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Teacher Arrested for Preaching

24-11-2003, 23:53
A teacher by the name of Johann Krueger was arrested this morning, when a student came home and told his parents that Krueger had spent the entire class preaching about god and how he will enlighten their life, et cetera. When the parent contacted school officials, they interviewed several students, and confirmed the story. Police then arrested the teacher, and he is now being charged with violation of the 'Separation of Church and State' laws, the 'Child Abuse' laws, and 'Child Endangerment' laws.
Galdania
25-11-2003, 00:02
We fully support the actions taken by police.
CorpSac
25-11-2003, 00:30
we fully surport u in ur attions. god haha thats the funnyest thing i ever heard
Kurlej
25-11-2003, 00:35
We too fully support your actions. No one has a right to force someone's religion onto another.
25-11-2003, 01:03
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25-11-2003, 01:12
child abuse and child endangerment?????????????? what the crap is that about?????
CorpSac
25-11-2003, 01:22
who know and who cares then man tryed to force this silly thing of god on ur children, thats abuse and endagerment to me


CorpSac
25-11-2003, 01:35
"What kind of nonsense is this? It's the liberty of the Attican people that is being abused and endangered, not that child."
--Anonymous official, Automastan Bureau of Justice

Official Government Press Release
The MSRA condems the actions taken against Mr. Krueger. His arrest, and the charges brought against him, are portents of a serious human rights violation, one which the MSRA will not allow to happen. As the quoted government official said, the child was neither abused nor endangered by Mr. Krueger's statement of faith, but the rights of the Attican people. We of the Automite government strongly urge the Attican officials to release Mr. Krueger, or we will have no choice but to take diplomatic and economic action against the empire.

Concerning the responses from the CorpSac government: Why don't you try being a little more open-minded? Surely you must realize that you are not necessarily right, nor do you need to act like you do. Further relations with CorpSac have ceased as of now.
Froggyliciousness
25-11-2003, 01:39
We fully support this measure. These religious wackos don't need to be preaching in schools. Let the kids decide what kind of religion they want to follow, if any.
25-11-2003, 01:49
The Kaiser has issued his statement on the accused.

"
Johann Krueger, currently an inmate at Attica City Maximum Security Penetentiary Complex, shall be prosecuted to the state's full ability.
"
ISAF
25-11-2003, 01:54
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ISAF
25-11-2003, 01:54
From: North Point, ISAF.
To: Attican Empire

We support you actions, and justify them for those who do not understand "Child Endangerment" and "Seperation Of Church and State" laws:

Church and state laws were established so that there would be no dedicated religion for said country. The reasoning for this is that, should there be a "national religion", there would be enormous amounts of bigotry and "Equal Opportunity Employer" would be an obsolete statement. It would not be unlike what is currently happening in Baghdad. Because Iraq has a nationwide religion, any conflicting religion would be deemed an "inferior religion", and said person would be hard pressed to get a job, buy a car, etc.

This particular issue falls under child endangerment because there may be statements that the parents of a particular child may not agree with. It is considered a felony (and rightly so) to impress a religion upon a young and developing mind without a parent's consent. It, while this may be a radical statement, may be called a lesser form of brainwashing. On top of that, it seems to have begun to interfere with the children's education.

If anyone decales war, or attempts to break Mr. Johann Krueger from prison, I will be more than happy to come to your defense.
Tairawhiti
25-11-2003, 01:59
In reguards to the so called "Krueger incident", the Tairawhiti Star newspaper ran this in the editorial today

"Shoot the preaching bastard!
- Ryan Deaker, editor

The attican empire can be demonstrated as an enlightened place after it's actions in curtailing the insidious threat of monotheistic teaching to the impressionable young - Though in the opinions of this editor, the Atticans do not go far enough in their actions and (as per the word of the God Krueger preaches about) should not tolerate him to live...."

Our leader was unable to publicly comment on the actions of another nation, but is said to have hummed approvingly at the comments in this editorial while reading it over his CLOACA POPS (TM)* breakfast



*It's the shit!
Edolia
25-11-2003, 02:02
"We endorse this measure fully and congratulate the people of the Attican Empire for cracking down on the fools who seek to preach their lies in places of learning. However, we hope that the relatively minor crime will not result in a disproportionate penalty. May I suggest that the offender pay a fine, engage in community service -perhaps working at an abortion clinic- and be forced to listen to heavy metal music with lots of swear words?"
Matthew von Pickett
Minister for Foreign Affairs
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Grant Park
25-11-2003, 02:06
If your government wishes to remove this threat, and if Johann Krueger and his family are willing to live in exile, you may deport him to our nation in the Apolyton region.

Of course he wouldn't be certified to teach in public schools, but I'm sure he can get a job rehabilitating the child gambing addicts in one of our lavish casinos.
25-11-2003, 02:15
Johann Krüger has been charged guilty of all counts, and will spend 15 years in prison, and, when he is released, 10,000 hours community service.
25-11-2003, 02:19
The nation of Saladora supports the actions of Attican police forces. We are also a state that believes in seperating Church and State.


International Relations Minister, Avery Ladannen
Democratic Republic of Saladora
25-11-2003, 02:19
The Free Republic of Thirtycaliber expresses its sympathy for Mr. Krueger, and formally offers him political asylum should the Attican regime seek to enforce its draconian laws against him. It was not mentioned in the official Attican press release whether this was a public or private school; if the latter case was true, this would be a clear cut instance of the final stages of tyranny. We also find it quite amusing that this kind of speech is considered 'abuse'.

We also suggest that the Edolian Minister of Foreign Affairs brush up in his knowledge of contemporary music, as rap tends to contain a great deal more material that a devout person would find offensive than heavy metal. We also find his suggestion of forcing this poor soul to assist in the slaughter of defenseless children to be particularly appauling, and I would suggest that it would be a natural suggestion for a citizen of such a barbaric and primitive culture as that of Edolia.

John C.G. Schnee
Secretary of State
Free Republic of Thirtycaliber
25-11-2003, 02:20
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25-11-2003, 02:25
Seems a bit much, but whatever floats your boat, its your country.
Tairawhiti
25-11-2003, 02:31
***Breaking news over the Tairawhiti radio networks

After the announcement of the Attican sentencing in the "Krueger incident", small scale demonstrations about law reforms and sentencing reviews were "supressed" in the Tairawhiti capital. Fortunately no peace officials were harmed and the sanitation squad was dispatched immediately to clean up. All citizens are being made content as we speak.


- This report is being brought to you by PAPERCLIPS (TM), keep it together man!
Telliria
25-11-2003, 02:52
"They aim for freedom and instead recieve tyrany."
1st Prince Vahn Winfield

"They make me sick!"
Emperor Teros II

"Sound like a bunch of commie bastards to me...."
Henery Thorns, Elite Gaurd

"Why not just ban religion?!"
2nd Prince Alex Winfield

"Where are the civil rights?!"
Alexandra Telith, Defender

"It'll all come back and hit the hard. Countries that spat in gods' face ended up paying for it. Of course this all started in the late 19th century with Germany, France, and a lot of other European nations. Then war hit. France was horribly mutilated after the fighting, Germany was defeated and left with horrible terms, and the rest of Europe ravaged. Russia tried it next, and well, we all know how that went....."
3rd Princess Mya Winfield

Telliria is disgusted by your actions. This man does not deserve prison at all. He has his rights to tell people of god, as it is put in by his religion. You have stripped him of his natural rights, and have gone into being an extremist. This thing happens all time in most places, and the most they get is a warning or a short supension!

Tellirian Emperor Teros II has just set laws that prevent the teachers from being arrested for religious teaches, but does allow for a short supension, with pay, if it is cutting in for whole class periods.
Telliria
25-11-2003, 02:52
"They aim for freedom and instead recieve tyrany."
1st Prince Vahn Winfield

"They make me sick!"
Emperor Teros II

"Sound like a bunch of commie bastards to me...."
Henery Thorns, Elite Gaurd

"Why not just ban religion?!"
2nd Prince Alex Winfield

"Where are the civil rights?!"
Alexandra Telith, Defender

"It'll all come back and hit the hard. Countries that spat in gods' face ended up paying for it. Of course this all started in the late 19th century with Germany, France, and a lot of other European nations. Then war hit. France was horribly mutilated after the fighting, Germany was defeated and left with horrible terms, and the rest of Europe ravaged. Russia tried it next, and well, we all know how that went....."
3rd Princess Mya Winfield

Telliria is disgusted by your actions. This man does not deserve prison at all. He has his rights to tell people of god, as it is put in by his religion. You have stripped him of his natural rights, and have gone into being an extremist. This thing happens all time in most places, and the most they get is a warning or a short supension!

Tellirian Emperor Teros II has just set laws that prevent the teachers from being arrested for religious teaches, but does allow for a short supension, with pay, if it is cutting in for whole class periods.
25-11-2003, 03:03
The nation of Scaraba decrys the actions of Mr. Krueger, and believes that religion has no place within public institutions, with the exception of the Famous trademarked pseudofaith the CHURCH OF THE SUBGENIUS, official faith of the Chosen Four and the 2004 Choslympics. Congratulations on the successful "re-education" of your protesters as well. PRABOB!
25-11-2003, 03:03
Kaiser Michael Kuklinski V: "Foolish Tellirians, always putting their faith into an imaginary being."
Prinz Otto Kuklinski: "Indeed."
Kaiser Michael Kuklinski V: "Zara, prepare an official reply to the Tellirian message."
Zara: "Yes sir."

