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We have not tested it yet, but it is completed. It is so huge, it requires a fission bomb to trigger a small fusion bomb, which triggers a medium sized one, which triggers a huge one that has antimatter assist to boost the yield to 1 gigaton. So far, we have built a dozen. Any buyers? They are going for 200 billion dollars each.

And just when you thought you could enter the international community and get some respect, you go and do something like this and tarnish any chances of that.

We'll buy all of them to make sure no one else can have them. And then launch them towards the sun.

Uh... How do you move it? A bomb that big would need a plane built around it... that is pretty pathetic, considering the pricetag. And that much bomb wouldn't fit on any missile, so where's the point? I can only see it useful if you want a weapon to self-destruct yourself...

Where's the fun in that?

Uh... How do you move it? A bomb that big would need a plane built around it... that is pretty pathetic, considering the pricetag. And that much bomb wouldn't fit on any missile, so where's the point? I can only see it useful if you want a weapon to self-destruct yourself...

Where's the fun in that?

He has a point. I'm canceling my order.

such a bomb could only be used to destroy our planet
The Great Soviet Union of The Terran Coalition will not allow this
dismantle your stock ofthese weapons or we will be forced to deploy our military to counter your overwhelming evilness.

For the glory of the Union

you know, if a weapon that size and power detonates, well, let's just say i don't want to be on the same planet

OOC: A 1 gigaton nuke?
Considering that it's 10 times as powerful as any weapon ever conceived, I'd say it's a bit much. Besides, there'd be no effective way to deploy it (you're looking at something like dropping it out of a modified C-5 Galaxy here).
Assuming it could be done, you'd have a fireball stretching out for a radius of 7 - 11 km (depding on altitude), near total fatalities within 27 km of the detonation point, widespread destruction for over 70 km, and 3rd degree burns out to 200 km!
That's for nothing less than knocking out an entire metropolitan area. Don't think too many people would stand for that. Heck, you'd probably get glassed by the retaliation from other nations.

It's antimatter assisted. It's actually pretty compact. Next, we've designed a missile to carry it. Also, we ran some calculations. The nuke won't destroy the planet. It'll just permanently alter the climate, seriously affect Earth's orbital period, and make funny looking kids alarmingly common. Besides, this nuke isn't designed for terrestrial use: it's a space warship weapon. However, now that you mention it, we do have weapons-grade anti-proton boost modules for sale.

Y'know, if you just make the whole warhead use antimatter, it'll both weigh a lot less and you won't need anywhere nearly as much material. Good luck at keeping it contained, though.

Hmm.... That would suck up government funds in order to research something of this scale. Remember, your running a nations, only a small percent goes to military...

You have a point

Basically, the nuke is a five staged weapon. First, you have two kg. of Octol triggering a very large fission blast. The fission blast sets off a fusion blast, which in turn sets off another fusion blast, this one with a little added spike from from some antiprotons. The result is that once the blast is under way, some matter annihalation occurs, boosting the blast up some 250 mgt. or so. Anyway, if anyone is wondering why the Moon has suddenly changed orbit, and why birth defects are suddenly becoming a lot more common, we just tested the thing. On the far side of the Moon, in New American territory. We've decided to name the crater 'FLK Crater.' FLK stands for Funny Looking Kid. You can make the association very easily, or so I assume...

... I'm not going to say a word...

And as of now KalEtch is hostile towards New America, uping all defense and armed forces in its direction

We have now targeted 200 IPBM-400s at KalTECH, and we have put one of our numerous loony madman generals (General Ripper, in this case) at the firing button...Wait, no. Get rid of General Ripper. Pension him off. Get General Cutter on the case. Let me tell you, KalTECH...if you attack us, all children born from that moment on in your country...will be funny looking. Besides, we are a mainly spacefaring nation. Do you have a space force of any sort?

'Cmon, this is clearly against good rp ediquit. You cannot magically have "gigabombs" -er whatever they are and threaten random people with it without no reason. Do yuo think that the NS earth would exist if the human race was this notorious?

We have not tested it yet, but it is completed. It is so huge, it requires a fission bomb to trigger a small fusion bomb, which triggers a medium sized one, which triggers a huge one that has antimatter assist to boost the yield to 1 gigaton. So far, we have built a dozen. Any buyers? They are going for 200 billion dollars each.

And America was accusing us (when we were Iraq) of having WMDs...

