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Das Uber-Deutschland is proud to announce that we have completed our first major ground based military project, a main battle tank. The idea behind the massive expenditure of engineering capital behind this was to have an itegrated, top of the line tank that could out-pace, out-battle, and out-last any other tank design. My country recently made two hundered billion on a technology contract with another nation (a none military contract). This has jumpstarted production of the main battle tank.

Specs:
weight-75 tons
length-390 inches
width-145 inches
ground clearance-22 inches
obastacle crossing-51 inches
fuel capacity-500 gallons of diesel fuel
tactical range-370 miles
propolsion-V8 twin turbo diesel powering a 1566 KW (2100 hp) generator through gear reduction. 2 AC traction motors powering each track with hydraulic anti-vibration dampening.
Max speed-55 mph
armor-depleted uranium armor (7 tons more than M1 abrams). Active defensive armor available.
Armament-130mm smooth bore main cannon firing a bepleted uranium or tungsten projectile shrouded in a sabot.
1 anti-personal 5.56 NATO minigun mounted on turet.
1 anti-motorized thermal targeted missle system.
cost: around 6 million per unit
I dont want to clog up the board anymore, however if you need good reasons as to why this tank is superior to others, just telegram me, and ill give you facts. these are merely combat specs, they do not speak of the superior logistics this tank posseses. A simple comparison is between the abrams; notice an abrams weighs about 65 tons and goes 45 mph max. This tank weighs 75 tons yet can thunder around at 55mph. This is because the unit produces 2100 horsepower at the generator wheres an abrams generates 1500 before going through the thermaly innefiecient hydrokinetic (no, thats not a bs word) transmission.

Logistics:
First off, this tanks propulsion is better than the abrams because it uses no transmission. An inherent problom with transmissions (especialy heavy equipment tranies) is that they generate a lot of heat. This on top of massive torque make them not as reliable as could be desirable, as in high maitanence cost etc. The deisel electric propulsion of our tank completely eliminates the need of a transmission. All it needs is a simple clutch to allow it to idle. Also, the power to weight ratio of electric motors verses any kind of internal combustion engine is far greater. Every pound saved in the power to weight ratio equation equalls more allowance for armor. These electtric motors that run the tracks are very low maitanence and produce little heat. Since the diesel engine runs a generator, you basicaly have a moving generator as well, allowing possible future artilery pieces that can recieve power from armored devisions. In the area of armor, these tanks use depleted uranium. Depleted uranium is many times more dense than armor grade steel. With a more powerful propolsion system, this allows this tank to have more armor and still retain a top in class high speed. This armor thickness allows this tank to repel nearly all types of ammuniton a better percentage of time than any tank fielded today. In the area of armament, the main cannon, a smooth bore 130mm cannon, uses the same size projectile as a 120mm cannon, only it has a larger sabot that allows it to soak up more vibration and therfor be more accurate. The cannon is stabalised by a hydraulic dampening system that also keeps accuracy very good. Targeting for the main gun can be thermal, infrared, and night vision. The anti-mechanized missle system is designed to stop very fast incoming threats such as helicopters, and light mechanized vehicles. This system is thermaly targeted and after fired, fully automated. The anti-personal turet mounted mini-gun is fairly self explanetory, it fires a huge amount of lead in a small amount of time.

Price:
$6 million per unit

How much for production rights? Sales rights?

Das Uber-Deutschland is not selling production rights to this tank right yet, however, we are giving a %7 discount for purchases over 400 units as a wholesale deal.

Das Uber-Deutschland is not selling production rights to this tank right yet, however, we are giving a %7 discount for purchases over 400 units as a wholesale deal.

Taiwan-Lite are already in production with a slightly inferiour, but far cheaper version. We've got 600 on back order AND we get free mini-vans with every ten.

aye, however some like the best. Inferior tanks do not pay when they fail. It would seem some peoples tanks are cheaper than they should be. We must remember a rule that many have forgotten; you get what you pay for. My tank is a superior design. Das Uber-Deutschland fields 5,000 of these tanks know and they have proven amazingly reliable and efficient.

bump.

We here at Mikosolf would like to purchas five hundreed tanks. The price is 3,000,000,000 whole sale, but with the 7% off it equals 2,100,000,000 USD.

Money to be wired upon confermation.

-Reif Dnelufwa, Chairman of Mikosolf

Order confirmed with %7 discount. Your buisness is appreciated greatly. You will not be disappointed.

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I'll take 2,000 of your tanks.
that would be 11,859,000,000
*money wired*
They're really cool Uber-Deutschland! I can't wait to see more of your genius. I also can't wait to see these perform.

I'll take 2,000 of your tanks.
that would be 11,859,000,000
*money wired*
They're really cool Uber-Deutschland! I can't wait to see more of your genius. I also can't wait to see these perform.

OOC: One problem

The King Tiger, or Tiger 2, was the Panzer VIII, and the Maus was the IX. Therefore, this would be the Maus 2, or King Maus. Not the Tiger 3/King 2.