Official Reply:

Attica is disgusted by your actions. The men who impose their religion on others, without consent, deserve to be brutalized. Be thankful we did not execute the man, considering what he was convicted of. Your definition of natural rights forgets one thing, one may NOT force his religion onto another. Your set of laws only stagnate the progress that governments have made from being theological monarchies, and you should be ashamed.
ISAF
25-11-2003, 03:12
What you people don't understand it that this man is responsible for the development of young minds. This man isn't paid by the government to give his opinion on god. He may have the right to preach, but the government also has the right to fire him.
25-11-2003, 03:17
In somewhat related news, the latest Census shows that only .1% of the Attican Population is religious. Censusers estimate that in 10 years, the population will be entirely atheist...
25-11-2003, 03:19
It was never stated that this man was paid by the government to do anything; we are left in the dark as to whether this was a public or private school, and have no insight as to whether both exist in Attica. And he wasn't just fired (which would have been just fine & dandy), but rather imprisoned for a lengthy term in unknown conditions and, after the completion of his imprisonment, forced to spend about 5 years in 'community service', most likely in a labor or concentration camp. The Free Republic of Thirtycaliber righteously decries that the government of Attica is tyrannical and mad, and predicts that their actions will sooner or later come back to smack them in the rear.

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John C.G. Scnhee
Secretary of State
Free Republic of Thirtycaliber
imported_BACBI
25-11-2003, 03:21
Were any penquins injured or killed in the proceeding occorance?
ISAF
25-11-2003, 03:21
Yee haw! Power to the Atticans! Whoop Whoop! 10 free IBEX II AAVs for Attica!

(for information: www.freewebs.com/bluebomber )
25-11-2003, 03:34
I would like to remind those among us that have been carping about separation of church and state and freedom from religion that Attica, according to the information available to all of us, is in fact a communist dictatorship, and it is as such highly doubtful that citizens have any real freedoms at all. Furthermore, given that censi are notoriously inaccurate, and in this case moreso due to the incentive citizens have to lie to avoid the obvious oppression that befells the religious, we highly doubt that only .1% of your population is religious. Still further, I personally doubt that you will ever truly stamp out religion, because you have not been seen to have exiled religious citizens en masse, which historically the only effective method of suppressing religion.

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John C.G. Scnhee
Secretary of State
Free Republic of Thirtycaliber
25-11-2003, 03:41
We are not a communist dictatorship, we are a Socialist Monarchy.

The Kuklinski/Petinski line goes back hundreds of years.

Attican Citizens enjoy many civil comforts, but in exchange, lose political freedoms. One thing the government DOES take a stand on, however, is religion. Religion has never been a large part of Attican culture, the first time religion was ever brought into Attica was when the Roman Empire invaded thousands of years ago, and became a Christian Empire. They were sooner or later driven out. Any religious people in Attica are either immigrants or descendants of those people.

And there are no private schools in Attica, only very well funded public schools. There is no oppression against religious people. Several members of the royal family are devout catholics. I mean, just look at Attica City!

-Camera Pans to a beautiful city vista, with towering glass skyscrapers, but, at the same time, green parks on the floor, with happy people skipping about.-
25-11-2003, 03:51
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25-11-2003, 03:58
OOC:

According to your nation descriptor, you are a Father Knows Best State, complete with a "mostly benevolent dictoator". However,since there is no real monarchy nation descriptor, I can see that this is an acceptable and very slight deviation for RP purposes. :D

I'm not going to debate socialism vs. communism here; that would devolve into a thread hijacking and a bitchfest. You can have your way. :cry:

IC:

While you decry that you do not oppress the religious, your words are hollow and do not ring true. Your statements contradict your actions. I suppose that 15 years of confinement plus 5 years of slavery is par for the course in Attica when it comes to punishment for talking to 20 kids for 40 minutes?

If your royal family is mostly Roman Catholic, I don't see why your government wants to see faith die in your nation.

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John C.G. Scnhee
Secretary of State
Free Republic of Thirtycaliber
25-11-2003, 04:04
One class is two hours.

I didn't say most of my royal family was Catholic, I said members of it ARE Catholic.

You are free to execute any laws you feel just, just as we are. We will NOT tolerate religious proliferation via public systems. Period.
25-11-2003, 04:12
In response to your violation of human rights, the Canales Holy Empire has placed an economic sanctions.
Until this innocent man, is released, all Canales corporations and other businesses are banned from business in Attican Empire.
Further, all travel to and from Attican Empire are banned.
All deals with the Attican government or any of their citizens is now illegal and punishable by death. (As such dealings now constitute treason a capital offense.)
All Attican citizens have been notified that they have 48 hours to leave the Empire. Further, the Emperor has recalled the Canales ambassador to Attican Empire and all diplomatic personnel are being withdrawn.
Further, the foriegn Ministry has ordered the Attican ambassador to the Holy Empire of Canales 5 hours to leave the Holy Empire. Again, it is official, the Attican ambassador and diplomatic staff are being expelled from the Empire.
The Emperor has refused to rule the use of force to ensure the ambassador leaves.
In a further move, the Emperor officially froze all Attican financial assets within the Empire and has asked allied and neighboring nations to do the same.
25-11-2003, 04:16
Attica may enact and enforce as many tyrannical laws as its rulers deem necessary, as is its right as a sovereign nation.

Thirtycaliber may decry this tyranny and opression to the world, as is its right as a sovereign nation.

I don't see where there's room for discussion.

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John C.G. Scnhee
Secretary of State
Free Republic of Thirtycaliber
25-11-2003, 04:24
In response to the threatening actions of Canales, the Kaiser is outraged. All trade with the Canales 'Holy' Empire is ceased. Any Attikisch Motorwerke vehicles in Canales HE are having their motors remotely disabled immediately. The Kaiser also no longer officially recognizes the Emperor of the Canales as the ruler of the nation. The second battlegroup is being deployed right outside of Canaleian National Waters. With this battlegroup is a troop transport carrying 100 marines.

Also, because air and sea traffic FROM Attica to The Canales has been ceased, their ambassador and diplomatic personell are rather stuck in Attica.
25-11-2003, 04:25
Atticans in Canales have been seized and arrested for arrested for blasephemously denouncing his holiness, Emperor Canales.
They will now face the death penalty now that Attica's ambassador has been expelled. Leaving them with no counsel from their native government.
A total 5 Atticans were involved.
The military is currently involved in seizing all property owned by Atticans in Canales. The property will soon be handed over to the Catholic Church to compensate them for the inhumane arrest of the preacher in Attica.
25-11-2003, 04:28
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25-11-2003, 04:29
In response to the threatening actions of Canales, the Kaiser is outraged. All trade with the Canales 'Holy' Empire is ceased. Any Attikisch Motorwerke vehicles in Canales HE are having their motors remotely disabled immediately. The Kaiser also no longer officially recognizes the Emperor of the Canales as the ruler of the nation. The second battlegroup is being deployed right outside of Canaleian National Waters. With this battlegroup is a troop transport carrying 100 marines.
OOC: See your telegrams.

IC: The Canales Holy Empire does not recognize the current government of Attica. Again, all Attican assets inside Canales have been seized.
While there are sanctions in place and the two nations in place, and despite Attica's hostile movement of a naval battlegroup outside of Canalian waters is disturbing, Canales officials believe that war is highly unlikely.
A nuclear submarine has been dispatched, however, to keep tabs on Attican fleet who will remain unmolested as long they remain in international waters.
25-11-2003, 04:29
The Kaiser has been further outraged. His Generelstab urges him to declare war on this 'Holy Empire'.

5 minutes pass.

From: Attican Foreign Ministry, Attica City
To: Rogue Emperor Canales

Kaiser Michael Kuklinski V, Koenig von Atiska, und Kaiser aus Attika, is issuing this ultimatum to The Canales.

If Attican hostages are not released to Attican custody within 5 hours (NS time. RL time, your next post), the Empire will have no choice but to declare war.

IC:

Aircraft are being prepared for the possible upcoming conflict. Troops are on standby.

OOC: You are aware my multiple anti-submarine ships with the battlegroup will have already detected your sub, yes?
Omz222
25-11-2003, 04:33
While we find the action taken by Attican Empire as a bit "unfit", we do note that Attican Empire may enforce its own laws inside its nation, and maintain the status of as a sovereign nation. Any attack on Attican Empire for this, which also costs lives of the civilians, is a much larger case than this mere problem. We encourage nations to find a peaceful ways to resolve the problem. War will only grow this problem, not control.

--Foreign Affairs Ministry
25-11-2003, 04:37
OOC: You're both aware that the Attican fleet can't instantly and magically warp from Attica to the Canalesian coast? Correct?

It would probably help both of you if Attica posted the makeup of his battle group, also.

If either of you are interested in a mediator, I'm all ears as far as TGs go.
25-11-2003, 04:39
While we find the action taken by Attican Empire as a bit "unfit", we do note that Attican Empire may enforce its own laws inside its nation, and maintain the status of as a sovereign nation. Any attack on Attican Empire for this, which also costs lives of the civilians, is a much larger case than this. We encourage nations to find a peaceful ways to get out of the problem. War will only grow this problem, not control.

