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UE announces new space ventures (pics)

United Elias
05-12-2003, 00:55
This morning at 11:44 local time, the first ever manned space flight by the Elias Air Force came to a succesful end with the safe landing of the Buran class space shuttle Unity. The mission dubbed ORBEX II was the second succesful flight of the shuttle but was the first one to be manned and seven astronauts whose names cannot be released for security reasons completed several important tasks including launching two satellites, the first a weather reconaissance satelite known as 'Houndog I' and a Patruan navigation and communications satellite.

Currently Unity is the only orbiter that is fit for flight and although a second type was to be procured this program has been cancelled in favour of more advanced systems and a whole range of programs have been suggested. A Presidential spokesman said today that, 'This is a great step in our nation's challenge of the final frontier' and when answering a question about whether Elias will continue to make such large leaps in space capability he replied, 'You ain't seen nothing yet.'

http://www.iespana.es/intercosmos/astronautica/buran.jpg
Unity landing at eboneeza air force base.

Future Projects

The following large scale projects are currently on the drawing board and each one will be assessed before full scale development.

Project 112 Advanced Resusable Orbiter

More economically viable and safer orbiter for a variety of tassk, aims to reduce paytload costs to $2000 per pound.

http://www.fas.org/spp/guide/usa/launch/x33-1_300.jpg

http://www.fas.org/spp/guide/usa/launch/x33-5_300.jpg

Project 124.1 Orbital Space Station

A permamnet space station to house variety of sensors as well as conduct experimets and act as hub for future space operations.

http://spaceboy.nasda.go.jp/lib/station/station/g/ss_106.jpg

Project 117 Lunar Exploratory Program

Moon program to develop better knowledge of the moon and it geological mae up witha view of eventually buidling mines on themoon if viable. To use using mobile habitation facilities.

http://www.lpi.usra.edu/expmoon/future/LunarBaseFS.gif
05-12-2003, 00:57
perhaps we can develop the reusable space vehicle together ? my SWP you know.. :P
United Elias
05-12-2003, 01:09
perhaps we can develop the reusable space vehicle together ? my SWP you know.. :P

yes, that would be excellent, I have also invited Credonia to be a partner in all my programs if he pleases because he seems to be rather knowledgeable on space so I hope your okay with that. Anyway it wont be a very rapid devlopment process since Im trying to be as realsitic as possible.

If your fine with all this then great.
Btw no more partners.
United Elias
05-12-2003, 01:10
perhaps we can develop the reusable space vehicle together ? my SWP you know.. :P

yes, that would be excellent, I have also invited Credonia to be a partner in all my programs if he pleases because he seems to be rather knowledgeable on space so I hope your okay with that. Anyway it wont be a very rapid devlopment process since Im trying to be as realsitic as possible.

If your fine with all this then great.
Btw no more partners.
Kurai Nami
05-12-2003, 01:19
Welcome to the great Beyond, hopeyou will like it..
Credonia
05-12-2003, 01:43
Credonia
05-12-2003, 01:44
Very nice, i think these are very implimentable. Its going to take decades to eventually get a lunar base on the moon but tats ok, just a small price to pay. As for the X34 Venturestar (although that looks like its bigger predecessor the X-38) that would be perfect for earth orbit missions. In order to get to the moon and beyond, your missing one critical element, and that is a spacecraft that is reuseable and can handle repeated trips to the moon like its nothing. Credonia has one that can actually reach mars with the right planning (its actually a vehicle my virtual space organization is developing that we will use for lunar and martian missions) its called convoy. Heres a picture of it: http://www.vussp.org/images/convoy.gif

How do you like her?
Autonomous City-states
05-12-2003, 06:00
OOC: As an aerospace engineer, I can tell you right now that design configuration is really no good for interplanetary flight.
Credonia
05-12-2003, 09:34
OOC: I can assure you that it is. The organization that works with my organization also works with nasa and people from the University of Michigan. They designed this spacecraft design which, if created, would work. They designed it in a CAD program and did computer simulated tests with it to prove that it will fly. In addition, the company that created the design that the VUSSP is partners with creates aircraft designs. They currently have some some designs that Boeing took interest in. Trust me, it will fly, otherwise the VUSSP wouldnt have adopted it as its main vehicle for spaceflight.
Kaukolastan
05-12-2003, 09:57
OOC: I can assure you that it is. The organization that works with my organization also works with nasa and people from the University of Michigan. They designed this spacecraft design which, if created, would work. They designed it in a CAD program and did computer simulated tests with it to prove that it will fly. In addition, the company that created the design that the VUSSP is partners with creates aircraft designs. They currently have some some designs that Boeing took interest in. Trust me, it will fly, otherwise the VUSSP wouldnt have adopted it as its main vehicle for spaceflight.
OOC: He's questioning the interplanetary flight, not the ability to fly.
Credonia
05-12-2003, 10:04
OOC: same thing
Credonia
05-12-2003, 10:05
OOC: besides, the thing can last in space, it uses a combination of nuclear and conventional (chemical) propulsion.
United Elias
05-12-2003, 18:00
Can Venturestar not reach lunar orbit?
Five Civilized Nations
05-12-2003, 18:07
It will run out of fuel...

