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FYI: What you should NOT post in International Incidents

Automagfreek
27-11-2003, 08:38
What is International Incidents?

It was a forum created to cater to the roleplayers of NationStates. Here is where you roleplay war, storefronts, meetings, or any other event (such as a bank robbery).

What do I do in International Incidents?

Easy, you roleplay. Roleplaying is like telling a story, remember that. Also, International Incidents is NOT the place for Out Of Character (OOC) discussions!!! Save that stuff for the NationStates forum.

EXCEPTION: If you have a roleplay thread and do not want it clogged up with OOC posts, create a seperate thread for them.

EXAMPLE: There are 2 threads, one called "War with Automagfreek (RP Only) and "War with Automagfreek (OOC Only). Get it?

What should I NOT post in International Incidents?

Anything that is


Spam ("NOOKZ 4 SALE!!1111 5 BUCKZ APIECE!!11)
Strictly OOC material (What's your favorite color? )
Technical questions (How do I trade with another player? Or How do I add pics to my thread?)
Insult threads (Country X is a dumb-dumb stoopid head!)


There is no need for any of the above to be in International Incidents. This is a roleplaying forum. If you do not want to roleplay, go to the General forum. Please do not ruin the fun of those that want to RP, at least show that courtesy.

Note added by TJHairball: Threads not belonging in II found here will be deleted or moved to the appropriate forum section as we find them. RP threads may be moved from NS to II or vice versa at author's request. In addition, the mods do have free license to keep very poor quality RP out of II - rampant violation of RP ettiquette does not belong in II. See the other stickies for details on this.

Um...I'm not sure what to post!

Well, here's some examples!

Example of war: Operation: EVEREST: Sniper Country VS Omz222 (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=92567)
Example of a storefront: ARSS Storefront- New Products- Great Deals for NSFA members
(http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=92908)
Example of regular roleplay: School children taken hostage (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=96729)

EXAMPLE OF WHAT TO NEVER, EVER POST IN INTERNATIONAL INCIDENTS: OMFG1111 I PWN J00 4LL1111111 (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=97572)

REMEMBER: The mods do drop in on International Incidents from time to time, so keep this in mind the next time you think about filling this forum up with junk.

For those that actively RP in I.I, keep up the good work. You set a great example to the rest of us.
Automagfreek
27-11-2003, 08:53
If anybody has any questions about some of the more "technical" aspects of I.I, you can refer to my thread located in the "Archive" forum

FYI: War, Diplomacy, Nuclear Weapons and Economy (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=55640)
Iraqstan
27-11-2003, 09:11
Aye it does say trade but to class Storefronts as RP is kinda....giving a rather broad and slutty name to RP :P.

For the most I look at this forum to laugh since there's some funny stuff here. Still there are some diamonds among the dirt though. Worth keeping around :)
Automagfreek
27-11-2003, 09:13
Aye it does say trade but to class Storefronts as RP is kinda....giving a rather broad and slutty name to RP :P.

:shivers: Tell me about it.....

For the most I look at this forum to laugh since there's some funny stuff here. Still there are some diamonds among the dirt though. Worth keeping around :)

True (again). Me and Pantera did some great RP here, but most of the serious RPers have stayed in NS. Which sparks the question: is I.I a noob forum? (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=89019)
Iraqstan
27-11-2003, 09:17
I think of it more as a.... place. It's interesting but really.... not that recognised. Which in it's own way is good. Storefronts are not polluting the nationstates forum and that stays clean for RP. :P

It's a stalemate between wanting this forum to be around or not. If it goes alot of spam moves to NS. It stays alot of people make silly stuff here. Eitherway the hardcore RPers lose :P
27-11-2003, 09:18
Storefronts should not be considered RP, and should be considered 'Pseudo-RP', as they aren't roleplay. As far as I know, I can't walk into Canada, go to a store, and buy 6 F-16s and 5 Leopard 2s.
Automagfreek
27-11-2003, 09:21
Storefronts should not be considered RP, and should be considered 'Pseudo-RP', as they aren't roleplay. As far as I know, I can't walk into Canada, go to a store, and buy 6 F-16s and 5 Leopard 2s.