--Foreign Affairs Ministry
The Canales Empire is on stand down, our forces have not mobilized.
However, it is Attica who threatening war. It is Attica who is threatening military force to violate the soverignty of Canales.
We intend that their forces detect our sub as we ordered it make sure they could see it. Our intention is not combat but surveillance to determine Attica's intentions for being just outside our territorial waters.
If we wanted to attack them, we have sent more than just a small sub.
The Emperor finds it unfortunate that Attica responds to events in other nations by threatening all out war.
The 5 Atticans in question, cannot be released until after their trials.
However, due to the tenseness of the situation and the suddeness of their loss of diplomatic representation, the Emperor will Attica to send attorneys to represent them in a Canales court of law.
25-11-2003, 04:40
OOC: You're both aware that the Attican fleet can't instantly and magically warp from Attica to the Canalesian coast? Correct?

It would probably help both of you if Attica posted the makeup of his battle group, also.

If either of you are interested in a mediator, I'm all ears as far as TGs go.

We do not believe this will come to war. Attica would not attack a nation without military provocation.
25-11-2003, 04:41
OOC: Yes, I am aware, but if he has a sub there, my fleet will know.

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Omz222
25-11-2003, 04:42
While we find the action taken by Attican Empire as a bit "unfit", we do note that Attican Empire may enforce its own laws inside its nation, and maintain the status of as a sovereign nation. Any attack on Attican Empire for this, which also costs lives of the civilians, is a much larger case than this. We encourage nations to find a peaceful ways to get out of the problem. War will only grow this problem, not control.

--Foreign Affairs Ministry
The Canales Empire is on stand down, our forces have not mobilized.
However, it is Attica who threatening war. It is Attica who is threatening military force to violate the soverignty of Canales.


We do note that you triggered a war by arresting civilian hostages, which is a balant violation of human rights. We see this action as much much more worse than what teh Attican Empire did.

Please, stand down. You are just as bad as a warmongerer if you let this continue. Do not continue this foolish act, which will only find yourself having other lives lost.
25-11-2003, 04:54
While we find the action taken by Attican Empire as a bit "unfit", we do note that Attican Empire may enforce its own laws inside its nation, and maintain the status of as a sovereign nation. Any attack on Attican Empire for this, which also costs lives of the civilians, is a much larger case than this. We encourage nations to find a peaceful ways to get out of the problem. War will only grow this problem, not control.

--Foreign Affairs Ministry
The Canales Empire is on stand down, our forces have not mobilized.
However, it is Attica who threatening war. It is Attica who is threatening military force to violate the soverignty of Canales.


We do note that you triggered a war by arresting civilian hostages, which is a balant violation of human rights. We see this action as much much more worse than what teh Attican Empire did.

Please, stand down. You are just as bad as a warmongerer if you let this continue. Do not continue this foolish act, which will only find yourself having other lives lost.
These civilians are foreigners who have attempted to cause sabotage in the Empire. As such, they must face trial under Canales law in Canales civilian courts of law. Arresting civilians for breaking laws is not a human rights violation. But arresting them for espousing their beliefs through their human right of free speech is.
In Canales, people are free to read and preach from the Bible on public school property. Because Canales' people have religious freedom while those in Attica do not.

Stand down, we are not the ones arming to the teeth and threatening to start war. We are merely refusing trade and relations with a nation that has declared war on all christians.
25-11-2003, 04:58
OOC: We aren't arming to the teeth, we have BEEN armed to the teeth.
Whittier
25-11-2003, 04:59
Official notice to all nations threatening or planning military operations against Canales.
Since Canales is located in the San Gabriel Valley, Canales falls under the Whittier sphere of influence.
Any military assualt on or invasion of Canales, will be a violation of our sphere of influence. Whittier is mobilizing military forces and will not allow an invasion of the region.
Though, we note the hypocrisy of Canalesian actions. We will not allow outsiders to step foot in the SGV.
Whittier
25-11-2003, 05:00
OOC: We aren't arming to the teeth, we have BEEN armed to the teeth.
But you are threatening to attack him. Do you deny that?
25-11-2003, 05:10
I condemn the actions of both Attica and Canales.
25-11-2003, 05:14
OOC: I am threatening to defend my citizens.
Edolia
25-11-2003, 12:41
"The aggresive actions taken by Canales have not gone unnoticed in Edolia. If necessary, we will join with the Atticans to protect their nation and their people. Unity in Socialism, comrades!"
Matthew von Pickett
Minister for Foreign Affairs
http://www.angelfire.com/ak5/batenoah/arnoldsch1.jpg
25-11-2003, 13:20
On 6:00AM PRT, the Attican Empire declared war on Canales, for acts of terrorism, supporting terrorism, and violation of national sovereignty.

"We gave them a chance to return our citizens, now we are going to get them back."

OOC:

There is a BIG difference. Religious Freedom guarantees that someone will be able to -PRACTICE- their own religion. Practicing it in a PUBLIC area means that people around you hear it, and therefore you are imposing it on them. And since when does a preacher have the right to teach young children a religion with OR without the consent of his parents?

Also, being arrested for denouncing your church would be considered an act against freedom of religion, yes?
Crookfur
25-11-2003, 18:32
>>>Scene: In listovia/FPC/Attican border regions

Two Crookfur engineers were on thier way to the mess tent after a hard day of EOD work.

"So Jim, " voices the larger of the two, "what do you think about this whole Attican thing?"

"Ah well the bloody hethans always like to make a stink when ever anyone says anything, i just hope that if they go to war we don't have to do the job of clearing up after them, thier arty rounds are a total pain in the arse to deal with!"

"Too right on that one Jim, i really don't understand why so many failed to go off, i suspect soem rahter shoddy workmanship myself."

"You may be right Campbell but at least we don't have to deal with thier annoying submuntion rounds like D company."


OOC: all views mentioned are entirely belonging to thier originators and do not nessicarily represent the views of the Crookfur govenrment.

On the matter of nation descriptors, i feel that while useful they can be a bit unpredicatble in thier changes so a good deal of leway is required on your nation's RP governemnt (ie mine keeps swinging from new york times democracy to democratic socialists so i interpret this as being my 2 main political parties but RP wise crookfur tends to keep to it's centerist/british identity).
The Secular Resistance
25-11-2003, 18:58
We're pleased that nations do more to stop religious missionary.
25-11-2003, 22:48
The Canalian sub, not firing on the Attican Battlegroup, is an easy target. Both Seebengels fire anti-submarine torpedoes at the sub. On the surface, the battle group begins firing Tomahawk's at key positions in Canales.

In Attica, 300 AWR-120s are taking off, en route to Canales to destroy any airpower they might have, and 100 HB-100s (heavy bombers) are taking off to pound ground targets.
Telliria
25-11-2003, 23:51
Since it is forcing your religion upon someone to preach it in a public place, we demand the next time you have a rally, all of them be arrested for imposing their beliefs upon the rest of the people.

Oh ya..

Telliria declares war against the Attican Empire. We will protect Canales with our full strength. 500,000 Tellirian Elite Gaurd are marching into Canales land to aid them in case of invasion. Our navy is moving to aid the Canales navy.

5 Iwoa class Battleships
8 Tiger class subs
3 Agies Cruisers
2 Aircraft Carriers

Our airforce is also moving to intercept the enemy aircraft. 750 F-16's and 100 F-22 Raptors are moving to intercept the enemy aircraft.
26-11-2003, 00:29
The Attican First Battlegroup and first carrier group is being moved to Canales to secure the blockadel position.

OOC: To let you know, an AWR-120 can easily knock out an F-16, and can knock out the majority of time an F-22. And considering the HB-100 flies at 85,000ft...
26-11-2003, 01:40
Secret message code 5*
--FROM FPC--
--TO ATTICAN EMPIRE--
Dear Kaiser -STOP- I will not let your citizens be so foolishly taken captive -STOP- This is why I support you, not publicly...for now, in this war -STOP- I would gladly send equipement or weapons if you need them -STOP- Don'T be shy. -STOP-
--OVER--
26-11-2003, 02:02
--Message encrypted 2048bit--
To: FPC
From: Ksr. Kuklinski V

The main thing I need are more fighters and bombers.
26-11-2003, 03:19
Secret message code 5*
--FROM FPC--
--TO ATTICAN EMPIRE--
Well then, sorry. FPC's army has fewer than 200 airplanes and much are in poor conditions. I could however send you anti-aircraft guns. We specialize in standard AA guns and also AA guns mounted on a vehicle.
--OVER--

--FROM FPC--
--TO ATTICAN EMPIRE, TELLIRIA & CANALES--
Good day to you. I would ask you to please cease all hostilities towards each other. You should resolve your matters through diplomacy. If you wish, you could all send embassadors to FPC's capital, Nia-Quebec (New-Quebec) so that we could arrange a truce or a peace. I sincerely hope you will answer my call.
Telliria
26-11-2003, 03:45
Our amount in numbers a simple team work should be able to push through your fighters.

To FPC

I will send an Ambassador immediatly.

Tellirian troops will arive in Canales in 2 hours. The navy is almost in position. They will cut throught the blockade and move in witht he allied navy.

