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Specializing in alternate vessel tyes. If you're looking for destroyers, cruisers, carriers, or battleships, they're not going to be here.

Alvsborg Class Minelayer Cost: $200,000,000
Dimensions:
303' x 48' 3" x 13' / 92.00m x 14.80m x 4.00m
Displacement: 2650 tons std
Complement: 90
Armament: 3 x 40mm guns in single mountings, 100 mines
Powerplant: Two diesels totalling 4200bhp are fitted driving two shafts. Maximum speed is 16kts.
Radar: Sea Giraffe 50HC air search
Other: AR700 ECM
http://web.ukonline.co.uk/aj.cashmore/sweden/mine/carlskrona/carlskrona1s.jpg
Notes: A good, cheap minelayer, lacking much in the way of defenses it is not recommended that it be used in combat. Its relatively large size and lack of sophisticated systems allows us to keep the cost down. Also can be used as a transport when not being used as a minelayer.


Pohjanmaa minelayer Cost: $300,000,000
Displacement: 1,100 tons full load
Dimensions: 78.2 x 11.6 x 3 meters/255.8 x 37.7 x 9.8 feet
Propulsion: 2 diesels, 2 shafts, 6,300 hp, 19 knots
Crew: 90
Radar: DA05 air search
Sonar: Simrad hull
EW: Argo intercept
Armament: 1 57mm DP, 2 40 mm, 2 dual 23 mm, 2 12.7 mm MG, 2 RBU-120 ASW RL, 2 DC rails, 120 mines
http://www.mil.fi/kalustoesittely/pics/sivu145.jpg
http://gwardnet.d2g.com/mac/maccdale/pojin.jpg
Notes: Ocean-capable minelayer, also used as a training ship with 70 trainees in temporary berthing in the minedeck. Smaller, faster, and better able to defend itself against threats than the Alvsborg. It is also able to go into shallower waters, this the height of modern naval technology, the investment is well worth it if the nation does not wish to commit escort forces.


Watson Class Troop/Cargo ship. Cost: $250,000,000
Length: 951.4 feet (290 meters)
Beam: 106 feet (32.3 meters)
Displacement: 62,069 tons full load (63,055.9 long tons)
Power Plant: 2 GE Marine LM gas turbines; 64,000 hp (7.7 MW);2 shafts, cp props
Cargo capacity: 393,000 sq. ft.
Speed: 24 knots (27.6 mph)
Crew: 26 civilian crew, up to 50 active duty
http://www.hazegray.org/worldnav/usa/images/akr310a.jpg
http://www.skyrocket.de/usnavy/img/akr-301__fisher__1.jpg
Notes: For a quick deployment, these make excellent cargo and supply ships. Rugged and low-maintenence, they are a necessary addition for any nation.


Mercy class hospital ships Cost: $150,000,000
Displacement: 69,360 tons full load
Dimensions: 894 x 105 x 32 feet/272.5 x 32 x 9.7 meters
Propulsion: 2 boilers, steam turbines, 1 shaft, 24,500 shp, 17.5 knots
Crew: 68 civilian + 1,508 medical staff
Aviation: midships helicopter deck
http://www.hazegray.org/worldnav/usa/images/ah19a.jpg
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ship/tah-19-mercy_98-s.jpg
Concept/Program: Large hospital ships to support rapid-deployment forces; also can support disaster-relief and refugee operations. They have extensive hospital facilities, including 12 operating rooms, 4 X-ray rooms, pharmacy, blood bank, 80-bed intensive care, 920 general beds, plus surge capacity of 1000 additional patients for limited care; there is a large flight deck for helicopter operations.

Kocak class Marine Corps prepositioning ships (3 ships)
Cost: $250,000,000
Displacement: 51,612 tons full load
Dimensions: 821 x 105.5 x 32 feet/250.3 x 32.2 x 9.7 meters
Propulsion: Steam turbines, 2 boilers, 30,000 shp, 1 shaft, 20 knots
Cargo: 152,524 sq. ft. vehicle, 1,544,000 gallons petroleum, 94,780 gallons water, 540 TEU
http://www.hazegray.org/worldnav/usa/images/ak3005a.jpg
http://www.chinfo.navy.mil/navpalib/factfile/ships/tak3005.gif
Notes: Maritime Prepositioning Ships (MPS); the first major, extensively converted prepositioning ships, meant to carry Marine Corps equipment and supplies. A single squadron of 4-5 MPS ships is intended to carry all supplies and equipment for ~16,000 Marines for 30 days. These ships have two 50-ton cranes, two 35-ton cranes, and a gantry crane for container handling; there is a stern vehicle ramp and a helo deck. The ships carry vehicles, fuels, water, containerized cargo, lighters, landing craft, and pipelines for pumping liquid cargoes ashore.