True, but you're not a "nation" in RL, now are you. :wink:

I agree, storefronts are "iffy" RP, but like Iraqstan said, it's better here than in NS I suppose....because it technically could fall under trade...
27-11-2003, 09:21
I dont think there really is any difference between selling nukes and storefronts. Storefronts by far are NOT RP'd and now days quite sadly done.

Few topics there were quite well done but over all...it just....dunno.

Hmm... I agree. Bad spelling, outrageous specifications, pictures that "break" the forum window, bad pictures, broken pictures, no descriptions, no RPing make for really bad storefronts (whew!). And people just copy those examples. Some of the off-site storefronts are the best, really. We could use a (new) list of storefronts thread, with rankings. But that would just lead to lots of flames ("I WAS GIV3N ON3 ST4R! I N00K J00, M0D!"). Oh well.

Here's a blatant advertisement for my new storefront: Click Here! (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=97763)
Tell me what you think.
Dra-pol
27-11-2003, 09:25
Pfft. Almost the entire modern history of The Choson People's Republic of Dra-pol was played out in this forum, and continues to be played out in the Crusader Wars and so on..

An alternative WWII is based here, and involves several of the best RPers around.

"Storefronts" would be RP if they were done properly. It hurts them to be thought of as storefronts, though. People are too darned impatient. I'd not mind negotiating arms contracts, but who will bother going along with it? I end up saying that, oh, a deal was done with China..because there's not much alternative.

We need a press-gang to haul folk on to the good ship Roleplay.
Automagfreek
27-11-2003, 09:31
Dra-Pol: Tell me about it. Some of my best RPing has come from this forum. The Halls of the Dead, The Blood Pact, etc....

LE: Thanks bro. It's up to us the players to keep this place in order!
27-11-2003, 09:32
"Storefronts" would be RP if they were done properly. It hurts them to be thought of as storefronts, though. People are too darned impatient. I'd not mind negotiating arms contracts, but who will bother going along with it? I end up saying that, oh, a deal was done with China..because there's not much alternative.

Negitiating arms contracts and agreements ... now that's an idea! :D Still, you should be able to purchase smaller items or small amounts of items in stores (or through arms market contacts, if you prefer) but selling 24 aircraft carriers is very silly. Negotiations and trades need to be set up. Selling raw materials is also acceptable I think.
Automagfreek
27-11-2003, 09:38
If you think about it, since most storefront purchases are made OOCly, then technically can they still use them ICly? I mean, if their leaders or other personnel didn't buy them, should they technically be able to use their purchases ICly? It's kinda along the lines of declaring war for OOC reasons....
Dra-pol
27-11-2003, 09:48
Oh, yeah, on the few instances (one instance?) that Dra-pol has used a store-front thread I at least meant it to be a transaction arranged by one of my characters (Secretary Hotan.. or his staff.. I forget).

I would prefer we knew which nation to go to, and could approach them with diplomats seeking a specific contract (be it their government or a private contractor- the latter being less likely in sham-communist Dra-pol's case).. but NS nations are run by one person- they can't deal with being approached by dozens of other nations wanting to RP trade deals, I suppose.

I'm not sure of the best way around it.
Automagfreek
27-11-2003, 10:33
Roania's storefront in NS is showing RP promise.
Roania
27-11-2003, 10:38
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=97780

Storefront? What storefront?

http://images.google.com.au/images?q=tbn:KPvOi8wv4eIC:spookysrpg.tripod.com/images/gallery/csm-3.jpg
Mr. Johnston
CEO of Roania Covert Arms
New Eastgate
27-11-2003, 11:09
(Hey, I think that I just watched your Mr.Johnston shoot someone through a door!)
Tom Joad
27-11-2003, 11:23
All good but you missed out something which is that people need to delete those duplicate topics of theirs. It's bad enough if you get topics that shouldn't be there but when there's three of them it's ridiculous!

As for the trade being RP or not, if you RP it out in a realistic way like saying you'll order a total of 12 copies of "X product" with them being delivered over Z number of months/years then it has an RP element and then of course if you add in something about lucractive return trade agreements it adds to it even more.
_Taiwan
27-11-2003, 12:02
The most annoying thing with storefronts are that there are dozens of them selling the same RL products.
Setian-Sebeceans
27-11-2003, 21:36
Great FYI post, should be stiky.