A second wave of fighters is being launched.
200 more F-22s and 300 more F-16's.
Whittier
26-11-2003, 04:05
The Secretary General rides down main avenue as a triumphant victor in the Capital city's commemoration parade. Suddenly a black bullet proof car speeds up to the SG's vehicle and the driver passes the Secretary General a peice of paper. Reading it, the smile falls from his youthful face, replaced by a very concerned grin. He says something unintillegible to his driver. The car suddenly turns into the corner, the crowd having been parted by special police. The Secretary General speeds off to the Presidential Palace escorted by military police, leaving stunned masses and television viewers behind.
Minutes later, the parade and celebrations are canceled and a state of emergency are declared.
Thousands of Whittierites, sit at home and in clubs across the nation dumbfounded as reports of the Attican Empire's invasion of neighboring Canales pour in.
Some canceled celebrations in some towns turn into anti Attica rallies.
Meantime, the Ministry of Information, assures the public that Secretary General Brezhnekov is being breifed on the news.
Information Minister, Mike Gonzalez: Mr. Brezhnekov is meeting with the Ministers of Foreign Affairs, Defense, Trade, and Internal Security.
Reporter: How does Brezhnekov feel about he attacks on Canales?
Gonzalez: The Secretary General is very upset about these attacks. Attica is attacking without provocation, a nation that has not attacked it.
Reporter: Has he seen the attican bombing of the public schools in Canales?
Gonzalez: He has seen them, and the scenes brought tears to his eyes and the eyes of those present in the room. The Secretary General cannot understand why anyone would be so anti religion as to attack school children.
Reporter: unintelligible
Gonzalez: Yes, he has ordered the Ministry of Foreign Affairs to contact the Attican government and talks are under way with Canales and humanitarian aid is already on the way to Canales as we speak.
26-11-2003, 04:22
Naked Teenage Girls condemns with greatest firmness, Attican Empire's unjust attack on Canales__.
We call on them to halt their attack and to withdraw from Canales__ territory.
26-11-2003, 05:52
OOC: I already have a permanent diplomat in Neues Quebek, in fact, an entire diplomatic team.

IC:

Official Reply to Supernational concerns about the military action in Canales by the Kaiser:

"
The nation of Canales arrested 5 citizens on charges of treason. Besides several obvious facts, their grounds were that they blasphemized against their 'holy' emperor. This is just a fancy way of saying that since they are Attican citizens, and the Attican Kaiser denounced the holy emperor, that Attican Citizens in Canales, who were not given a chance to leave, must also be coconspiratores.

Now, they were accused of treason. Since treason is defined as violation of allegiance toward one's country or sovereign, especially the betrayal of one's country by waging war against it or by consciously and purposely acting to aid its enemies. The Emperor of Canales is NOT their sovereign, and Canales is NOT their country. They are Attican citizens who are sworn to allegiance of the Attican Monarch. Emperor Canales had no right to arrest them, and certainly no right to threaten them with death.

We tried several waves of diplomacy, and even offered the choice that if they are released, we will cease hostilities. They have refused. This is not the actions of an international law-abiding state, but a national terrorist group that has taken over a nation.

We are still offering Canales the ability to release the hostages, and, if they accept, we will cease hostilities. We have no want to fight, but we WILL fight in order to protect Attican citizens from the unjustly actions of other states.

Again, if you wish to see civilians protected, urge Canales to release the hostages, and we will cease hostilities. We have been attempting to aim for military and imperial targets only, but accidents DO happen. It is even possible that since the Emperor of Canales has near-hysteria over religion, that he is encouraging human shields so our bombers kill civilians even when attacking military targets. While these accusations are not yet unfounded, it is a likely scenario.

We will NOT invade with any sizable force, if necessary, the only force used will be to break out our hostages, ala Iran. Once Canales releases the hostages, or they are forcefully released, we will cease hostilities.
"
26-11-2003, 06:18
The People's Republic of Sliponia and the colony of Slipouri are both prepared for assisting Attican in this matter. The charges of "treason" are absurd. In order to be guilty of treason, one must first be a citizen of said nation. Also, not only will you have Sliponia and Slipouri, but you risk attack from member nations of the "One World Alliance" due to Article Two which states that member nations shall assist other members in time of military conflict.

As for the need for aircraft, Sliponia and Slipouri have many at it's disposal. Attican, how many bombers, fighters, choppers, etc., do you estimtate you'll need??
McLeod03
26-11-2003, 09:38
<Encrypted message>
TO: Telliria
FROM: MAFCC
SUBJECT: Confrontation with Attican Empire

Withdraw all forces from the area immediately. Any Tellirian forces to fire on those Attican vessels attemtping to free innocent political hostages WILL be destroyed.

If you fire even so much as one bullet, the McLeodian Empire will fall on you like a ton of bricks. Stand down your forces, or you will regret it.

<End of message>


<Public Broadcast>
FROM: MAFCC

At precisely 08:34 today, King James IV declared a state of war to exist between our great Empire and the terrorist state of Canales.

It is believed that a large naval taskforce is en route, and that 2nd and 3rd armies are preparing to depart for the area to aid the Attican forces in freeing hostages held by the rogue nation of Canales.

<End of broadcast>


<Forces En Route>

2nd, 3rd, 4th CBG
3rd-10th CPG
1st SCBG
2nd-4th SCPG


<Forces on alert, awaiting deployment>

32nd Regiment
2nd and 3rd Armies
Bomber Command
Fighter Command
Tanker Command
Reconnaisance Command + 10th ORS
26-11-2003, 09:41
SIC:

Abord the KFS Roland, a crack insertion team is being prepared.
McLeod03
26-11-2003, 09:44
Further to previous deployments, a civilian salvage vessel sails parallel to Canales territorial waters. It is unarmed, and slow moving. Anyone observing the submarine from below would see a small hatch open, and 12 men slip into the water with propulsion units.

They are 3rd team / 32nd Regiment.
26-11-2003, 10:07
A fleet of Sliponian aircraft carriers, while still remaining in neutral waters, approach the water borders of Canales awaiting orders from the other unified nations.

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26-11-2003, 21:05
SIC: The Marine detachment gets on their choppers, towards where informants have notified them of a possible location where the hostages are located.
Telliria
26-11-2003, 22:08
Tellirian units launch an attack against the enemy navy. Tiger subs begin the assualt with torpedos followed up shortly by cruise missle launches. Hornets lauch off the Aircraft Carrier and begin the attack against the enemy battleships and aircraft carrier.

15 more Tiger subs have been deployed to aid the units.

An incident with a Tellirian civilain cruise ship moving near Attican Empire occures. It quickly realizes its mistake and moves away, back into international waters.


5 Iowa Battleships, 2 Aircraft Carriers, 2 Agies Cruisers, and 25 Tiger subs (We have so many cause we recieved 100 billion from Kurlej for another war that ened quickly. So we have some subs left over, although this is mostly the extent of it.) move into Attican Empire water. They don't make any hostile actions though.

To Attican Empire:

Turn the teacher over to Telliria and we will back out of the war.
McLeod03
26-11-2003, 23:10
All submarine patrol groups chang ecourse, and super-cavitate in order to reach Attican waters quickly.

On reaching Attican waters, the combat groups deploy around the 2nd SCBG, and prepare to attack the Tellirian fleet.


<Encrypted Message>
TO: Telliria
FROM: King James IV

I am in no mood for foolish leaders who support terrorist nations, and wish to ally themselves with the axis of evil.

Remove your fleet from Attican waters IMMEDIATELY, or it will be sunk.
26-11-2003, 23:18
To Telliria: We will not be blackmailed.

OOC: You never said you deployed your subs, therefore I ignore the sub attack.

IC:

"Sir, we have incoming bogies."
"What type?"
"They look like Hornets!"
"Arm Anti-Aircraft assemblies! ALL PILOTS! SCRAMBLE, SCRAMBLE! This is not a drill!"

On the KFS Roland, quite quickly, the ships arsenal of 105 AWR-120 Naval Fighters are deployed. The anti-aircraft ships, frigates, cruisers, and battleships of the 2 battle groups and carrier group arm anti-aircraft weaponry.

The KFS Karl der Grosse, a Karl der Grosse-class Dreadnaught, along with the Alberich, Brunhild, Hagen, and the Rudiger, all Iowa class Dreadnaughts, are fully armed.

In Attican Waters, the Flugzeugtraegergruppezwei, the second carrier group, prepares for the incoming fleet. Ground based anti-naval weaponry is prepared. The carrier Wilhelm I, a Nimitz-class Carrier, scrambles it's AWR-120 Naval Fighters, the U-100 and U-99 move into defensive positions around the carrier group. The Ticonderoga-class Cruiser, the Zenturio, arms Harpoon missiles, and prepares to fire on the enemy fleet. The 5 Oliver Hazard Perry-class Frigates, the Teutone, the Ameise, the Ginter, the Niederkofler, and the Mauser, also prepare their Harpoons and torpedoes. The Kirsons, a Spruance-class Destroyer, arms it's Harpoons and torpedoes as well. The 4 Arleigh Burke-class AEGIS Destroyers, the Vevle, the Richthofen, the Rommel, and the Prinkle, all prepare for combat, readying their anti-submarine weaponry, and also preparing Harpoons and Torpedoes. The two Sacramento-class supply ships, the Minnow and the Doktor, stay well clear of the combat area.

Parts of the U-Boat fleet, maintly U-101 to U-131 (30 Subs), all Los Angeles-class, begin moving towards the enemy fleet.

