a billion.

Thats not a good thing to admit you have tons and tons of puppets.

I'm a n00b here, but I don't think I'm inclined to act it, since I have some experience on other various forums, RPs, and such. It does get annoying, though, so I've compiled a n00bie do/don't list.

1. Don't post stupid topics.
2. Don't say stupid things.
3. Don't wage war on people; do you think France waged war on neigboring countries when it was first born? (Wait, never mind, that answers itself. :twisted: )
4. Do be courteous.
5. Do have fun.
6. Do act responsible.

-Steven

I'm a "peacenik" in RL and NS, don't worry about me declaring war. I'm more diplomatic than warlike.

I'm a n00b here

TWEEEEEET!

Wrong answer. There is a difference between a newbie (someone new to the game but trying to learn the rules) and a n00b (someone new to the game, ignorant, poorly educated, unwilling to learn the rules, and incapable of intelligent discourse or spelling).

See the difference? A newbie makes a mistake, takes his or her figurative lumps for the error, learns from his or her mistake, and moves on.

A n00b makes a mistake, gets dumped on by all and sundry, refuses to admit he's wrong, blames everyone else for the problem, cries and sulks and generally makes even more of an ass of himself until he decides to flamebait, spam, or both, then gets deleted.

You do not appear to fit in the latter category because:

A) You are capable of correct spelling

B) You seem to be capable of intelligent thought (deduced by the presence of actual cogent commentary)

and

C) You spelled several polysyllabic words correctly (a n00b wouldn't even be able to identify a polysyllabic word)

TEO

At last individuals who have the gift of talk. During these past days I have been clicking threads done by these noobs and trust me their hell to read. I've been posting, "this does not make any sense" posts left and right. Their filling up the forums and threads that look good are runned by these noobs. There are also threads regarding the war against Sketch and is being headed by a noob state. There I have at last steamed off the last of my week old anger and let's talk about this a very rational perspective.

PLEASE to all newbies read the rules before you go into action. Also just follow the advice of the posts above. It might do you some good.

Funny, I was talking about this earlier on the "Anti-Sketch and Big Country movement" thread:

N00bs of the world unite! You have nothing to lose... But an RP war.

Seriously though, if any of you small countries start warmongering to "get back" at the older nations, you will get your asses handed to you. Or at the very least will look stupid and inexperianced.

Die NOOB scum!

I had a nation here last spring, for several months. I abandoned it -- and it's presumably been long deleted -- because of the depressing lack of genuine effort by some posters. Thanks for posting some salient reminders of how to get ahead here.

I'm a n00b here

TWEEEEEET!

Wrong answer. There is a difference between a newbie (someone new to the game but trying to learn the rules) and a n00b (someone new to the game, ignorant, poorly educated, unwilling to learn the rules, and incapable of intelligent discourse or spelling).

Thanks for pointing that out, TEO. I should have checked to see how n00b was used here (several sites I use lump all newbies together, intellectual and not-so-intellectual alike, together until they earn their stripes).

At last individuals who have the gift of talk. During these past days I have been clicking threads done by these noobs and trust me their hell to read. I've been posting, "this does not make any sense" posts left and right. Their filling up the forums and threads that look good are runned by these noobs. There are also threads regarding the war against Sketch and is being headed by a noob state. There I have at last steamed off the last of my week old anger and let's talk about this a very rational perspective.

PLEASE to all newbies read the rules before you go into action. Also just follow the advice of the posts above. It might do you some good.
It's not a n00b attack, it's the Return of MagicChina! :shock:

I have been contemplating about the reasons behind n00bish behaviour, it probably stems from a desperate cry for attention or, the opposite, to be alone. Most likely at the age of thirteen do these, idiots to our point of view, kind of internet wanderers appear. They hunger the everlasting freedom of the internet, not caring for others who are in it. There's nothing we can do or should do about thier problems, they need to solve thier real life problems on thier own.

To Kaukolastan: I know it's not a noob attack. If they are then let me guess who will win? I know I don't support Sketch's actions, but if it comes to war against these noob coalition then I will support Sketch whatever side he/she may take. Are you saying that these states are because of only one person??? Sorry I have not been active as you can see in my total posts. Been concentrating on my region.