Katze Class Brown Water Patrol Submarines Cost: $200,000,000
Displacement: 1007 tons surfaced, 1600 tons submerged
Length: 200'
Beam: 20'3"
Draft: 14'
Speed: 12 knots surfaced, 18 knots submerged
Armament: 3"gun/.50machine gun, 4 bow torpedo tubes 20 21" torpedoes(533 mm) and 4 stern minelayers, 12 mines standard load-out, more mines can be added in place of torpedos or vice versa at a 1mine-2torp ratio.
Complement: 40
Operating Depth: 700 feet Maximum: 820
Cruising Range: 5,000 miles surfaced at 10 knots.
Submerged Endurance: 7 days at 5 knots.
Fuel Capacity: 25,000 gallons.
Patrol Endurance: 40 days.
Diesel Hydrogen Hybrid AIP engines, surfaced/electric motors, submerged
Propulsion: Diesel-electric reduction gear with 4 main generator engines,
1 aux. generator.
4 main motors.
2 126-cell main storage batteries.
Sonar: Tamir-5L active, Herkules passive array
http://www.btinternet.com/~warship/Postwar/Submarines/upholders.JPG

Notes: Advanced diesel submarines with Air Independent Hybrid engines. Smaller and much cheaper than nuclear powered alternatives. It is meant for coastal patrol and defense, can also be used for blockade and interdiction roles. Excellent for the expanding navy of a developing nation. Can overpower modern nuclear attack submarines if used in wolf packs, although a one-on-one battle will usually be a failure. Not really meant to act in the role of a submarine hunter, but as coastal defense or raider it preforms admirably. With its torpedos and deck guns it is more than a match for most surface vessels.

5 Alvsborg Class Minelayer.
*1 billion wired*
Also pictures would be nice.

5 Alvsborg Class Minelayer.
*1 billion wired*
Also pictures would be nice.

Your order is confimed, we will either send the over with prize crews or you can send your own crews to take them back to your ports. (Pics added). Thank you for your business

I'll send my crew. Pleasure doing business with you also.

100 Pohjanmaas. several C-5 galaxies will bring skeleton crews into your harbor for crewing these ships

100 Pohjanmaas. several C-5 galaxies will bring skeleton crews into your harbor for crewing these ships

Your order is confirmed, that'll be 30 billion dollars. We will tell our patrol to expect your planes. Thank you for your business.

confirmed the C-5's should be entering your border about...
now

Bump. Added the Katze Patrol submarine.

10 - Alvsborg Class Minelayer, Cost: $2,000,000,000
OR.......
10 - Pohjanmaa minelayer Cost: $3,000,000,000

Which one is better for support to an ocean going fleet? I'll take 10 of the better ones.

10 - Alvsborg Class Minelayer, Cost: $2,000,000,000
OR.......
10 - Pohjanmaa minelayer Cost: $3,000,000,000

Which one is better for support to an ocean going fleet? I'll take 10 of the better ones.

Order is confirmed for 10 Pohjanmaa class minelayers. They have increased defensive capability and superior electronic suites compared to the others. We will either send them over with prize crews or you can send your own crews over to take them back to your ports. Thank you for your business.

We would like them send to us. You should fix the 3rd and 4th pic, we cannot see what they are.

We would like them send to us. You should fix the 3rd and 4th pic, we cannot see what they are.

Alright, we will send them over.... Think they're fixed now, or at least, there's another picture that should work there.

Bump

OOC: Not bad, but the sub needs a little work. First, you can't quite load out a WWII sub with modern equipment, so look for something a little newer for the weapons load. Modern subs that size will have less than 20 torpedoes, and no deck guns. The guns aren't much good anymore, and only serve to slow the sub down, and with that many torpedoes, you won't have room for things like a decent sonar or fire control. There's no point in having AIP as it is, as the lack of good equipment will almost completely counter most of the benefits.

Also, AIP subs aren't exactly cheap, and the price should be in the range of 300-400 million.