OOC: Are you on the north, south, or west side of Attica?
Killan Baraduc
26-11-2003, 23:19
we of the killian baraduc feel that there is a thin line between enlightment and forced preachings but if this man violates the country is qwuestions laws, he should be punished, a countrys law is supreme wheter other countrys agree or not.
if this theacher has broken a law, we from Killan Baraduc support the action taken by the police anything else, is endorsing anarchy and disorder.
McLeod03
26-11-2003, 23:22
OOC: Attican, do you want me to redeploy the sub battle groups ahead of the Flugzeugtraegergruppezwei as an ASW and anti-shipping screen?
26-11-2003, 23:27
25 Blitz Class subs, similar to the "Seawolf Class", and 25 VC Class subs similar to the "Virginia Class" have been deployed from Sliponia to Attican waters.
26-11-2003, 23:27
OOC: Use them to go behind his fleet, when my fleet smashes into his on the front, your's can come in from the back, and torpedo his vessels. They will be unable to escape and harass shipping, and, if they begin winning, you can destroy their flagship, and then surface artillery can fire on him.
McLeod03
26-11-2003, 23:32
OOC: Will do.
Crookfur
26-11-2003, 23:51
The ever present Crookfur task group takes great interest in the various attaks flying around (they are currently off the north coast of FPC in thier usual area of operations, some details of where abouts this conflict is taking place might be nice but from the looks of things it is all happening off your western coast, which means we don't get to accidentially intercept a missile swarm as it enters our defence envelope...)

A number of ratings (and officers) have running wagers on how long it will take before you can walk right the way around attica on the decks of ships.
Telliria
27-11-2003, 00:34
Since it is forcing your religion upon someone to preach it in a public place, we demand the next time you have a rally, all of them be arrested for imposing their beliefs upon the rest of the people.

Oh ya..

Telliria declares war against the Attican Empire. We will protect Canales with our full strength. 500,000 Tellirian Elite Gaurd are marching into Canales land to aid them in case of invasion. Our navy is moving to aid the Canales navy.

5 Iwoa class Battleships
8 Tiger class subs
3 Agies Cruisers
2 Aircraft Carriers

Our airforce is also moving to intercept the enemy aircraft. 750 F-16's and 100 F-22 Raptors are moving to intercept the enemy aircraft.

Whats that huh!? YA SUBS! Change ur post.

Tellirian troops begin moving back to Telliria.

Tellirian forces move from Attican Empire waters. They move very quickly, considering a fleet of that size could easily hold its ground. It begins moving back to Telliria.

In Attican Empire, it is soon descovered that the teacher is not in his cell. Dead bodies lie everywhere, some hit with precision, others hit multiple times. There is no sign of who did it, and is obvious that this was done by highly trained indivuals, possible only trained in this area of warfare. 2 hours later Telliria sends a message;

To All nations involved in this conflict;

Telliria backs out. We have got what we wanted. They are now in international water, and we expect that laws will cross into Tellirian water in 15 minutes.

We have spend 15 years training men for jail breaks. We appologize for the lost life, but it was neccisary. Good Luck,

Emperor Teros II

A speed boat is found missing from the docks.
27-11-2003, 00:37
--FPC, senate, special conference room--
The room is quite spacious. Ambassadors from Attica & Telliria are seated at a wide marble table with FPCian ambassadors and dignitaries seperating them. FPC's prime minister, Yuri Gagarini, begins to adress both parties:

"Dear gentlement, why have your countries come to hate each other. Why couldn't you make peace instead of war? My humble nation came out of a destructive civil war & another war...we know that peace is good. What are your problems? Speak now please so we can all understand what is going on."
27-11-2003, 02:05
OOC: Telliria - you better have a good excuse for godmodding before I just ignore you.


In Attican Empire, it is soon descovered that the teacher is not in his cell. Dead bodies lie everywhere, some hit with precision, others hit multiple times. There is no sign of who did it, and is obvious that this was done by highly trained indivuals, possible only trained in this area of warfare. 2 hours later Telliria sends a message;


That is a simple godmod. You never stated you sent troops, nor did you account for attican troops in Attica.
27-11-2003, 03:16
Telliria backs out. We have got what we wanted. They are now in international water, and we expect that laws will cross into Tellirian water in 15 minutes.

OOC: Umm....No? You can't go in, GODMOD, then say you quit. You have to allow Attican or another nation attept retaliation. Or everyone could just ignore your GODMODDING.
27-11-2003, 03:22
The Holy Empire, announces the execution of 3 of the Atticans who were arrested after they attempted a jail break.
The other two have been released to Whittier, after they were forced to condemn the illegal actions of their home country.

In response to the Attican attack, the emperor has a general military alert and has officially declared jihad against Attica.
In his statement, the Emperor noted that contrary to false propaganda by Attica, the 5 Atticans were never charged with, they were charged with violating the laws and soverignty of Canales by speaking blashpemously against the emperor.
Attica want's other nations to respect its soverignty, yet it refuses the same courtesy to other nations. In Canales, all people in our land are subject to all the laws of our land regardless of whether they are Canales citizens or not. If they did not like Canales laws, then why did they come when they knew they would suffer if they broke them. The fact is, these five were spies working for Attica in a conspiracy to force Canales to be a nonreligious province of Attica. The people of Canales will not renounce thier allegiance to the Lord God Almighty.
50 anti ship cruise missiles have been fired at the Attican fleet illegally positioned in Canales waters.
3 ICBM's have been fired at major military installations inside Attica.
The Canales air force and air defenses have shot down 34 missiles and 54 Attican aircraft since the Emperor authorized them to defend the nation, 24 hours after the first Attican attack began.
We report that Attica's attaacks have murdered 2,000 innocent civilians.
27-11-2003, 03:22
The Holy Empire, announces the execution of 3 of the Atticans who were arrested after they attempted a jail break.
The other two have been released to Whittier, after they were forced to condemn the illegal actions of their home country.

In response to the Attican attack, the emperor has a general military alert and has officially declared jihad against Attica.
In his statement, the Emperor noted that contrary to false propaganda by Attica, the 5 Atticans were never charged with, they were charged with violating the laws and soverignty of Canales by speaking blashpemously against the emperor.
Attica want's other nations to respect its soverignty, yet it refuses the same courtesy to other nations. In Canales, all people in our land are subject to all the laws of our land regardless of whether they are Canales citizens or not. If they did not like Canales laws, then why did they come when they knew they would suffer if they broke them. The fact is, these five were spies working for Attica in a conspiracy to force Canales to be a nonreligious province of Attica. The people of Canales will not renounce thier allegiance to the Lord God Almighty.
50 anti ship cruise missiles have been fired at the Attican fleet illegally positioned in Canales waters.
3 ICBM's have been fired at major military installations inside Attica.
The Canales air force and air defenses have shot down 34 missiles and 54 Attican aircraft since the Emperor authorized them to defend the nation, 24 hours after the first Attican attack began.
We report that Attica's attaacks have murdered 2,000 innocent civilians.
27-11-2003, 03:59
[code:1:17bd3c60a2]Encrypted Message to Attican Empire

Are these reports by Canales true?[/code:1:17bd3c60a2]
Whittier
27-11-2003, 04:13
The nightly cable broadcast of the Britney Spears talk show goes off air, replaced by blank screen.
A news anchor appears, her hair disheveled as if she had just arrived on set and had not yet had time to fix it.
The words "Special Report" appear across the screen.
Anchor, reading from a paper handed her: Just minutes ago, the Presidential Palace officially confirmed that over 4 million troops have been mobilized and are officially heading into the Canales Empire's territory. There are reports the Whittier navy is now arming to the teeth in preparement for deployment.
Activity has been reported at Whittier air force bases throughout the nation as the Secretary General has declared a general news blackout.
The official also said Secretary General Brezhnekov will address the nation in 15 minutes.
This is all the information we have been given. Again, if you are just joining us, 4 million Whittierite troops are heading into Canales territory.
Insiders report talks between the Foreign Ministers of Whittier, Canales, and Naked Teenage Girls regarding the situation in Canales.
In a development, which we are not sure is related, Canales handed over two Attican citizens to the Whittier diplomatic mission in the Canales capital. Whittier officials say the Atticans were flown out of Canales into Whittier where they were given medical examinations before being handed over to the International Red Cross.
Canales officials report that they have declared the two Atticans, persona nongrata. Meaning they will not be allowed to enter Canales territory again and if they do, they will be executed.
Whittier
27-11-2003, 04:26
Brezhnekov appears on screen. Somberly looking into camera as if looking at viewers. A night of all night discussions with his cabinet, foreign governments and the leaders of Parliament showing on his face.


Good evening, tonight, I bring very unfortunate tidings from Canales__, our neighbor.
Yesterday, while we celebrated reunification, the Empire of Attica launched a cruel and unjustified attack against the Holy Empire of Canales and illegally invaded our sphere of influence.
Our attempts to discuss the situation with Attica were rebuffed by the Attican Empire. Canales has the right to enforce its laws on its territory, regardless of the citizenship or nationality of the people the law is enforced against. Yet, Attica attacked Canales after demanding that its people in Canales be given special treatment not afforded to other foreigners, and not afforded to Canales' own citizens.
While we condemn the lack of religious freedom in both Attica and Canales, we cannot stand idly by while our neighbor is attacked intent on taking away its soverignty.
Therefore, hours ago, I ordered the mobilization of the National Guard and Army Reservists throughout Whittier. The air force is now on red alert. The Whittier navy has been ordered to arm to the teeth and set out to sea.
Further, as I speak, over 4 million Whittierite ground troops are now entering Canales with the permission of the Canales government.
A final attempt at peaceful settlement was sent to the Attican government.
Seeing as their attacks are killing civilians and is an illegal violation of Canales national soverignty and the Whittier's sphere influence, the Attican Empire's actions are threat to Whittier's national interests.
Effective immediately, the Emperor of the Attican Empire has 24 hours to halt hostilities with Canales and to immediately withdraw all forces from Canales territory including its water and air space.
Further, all Attican financial assets in Whittier banks has officially been frozen and all other Attican assets in Whittier have been seized and sold to pay compensation to the civilian victims of Attica's invasion.
We do not seek war, but if Attica and its allies do not halt hostilities within 24 hours, Whittier will intervene militarily against the Attican alliance.
27-11-2003, 04:34
OOC: Canales, are those ICBM's nuclear?