Hey Thanks for chosing my storfront for an example.
27-11-2003, 22:32
In storefronts I never wire money (unless they force me to). I know its realistic but its not as fun this is how i normally order:

"The republic of Kazaakisthan would like to purchase the following consignment of weapons/resources:

112 Object X
Cost: $54'678

10 Object Y
Cost: $10 Million

We are dispatching the money by cargo plane, it will be escorted by 4 F-22's. Please lower all air defences!"

If i am purchasing land vehicles I will send a ship over to collect them, if i am purchasing sea or air vehicles i'll parachute the pilots in with the money. WHich save on the ost of getting the plane off the ground again.
Copiosa Scotia
30-11-2003, 02:21
Major problems with storefronts:

1) They discourage RP. RPing a purchase takes time, and the more time a nation operating a storefront takes per sales, the fewer sales it's going to make in any given amount of time. In general, storefronts are a way of making money for your country without taking the time to develop your country.

2) Nations almost invariably sell equipment brand-new from their storefronts. Though this almost makes sense communist nations, and others in which the economy is under government control, it's ridiculous for any nation with a free-market economy. Remember, in most cases, it's not your government that produces these weapons/vehicles. Usually, it's a private company contracted by the government, and when this is the case, most of the weapons/vehicles in government possession will probably be used ones. If you're going to insist on selling new equipment, the company should get the profit, with the government getting, at most, a cut agreed upon in the contract.

3) Many nations who run storefronts tend to be way too free with their top-tier military equipment. When's the last time you heard about the U.S. selling B-2 bombers or Trident SSBNs? When the U.S. does sell military equipment, they often sell a stripped-down "export variant" (i.e. the F-16/79, a version of the F-16 with deliberately limited strike capabilities and inferior payload/range performance).
30-11-2003, 03:37
Major problems with storefronts:
3) Many nations who run storefronts tend to be way too free with their top-tier military equipment. When's the last time you heard about the U.S. selling B-2 bombers or Trident SSBNs? When the U.S. does sell military equipment, they often sell a stripped-down "export variant" (i.e. the F-16/79, a version of the F-16 with deliberately limited strike capabilities and inferior payload/range performance).
Depends on how badly you want the money. Russia is selling its top T-80U, T-90, and BMP-3 models (brand new), selling nuclear reactors and the MiG I-2000 stealth design to Iran, etc. France exports its Lafayette class stealth frigate. Etc.
Automagfreek
30-11-2003, 04:06
I know this is very off topic...but YAY! It's an announcement now!!!!
30-11-2003, 04:31
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Daistallia
30-11-2003, 04:42
A few IC threads of mine that IMHO make good trade:

Making purchases: RL nations don*t walk into a storefront and say give me 10 tanks. They tender bids.
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=68294&highlight=

I will note that I generally try to tender bids, but have given up on it and now produce everything natively. This was mostly due to bad responeses. Do not post all your storefront when someone tenders a bid. :roll: Try to meet the bid. Also don*t pick fights. I have canceled the last 4 tenders for one or both of those reasons.


Sales:
indentured labor contracts
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=71198&highlight=

mercs
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=97042&highlight=

auction
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=89559&highlight=

Hopefully these better (IMHO) alternatives to RPing a storefront will catch on.
Chinese Airforce
30-11-2003, 05:44
So I have to make a OOC thread when I make a thread that says "Missile Store" for people to put OOCs in?
Automagfreek
30-11-2003, 05:48
So I have to make a OOC thread when I make a thread that says "Missile Store" for people to put OOCs in?

No, because that is a storefront.
Roania
30-11-2003, 06:20
(Hey, I think that I just watched your Mr.Johnston shoot someone through a door!)

No, you didn't. Do I make myself clear?

