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At the Royal Palace in Königsberg, in the Kingdom of Sigmarinen, today it was announced before the hundreds of thousands of soldiers and civilians outside cheering their King.

Declaration of War upon The United States of Komarninski

The Royal Cabinnet and Regime hereby issues a declaration of war upon the evil United States of Komarinski.

The King declared that he "Will not accept a state where criminality reign supreme and where terrorists invade his own Kingdom, and are not punishes cause of in their homeland there are no prisons and many other things. This evil Utopia thought must be crushed instantly and never allowed to rise again".

Furthermore the Royal Cabinnet declares that peace will be signed with the United States of Komarinski once the demands of the Kingdom of Sigmarinen have been agreed. The demands are as following:

1. The rich islands in the west are to be handed over to the Kingdom of Sigmarinen, whom have legitimate claims from 1922 when the former king owned theese islands as his own private property, but was taken by vicious socialists.

2. The oilrigs at the sea are to be handed over to the Kingdom of Sigmarinen.

3. The United States of Komarinski must tighten their law system and convict the men that the Kingdom of Sigmarinen presents on their list to death.

4. The United States of Komarinski shall be subordinated to the Kingdom of Sigmarinen when it comes to Justice and Law.

Failure to comply will change the articles.
May God Guide us to victory
Signed
Frederick, King of Sigmarinen
And the Royal Cabinett



Shortly before the declaration of war had been declared, the Sigmarinen Royal Navy had been outside the mainisland, and the bombardement of the Big battleships commenced, airforces bombed strategic sites in and around Firdona, while Hundreds of thousands of men, simultaneously invaded the surrounding Islands.

Papers where dropped all over the State saying
" Tired of the Corruption of the state ? Tired of having your sons, your mother, your wifes murder set free because there are no prisons ?
Tired of having murderes walk around the streets, threating your life ! Rise up against the Regime and join the Kingdom of Sigmarinen for justice and truth."

Various spies also supported many of the radical groups inside the State, the radical groups where strong as they was never sent to prison, and some supported the Kingdom of Sigmarinen.

First invasion wave
A large army, of 120.000 men, fully equiped by money granted by the state and foreign support from various states abroad, in perticular the The Anarchist Land of Isla de Penguinata, invaded the Mainland Anc captured Tarin. Several Para-Military groups also serves the army, especially the "Kings Guards", and some fractions from the Kingdom of Gothiar, around 10.000 men has also been granted to the Kingdom of Sigmarinen.

30.000 men invaded the main island, and is fighting outside Firdona.

The airforce and navy fights for the supremacy of the sea and air at the moment.

There where heavy losses when invading the Island and the mainland, but after gaining a foothold there was really not much of a fight.

The Kingdom of Sigmarinen is overjoyed about the intial successes, being a state with conscription and a population of over 24.000.000 men gives an strong advantage

You shouldn't even be able to field that many troops, let alone transport them across to the enemy

If i want your advice i ask for it. Conscription means that every man at a certain age is in the army. And if Sweden before ww1 had a population of around 7 million and an army of 500.000 when fully amassed, i do beleive a state with 28 million can get 1.5 million troopers.

(( The Accepted NS RP thing for nations to be able to field is 5%, and this is a defensive army, not offensive, as you are doing, so yours should be more like 3-4%, since your small, it goes down the larger you get, but I'll just use your figures for right now ))

Let's work out some things. First, over half of your army should be on home soil, no Army in it's right mind send all it's forces to an attack, at least half should be on your own soil.

Ok, now, your working with around 700,000 soldiers, ok good, now here comes the fun parts.

Not all of this should be your Army, if you want balance about 55%-60% should be Army (There are exceptions, there are some Naval nations, Aerial Nations, Army nations, whatever, but they all still have a percentage of their military cut up). Without a Navy, how did your troops get there? What protected them? Without an Air Force, what stops the enemy from pounding you to hell?

Ok, so assuming 60%, you now have 420,000 Army troops going on this mission, great, but wait, they need food, fuel (for vehicles), rations, equipment, medics could be counted here, oy vey, this will take up around 60% realistically, though you can get away with 45% here on NS. So now the troops you can effectively send into actual combat is *drum roll* 231,000. Significantly less then 1,500,000

EDITS: Since your relatively new, most of this will be infantry, about around 120,000 of it if you really spent a ton of money of Artillery, AA, Armor, Helicopters, etc. Also it took a lot less to field an Army before WWI, but still, most of this applies. I cannot speak for Sweden, as I'm not familar with this, and if you could provide a source it would help.

ooc: (sorry, don't mean to clog up your thread.. hope you don't mind) I believe he's right about Sweden, but then that was in a dangerous time, with dangerous neighbours. Plus, the fact that they did not keep it up speaks for itself, I think.
While I believe he could conscript this many people, it would be a strain that I personally feel ought to be RPd in some way, and as you say, transporting a large force means that really, an awful lot of the conscripted men are going to be sailors and such, rather than soldiers. He could have a perfectly large armoured force though- that he is apparently new to nation states does not mean that his nation is brand new. North Korea is slightly less populated than is Sigmarinen, and has a 700,000 to one million man army (last I heard), with perhaps 2,500 APCs, between 7,000 and 18,000 heavy artillery pieces (damn conflicting sources), maybe 2,000 tanks.. and so on.
But.. of course that's a tad bit of a drain on the ol' economy, and requires a twenty or thirty percent (of GDP) military spend each year..

I'm done.. carry on.

Yes, I'll concede he could conscript 1.5 million troops, since he is a smaller country, the rules are slightly more flexible. However all of my figures were going off of that 1.5 million number. And let's remember that these are conscripts, not exactly the best troops to use for an offensive. They work a lot better on the defense, as they know the terrain, but still, regulars are better armed, and better trained. If he was using an all regular, professional army, It should only be say, 200,000-300,000 and that is before splitting it into Army, Air Force, Navy, and it's not subtracting the needs of logistics.