IC: On the combined fleets of the First and Second Battle Groups, and the First Carrier Group:

"Sir, incoming anti-ship missiles!"

"Prepare anti-missile systems!"

Tracers are seen flying from the ships. 2 of the Oliver Hazard Perry's are hit, but the majority of the missiles are knocked down by the sheer firepower of the combined fleets.

"Sir, sattelites read possible nuclear ICBM launches from Canalen territory. The TV is coming on!"

IC:

2kbit encrypted
To: Sliponia
From: Attica

No. If you are asking about the hostages, we have no idea whether or not it is true. They have not been released to our custody.
27-11-2003, 04:43
The RevivedRomanEmpire officially declares war on Canales.
25,000 Roman troops, on transports, having been held off Canales coast for over a month due to a dispute between the two nations, have officially landed on Canales territory. They have proceeded to desecrate the area's churchs and to burn alive all christians they have captured.
So far, 45 Canalians have been forced at gun point to renounce God.
Another 230,000 troops are on the way.
The Roman F22s have left their carriers and are now striking civilian targets inside Canales.
The RevivedRomanEmpire calls on the people of Canales to renounce their God and swear total allegiance to Lord Antichrist.
Meantime, Antichrist has declared alliance with Attica.
Together, Rome and Attica will crush these christians and wipe their nation from the earth.
Whittier
27-11-2003, 04:47
The RevivedRomanEmpire officially declares war on Canales.
25,000 Roman troops, on transports, having been held off Canales coast for over a month due to a dispute between the two nations, have officially landed on Canales territory. They have proceeded to desecrate the area's churchs and to burn alive all christians they have captured.
So far, 45 Canalians have been forced at gun point to renounce God.
Another 230,000 troops are on the way.
The Roman F22s have left their carriers and are now striking civilian targets inside Canales.
The RevivedRomanEmpire calls on the people of Canales to renounce their God and swear total allegiance to Lord Antichrist.
Meantime, Antichrist has declared alliance with Attica.
Together, Rome and Attica will crush these christians and wipe their nation from the earth.
Withdraw your troops immediately or share Attica's impending fate.
27-11-2003, 04:48
OOC: Whittier, did you declare yourself to be allied with Canales?
27-11-2003, 04:49
The RevivedRomanEmpire officially declares war on Canales.
25,000 Roman troops, on transports, having been held off Canales coast for over a month due to a dispute between the two nations, have officially landed on Canales territory. They have proceeded to desecrate the area's churchs and to burn alive all christians they have captured.
So far, 45 Canalians have been forced at gun point to renounce God.
Another 230,000 troops are on the way.
The Roman F22s have left their carriers and are now striking civilian targets inside Canales.
The RevivedRomanEmpire calls on the people of Canales to renounce their God and swear total allegiance to Lord Antichrist.
Meantime, Antichrist has declared alliance with Attica.
Together, Rome and Attica will crush these christians and wipe their nation from the earth.
Withdraw your troops immediately or share Attica's impending fate.
Withdraw, why? The world is against the christians. The world is on my side now.
And if you attack me, I will use nuclear weapons.
Whittier
27-11-2003, 04:52
OOC: Whittier, did you declare yourself to be allied with Canales?
Read your TGs.

Rome, any use of nuclear weapons will result in a massive counterstrike. Unlike you, I have at least 15,000 nuclear tipped ICBM's.
Do you really wish to exchange nukes?
27-11-2003, 04:55
OOC: Canales, are those ICBM's nuclear?

IC: On the combined fleets of the First and Second Battle Groups, and the First Carrier Group:

"Sir, incoming anti-ship missiles!"

"Prepare anti-missile systems!"

Tracers are seen flying from the ships. 2 of the Oliver Hazard Perry's are hit, but the majority of the missiles are knocked down by the sheer firepower of the combined fleets.

"Sir, sattelites read possible nuclear ICBM launches from Canalen territory. The TV is coming on!"

IC:

2kbit encrypted
To: Sliponia
From: Attica

No. If you are asking about the hostages, we have no idea whether or not it is true. They have not been released to our custody.

ICBM's are conventional. Treaties with Whittier and South Pacific from a war years ago prohibit me from having any WMD's, especially chemical and bio weapons.
but they have really big conventional warheads.
27-11-2003, 04:56
Canales has declared war on the RevivedRomanEmpire and will not end the war until all Romans have converted to Catholicism.
27-11-2003, 06:06
IC:

Because the majority of the bases had been emptied as troops are being moved about because of increased awareness, and preparedness for a possible assault, casualties were minimal. Bombings have been stepped up, and more Tomahawks have been fired, aimed at Churches, and 10 Tomahawks were fired at the Canalian Imperial Palace.
27-11-2003, 06:10
OOC: 15,000 nukes wouldn't be necessary. If he has just 400, he could devestate your country just as 15,000 would. In fact, 15,000 would destroy the worlds ecosystems, including yours.
27-11-2003, 06:54
[code:1:3485d64442]Maximum Security Encoded Message to Attican:

The Sliponian Air Force is prepared to attack. Shall we go on bombing runs inside Canales? If so, what/where should we attack?

[/code:1:3485d64442]
27-11-2003, 08:25
2kbit Encryption
To: Sliponia

Attack government targets.
27-11-2003, 10:02
200 Sliponian bombers make their way high above the skies of Canales and begin bombing the areas around known government facilities all through out the country. 2 bombers divert from their course and are sent to go on bombing runs in the capital city.
Whittier
27-11-2003, 19:02
Good afternoon,
Two days ago, Attica and allies, launched an illegal violation of Canales territory. Their claim that Canales is illegally holding Atticans as political prisoners is false, as they have been handed over to us. As reported yesterday, we in turn, gave them to the Red Cross (since we have no diplomatic relations with Attican Empire).
Yesterday, I gave Attica 24 hours to halt military operations inside Canales and to withdraw all Attican allied forces from Canales territory, water, and airspace.
Attica, has responded by intensifying their bombing runs over Canales.
Therefore, I have ordered Whittier's armed forces to fire upon the Attican alliance at will.
Effectively immediately, all Whittier diplomatic staff have been recalled from the RevivedRomanEmpire and Rome's ambassador to Whittier has been expelled.
A state war now exists between Rome and Whittier. A state of war now exists between Whittier and the Attican Empire.
I call on all other nations helping Attica to stop at once, or share the fate of Attica and Rome.
In compliance with my orders, 15 minutes ago, 75 ICBM's were launched at the belligerents. 35 were headed to targets inside the RevivedRomanEmpire, the other 35 were headed to targets inside the Attican Empire.

At last count, 15 Attican bombers and fighters have been shot down by the Whittier air force.
27-11-2003, 19:06
OOC: Are those nuclear ICBMs?
Whittier
27-11-2003, 19:09
OOC: Are those nuclear ICBMs?

No.
Official Whittier position and policy is that nuclear weapons will not be used unless you use them first. Just know, that if you do use even one such weapon, our warning to Revived Roman Empire also applies to you.
Whittier
27-11-2003, 19:11
The 4 million Whittier troops inside Canales are now taking up defensive positions and have begun to hunt down any military personnel from Attica.
27-11-2003, 19:11
That teacher was an agent of The Holy Empire of Scone.

We are currently seeking a WMD program and plotting your destruction.
27-11-2003, 19:14
OOC: I have no personell in Canales, I am not invading them. It would be stupid for me to invade them.

IC: More Tomahawks are being launched, many more targeted at government buildings.

OOC2: I am basically trying to kill the Holy Emperor thing.

IC2: Several of the ICBMs again were shot down, but the majority (around 20) hit in Military Bases, killing or maiming 10,000 off-duty soldiers. 5 hit in residential areas, killing 900 civilians.
Whittier
27-11-2003, 19:14
That teacher was an agent of The Holy Empire of Scone.

We are currently seeking a WMD program and plotting your destruction.
We are very concerned about your programs and stated goal as they currently violate international law and various international treaties.
Whittier
27-11-2003, 19:16
OOC: I have no personell in Canales, I am not invading them. It would be stupid for me to invade them.

IC: More Tomahawks are being launched, many more targeted at government buildings.

OOC2: I am basically trying to kill the Holy Emperor thing.

IC2: Several of the ICBMs again were shot down, but the majority (around 20) hit in Military Bases, killing or maiming 10,000 off-duty soldiers. 5 hit in residential areas, killing 900 civilians.

Whittier does not target civilian residential areas. But our tech is not perfect, policy provides for financial compensation to the families of the errant bombs victims once the war is over.
27-11-2003, 19:17
In an attempted jailbreak, Johann Krueger killed an Attican Prison guard with a makeshift spoon/knife, now known as a Snife. 2 Attican Guards rushed in, and filled Krueger with bullets. Another man was killed trying to escape, and another was captured. The captured one stated he was working for the Canales.
Whittier
27-11-2003, 19:17
OOC: I have no personell in Canales, I am not invading them. It would be stupid for me to invade them.