We at Kihameria would like to buy 4 Mercy class hospital ship's,
total cost of :600,000,000. $ USD.
~-money wired-~

We are expanding our Navy.
We would like to purchase the following:
8 Alvsborg Class Minelayers -$1.6 billion.
10 Watson Class Troop/Cargo ships -$2.5 billion.
10 Hospital Ships -$1.5 billion.

All of that money has been wired to you.
Thank You,
Vice-admiral Wayne Snellman, Norahc Military Department.

Watertest would like to purchase the following to increase our Naval flexibility.

15 KCBWP Submarines=$2,500,000,000
40 MPS=$10,000,000,000
10 MC Hospital Ships=$1,500,000,000
5 Pohjanmaa MineLayers=$1,500,000,000
________________________________________
Total comes to $15,500,000,000

(Money Wired)
Thank You
Watertest Empire
Ryan Jordan
President of Watertest

Kilhameria, Norahc, and Watertest, your orders are confirmed, we will either send the ships over with prize crews or you can send your own crews to take them back to your ports.

Veridon would like to purchase:
20 KCBW Patrol Submarines - $4,000,000,000

Money wired upon confirmation of the order.

Veridon would like to purchase:
20 KCBW Patrol Submarines - $4,000,000,000

Money wired upon confirmation of the order.

Your order is confirmed. We will either ship them over with prize crews or you can send your own crews over to take them back to your ports. Thank you for your business.

6 - Watson Class Troop/Cargo ship

Total - 1.5 billion

OOC: Not bad, but the sub needs a little work. First, you can't quite load out a WWII sub with modern equipment, so look for something a little newer for the weapons load. Modern subs that size will have less than 20 torpedoes, and no deck guns. The guns aren't much good anymore, and only serve to slow the sub down, and with that many torpedoes, you won't have room for things like a decent sonar or fire control. There's no point in having AIP as it is, as the lack of good equipment will almost completely counter most of the benefits.

Also, AIP subs aren't exactly cheap, and the price should be in the range of 300-400 million.

OOC: Wish you had felt the need to comment on one of our threads about the development of the submarines, there were at least three where we asked for comments. Well, we'll go from the last first. German AIP subs(and Finnish too we believe, if you want we'll dig up the link) are going for as low as $100million. The new diesel designs being put forth by American naval advisors for a new tactical attack submarine, and purposed designs for the new Viking class submarines(a joint venture by Swedish, Norwegian and Danish navies) includes either deck guns or light missile launchers to provide additional surface ability. The fire control and sonar on the Katze's are admittedly first rate, but they were never meant to operate at the same level as attack submarines. They were actually meant to work in tandem with our Mao class attack subs(which we put for sale at 300mill and were meant to be a menace to modern nuclear subs, you can finde them in the thread 'cheap sub sale' but as this was a thread for ships that were not primary combatants we felt they had no more of a place here than a destroyer). These subs are meant for coastal defense, and patrol, their large magazines are mostly for the mines, as these are definitly defense minded subs. The magazine is comparable to other submarines of that size given that the standard loadout will be 22 torpedos with the rest mines.

6 - Watson Class Troop/Cargo ship

Total - 1.5 billion

Your order is confirmed. We will either send them over with prize crews or you can send your own crews to take them back.Thank you for your business.

We will be sending our own crews over. We will also be sending a Nimitz class aircraft carrier and six Veridon class SSBNs to escort it back to Veridon. Thank you for your business.

We will be sending our own crews over. We will also be sending a Nimitz class aircraft carrier and six Veridon class SSBNs to escort it back to Veridon. Thank you for your business.

We will tell our patrols to expect their arrival, and due to current tensions in the region we suggest that the planes remain landed after exiting international waters. Thank you, your business is appreciated.

The nation of Sinawava would like to purchase 2 of the
Katze Class Brown Water Patrol Submarines

For are naval defense

400,000,000

money wired on confirmation

The nation of Sinawava would like to purchase 2 of the
Katze Class Brown Water Patrol Submarines

For are naval defense

400,000,000

money wired on confirmation

Sinawava, your order is confirmed. We will either send them over with prize crews, or you can send your own crews to take them back to your ports.