For this kind of mission, the Five Civilized Nations will donate one of its surplus long-range transports...

http://www.traipse.com/more_ships/ship2.jpg
Autonomous City-states
05-12-2003, 18:22
OOC: Credonia, I worked for NASA's Advanced Space Propulsion Lab... and nothing that small is going to fly to Mars on its own. You don't have enough room for either fuel or life support that would have to be carried along. It may be suitable as a shuttle replacement, but I fail to see how it would be sustainable over such long durations as a mission to Mars.
United Elias
05-12-2003, 20:35
OOC: Credonia, I worked for NASA's Advanced Space Propulsion Lab... and nothing that small is going to fly to Mars on its own. You don't have enough room for either fuel or life support that would have to be carried along. It may be suitable as a shuttle replacement, but I fail to see how it would be sustainable over such long durations as a mission to Mars.

why cant Venturestar reach lunar orbit, Saturn V can?
Credonia
05-12-2003, 21:41
I'll get the specs of the Convoy to you soon, its massive ;-)
Autonomous City-states
05-12-2003, 23:25
OOC: Credonia, I worked for NASA's Advanced Space Propulsion Lab... and nothing that small is going to fly to Mars on its own. You don't have enough room for either fuel or life support that would have to be carried along. It may be suitable as a shuttle replacement, but I fail to see how it would be sustainable over such long durations as a mission to Mars.

why cant Venturestar reach lunar orbit, Saturn V can?

VentureStar is only designed to carry enough fuel and payload to reach Earth orbit. It is not an interplanetary craft. Saturn V was much larger and carried much more fuel.
Credonia
06-12-2003, 12:03
and adding on to that, at the end oe each lunar mission, the crew had less than 25% of their fuel, meaning their missions had to be VERY accurate, so yea, the Satuen V can only do earth orbit and lunar missions with a large yet limited payload capacity
Zvarinograd
06-12-2003, 12:16
The United Socialist States of Zvarinograd would like to offer it's technicians' experience in composites and armor systems as well as prexisting vanadium base alloys for use on heat shields against high temperatures at re-entry as well as propulsion chamber materials (Of course, to protect the end of the rocket from burning out) for your future projects in space. This is to signify that our nation is, as well, interested in the promotion of space programs.

Dr. Sergei Valkov
Head Researcher of Valkonezh Research Complex
United Socialist States of Zvarinograd
Catholic Europe
06-12-2003, 14:07
Catholic Europe
06-12-2003, 14:07
Congratulations President Elias on a successful mission. I hope that you space program will continue to grow and develop.

Pope Pius XIII
United Elias
06-12-2003, 17:32
The United Socialist States of Zvarinograd would like to offer it's technicians' experience in composites and armor systems as well as prexisting vanadium base alloys for use on heat shields against high temperatures at re-entry as well as propulsion chamber materials (Of course, to protect the end of the rocket from burning out) for your future projects in space. This is to signify that our nation is, as well, interested in the promotion of space programs.

Dr. Sergei Valkov
Head Researcher of Valkonezh Research Complex
United Socialist States of Zvarinograd

We are throrughly interested in your proposal and we will willingly make Zvaronograd a junior partner in this rpogram to provide the materials listed above.

Sincerely,
General Bergstein,
Commander in Chief Space Division,
Elias Air Force
Patrua
13-12-2003, 10:45
The recent successful conclusion of the ORBEX II mission and thus flawless launch of the NAVICOM I satellite have heralded Patrua's space age. It would be debasing and disrespectful, however, to ignore the decades of meticulous research and zealous effort that preceded this joyful event. Countless funds and dedicated researchers have been continuously working on several space-related projects of which the NAVICOM satellite series is the first to reach (at least partially) completion.

http://heasarc.gsfc.nasa.gov/Images/misc_missions/solrad10_small.gif

NAVICOM I (navigation and communication), Patrua's first satellite is the crowning achievement of a decade of preparatory research and development

For a considerable time now, the Empire of Patrua has been involved in a joint space program with Elias. As shown, Patrua's participation is often overshadowed by the triumphant releases of Elias' own merits. The share of the Empire nevertheless shouldn't be underestimated. Albeit conspicuously unmentioned in the announcement of future projects, the Empire is already involved in the development of a scientific module to the orbital space facility.

Well over a decade now, the Centre for Strategic Scientific Development has been designing an orbital scientific base originally meant to be an autonomously operating orbiting space facility. Now the SpaceLab is being overhauled and converted into a module that will be integrated into a potential orbital stationary base.

Specs of the SpaceLab module are classified but might become available (be it restricted) later on.

http://www.geocities.com/i_s_s_alpha/PICS/Columbus1.jpg

Artist's impression of the SpaceLab module

http://www.esa.int/export/images/iss197,1.jpg

Artist's impression of the SpaceLab module integrated into a spacestation

http://www.gsoc.dlr.de/kehrbild02.jpg

Picture of the SpaceLab module simulator


Centre for Strategic Scientific Development
Imperial Armed Forces of Patrua
Credonia
13-12-2003, 14:10
umm, not to be rude but what does this have to do with UE's space agency or is this just a post to TRY to show off?
United Elias
13-12-2003, 19:12
umm, not to be rude but what does this have to do with UE's space agency or is this just a post to TRY to show off?

Becaus Pstrua has worked closely with our space program as detailed in teh post.
Patrua
14-12-2003, 05:17
umm, not to be rude but what does this have to do with UE's space agency or is this just a post to TRY to show off?

Have you even read the post?? The Empire of Patrua is in a joint space program with Elias. The launch of the NAVICOM I satellite is even mentioned in the post that started this thread. If we'd be showing off, surely we'd have come up with something better.