IC: More Tomahawks are being launched, many more targeted at government buildings.

OOC2: I am basically trying to kill the Holy Emperor thing.

IC2: Several of the ICBMs again were shot down, but the majority (around 20) hit in Military Bases, killing or maiming 10,000 off-duty soldiers. 5 hit in residential areas, killing 900 civilians.

OOC: Trying to kill the Holy Emperor thing?
Explain. And you better have a good explanation for going to war for an out of character reason.
27-11-2003, 19:19
OOC: It isn't OOC. I am trying to kill the Canales Holy Emperor for vengeance against my two murdered citizens. Before, the war was over getting the hostages back. But now that 3 are unaccounted for in the mess known as the red cross, and 2 are murdered, we want vengeance for the murdered ones.
Whittier
27-11-2003, 19:21
OOC: It isn't OOC. I am trying to kill the Canales Holy Emperor for vengeance against my two murdered citizens. Before, the war was over getting the hostages back. But now that 3 are unaccounted for in the mess known as the red cross, and 2 are murdered, we want vengeance for the murdered ones.

We remind Attica that 2 in question were killed as they attempted to escape, a crime punishable by death according to the Canales government.
Further, we were told they killed prison guards.
27-11-2003, 19:23
We reming Whittier that in Attica's eyes, they were imprisoned on unjust reasons. Therefore, the killed prison guards in Canales were terrorists, in Attica's eyes, and therefore, they murdered the 2 hostages.
Whittier
27-11-2003, 19:24
The 2nd 3rd, and 15th air divisions (comprised of F22s, stealth fighters, stealth bombers, and Harrier bomber jets) have begun attacking the Attican fleet inside Canales territorial waters.
Leaked Saturn
27-11-2003, 19:24
A teacher by the name of Johann Krueger was arrested this morning, when a student came home and told his parents that Krueger had spent the entire class preaching about god and how he will enlighten their life, et cetera. When the parent contacted school officials, they interviewed several students, and confirmed the story. Police then arrested the teacher, and he is now being charged with violation of the 'Separation of Church and State' laws, the 'Child Abuse' laws, and 'Child Endangerment' laws.

I disagree with the end result in this situation. I believe that in public schools, there should be a fair and balanced look at the pros and cons of every (main) :idea: religion. This includes science where evolution's strong and weak points are presented as well as Creation's.
Whittier
27-11-2003, 19:25
Attica can end hostilities now by ending its attack on Canales.
27-11-2003, 19:27
We will end our attack if 'Emperor' Canales is delivered to Attica for trial.
27-11-2003, 19:29
Another 300,000 civilians have been butchered by Attica.
I demand that their emperor be handed over for trial on charges of crimes against humanity.
They are barbarians. Targeting the innocent.
The 74th airwing has joined planes from WHittier in attacking the Attican fleet.
27-11-2003, 19:31
Another 300,000 civilians have been butchered by Attica.
I demand that their emperor be handed over for trial on charges of crimes against humanity.
They are barbarians. Targeting the innocent.
The 74th airwing has joined planes from WHittier in attacking the Attican fleet.

OOC: Damn forum.
27-11-2003, 19:34
OOC: Did ANY of my missiles headed towards your palace kill your emperor???? I shot like 20 towards it....
27-11-2003, 19:39
Rome wishes to declare peace.
We never meant to burn those churches. The whole thing was Attica's idea. He told me to do it.
My forces are leaving Canales now. Will you accept peace?
:lol:
I was just kidding about that torture and kill the christian stuff. That was Attica's idea too.
Roman always did like Canalesians.
Eh...
Our air force is already withdrawn.
27-11-2003, 19:41
??? I never told you to do anything.

In fact, I disliked you jumping into the thread and godmodding to a slight degree.
27-11-2003, 19:41
The 3rd Fighter Wing of the Imperial Royal Air Force is standing by to aid the forces of Canales and attack the Attican Fleet.
27-11-2003, 19:42
The Emperor suvived untouched.
God save the Emperor.

Peace with Rome is not possible.
The only way for them to have peace, is to convert to Christianity.
He attacked of his own accord, and declared war before the Atticans attacked.
There can be no peace with Rome as long as Antichrist is still alive.
27-11-2003, 19:44
More Tomahawks are fired at government targets, including the Imperial Palaces.
27-11-2003, 19:46
More Tomahawks are fired at government targets, including the Imperial Palaces.

Canales will be insisting on financial compensation for al buildings and infrastructure destroyed by Attica.
The Emperor has been whisked away from the Imperial complex by secret service agents.
He was take to an undisclosed location in the country side.
27-11-2003, 19:48
55 ICBM's were fired at Attica and 124 antiship missiles were fired at the Attican fleet.
The 17th Air fleet has begun bombing the Attican navy in Canales waters and just outside Canales waters.
27-11-2003, 19:49
OOC: You are aware I won't pay? You are a Catholic nation, get the Vatican to pay.

IC:

Two AWR-120s are flying over Canales.

"What is that down there?"
"Dunno, let's shoot it."

Two missiles are fired at the vehicle (the one the emperor is being transported in).
27-11-2003, 19:50
Several more frigates in the fleet were hit, and several more military targets in Attica were hit, but since Canales fired them randoly into Attica, there were almost no casualties.

The aircraft sent to attack the fleet (since you didn't state what they were, I could simply assume they are Wright Flyers) are easily shot down by anti-aircraft weaponry, which the fleet has a lot of.
27-11-2003, 19:50
Fortunately, the Emperor wasn't in the vehicles that were ruthlessly attacked.
The secret service won't disclose the means of transport.
27-11-2003, 19:50
Should the Attican Empire require assistance against the evil forces of religion, The Dominion of Hamstermums gladly easy your burden by treating injured personnel, and assist in refueling and repairing any ships or airplanes that has been damaged.

This will be done on neutral waters, as we do not want any part in the armed conflict.

This way we show our gratitude towards the strong step to denounce the powerhungry religions.

Empty carriers and repaircrafts are awaiting their orders at the Dominion basins.

Stormblod, Father of the Dominion
27-11-2003, 19:52
Several more frigates in the fleet were hit, and several more military targets in Attica were hit, but since Canales fired them randoly into Attica, there were almost no casualties.

The aircraft sent to attack the fleet (since you didn't state what they were, I could simply assume they are Wright Flyers) are easily shot down by anti-aircraft weaponry, which the fleet has a lot of.

OOC: where is your nation located?
27-11-2003, 19:53
Should the Attican Empire require assistance against the evil forces of religion, The Dominion of Hamstermums gladly easy your burden by treating injured personnel, and assist in refueling and repairing any ships or airplanes that has been damaged.

This will be done on neutral waters, as we do not want any part in the armed conflict.

This way we show our gratitude towards the strong step to denounce the powerhungry religions.

Empty carriers and repaircrafts are awaiting their orders at the Dominion basins.

Stormblod, Father of the Dominion

B2 bombers have attacked the Hamstermums, ships.
27-11-2003, 19:53
About 1400km away from your nation, on the Attican Peninsula, shared with Attica, FPC, and Vampiric Dominion....

OOC: Your last post is a godmod, one, he is not combat participant, you just attacked neutral ships, and two, B2s don't carry anti-ship weaponry, plus they dont take off instantly.
27-11-2003, 19:54
The 3rd Imperial Fighter Wing has arrived in Canales, as well as 200 members of the Empire's 1st Commando Unit to help rout the remaining Roman terrorists.
27-11-2003, 19:57
ooc : I am prefectly new to RP in nationstates environment, so i beg you to correct me if I am making any major mistakes

The ships are still awaiting government order at the harbours of the Dominion. Nothing has yet been done to possibly earn an attack from hostile flight.
The offer was made to the Attican Empire, but in the spirit of human rights.
Or do you say that wounded soldiers should not be allowed treatment ?
27-11-2003, 19:58
About 1400km away from your nation, on the Attican Peninsula, shared with Attica, FPC, and Vampiric Dominion....

OOC: Your last post is a godmod, one, he is not combat participant, you just attacked neutral ships, and two, B2s don't carry anti-ship weaponry, plus they dont take off instantly.

OOC: B2's can't carry antiship weaponry? What about regularly bombs.
I never said they took off instantly. Where did you get that idea?

Also, those ships were not neutral cause he stated his intention was to help you repair them. By doing so, he became a participant on your side of the war.
If he limited himself to humanitarian aid, and not helping your military, I would not have attacked him.
27-11-2003, 20:01
He can shoot down your B2s just as easily as you can attack his ships.

B2 bombers have attacked the Hamstermums, ships.
where did you say you took them off, armed them, et cetera.
27-11-2003, 20:01
ooc : I am prefectly new to RP in nationstates environment, so i beg you to correct me if I am making any major mistakes

The ships are still awaiting government order at the harbours of the Dominion. Nothing has yet been done to possibly earn an attack from hostile flight.
The offer was made to the Attican Empire, but in the spirit of human rights.
Or do you say that wounded soldiers should not be allowed treatment ?

Damn it. You did not say that.
And you also posted that you were repairing attican ships and planes so they could return to battle.
I have no problem if you want to treat the wounded, but repairing weapons of war will get you attacked for legitimate reasons.
27-11-2003, 20:02
He can shoot down your B2s just as easily as you can attack his ships.