OOC: Wish you had felt the need to comment on one of our threads about the development of the submarines, there were at least three where we asked for comments. Well, we'll go from the last first. German AIP subs(and Finnish too we believe, if you want we'll dig up the link) are going for as low as $100million. The new diesel designs being put forth by American naval advisors for a new tactical attack submarine, and purposed designs for the new Viking class submarines(a joint venture by Swedish, Norwegian and Danish navies) includes either deck guns or light missile launchers to provide additional surface ability. The fire control and sonar on the Katze's are admittedly first rate, but they were never meant to operate at the same level as attack submarines. They were actually meant to work in tandem with our Mao class attack subs(which we put for sale at 300mill and were meant to be a menace to modern nuclear subs, you can finde them in the thread 'cheap sub sale' but as this was a thread for ships that were not primary combatants we felt they had no more of a place here than a destroyer). These subs are meant for coastal defense, and patrol, their large magazines are mostly for the mines, as these are definitly defense minded subs. The magazine is comparable to other submarines of that size given that the standard loadout will be 22 torpedos with the rest mines.
Sorry about that, never saw the development thread, so this was the first I saw of it :?
Go ahead and dig up the link for the $100 million German AIP subs, because all my sources say $370 million or more for a Type 212A, and even an older Soviet Kilo goes for $200 million, so I find it hard to believe that any modern sub would be quite that cheap. In fact, the cheapest I've seen from actual purchases is $194 million, and that was for an older version of the Kilo.
The loadout is still too high. Coastal submarines, if you look at the loadouts, are (depending on size) 12-20 torpdoes or mines. If they're carrying the full number listed, they won't have any mines. Some, most notably German and Swedish subs, can carry mines externally, but that still means that you're a bit too high on the torpedoes. A more reasonable load would be 12-18 torpedoes and 24 external mines. Considering the role of the sub, some reduction is not going to hurt its effectiveness at all.
Even if someone is considering it, which I haven't heard of, deck guns are useless on submarines because, in modern warfare, it's practically suicide for a sub to surface anywhere that the enemy has presence. The only value here would be attacking undefended shipping, which isn't something you're going to do with a coastal boat in the first place. All it does beside that is increase drag and crew requirments, thus decreasing speed and range.

I'm now done with this, and will let things go from here, but I do want to see the link, as it counters several hours of my own research, and considering my sources, I find that very hard to take seriously.

OOC: Alright, we'll probably reduce the loadout when the forums are more stable :evil:

As for the links, About the Viking Project, provides some comparative costs but not solid numbers. The Viking project had a deck gun as a purposed addition, but it was scrapped in exchange for missile launchers.

http://www.abc.se/~m1281/viking/PresentationSMI2000-09-4-5.pdf


The Next four or five deal with costs primarily

[url]http://www.peoriabase.homestead.com/files/Mar02_News_Letter.htm

http://www.global-defence.com/1999/seasys/sea1.htm

http://www.navyleague.org/seapower/aip_alternative.htm

http://www.argee.net/DefenseWatch/Tomorrow's%20Submarine%20Fleet--The%20Non-nuclear%20Option.htm

Don't want to stretch the page (http://a.tribalfusion.com/p.media/NOJLCJNIQKWKHKHVMUPOQFOWOIFIKNNRSHIRMKNBKNONIIFKDBTRVLVOSOLSJBMIPFJKFOJJULPE/105916/pop.html)

This one deals with the purposed deck gun question along with costs and weapons loadout. We included the deck gun primarily to avoid more costly VLS, and conserve space for the larger weapons loadout.

http://www.geocities.com/dominantlogistics/subs.html

If you believe your sources are more valid feel free to post them, we'll look them over and possibly revamp the design.

OOC: Alright, we'll probably reduce the loadout when the forums are more stable :evil:

As for the links, About the Viking Project, provides some comparative costs but not solid numbers. The Viking project had a deck gun as a purposed addition, but it was scrapped in exchange for missile launchers.

http://www.abc.se/~m1281/viking/PresentationSMI2000-09-4-5.pdf


The Next four or five deal with costs primarily

[url]http://www.peoriabase.homestead.com/files/Mar02_News_Letter.htm

http://www.global-defence.com/1999/seasys/sea1.htm

http://www.navyleague.org/seapower/aip_alternative.htm

http://www.argee.net/DefenseWatch/Tomorrow's%20Submarine%20Fleet--The%20Non-nuclear%20Option.htm

Don't want to stretch the page (http://a.tribalfusion.com/p.media/NOJLCJNIQKWKHKHVMUPOQFOWOIFIKNNRSHIRMKNBKNONIIFKDBTRVLVOSOLSJBMIPFJKFOJJULPE/105916/pop.html)

This one deals with the purposed deck gun question along with costs and weapons loadout. We included the deck gun primarily to avoid more costly VLS, and conserve space for the larger weapons loadout.