Al Anbar demands immediate action on this 'New America'! New America must be disarmed and inspected by a UN team. We will not allow such an injustice to go ahead and allow 'New America' to possess such a weapon!

Ha! And what can YOU do about it? We are bigger than you be several hundred million people, AND we control most of Near Earth Space (well, just the L5 lagrange point) Again, if YOU attack us, all kids in your country will be born funny looking, too.

Ha! And what can YOU do about it? We are bigger than you be several hundred million people, AND we control most of Near Earth Space (well, just the L5 lagrange point) Again, if YOU attack us, all kids in your country will be born funny looking, too.

A criminal nation 'New America' is! Threatening to use WMDs on us when we have threatened nothing and have only asked for inspections and disarmament of your criminal nuclear weapons program.

wow new american, you really have a massive region of 1 nation

second, you have a weak economy and third, if you really are a spacefaring race, i'd expect you to at the very least have fusion tech by now

anyways, we are about to launch our Anti-ICBM system as well as an orbital space defense platform into space as a base of operations for our further expansion into space

and just so you know for sure, we have several extremely powerfull (1 billion+) nations backing us up

now i suggest you stop threatening people with WMD strikes before someone decides to launch a pre-emptive strike on you

I will help protect New American from danger and will ask for one of the bombs.

OOC:

I once had a one gigaton nuclear device but my dog ate it.

OOC: This is ridiculous. For one thing, with a weak economy, even using a quarter of your entire budget on this thing would only be 77 billion a year, and this would take trillions. For another, this COULD NOT EXIST in RL. It just wouldnt work (the concept of 'antimatter', for one thing, sorta hurts the realism.). 1 Gigaton is ridiculous, it would be completely immobile. You'd end up blowing yourself up.

IC: Elijah Marris, Triumviral Praetor, has just sent a coded message to his generals.

[code:1:3b6f64e0ba]Prepare the Ignore Cannon[/code:1:3b6f64e0ba]

===Triumvir News Network===
The Praetor is about to make a major announcement. We stand here live in the Triumvir's Council Chambers, awaiting Praetor Marris.

Here he is, now

"Good citizens of the Triumvirate, I show you now the precise work that our military has done. As we speak, General Friedrich is preparing to launch the I.G.N.O.R.E. Cannon towards the land of New American. I bring you now live video feed of the launch."

(video feed comes in, General Friedrich launches the cannon)

"Thank you for your time"

This has been a TNN exclusive. We now return you to "Bigtopians say the Darndest Things".
===TNN===

Thank you, Brydog. And we do have fusion tech. Anyway, Brydog, the nuke will soon arrive on the cargo lander YT-278. In addition to this, we are sending aid in the form of a detachment of F-96 high-speed (near-C) fighters.

(OOC) Actually anti-matter is possible but if its an anti-matter bomb firstly it would cost trillions to produce the stuff they produce something like 1/2 a gram a year in the big science facilities, secondly you'd have real issues with it not spontaneously exploding, it could be contained in a magnetic field, but I wouldn't want to try it, unless it was suitably far away from my country. Thirdly, if it's anti-matter its not a nuclear bomb is it?
So in conclusion New America is not winning any friends with this one.

There is nothing wrong with anti-matter as the warhead of a weapon. You'll just need to contain it so that it does not get into contact with any matter before its required to. The real problem with anti-matter is the difficulty of its production, and you would need around 40 kilograms of antimatter to achieve an energy release of 1 gigaton. Anyhow, by using regular means of fission and fusion nuclear devices, a 1 gigaton ICBM just isnt feasible. With current and little future tech you could propably build a 200 megaton ICBM but allready that would be damn big unless you were using some reactionless drive.

*Yawn*

*Cough*Godmode*Cough*

Yes with you weak economy, you made a 1 Gigaton Nuke, What is held to geather with Spitballs and Ducktape?


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Gen. Sophie Trent
Head of the White-X Military
The Dynasty of White-X, Osaka City
Current Military Budget: $755,099,229,000

a bit of pictures might help.

Looking at your output from the GDP Calc, i could see how you could afford it :roll:

New American Gross Domestic Product
Population: 521,000,000
Civil Rights: Superb
Economy: Weak
GDP per Capita: $3,000
GDP: $1,563,000,000,000
National Budget: $275,638,176,000



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Aya Hashimoto
Minister for Tourism / Treasurer
The Dynasty of White-X (http://users.tpg.com.au/hibbs/xdf/), Osaka City
Current National Budget: $ 5,033,994,860,000
Current GDP: $ 19,380,000,000,000

Considers sending a trained attack monkey with a machine gun, since to create such a weapon with that budget, he must have almost no guards...