http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0TgDWAhkYvrxM!TxPhVUgL85giwbXgiuvGW*Yc036RMdpEBxZzjB0fezx*UcmMCUqZrpSxUR*LIU2SweiSZY9eZXcpKjTJwlck!G UttCrnhZI8d*AtAf59w/Mr.%20Johnson.jpg?dc=4675449047242352825
Mr. Johnson
CEO of Roania Covert Arms[/img]
The Canadian Tundra
30-11-2003, 07:25
Well after reading through some of this, I have decided to redo my storefront but as an Arms contract thing...please tell me what you think, http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2194746#2194746
TROUSRS
30-11-2003, 15:16
[Nice AMF, very nice. It seems more like NationStates is the good forum and International Incidents is the newbie forum... which is true. I've tried to RP more in NS but I can't because II is my home, which means I have to put up with or try to change this crap that goes on. We need a mod that has an interest in II and will be stirct about good RPing, eh?]
Copiosa Scotia
30-11-2003, 16:33
Major problems with storefronts:
3) Many nations who run storefronts tend to be way too free with their top-tier military equipment. When's the last time you heard about the U.S. selling B-2 bombers or Trident SSBNs? When the U.S. does sell military equipment, they often sell a stripped-down "export variant" (i.e. the F-16/79, a version of the F-16 with deliberately limited strike capabilities and inferior payload/range performance).
Depends on how badly you want the money. Russia is selling its top T-80U, T-90, and BMP-3 models (brand new), selling nuclear reactors and the MiG I-2000 stealth design to Iran, etc. France exports its Lafayette class stealth frigate. Etc.

True enough. But most of these nations I'm talking about have Frightening economies anyway, and really don't need the money that badly.
30-11-2003, 20:22
Major problems with storefronts:
3) Many nations who run storefronts tend to be way too free with their top-tier military equipment. When's the last time you heard about the U.S. selling B-2 bombers or Trident SSBNs? When the U.S. does sell military equipment, they often sell a stripped-down "export variant" (i.e. the F-16/79, a version of the F-16 with deliberately limited strike capabilities and inferior payload/range performance).
Depends on how badly you want the money. Russia is selling its top T-80U, T-90, and BMP-3 models (brand new), selling nuclear reactors and the MiG I-2000 stealth design to Iran, etc. France exports its Lafayette class stealth frigate. Etc.

True enough. But most of these nations I'm talking about have Frightening economies anyway, and really don't need the money that badly.
France has a good economy and sells stealth frigates to Saudi Arabia, among others. France sold Leclerc tanks to the UAE. Brazil is considering buying the latest Mirage-2000 model from France. And thats just from France, Britain sold Challenger 2 tanks to Oman, and exported some naval tech to Australia.

I can dig up more examples if necessary, but i think you get the point.
Copiosa Scotia
30-11-2003, 22:37
Major problems with storefronts:
3) Many nations who run storefronts tend to be way too free with their top-tier military equipment. When's the last time you heard about the U.S. selling B-2 bombers or Trident SSBNs? When the U.S. does sell military equipment, they often sell a stripped-down "export variant" (i.e. the F-16/79, a version of the F-16 with deliberately limited strike capabilities and inferior payload/range performance).
Depends on how badly you want the money. Russia is selling its top T-80U, T-90, and BMP-3 models (brand new), selling nuclear reactors and the MiG I-2000 stealth design to Iran, etc. France exports its Lafayette class stealth frigate. Etc.

True enough. But most of these nations I'm talking about have Frightening economies anyway, and really don't need the money that badly.
France has a good economy and sells stealth frigates to Saudi Arabia, among others. France sold Leclerc tanks to the UAE. Brazil is considering buying the latest Mirage-2000 model from France. And thats just from France, Britain sold Challenger 2 tanks to Oman, and exported some naval tech to Australia.

I can dig up more examples if necessary, but i think you get the point.

Still, France's economy could hardly be considered Frightening. I do understand your point, and I know better than to argue that it doesn't happen at all. But from what I've seen, it tends to be the exception rather than the rule, and even when it happens, the nations making the sales are fairly careful about who they sell to.
01-12-2003, 03:05
There are no frightening economies IRL, the one that comes closest is Luxembourg. Sweden has a rather good economy as well, and exports its CV90 family of IFV's (Malaysia decided not to buy the CV90120, but Norway and FInland bought bought CV9030's Im pretty sure), as well as its SSM's (to Finland)
Fyreheart
01-12-2003, 14:32
AMF, this is simply beautiful. I havn't started a roleplay in II in ages for the simple fact that roleplaying here is getting to be atrocious. Well, and I havn't had much time as of late, but yeah. Good to see this as an announcement now, but sadly, we'll have to wait and see if anyone actually takes your knowledge and uses it. This is me hoping this is actually read and listened to.

*gets embarassed at the fact he used to contribute to the crappy roleplaying in II and shuts up*

Check out my newest RP if you've got the time. "Stolen Death." Hopefully you'll enjoy it.