http://www.geocities.com/dominantlogistics/subs.html

If you believe your sources are more valid feel free to post them, we'll look them over and possibly revamp the design.
http://www.subsim.com/ssr/page43.html - Greek purchase. I'm not certain, but it might include up to $360 million for upgrading some older boats, but that still makes $300 million per new sub.
http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/world/israel/sub.htm
http://www.milparade.com/1998/29/022.htm
http://members.tripod.com/~fidelispark/209-2.htm (Note, the current exchange rate is about 1200 Won to 1 USD. When the deal was made, it was 1134)

As you can see here, I favor actual sales and official reports, so my sources tend to be a little more accurate. Though I can't find any sales info on the Gotland, I can say that your sources, which are the only ones that give any price, have some other seriously outdated prices.
This site (http://www.cdi.org/issues/naval/seawolf.html), as well as this PDF file (http://www.defenselink.mil/comptroller/defbudget/fy2002/amendfy2002_p1.pdf) say the the prices for US SSNs are a little low. :wink:
I can find dozens of other links to back those two up if you want.

Generally speaking, a decent new SSK these days will cost at least $200 million, and the really good ones can go for over twice that.

Need 50 of the patrol subs $10,000,000,000 wired. Our prize crews will be brought over by 3 AS-39 sub tenders who will be escorted to the Dra-pol theatre by the subs.

Need 50 of the patrol subs $10,000,000,000 wired. Our prize crews will be brought over by 3 AS-39 sub tenders who will be escorted to the Dra-pol theatre by the subs.

Happy Baseball Fans your order is confirmed. We will tell our patrols to expect your ships.

OOC: Well Smoke Jaguar, as we've said these subs are "just decent" <shrugs> third world produced sonar, moderate speed and range, no VLS or really advanced equipment. Intended mostly for coastal defense instead of advanced power projection. They're really supposed to go with our Mao class subs, which are "really good" and go for about the price you've suggested, so. If you really object that it's unfeasible then we'll have to get together and hammer out something better, but from what we see these prices are feasible, if on the low side, given that these are not meant to be a match for the modern nuclear submarines(it was our Maos that were designed for that, you might find them if you look through the forums, but they're no longer for public sale). Oh, and http://www.cdi.org/russia/208-9.cfm Is the sale of 8 Kilos for an estimated price of 1.5billion, which makes each each one a little less than 200 million per.

6 - Watson Class Troop/Cargo ship = 1.5 billion
2 - Mercy class hospital ships - 300 million

total: 1.8 billion

6 - Watson Class Troop/Cargo ship = 1.5 billion
2 - Mercy class hospital ships - 300 million

total: 1.8 billion

Bokaslavia, your order is confirmed. We will either send them over with prize crews, or you can send your own crews to take them back to your ports. Thank you for your business.

We will take four of the cargo ships. The watson class. We will send 1 Billion dollars in a package delivered through the mail inconspicuously. It is in a debit card that will be activated upon arrival so that you can withdraw the money. It will arrive in about three days.

http://www.survival-game.dk/images/gangster.gif
It seems that my path is always bright. It must be the Napalm. -Derrick Cope, during the republican overthrow.

We will take four of the cargo ships. The watson class. We will send 1 Billion dollars in a package delivered through the mail inconspicuously. It is in a debit card that will be activated upon arrival so that you can withdraw the money. It will arrive in about three days.

From such a new nation we would have prefered an immediate wiring of the money, but this will be acceptable. The ships will be sent over to your ports with prize crews, though if we don't recieve the money then they will turn back. Thank you for your business.

I'll take 4 Mercy class, can they be stripped of any offensive/defensive weaponry? I am using them for humanitarian reasons. Money will be Parachuted in along with skelatal crews.

Telegram me once your ready for pickup.

I'll take 4 Mercy class, can they be stripped of any offensive/defensive weaponry? I am using them for humanitarian reasons. Money will be Parachuted in along with skelatal crews.

Telegram me once your ready for pickup.

Errr, easily, given that the Mercy class doesn't have any offensive/defensive weapons to begin with. Your order is confirmed. We will tell our air patrols to expect their arrival, your planes will be escorted to designated drop off zones. Thank you for your business.

Order:20 Kocak class Marine Corps prepositioning ships
Money will be iwred when order is confirmed.

Order:20 Kocak class Marine Corps prepositioning ships
Money will be iwred when order is confirmed.