The Austican Government shall send one Carrier Battle Group to the region to monitor the situation. Such a battle group will attack neither side, however will keep close watch

His Imperial majesty, Empeor Blort of Prussia will dispatch a diplomatic envoy forthwith, to moniter the situation as it progresses.

The Austican Government shall send one Carrier Battle Group to the region to monitor the situation. Such a battle group will attack neither side, however will keep close watch

And you cannot have a carrier at your age.

Again, age is really the wrong term.. but with the nation's size and economy a carrier battle group would pretty much constitute the entire armed forces of the nation, and would probably be in a pretty poor state of repair. Deploying it on a whim would likely be hugely unpopular amongst economists and voters (if there are such things as voters)

The Austican Government shall send one Carrier Battle Group to the region to monitor the situation. Such a battle group will attack neither side, however will keep close watch

And you cannot have a carrier at your age.

"Cannot" is such an inappropriate word, more like should not since that would mean your soldiers are most likely fighting with kitchenware.

I doubt he is using something like a Nimitz for this, considering his size and economy. It is more likely he is deploying something like Britains Invincible class, except even smaller, perhaps a limit of 8-10 Aircraft, mostly rotary aircraft, or perhaps all making it a Helicopter Carrier. Still, this would mean his Army and Air Force are non-existant, and this is about his entire Navy he is deploying to keep this in supply.

1. I can have modern and good stuff, i had roleplay with Isla de Penguinata (whom at that time atleast was a economical superpower) whom pumped cash into my land, billions. SO i can have modern stuff.

2. I have changed now.

3. Blitzkrieg, we where ready everything was done, the moment the DOW word was declared in Königsberg the first troops was paradroped on the island.

IC:
To Emperor Blort of Prussia

Emperor Blort of Prussia, We sort of hope that our good Vaterland where my relatives ruled not long ago, perhaps you are a descendent of the proud Hohenzollern as well ? I am of the branch Hohenzollern-Sigmarinen.


TO Austica

Observations are welcomed, we figh tthis war in accordance to the Geneva convention and will do it fair.

OOC: Mik, just so you know, your troops shouldn't have entered the island just yet. You need to wait for Komarninski to see what defences he has and what troops your men encountered.... so technically, your troops are still on the beaches right now or waiting on boats.

OOC2: www.geocities.com/manred2004/ - maps & stuff


IC:
The Prime minister of FPC declared that this violation of sovereignity would not be left unchallenged. He later issued a vote to the senate on wheter or not they should enter in a war against Sigmarinen. The entire 36 senators voted on war to protect the self interest of Komarninski. Begining in 3 days, FPC will send over 10,000 men to help Konmarninski.

OOC: yep, you also cannot say that there are radical groups in another one's country. That's godmodding.

IC:

Following the declaration of war, the commonwealth of Listovia received notice that FPC had declared war on Sigmarinen. Since Listovia is a commonwealth, they immidiately entered the war. Listovia's prime minister declared that they would send 15,000 soldiers and 100 tanks to help Komarninski.

Following with the Treaty of Brelinburg, Kaiser Michael Kuklinski V has announces his plans to support FPC in this war, and is sending the following to assist:

1st Carrier Group
1st Battle Group

5 Heerschar (4500 Infantry each)

3 Zusammenheerschar (4200 Infantry, 300 Armour each)

2 Panzerheerschar (600 Armour each)

2 Mechanischheerschar (2000 Infantry, 400 Vehicles/Light Armour each)

and 1 Marineheerschar, with 2000 Marines.

OOC: Then i think this is absolutely bullcrap. Their realm is a open society with no prisons, and high crimerate. TO say that no fractions within should support is just pure bullshit. There are men whom support Matriarchat for heavens sakes.

Secondly, if i cannot have a prepared blitzkrieg war as seen in many modern conflicts where the army just "Happend to visit by" and then stroke i fail to see any reason to roleplay at all.

The Austican fleet is rather humble and small. The battle group we are sending to your region could probably be better described as a Surface Action Group.
The Combattants in the Group are:

*HAMS KING ROBERT I - MODIFIED CLEMENCEAU CLASS LIGHT AIRCRAFT CARRIER*
Complement: 670-800 officers and sailors
Aircraft:
-9x T-45 Hawke Light Fighters
-1x S-2G Tracker
-2x Mk50 SeaKing Helicopters
Weapons:
SAM - Aster15 Anti Missile System
GUNS- 12.7mm M2 MG's
CIWS- Phalanx

*HAMS INTREPID; HAMS KILO; HAMS GRAY. MODIFIED DE LA PENNE GUIDED MISSILE DESTROYERS*
Complement: 160
Aircraft:
1 - EH101 Merlin
Weapons:
SSM - AGM84 Harpoon (block II)
SAM - SM-2 ER SAM
GUNS - 1 5" Naval Gun
Torpedoes - Tubes for Mk37 Mod14 torpedoes

*HAMS CROWN PRINCE AOR233 *
Supply ship

As you can see, our force size is quite small, however it remains effective. Most Austican ships have been modified from their orginal armament to suit the weaponry which Austica want's.

Further details of these ships are classified, although detailed descriptions can be provided by telegram request, addressed to:

Vice Admiral Sir Henry Moore
Chief of Naval Staff
His Majesty's Royal Navy of Austica

and sent to Austica's telegram inbox

The Government of the Kingdom of Austica, has today ordered all forces in this region to withdraw and return to Austica, or their previous stations. This decision was made after the Chief of Military Staff advised the cabinet that Austican forces were no longer required in the region.

Press Office | Ministry of Defence | His Majesty's Austican Government.