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=99241

</cheap plug>

Isn't it sad that I still have no idea how to make the links say what I want them to instead of being the actual address?
02-12-2003, 16:35
They ought to create a separate forum for Storefronts. Then the II Forum would be all RP, and they could create a n00b forum, but that probably wouldn't help much.
_Taiwan
03-12-2003, 11:53
Most storefronts are unoriginal RL stuff. We should band together and annonce a boycott.
05-12-2003, 13:28
[OOC: you're a big dumb dumb stupid head.]

Ok, I can get along with these rules perfectly fine. =(^.^)=
Osutoria-Hangarii
06-12-2003, 08:46
True (again). Me and Pantera did some great RP here. . .[/quote]

"Pantera and I did some great RPing here."
Copiosa Scotia
06-12-2003, 17:16
There are no frightening economies IRL, the one that comes closest is Luxembourg. Sweden has a rather good economy as well, and exports its CV90 family of IFV's (Malaysia decided not to buy the CV90120, but Norway and FInland bought bought CV9030's Im pretty sure), as well as its SSM's (to Finland)

I think Frightening is generally considered equivalent to the U.S. economy during the tech boom.
06-12-2003, 18:00
Fyreheart if you want a link to say text instead of the url lay it out like this:

[code:1:8ff16aee58][url=http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2296409]Insert you text here[/url][/code:1:8ff16aee58]

Also you can just click the link that is highlighted in the following:

Options
HTML is OFF
BBCode is ON
Smilies are ON

its in the corner of the reply box box.
Virgin Atlantic
08-12-2003, 07:53
There are no frightening economies IRL, the one that comes closest is Luxembourg. Sweden has a rather good economy as well, and exports its CV90 family of IFV's (Malaysia decided not to buy the CV90120, but Norway and FInland bought bought CV9030's Im pretty sure), as well as its SSM's (to Finland)

I think Frightening is generally considered equivalent to the U.S. economy during the tech boom.

Well, we all know how that ended.

I think frightening is the SE Asian economies during the 70s. (It would be a measure of growth)
Automagfreek
09-12-2003, 23:44
True (again). Me and Pantera did some great RP here. . .

"Pantera and I did some great RPing here."

Wow....that had to be.....THE MOST USELESS POST EVER.

:roll:
Thunderstraat
11-12-2003, 19:17
You:
-do not have a name beginning with "of"
-do not have a partially capitalized name
-HAVE spammed, flamed, or otherwise idioted
-HAVE a stupid name

Brace for destruction.
_Taiwan
12-12-2003, 08:05
yeah ok, u have fun wit that... ANY ONE WANNA BUY SOME NUKES!??!?<====Great example of what not to post.

Firstly, RP a few nuclear tests.
Then announce an export drive, with more detial than that.
Froggyliciousness
23-12-2003, 20:02
Search my name and click on the "Bombers Over Fedral Union" one. That's a great example of a funny RP that turned semi-serious.
09-01-2004, 05:35
Whats up here?? :twisted:
11-01-2004, 05:54
We must be able to post international incidents. Without the postingm the World will fall into Anarchy!
22-01-2004, 17:09
...which would suit my puposes perfectly. :P
Aust
23-01-2004, 21:52
[quote="AutomagfreekSchool children taken hostage (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=96729)

[/quote]
OCC:Hey that's my thread, I'm famous, (P.S that thread is over theres a new one under the same name.
Aust
23-01-2004, 21:53
[quote="AutomagfreekSchool children taken hostage (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=96729)

[/quote]
OCC:Hey that's my thread, I'm famous, (P.S that thread is over theres a new one under the same name.
24-01-2004, 13:17
Well it sounds like your prepared
29-01-2004, 18:58
I am sick of spammers just saying whatever they damn well like such as i am doing right now. :P
Aust
01-02-2004, 14:22
I am sick of spammers just saying whatever they damn well like such as i am doing right now. :P
.....? going where?,
OCC: You've got 2 posts.
04-02-2004, 17:50
how can i play this game?
Automagfreek
04-02-2004, 18:48
how can i play this game?

Read this: http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=29774
The Trojan Empire
07-02-2004, 20:16
I am sick of spammers just saying whatever they damn well like such as i am doing right now. :P
.....? going where?,
OCC: You've got 2 posts.