To Zvarinograd: A very deep meaning to your conclusion.

I have been contemplating about the reasons behind n00bish behaviour, it probably stems from a desperate cry for attention or, the opposite, to be alone. Most likely at the age of thirteen do these, idiots to our point of view, kind of internet wanderers appear. They hunger the everlasting freedom of the internet, not caring for others who are in it. There's nothing we can do or should do about thier problems, they need to solve thier real life problems on thier own.

Don't group them by age. Not all 13 year olds are insolent and just plain stupid. Otherwise, you have the phyce (sp?) of a n00b down.

several sites I use lump all newbies together, intellectual and not-so-intellectual alike, together until they earn their stripes.

Happens here, too. I've been guilty of it myself- assumed every newcomer was a n00b.

I frequently tell newcomers that they should spend several weeks doing nothing but reading posts by other nations. This will show the newcomer both the perils of n00bity and the benefits of well-written posts. It will also give the newcomer a good idea of which nations he or she would like to roleplay with. Even players using the same technology may not have the same roleplaying style. Read the threads that interest you, making note of which players have a style you can live with and which ones get ignored or verbally harassed.

Just spelling properly puts you several steps above the average newcomer, but poor spelling is not necessarily an automatic disqualification. Many of the players in the game are not native English speakers. Since I speak more than one language (an admitted rarity among Americans, I admit), I'm aware of the horrible illogical rules and exceptions inherent in the language. Many intelligent people have trouble learning English- especially learning it well enough to carry on detailed and specialized conversations which occur frequently here.

TEO

In China, specifically, I believe only scholars know English. Even then, they don't speak it as well as an average American can. I'm lucky I am from the Philippines, whose second national language is English.

"Anti-Sketch and Big Country movement" thread:shock: Anyone have a link?

"TIP: Always include another option that either expresses opposite views or says: 'Other'"

Jeh, I've been here for a short while but I get what you mean. Planeshift (a free mmorpg in development) gets n00bies everyday asking how to kill stuff, then saying 'TH15 G4M3 50X0RZ!!!!!!!11' when they find out they can't. Oh well, I've been asking some of the ppl I've bought stuff from about budgets and such... ...not bad for 14.

I'll support actions against any "N00b3h L34GU3 of D00|\/|!!11", not that I'd be much help... :P

I have a question. Why are newbies always depicted as typing in leet?

In real life, if you owned a young nation, you wouldn't be going around to the US or Russia and saying "You are an opressor" and "I will attack you." .


north korea doesnt think so, and i dont think nk is a n00b :wink:

Only "n00bs"s, not newbies.

In China, specifically, I believe only scholars know English. Even then, they don't speak it as well as an average American can. I'm lucky I am from the Philippines, whose second national language is English.

I lived in China from the ages of 9 to 14. Most people on the street know a bit of English. And the scholars, I would venture to say, often DO speak it better than the average American can! :P

I have a question. Why are newbies always depicted as typing in leet?Because I am a spamming n00b and I use 1337.
*Was just created on November 27th*
Okay, so it was November 27th a year ago...The real answer is probably that many people have trouble reading 1337 and group it with other annoying actions they label n00bishness.*

I have a question. Why are newbies always depicted as typing in leet?

I think it's because a lot of the "tWeEnIe" set is using leet, and they seem to think leet is extremely "r0x0rs". As well, a good portion of n00bs are Tweenies or Teens.

Edited to add:

IMHO, anyways.

I don't know, there hasn't been a study that I know off. So probably we could all just conjecture on why these individuals have such "leet" typing skills. Let me give you my inference on this:

1. Probably the lack of exposure to RP games and forums alike.
2. They didn't read or they did not bother understanding it.
3. Possibly a wrong mentor.
4. Probably some of them are mentally retarded or something.

I have a question. Why are newbies always depicted as typing in leet?Because I am a spamming n00b and I use 1337.
*Was just created on November 27th*
Okay, so it was November 27th a year ago...The real answer is probably that many people have trouble reading 1337 and group it with other annoying actions they label n00bishness.*

You forgot to close the size tag.

MagicChina was a spammer/godmodder/n00b of epic proportions until DEAT. And He has Returned in the incarnation of many n00bish states.