I would like to order 500 of these tanks.
I am wiring the 2,790,000,000 (factoring in the promised 7% discount).

Constansius Bellum
Chief Requisition Officer of Dominter

I'll take 100-it's 600,000,000 USD

both oreders confirmed. Thanks for the praise, they will be everything you expect! The order of 2000 should arrive in total about five days. The five hundered should arrive in about two. Thank you very much for the buisness.

We are very interested in this wonderful tank :D
do you have a picture of it, for further examination?

order confirmed. Your buisness is appreciated.

(ooc. I didnt use "maus" because, really, I dont like that designation. I thought I would revert to the "tiger" and "PzKw" designations.)

order confirmed. Your buisness is appreciated.

(ooc. I didnt use "maus" because, really, I dont like that designation. I thought I would revert to the "tiger" and "PzKw" designations.)

(occ. sorry falcon, I dont have a good host site, and im no artist, so no pics, however, if your any good at sketching/find a good picture you think represents this tank, feel free to post it. Just try to keep it present tech looking)

**money wired**
Thanks Das Uber-Deutschland G'night

OOC: what tank did you base the design off of, for the pic?

OOC: Kudos on developing your own technology, instead of leeching off of or duplicating what RL countries develop. Also the price is not unreasonable, which puts you ahead of many.

However, I must admit that you maximum speed seems a bit high, given that it has "7 more tons of armor than an Abrams" which cannot hit 55 mph in the first place. Or perhaps it can only hit that speed under optimum conditions, for very short dashes?

(You'd sell me with a picture ;))

OOC: -Snidely- All MY tanks have pictures :)

(ooc. Ive always thought it was funner to see it in my head (as in the picture) in my own fashion, however, I have been known to be slightly odd.)

As to the skeptic ( :wink: ), my tank produces 2100 horsepower, wheres the abrams produces 1500 at the flywheel. My tank has a low center of gravity (kind of a fat ass tank) allowing it to reach these speeds safely. As for the abrams, they have been known to go faster with the governor removed. Just like any piece of massive machinery, a well trained opererator has to be at the controls, otherwise you could easily lose control at those speeds in terrain that is innapropriate for such speeds.

So you don't know any RL tanks that resemble it?

It resembles a Leopard 2 tank, but with a slightly smaller turret, wider tracks, and longer main gun. The armor would be thicker at both the rear and front of tank with large reactant armor plates. The rediator grille on the rear would be slightly smaller in surface area, but taller than the leopard 2s. The anti-mechanized missle systems are mounted on either side of (or both sides) the turret. They have the appearance of four rocket toobs bound together and stabalized with steel shackles. their targeting systems are held within the tank. Certain current modification options include a armored riot shield in front of turret mounted mini-gun, and automatic grenade launcher in the place of the minigun.

Would any of these pics work?\
http://www.army.fr.pl/uzbr/leopard/leopard2.gif

http://www.army.fr.pl/uzbr/leopard/leopard2a5(3).gif

http://www.kampskolen.dk/images/Materiel-image/LEO-2%20(478x320).jpg

http://fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/row/leopard-2a5-s.jpg

Thank you very much, that pic will work very well.

nice tank u got there. :D

IC:my goverment would like to purchase 10 of these for testing if i we find them exceptable we will purchase more.

*money wired*

from Alfred Zimmed president of The Federal Capitalist Republic of Alphan zieonc law and ceo of Zimmed corp's

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Das Uber-Deutschland is proud to announce that we have completed our first major ground based military project, a main battle tank. The idea behind the massive expenditure of engineering capital behind this was to have an itegrated, top of the line tank that could out-pace, out-battle, and out-last any other tank design. My country recently made two hundered billion on a technology contract with another nation (a none military contract). This has jumpstarted production of the main battle tank.

Specs:
weight-75 tons
length-390 inches
width-145 inches
ground clearance-22 inches
obastacle crossing-51 inches
propolsion-V8 twin turbo diesel powering a 1566 KW (2100 hp) generator through gear reduction. 2 AC traction motors powering each track with hydraulic anti-vibration dampening.
Max speed-55 mph
armor-depleted uranium armor (7 tons more than M1 abrams). Active defensive armor available.
Armament-130mm smooth bore main cannon firing a bepleted uranium or tungsten projectile shrouded in a sabot.
1 anti-personal 5.56 NATO minigun mounted on turet.
1 anti-motorized thermal targeted missle system.
cost: around 6 million per unit
I dont want to clog up the board anymore, however if you need good reasons as to why this tank is superior to others, just telegram me, and ill give you facts. these are merely combat specs, they do not speak of the superior logistics this tank posseses. A simple comparison is between the abrams; notice an abrams weighs about 65 tons and goes 45 mph max. This tank weighs 75 tons yet can thunder around at 55mph. This is because the unit produces 2100 horsepower at the generator wheres an abrams generates 1500 before going through the thermaly innefiecient hydrokinetic (no, thats not a bs word) transmission.