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Emperor Yurka VII

"Send it..."

Yurka deploys its attack monkey via go-cart to take out your bomb

One Gigaton Nuclear device? Why waste the money when a Ruskie with an AK-47 can do the same job more efficently?

Looking at your output from the GDP Calc, i could see how you could afford it :roll:

New American Gross Domestic Product
Population: 521,000,000
Civil Rights: Superb
Economy: Weak
GDP per Capita: $3,000
GDP: $1,563,000,000,000
National Budget: $275,638,176,000



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Aya Hashimoto
Minister for Tourism / Treasurer
The Dynasty of White-X, Osaka City
Current National Budget: $ 5,033,994,860,000
Current GDP: $ 19,380,000,000,000

OOC : Just being nosey, but I checked your claimed budgets, and they're rubbish! Where the hell did you get those figures from?! (Meaning White-X)

OOC: kind of happens when you a Dynasty made out of 4 Nations, http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=98605

K, thanks for the explanation!

I'm seriously considering 'smiting' this guy.



And a one gigaton tnt-equivilent evergy release would take 22.2222(etc) kilos of antimatter(or the conversion of 44.444(etc) kilos of matter into energy). It would not make a good bomb because A) its atleast a few orders of magnitude more expensive than a normal nuke of the same yeild and B) most of the energy would be released as high-energy particle and gamma radiation, so there'd be little if any 'explosion'.

You want a bigass bomb? Duct tape a bunch of smaller bombs together and sync their detonation system.

OOC: kind of happens when you a Dynasty made out of 4 Nations, http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=98605

Using those nations in an RP is basicly cheating, unless they all have different players.

1 gigaton? He's nuts. It will take out an entire planet (Earth size).

1 gigaton? He's nuts. It will take out an entire planet (Earth size).

No fear everyone...The monkey will handle it... 8) And don't worry, Yurka has had its fair share of nuclear holocaust... :twisted:

hmm, don't you think a monkey with a load of C4 and the instruction to blow himself up next to the devices would be enough ???

oh and please, don't detonate those things, it would mean every country on earth would need relocating

You can test it on my country if you give me some money.

OOC:In 1951 scientists had shown a different way of using fusion in nuclear weapons, the so-called booster principle. Unlike the super bomb, which used a small A-bomb simply to kindle the huge hydrogen burn that produced its tremendous yield, the booster bomb used a relatively large fission explosion to ignite a small hydrogen burn; neutrons produced by the hydrogen burn were then used to increase, or boost, the efficiency of the continuing fission reaction. In 1953 the Soviet Union exploded a small booster device. The United States exploded a 15-megaton device using this principle in the Bravo test at Bikini Atoll on March 1, 1954; a Soviet test followed a year later. In subsequent years, development efforts were directed toward perfecting H-bombs of various sizes that could be delivered by aircraft, ICBMs, and submarine-launched ballistic missiles.

A 20-megaton bomb is capable of increasing the immediate effects of a one megaton bomb from a 2-mi radius to a 6-mi radius. This is roughly the yield of a warhead that is carried on an ICBM. A Minuteman III missile can carry up to 10 warheads, but is currently limited to 3 warheads due to reduction-in-arms treaties.

A 60-megaton bomb was exploded by the Soviet Union in 1961, 16 years after a 15 kiloton bomb was dropped on Nagasaki, Japan, ending World War II. This bomb had the highest yield of any nuclear weapon to date.

The H-bomb's fusion reaction has no theoretical limit. Although, larger bombs may be produced simply by adding more hydrogen fuel, little effort has been directed toward increasing existing yields. Attention has focused instead on developing smaller weapons with greater accuracy.

The 60-megaton Soviet bomb is believed to have consisted of the first two parts of a so-called fission-fusion-fission bomb. Such a bomb would combine the principles of the super and the booster: a fission explosion ignites a fusion reaction that in turn causes the fissioning of the bomb's uranium casing.

Consider these FACTS and then examine your gigaton weapon.

a bit of pictures might help.