Re: 1337
A lot of n00bs can't type very well (ie: i kil teh wurld), use 1337 (ie: i ki1 73h \/\/urld), and make grand claims in 1337speak (ie: /\/\3 ub3r n00>< 347 j00r l453r5!1111OMG WTF!!!1111). If you look, most idiot threads/posts contain 1337 or at least a huge degree of bad spelling... usually paired together.

5. They were first exposed to it in a humorous medium.
You forgot to close the size tag.I got it in before you could click quote, though!
Re: 1337
A lot of n00bs can't type very well (ie: i kil teh wurld), use 1337 (ie: i ki1 73h \/\/urld), and make grand claims in 1337speak (ie: /\/\3 ub3r n00>< 347 j00r l453r5!1111OMG WTF!!!1111).I think most true 1337 on NS is being used as a joke.

I don't know, there hasn't been a study that I know off. So probably we could all just conjecture on why these individuals have such "leet" typing skills. Let me give you my inference on this:

1. Probably the lack of exposure to RP games and forums alike.
2. They didn't read or they did not bother understanding it.
3. Possibly a wrong mentor.
4. Probably some of them are mentally retarded or something.

Actually, it's quite handy to be able to type quickly in leet. My misguided friend Daniel, who happens to be a hacker (or 'h4xoR) can type as quickly in leet as in English or French, and if you don't want to be electronically 'over-heard', then leet is a simple easy code to use.

Re: 1337
A lot of n00bs can't type very well (ie: i kil teh wurld), use 1337 (ie: i ki1 73h \/\/urld), and make grand claims in 1337speak (ie: /\/\3 ub3r n00>< 347 j00r l453r5!1111OMG WTF!!!1111).I think most true 1337 on NS is being used as a joke.
Agreed. Most 1337 speak is used by vets to mock n00bs who mispell everything while being morons. As the worst of these are the preteens who love to claim to be 1337 h4><0rz, 1337 tends to be equated with the n00bness.

PS: I, too, once fell into that pathetic stage, but back then, 1337 was quite a bit different (I still use 2 for z, and it was 31337, not just 1337. Ahh... the good old days of idiocy. :wink: )

PPS: ir1337 h4><0r!!111 i 5734l j00r /\/\3g4h3r72!1111

I'd guess that a lot of the n00bs on NS have come from Counter Strike or something similar. No offense CS players, but it seems to be the spawning pool for 1337 sp34king n00bs that seem to think they can beat anyone or anything that crosses their path.

To Kauklostan: Ah, thanks for telling who this China guy is. Anyway, so this like a kinda figurative way to tell us that MagicChina is back. Let me see, I think I had an experience on who Magic China is. Was he the state proposing to nuke the state he sees and let me see also the one responsible for dumb threads.

To Nianacio: Well it's a joke that's getting on my nerves.

To: Daamfeck: thanks for the info, but some people to know what they are reading and not shift from one typing skill to another. It's crazy for the eyes.

I'd guess that a lot of the n00bs on NS have come from Counter Strike or something similar. No offense CS players, but it seems to be the spawning pool for 1337 sp34king n00bs that seem to think they can beat anyone or anything that crosses their path.
Counter Strike? You mean Counter Hack?

"Anti-Sketch and Big Country movement" thread:shock: Anyone have a link?

I do as a matter of fact. Go to http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2299115&highlight=#2299115.

Yay, thank you! ^_^
Although I guess you guys wouldn't want me to bring it back up to the top of the forums...

Yay, thank you! ^_^
Although I guess you guys wouldn't want me to bring it back up to the top of the forums...

Actually I think that would be a good idea.

:cry: But ... not all newbies are bad ... I'm good, right? I spell well and I use my vocabulary. I've even begun a medieval fantasy RP thread in which I have three UN members and two UN delegates.

:( I'm a good newbie, right? There are exceptions, right? :(

:cry: But ... not all newbies are bad ... I'm good, right? I spell well and I use my vocabulary. I've even begun a medieval fantasy RP thread in which I have three UN members and two UN delegates.

:( I'm a good newbie, right? There are exceptions, right? :(

Newbie's are good (everyone is one at one point). N00bs are bad.