What's OCC?
Witzgall
08-02-2004, 02:41
OOC is Out Of Character

Like...instead of Role Playing a commander of your nation, your just yourself.
16-02-2004, 10:47
U are a smelly boy who doesn't no what you are on about!
Automagfreek
16-02-2004, 17:12
U are a smelly boy who doesn't no what you are on about!

Please don't spam this thread.
Kryozerkia
18-02-2004, 08:57
Is there a way to make one of the things that one doesn't post here, a random n00b started war, which has no point?!
18-02-2004, 09:42
hi
21-02-2004, 15:34
HI ya all!!!
Darcul
29-02-2004, 06:06
I'm wondering does your nation have any affect in the RPs. I don't get this younger and older thing. Suposedly do I have to build up my nation in this forum instead of outside it. If I reside in the Military region can I ask them for nukes so I can use them in forum wars. Or does this work totally differently.
Talabheim
29-02-2004, 06:19
In I.I., can you post a topic about an industry, like gambling?
Hainan
05-03-2004, 01:29
I'm wondering does your nation have any affect in the RPs. I don't get this younger and older thing. Suposedly do I have to build up my nation in this forum instead of outside it. If I reside in the Military region can I ask them for nukes so I can use them in forum wars. Or does this work totally differently.

You're nation doesnt really get 'affected' by anything from RP'ing. Your population stays the same. Older nations will almost always have the advantage of having more people to 'invade' your nation, and can definitely have an advantage with intimidation. It is a widely accepted guideline that younger nations do not get nukes until they are a month old, although, even then, some nations still won't like it. I'd suggest maybe laying low for the first month or so, observing RP's by other nations until you're sure you've got it down. I'd suggest that you read some of the stickies. They may explain things better. With your military, you purchase things from 'storefronts' by other nations. First, find a GDP calculator to find out how much money you can spend on your military. I think they are in a sticky in the Technical Forum. Check Scolo's sticky list.
_Taiwan
08-03-2004, 04:00
In I.I., can you post a topic about an industry, like gambling?

Yeah.
20-03-2004, 03:16
What is an OOC?
_Taiwan
20-03-2004, 03:49
What is an OOC?

Out of Character
20-03-2004, 14:55
Ok, thanks. I thought it was Out of Context :D
Alewares
21-03-2004, 03:02
Hey look, its my puppet. :)
Philopolis
29-03-2004, 08:20
just a little suggestion

you should add that introductions and story rps go in NS
I think that's right...
27-04-2004, 19:44
war with Dra-pol
Dra-pol
29-04-2004, 10:54
war with Dra-pol

Eh... yes, the Korean war, or, er, unification is an international incident...uhm...well noticed!

I think.

(Unless you're trying to declare war on Dra-pol, in which case get in line and we'll kill you to a man next week or something.)
Kaufmanstad
13-05-2004, 03:55
My thread, Colonization - 1612, is missing. Does anybody know where it went?
Anime-Otakus
17-05-2004, 11:42
Can I post abou tthe start of a development of a new futuretech weapon?
Automagfreek
25-05-2004, 03:34
Can I post abou tthe start of a development of a new futuretech weapon?

Of course, as long as it isn't a godmod.
Anime-Otakus
25-05-2004, 11:59
Gundams, perhaps?
Automagfreek
28-05-2004, 03:11
A few nations use them, so yes.
Laurels
02-06-2004, 05:11
My fellow states, I am currently pursuing an aggressive campaign to stomp out the horrors of dictatorship in the Republic of Incisor by establishing a strong cener-left coalition. I have opened the diplomatic channels with Incisor and I am pursuing United Nations assisstance in this time of great urgency.

Together, the liberal world can finally send a message to the dictators that they will no longer be tolerated. That our ideals are indeed the moral choice and that they will never again threaten the stability and safety of the free world.

Please join me in this pursuit!
Automagfreek
02-06-2004, 05:14
OOC: You're posting this in a thread where the author's nation is a dictatorship. :twisted:
Laurels
02-06-2004, 05:41
My fellow world leaders, I come before you at a moment of significant tumult in world affairs. The threat of aggressive, dictatorial regimes hangs over us more and more with each passing moment, and the time for a final stand has, I believe, come!