Logistics:
First off, this tanks propulsion is better than the abrams because it uses no transmission. An inherent problom with transmissions (especialy heavy equipment tranies) is that they generate a lot of heat. This on top of massive torque make them not as reliable as could be desirable, as in high maitanence cost etc. The deisel electric propulsion of our tank completely eliminates the need of a transmission. All it needs is a simple clutch to allow it to idle. Also, the power to weight ratio of electric motors verses any kind of internal combustion engine is far greater. Every pound saved in the power to weight ratio equation equalls more allowance for armor. These electtric motors that run the tracks are very low maitanence and produce little heat. Since the diesel engine runs a generator, you basicaly have a moving generator as well, allowing possible future artilery pieces that can recieve power from armored devisions. In the area of armor, these tanks use depleted uranium. Depleted uranium is many times more dense than armor grade steel. With a more powerful propolsion system, this allows this tank to have more armor and still retain a top in class high speed. This armor thickness allows this tank to repel nearly all types of ammuniton a better percentage of time than any tank fielded today. In the area of armament, the main cannon, a smooth bore 130mm cannon, uses the same size projectile as a 120mm cannon, only it has a larger sabot that allows it to soak up more vibration and therfor be more accurate. The cannon is stabalised by a hydraulic dampening system that also keeps accuracy very good. Targeting for the main gun can be thermal, infrared, and night vision. The anti-mechanized missle system is designed to stop very fast incoming threats such as helicopters, and light mechanized vehicles. This system is thermaly targeted and after fired, fully automated. The anti-personal turet mounted mini-gun is fairly self explanetory, it fires a huge amount of lead in a small amount of time.

Price:
$6 million per unit

I'll have 10 if they're good I'll buy more

I'll have 15 for trial purposes

The Empire of Freikorp would like to Purchase 400 of these Tanks. With discount this comes to 2232000000. Money wired. Rahowa!

Alright now that you have a pic :D
we would like to purchase 100 tanks

We will take 500 of them, that comes to $2,790,000,000 almost Three billion. A man in a Hawaiian shirt will be walking up to your government offices with a large suitcase. The money will be in there. The shipment is to come into our southern port of New Vanderville. We are currently at war and I doubt that you would want to deploy them directly into the war zone.

All orders confirmed. Fulovit, your tanks will be delivered as asked. Friekorp, its good to have an ally re-equiping for war! your tanks will be delivered personaly by me and my personal SS gaurd division. For all others, your buisness is greatly appreciated and you will not be dissapointed with these machines.

Its a good tank, we'll take 500. Money wired upon confirmation.

I'll buy 200 of these tanks . Money will be wired upon confrimation .

Guten Tag, DUD,
We have only just come out of an economic crisis. So we're not mass spending but we would like to purchase 50 of these tanks.

$300'000'000 will be wired on confirmation. We will send fleet of LCAC's to pick the vehicles up.

OOC: Chuck the ship topic i've replied to your post.

Orders confirmed, your buinsness is greatly appreciated.

*Money Wired*

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The Empire would like to Order 150 of these MBTs. Since all of our Heavy MBTs were destroyed during our past Civil War.

Total Price: 900,000,000 US Dollars

My country General Ramirez would like to purchase 5000 of these tanks, which should total the 30 billion I'm wiring. In addition I am interested in the specifications.

Both orders confirmed, your buisness is greatly appreciated. These machines are the finest money can buy. Complete specifications can be found on my initial post. Nouvelle, your tanks will be shipped by freighter within the next two days (ooc: tommorw morning). General Ramirez, your tanks will be shipped within the next month (ooc: four reall days).

The Republic of Nistinummi will buy 95 King Tiger III main battle tanks for 570,000,000 dollars.

- Nistinummi Defence Forces (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2435124#2435124) -

order confirmed, as with all, your buisness is greatly appreciated.

What's the range for this tank?

Fuel efficiency is better than that of the abrams because, quite simply, its a diesel engine. Diesel power plants are some 30% more effiecient than gas engines. This is because diesel fuel contains some 15% more energy than gasoline fuel. Gas turbines produce more power per cubic inch than a diesel, but this comes with a cost, and that is horrible inneficiency, and high maitanence costs.

King Tiger III (PzKwX) tactical range:

fuel capacity-500 gallons

MPG of diesel fuel- .74 mpg average (as compared to .55 for abrams, 35% more fuel efficient)

tactical range- 370 miles (as compared to 275 miles for abrams)

I'll take 100 for a total of $600M.

Order confirmed, youll not be dissapointed with these machines.

rgrt. whats the delivery time?

We are capable of producing 25 of these machines a day right now (it used to be higher, however depleted uranium for the armor is in shorter supply than it had been because of a mass order). 2RL day delivery time.

Excellent.

Excellent.

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This is grassigo, we want to buy a lot of them, please telegram me and discuss the detail.

Telegram sent.