:cry: But ... not all newbies are bad ... I'm good, right? I spell well and I use my vocabulary. I've even begun a medieval fantasy RP thread in which I have three UN members and two UN delegates.

:( I'm a good newbie, right? There are exceptions, right? :(

Newbie's are good (everyone is one at one point). N00bs are bad.

Oh ... I must have misunderstood. Thank you. :D

In real life, if you owned a young nation, you wouldn't be going around to the US or Russia and saying "You are an opressor" and "I will attack you." .

What if they are trying to be an Islamic extremist group?

sorry, just my 2 cents

And to think I wasted my first few posts on real RP stuff back in January!

(Although the only thing I did for awhile was promise a rowboat to Iesus Christi when he was exporting people.)

*Best nature show voice*

There is a boy who lives a tortured life, suffering at the hands of others. His nights are spent with little sleep, as he is haunted by constant nightmares. He is small and weak, he has no friends or people who truly love him. Each day he must deal with the school bullies and indifferent teachers, his physically and verbally abusive family members, and all the strangers that couldn’t care less if he existed or not. The only thing that makes him truly happy is his hobby, the only thing he lives for: Annoying good RPers with his bullshit posts of "I WIL INVAED TEH ENTIER WORLD WIT 21345251235125163636326 NUK3S U DEI"

If YOU want to spell like a clueless noob, use this, it works every time
http://ssshotaru.homestead.com/files/aolertranslator.html

(Also, stop dissing on 13 year olds, I'm only 14 :tantrum: :tantrum: :tantrum: :tantrum: )

(I find it funny that someone referred to Nanakaland as a n00b back on page 1. Have they noticed the stickies started by him?)

"Anti-Sketch and Big Country movement" thread:shock: Anyone have a link?

I do as a matter of fact. Go to http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2299115&highlight=#2299115.

Wow, I seem to be quite popular....... :?

You're extremely smart for a nation your age. Don't bash the n00bs though, your still barely leaving thier ranks. Don't take that as an insult, just a warning. Getting flamed sucks. Of course, if you get your head bitten off, you have my support. I'm flexible RP-wise, so you know. I'll do space or future or modern-future or modern, whatever. I mostly do modern-future or space though.

I am a resurected nation. I was originally founed March 16, went out of existance, and then a mod brought me back. That's why I have a population of 900 million, but a founding date in November.

OOC: You should also not post it in the International Incidents forum where IC is enforced.

That being said, I'm tired of people who have been playing longer than me going "NOOB" every time someone slips up. I am better roleplayer than half the stuck-up wankers that started playing back in the day and think they can dictate wether someone's a bad roleplayer or not. So there.

I have been contemplating about the reasons behind n00bish behaviour, it probably stems from a desperate cry for attention or, the opposite, to be alone. Most likely at the age of thirteen do these, idiots to our point of view, kind of internet wanderers appear. They hunger the everlasting freedom of the internet, not caring for others who are in it. There's nothing we can do or should do about thier problems, they need to solve thier real life problems on thier own.

Don't group them by age. Not all 13 year olds are insolent and just plain stupid. Otherwise, you have the phyce (sp?) of a n00b down.
Amen. I am actually 13 and I do not go around saying "1 R 1337 @nD B3@7 Y0uR @rMy" (This is a dramainization)(sp?) But I am more mature than most of my 7th grade class.

I have been contemplating about the reasons behind n00bish behaviour, it probably stems from a desperate cry for attention or, the opposite, to be alone. Most likely at the age of thirteen do these, idiots to our point of view, kind of internet wanderers appear. They hunger the everlasting freedom of the internet, not caring for others who are in it. There's nothing we can do or should do about thier problems, they need to solve thier real life problems on thier own.

Thats quite insulting... i'm thirteen, but i don't go around speeking in 'l33t' and pissing everyone off. The people that piss me off the most are the ones that use 'u' instead of 'you' and so on. Also someone had a go at me because i have 130+ allys and they said i could never have that at my age, although considering i doubt they had any ally's and where just pised off that I could talk properly and didn't chuck 'nooks' around like childs toy's.

EDIT: Spelling mistake fixed.