I am currently pursuing an aggressive campaign to stomp out the horrors of dictatorship in the Republic of Incisor by establishing a strong cener-left coalition. I have opened the diplomatic channels with Incisor and I am pursuing United Nations assisstance in this time of great urgency.

Together, the liberal world can finally send a message to the dictators that they will no longer be tolerated. That our ideals are indeed the moral choice and that they will never again threaten the stability and safety of the free world.
Automagfreek
02-06-2004, 06:17
Stop ad spamming, you've already been reported.
Sarzonia
04-06-2004, 15:20
You're nation doesnt really get 'affected' by anything from RP'ing. Your population stays the same. Older nations will almost always have the advantage of having more people to 'invade' your nation, and can definitely have an advantage with intimidation. It is a widely accepted guideline that younger nations do not get nukes until they are a month old, although, even then, some nations still won't like it. I'd suggest maybe laying low for the first month or so, observing RP's by other nations until you're sure you've got it down. I'd suggest that you read some of the stickies. They may explain things better. With your military, you purchase things from 'storefronts' by other nations. First, find a GDP calculator to find out how much money you can spend on your military. I think they are in a sticky in the Technical Forum. Check Scolo's sticky list.

[OOC: I wouldn't be totally married to one month or 100 million people, but that's a good general rule of thumb. If you pick up the roleplaying in NS quickly, you may be able to get involved on a limited basis in roleplays even before reaching 100 million. Though I wouldn't buy nukes or build them until you've been around for a while.

I felt like I got a pretty decent feel for the roleplay fairly early, though some of the details took a little longer. I decided to make most of my roleplays purchases from military storefronts or statements in other roleplays or character development posts or threads, but didn't get involved in my first war until about a month and a half in. Those helped me get into the mode of NS roleplay. Plus, learn who not to mess with *cough* AMF *cough*.]
Sarzonia
04-06-2004, 15:28
I know this is very off topic...but YAY! It's an announcement now!!!!

[OOC: As I said before in a TG to you, this is an INVALUABLE guide for a beginning RPer. In fact, it's a great tool even for a more experienced player.]
GMCSierra
10-06-2004, 14:40
i think that our right of FREEDOM OF SPEECH is limited here.
BIOS and DOS
11-06-2004, 10:12
I have to say I agree with you entirely on that one there

I don't have a clur about any of this, but i'm gonna agree with you anyway
The Atheists Reality
11-06-2004, 10:25
i think that our right of FREEDOM OF SPEECH is limited here.

wth are you talking about? there never was free speech on this site
Automagfreek
11-06-2004, 18:38
i think that our right of FREEDOM OF SPEECH is limited here.

This is a privatly owned site that's accessed to people around the globe. You have no rights here whatsoever.

Besides, a great deal of players on this site aren't Americans.
Sarzonia
11-06-2004, 19:15
i think that our right of FREEDOM OF SPEECH is limited here.

This is a privatly owned site that's accessed to people around the globe. You have no rights here whatsoever.

Besides, a great deal of players on this site aren't Americans.

In addition, even if the entire lot of NS were located in the U.S., the First Amendment wouldn't hold. As Automagfreek said, this is a privately-owned site and as such, the people who run it have the right to set certain ground rules. On many message boards, there are codes of conduct that you either must agree to explicitly or you agree to them IMPLICITLY by posting there. The First Amendment doesn't give you the right to violate those by posting tripe.
Evil scientific genii
22-06-2004, 16:43
Storefronts??? Is that like playing shop? We all ought to get out more people! :?
Automagfreek
22-06-2004, 16:58
It's a game. Either play it, or don't. But don't be rude and insult those that enjoy this game.
Sarzonia
23-06-2004, 01:45
Storefronts??? Is that like playing shop? We all ought to get out more people! :?

And you wasted a few minutes out of your day to sign up for NationStates, create a "country" and log onto the message board to post that?

Sounds like the pot calling the kettle black to me. :roll:
Hogsweat
31-07-2004, 21:27
Note added by TJHairball: In addition, the mods do have free license to keep very poor quality RP out of II - rampant violation of RP ettiquette does not belong in II. See the other stickies for details on this.


Odd. I've never seen that happen, and I've seen plenty of crappy RP#s.
Automagfreek
01-08-2004, 09:10
Odd. I've never seen that happen, and I've seen plenty of crappy RP#s.