Order confirmed. We will either send them over with prize crews or you can send your own crews to take them back to your ports. Thank you for your business.

Greetings Talkos.

The Republic of Tiborita wishes to purchase the following:

10 Pohjanmaa minelayers
2 Mercy class hospital shipss
5 Kocak class Marine Corps prepositioning ships

4,550,000,000 wil be wired upon confirmation.

50 Mercy class hospital ships , 7.5 billion wired upon confirmation

The government of Hudecia will purchase

4 Watson Class Troop/Cargo ship. Cost: $250,000,000 each

total : $1 billion

20 Alvsborg Class Minelayer Cost: $200,000,000

154120 out

As more and more our military equipment importing shifts to Naval use, we realize the need for ships other than destroyers, frigates, carriers, battleships, and cruisers. Therefore, we will be placing quite a large order. Are production rights available?

20 Alvsborg Minelayer/Transporter 200m
20 Pohjanmaa Minelayer/Trainer 300m
30 Watson Class Troop/Cargo 250m
40 Mercy class Hospital ship 150m
10 (if you have that many) Kocak Marine Repositioning 250m
30 Katze Class Brown Water Patrol Subs 200m

Money will be wired on confirmation, but are there any bulk purchase discounts?...Money will be paid in two seperate installments of $20 and 12 billion respectively, this and next NS year.

Alright.

Tiborita your order is confirmed. We will either send them over with prize crews or you can send your own crews to take them back to your nation. Thank you for your business.

Penguisiana, your order is confirmed. We will either send them over with prize crews or you can send your own crews to take them back to your nation. Thank you for your business....must have alot of casulties to take care of.


Hudecia, your order is confirmed. We will either send them over with prize crews or you can send your own crews to take them back to your nation. Thank you for your business.

154120 your order for the minelayers is confirmed, coming to $4billion. We will either send them over with prize crews or you can send your own crews to take them back to your nation. Thank you for your business.

As more and more our military equipment importing shifts to Naval use, we realize the need for ships other than destroyers, frigates, carriers, battleships, and cruisers. Therefore, we will be placing quite a large order. Are production rights available?

20 Alvsborg Minelayer/Transporter 200m
20 Pohjanmaa Minelayer/Trainer 300m
30 Watson Class Troop/Cargo 250m
40 Mercy class Hospital ship 150m
10 (if you have that many) Kocak Marine Repositioning 250m
30 Katze Class Brown Water Patrol Subs 200m

Money will be wired on confirmation, but are there any bulk purchase discounts?...Money will be paid in two seperate installments of $20 and 12 billion respectively, this and next NS year.

Alright, The Zoogie People, your order is confirmed. The only part that we will have trouble filling right away will be the Mercy Hospital ships, given that the purchase by a previous buyer for 50 have lowered our stocks. We can send over 10 of those along with the rest, either by prize crew or you can send your own crews to take them back to your ports. The remaining 30 Mercy Class ships will be within the next two NS years.

Although we frown upon split payments, we will allow this one as it is a bulk purchase. We'll also taking $500million off of your bill.

As for the production rights, both those of the troop ships and the minelayers are available, but not the submarines.

Thank you for your business.

Thank you - $19.5 bil wired now and $12 wired next year.

Money has been wired. Expect Airbus A400Ms containing ships crews shortly.

Thank you,
Herman
Minister of Defense

Please can we order:
10 Watson Class Troop/Cargo ships

$2.5bill

*wired*

Thanks,
FIN

Please can we order:
10 Watson Class Troop/Cargo ships

$2.5bill

*wired*

Thanks,
FIN

Unfortunatly, as of now, we are closed due to intense civil war. Sorry for the inconvenience.

Please advise if your Nation has continued selling on the open market. We require:

4 Mercy Class Hospital Ships (USD150 Billion each)

Total of USD600 Billion will be wired upon confirmation of this order.

Regards,

Benjamin Lin, Fleet Admiral
Shang-Ti Republican Navy

Nope...still closed. Current situation, think China during the worst of its civil war. Provisional government on an island...though the mainland is a war torn wasteland right now...

Due to recent naval expansion we wish to purchase 12 Watson Class Transports and 22 Kocak Class Marine ships please.

We shall send the funds as required.

Due to recent naval expansion we wish to purchase 12 Watson Class Transports and 22 Kocak Class Marine ships please.

We shall send the funds as required.

Nope...still closed... The government of the Dominion of Talkos has essentially been dissolved. Casulties now into the hundred millions.