OOC: How will pictures help? Enlighten me, please.

hmm, don't you think a monkey with a load of C4 and the instruction to blow himself up next to the devices would be enough ???

oh and please, don't detonate those things, it would mean every country on earth would need relocating

Don't worry, Yurka's monolithic bomb shelter should withstand the blast! Whos to say the monkey will even shot the missile in its mad shooting frenzy? Well, me for one, but thats besides the point.

The monkey crept towards the base, as he approached, he noticed guards, or something, well anywho, he flung some feces at it as a distraction and charged into the complex, firing wildly!

The Monkey ran into the base, firing it's AK47, wildly. Click! The clip is empty, and three scientists fall to the ground, full of bulletholes. The final remaining scientist limps with a mokey-scratched leg over to a big black sphere with "BOMB" written in big yellow letters on it. The shpere has a small hole in it. The scientist laughs manicically as he pushes the "engage" button. A feminine voice begins the countdown.

10...

9...

8... The facility begins to shake

7...

6...

5... The shaking causes the monkey to fall over, and the scientist to collapse on a sharp knife.

4...

3...

2...

1...

The shaking stops. A rod sticks out of the hole on the bomb, and a message unfolds. It reads, "Boom!". The bomb then disenigrates.

The monkey shrugs, picks up his gun, and leaves.

[i]The Monkey ran into the base, firing it's AK47, wildly. Click! The clip is empty, and three scientists fall to the ground, full of bulletholes. The final remaining scientist limps with a mokey-scratched leg over to a big black sphere with "BOMB" written in big yellow letters on it. The shpere has a small hole in it. The scientist laughs manicically as he pushes the "engage" button. A feminine voice begins the countdown.

10...

9...

8... The facility begins to shake

7...

6...

5... The shaking causes the monkey to fall over, and the scientist to collapse on a sharp knife.

4...

3...

2...

1...

The shaking stops. A rod sticks out of the hole on the bomb, and a message unfolds. It reads, "Boom!". The bomb then disenigrates.

The monkey shrugs, picks up his gun, and leaves.

The monkey is taken back to Yurka where he is heralded as a war hero for saving the world! There is a big parade over the barren city of Yurka as the shanty town tosses random fruit at him, the monkey firing off a large pile of AK-47s into the air, on the side of the road, and into the occasional homeless person, later that day the monkey is given a large statue, and his face is being planned to be put on some currency.

Thankyou brave war hero :cry:

...He didn't even die?

Jesus, what a cool pet! :D

*snicker*

He is truly the king of kings! I hope your nation makes good use of such ideal soldiers, i know if my army was put up against such a fiend, we wouldn't stand a chance! :lol:

1) Ah Ramondlands we need to discuss your orbital station...
2) I hereby fire the Ignore 3000 at the creator of this thread, I'm not dealing with this idiocy at the moment...

Okay. We have given 1 trillion to FU Land. We are lauching the nuke. It is inbound...oh damm. We launched the one TERATON bomb, not the gigaton one...Bye, bye, East pacific region...*watches as the explosion rips off a significant portion of Earth's crust, creating a new moon, while setting of a fusion reaction in the Pacific that does even more damage*

Okay. We have given 1 trillion to FU Land. We are lauching the nuke. It is inbound...oh damm. We launched the one TERATON bomb, not the gigaton one...Bye, bye, East pacific region...*watches as the explosion rips off a significant portion of Earth's crust, creating a new moon, while setting of a fusion reaction in the Pacific that does even more damage*

Okay. We have given 1 trillion to FU Land. We are lauching the nuke. It is inbound...oh damm. We launched the one TERATON bomb, not the gigaton one...Bye, bye, East pacific region...*watches as the explosion rips off a significant portion of Earth's crust, creating a new moon, while setting of a fusion reaction in the Pacific that does even more damage*

New America-- I thought only n00bs were less than 3 days old, but you have changed my thoughts, you are older than us by a day or so. Why would anyone believe you? This is so Fucking stupid I cannot describe you.

THIS IS YET ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF RPING GOING DOWN THE TOILET

Oh yeah, and let this post die.

Can something actually be anti-matter assisted?

oh yeah and you have been ignored. one TERATON!?!?!?! and for the entertainment of the other people included is a picture of the bomb damage.

http://www.canarys.com/thenest/holidays/paraguay/images/bullet-hole.JPG

I have 1 teraton of...































































Jane's Addiction albums...

Oy...It fizzled. Those General Annihalation executives are gonna pay.