Happens quite frequently actually.
IDF
03-08-2004, 03:13
Happens quite frequently actually.
just curious, when did it happen? I want to know. (then why did FWS's crud remain)
Automagfreek
03-08-2004, 03:35
I've seen quite a few threads that turn into OOC chatter moved to NS. Depends on when the mods have time to drop in on II really.
Dra-pol
07-08-2004, 16:06
Though it may be a little off-topic, I can't help expressing my -all be it mild- irritation at the general implication that the US is the only place that (supposedly) enjoys the right to free speech (even though it has more citizen spies than any developed nation since East Germany, asks immigrants if they have ever sympathised with a communist party, and frequently vanishes people), or perhaps invented the concept. America's contribution to human, civil, and political rights in human history has been relatively minor.

Anyhoo, I think II gets a pretty unfair weight of criticism. There's always been a fair bit of good RP going on here, it's just that it's not always carried out by the 3bln+ (at time of writing) nations that have widely recognised reputations. If people only stopped replying to the crap and read threads by less familiar authors it might be realised that there's a lot to get into on II.

Man, it's warm here. I have to go die, now.
Grenval
11-08-2004, 21:53
Perhaps what we need is another forum area for storefronts and new weaponry announcements and the like.
Psov
28-08-2004, 23:47
Can i Post recruitment in International Incidents?
Antonos
30-08-2004, 16:28
Can i Post recruitment in International Incidents?

I think that's supposed to go in Gameplay (assuming you mean recruiting for regional members).

Some people may not take kindly to TGs and consider someone recruiting them to be spam. I personally don't (I usually ignore them unless there's some thought put into the telegram), but others have that I've seen.

If you're taking about an alliance that isn't a region, that's a different story.
Serpania
30-08-2004, 19:34
Is this the right forum for posting my country's military profile? If not, what is?
Sarzonia
30-08-2004, 20:03
Is this the right forum for posting my country's military profile? If not, what is?

It is. It's probably best to make it an OOC post or a Secret IC post because most countries don't go advertising their military strength, or if they do, they generally report inaccurate numbers to create a false sense of security.
Psov
30-08-2004, 22:05
I think that's supposed to go in Gameplay (assuming you mean recruiting for regional members).

Some people may not take kindly to TGs and consider someone recruiting them to be spam. I personally don't (I usually ignore them unless there's some thought put into the telegram), but others have that I've seen.

If you're taking about an alliance that isn't a region, that's a different story.


Thank You
Automagfreek
16-09-2004, 17:35
Awww.....I lost my sticky.....
Sarzonia
16-09-2004, 17:38
Awww.....I lost my sticky.....

Shucks... it went from Announcement on the old boards to Sticky to *poof*!
:(

At least it lives on in another thread as a reference tool. :)
Euroslavia
16-09-2004, 17:56
that's for sure.

*wink*
Holy panooly
16-09-2004, 18:04
shame this is no longer a sticky
Sarzonia
02-03-2005, 18:03
I'm with ya HP. Reading this thread was a HUGE help to me as a beginning RPer way back in the day. Can you believe it was almost a year ago when I was new to NS? :eek:
Automagfreek
02-03-2005, 20:29
Wow, it's been awhile since I've seen this thread! Looks like I need to do some updating, the example links are still from the pre-Jolt era.
Hogsweat
02-03-2005, 22:59
Aye, it's all unjolted. Great thread though.
Neo Imperial Japan
28-02-2006, 00:42
I was wondering.... Is Giant Monster thread allowed as well

For example:

Godzilla attacks (Nation.) or something like that.
Velkya
28-02-2006, 00:49
As long as Godzilla isn't telling people to join a region or trying to strike up a debate about abortion, he can come to II.
Neo Imperial Japan
28-02-2006, 01:06
As long as Godzilla isn't telling people to join a region or trying to strike up a debate about abortion, he can come to II.

LMAO.... alright cool.
Willink
28-02-2006, 01:14
Most storefronts are unoriginal RL stuff. We should band together and annonce a boycott.


Yes, but this alienates all the Storefronts with orginial products, dosn't it ?
Velkya
28-02-2006, 01:18
Yes, but this alienates all the Storefronts with orginial products, dosn't it ?

Nah, Kriegzimmer will continue to do business until the end of time.