B2 bombers have attacked the Hamstermums, ships.
where did you say you took them off, armed them, et cetera.
I have to do all that?
27-11-2003, 20:03
By doing so, I am taking the parts of assisting wounded, and preventing more ships from taking men down to their deaths at Davy Jones Locker.
Had your nation not been clearly hostile against non-religious countries, the aid wouldm have been offered to both sides.

I do not feel that I have earned retalitation, but should you so feel, bear in mind that you are sending regular bomb-planes against the harbors of the Dominion. Fortifications and AA artilleri is not exactly unknown, if you take my meaning.

ooc : If you should attack, do it hard, so I can write about the unjust treatment in my History

Stormblod, Father of the Dominion
27-11-2003, 20:04
The Holy Emperor is now safe inside Whittier's territory.
He has accepted the invitation of Whittier to stay there for the duration of the war as a guest.
27-11-2003, 20:05
OOC: Whittier, did you declare war on me?
27-11-2003, 20:09
By doing so, I am taking the parts of assisting wounded, and preventing more ships from taking men down to their deaths at Davy Jones Locker.
Had your nation not been clearly hostile against non-religious countries, the aid wouldm have been offered to both sides.

I do not feel that I have earned retalitation, but should you so feel, bear in mind that you are sending regular bomb-planes against the harbors of the Dominion. Fortifications and AA artilleri is not exactly unknown, if you take my meaning.

ooc : If you should attack, do it hard, so I can write about the unjust treatment in my History

Stormblod, Father of the Dominion

Hostile against nonreligious nations. Where are you getting your false propaganda. Being hostile does not mean we have attacked anyone.
In fact I was the one attacked. First by that Satanist government in Rome and now by militant athiests from the Attican Empire.
The intentions of both Rome and Attica are to force Canales to give up Christianity as its official state religion.
All we did was protest the arrest and torture of an innocent man for political reasons, by the Attican government.
2 of their citizens in Canales committed terrorist atrocities by blowing up a school full of children and blasphemizing the Emperor. The other 3 were accomplices, but they were released to a third party nation since we have no diplomatic contact with Attica. We could not give them over directly to a nation that has attacked us.
We had to publish the charge of blasphemy because the attack on the school did not carry a harsh enough penalty.
27-11-2003, 20:10
OOC: Whittier, did you declare war on me?

I think he did. Did you see his posts?
27-11-2003, 20:11
Canales, you have really stupid propoganda.

Since Whittier is in a state of war with Attica, some Tomahawks will be fired at Whitterian targets, until the Holy Emperor of Canales is surrendered to Attican authority.
27-11-2003, 20:13
Canales, you have really stupid propoganda.

Since Whittier is in a state of war with Attica, some Tomahawks will be fired at Whitterian targets, until the Holy Emperor of Canales is surrendered to Attican authority.

Now you deny that you are trying to force the Empire to renounce its faith in God. Do you deny your evil alliance with Rome.
27-11-2003, 20:15
Yes, and yes. We never allied with Rome. Also, I never tried to remove your religion. I only want to kill your emperor.
Whittier
27-11-2003, 20:17
The first, third, and 7th fleets have left port and are headed to Attica.
The total deployed force consists of 50 battleships, 25 aircraft carriers,
three battle islands, 34 destroyers, 40 cruisers, 25 antiaircraft defense ships, 42 stealth submarines.

12 stealth subs have begun attacking the Attican fleet located in Canales territory.
Whittier
27-11-2003, 20:18
Yes, and yes. We never allied with Rome. Also, I never tried to remove your religion. I only want to kill your emperor.

How many tomohawks did you launch?
27-11-2003, 20:19
By the information we have gathered of the recent communication, we are of the belief that Canles_ has handled unjust, by claiming the freedom of innocent citizens, claiming treason, wich by all rights should not apply to citizens that does not belong to your nation.

I have therefore decided to lend my aid to The Empire of Attica, by caring for wounded soldiers and repairing their ships (the offer has still not ben accepted, mind you).
If they thereafter decide to return to battle, I cannot see it as the responsibility of the Dominion.

And may the that the Attican Empire did initiate the hostile action, but I believe that this would never happened without the unappropriate attention you gave to matters of law in another nation. The war would also never have been started if hostages had been returned safely, wich you had many opportunities to do.
27-11-2003, 20:21
Yes, and yes. We never allied with Rome. Also, I never tried to remove your religion. I only want to kill your emperor.
Our emperor has done nothing violent to you. Nor have we, or are we trying to kill your emperor.
27-11-2003, 20:24
By the information we have gathered of the recent communication, we are of the belief that Canles_ has handled unjust, by claiming the freedom of innocent citizens, claiming treason, wich by all rights should not apply to citizens that does not belong to your nation.

I have therefore decided to lend my aid to The Empire of Attica, by caring for wounded soldiers and repairing their ships (the offer has still not ben accepted, mind you).
If they thereafter decide to return to battle, I cannot see it as the responsibility of the Dominion.

And may the that the Attican Empire did initiate the hostile action, but I believe that this would never happened without the unappropriate attention you gave to matters of law in another nation. The war would also never have been started if hostages had been returned safely, wich you had many opportunities to do.

OOC: They can hardly be considered inappropriate since RL natinns do this stuff all the time. USA for example has sanctions on many nations and has frozen their assets cause the US govt. disagrees with their internal policies and internal actions.

IC: The reason you gave does not justify military action. All we did was freeze their accounts in Canales banks and ban trade between their nation and ours. They responded by illegally and unjustifiably attacking.
27-11-2003, 20:26
By the information we have gathered of the recent communication, we are of the belief that Canles_ has handled unjust, by claiming the freedom of innocent citizens, claiming treason, wich by all rights should not apply to citizens that does not belong to your nation.

I have therefore decided to lend my aid to The Empire of Attica, by caring for wounded soldiers and repairing their ships (the offer has still not ben accepted, mind you).
If they thereafter decide to return to battle, I cannot see it as the responsibility of the Dominion.

And may the that the Attican Empire did initiate the hostile action, but I believe that this would never happened without the unappropriate attention you gave to matters of law in another nation. The war would also never have been started if hostages had been returned safely, wich you had many opportunities to do.

We were not and are not holding hostages.

OOC: Where is everyone getting this "charging them with treason" stuff.
Whittier
27-11-2003, 20:32
By the information we have gathered of the recent communication, we are of the belief that Canles_ has handled unjust, by claiming the freedom of innocent citizens, claiming treason, wich by all rights should not apply to citizens that does not belong to your nation.

I have therefore decided to lend my aid to The Empire of Attica, by caring for wounded soldiers and repairing their ships (the offer has still not ben accepted, mind you).
If they thereafter decide to return to battle, I cannot see it as the responsibility of the Dominion.

And may the that the Attican Empire did initiate the hostile action, but I believe that this would never happened without the unappropriate attention you gave to matters of law in another nation. The war would also never have been started if hostages had been returned safely, wich you had many opportunities to do.

If he does, and you start repairing attican ships while we are at war with them, you will share Attica's fate.
27-11-2003, 20:33
ooc : I consider them unjust, never claimed anything else =)
ic:

"Dominion intelligence has spotted an unknown number of hostile airplanes, heading towards the harbor.
Due to upgrading of weaponry, the Master of Docks realizes that there is only ammunition for 2 of the old models.
The word spread."

"Unidentified aircraft, this is the Dominion. You are heading towards Dominion territory. Change your course!"
No response... perspiration pours from the Master of the Docks...
"Change your course. or you will be the first to taste the fresh cannons of the Dominion! We will not tolerate unknown flight over our terroitory!"
27-11-2003, 20:35
ooc : I consider them unjust, never claimed anything else =)
ic:

"Dominion intelligence has spotted an unknown number of hostile airplanes, heading towards the harbor.
Due to upgrading of weaponry, the Master of Docks realizes that there is only ammunition for 2 of the old models.
The word spread."

"Unidentified aircraft, this is the Dominion. You are heading towards Dominion territory. Change your course!"
No response... perspiration pours from the Master of the Docks...
"Change your course. or you will be the first to taste the fresh cannons of the Dominion! We will not tolerate unknown flight over our terroitory!"
They're not mine. I don't know where your nation is located, and all my aircraft are busy defending my airspace and going after Attican ships in my waters.

OOC: You said I charged them with treason.
I didn't charge them with treason, I charged them with blasphemy. There is a difference. Or so I thought.
27-11-2003, 20:36
OOC: Only 5 Tomahawks, most are aimed at Canales.

IC: The Attican Kaiser, feeling that the utter destruction of the Canelian infrastructure was enough to warrant a cease in hostilities, is moving his fleets back to Attican waters. Air Raids will cease as well. Note, that if your ships enter Attican waters, they will be attacked by the Attican seawall, which has a large number of heavy anti-ship cannon, as well as the Attican fleets.
27-11-2003, 20:37
OOC : Information can be miss-interpretated (eeh... spelling), or warped, just like in any real nation =)
If you consider me just another annoying object in your war, I will withdraw, but I felt the time was ready to try this out. At least i don't godmode =)

:- you did not send B2's to attack the ship ? i must be hallucinating in that case :/ -:
27-11-2003, 20:38
They are not mine either...
27-11-2003, 20:38
Did I godmode?
27-11-2003, 20:39
They are not mine either...

Then who's attacking Hamstermums?
27-11-2003, 20:39
was not meant as an insult, just that i felt i was doing pretty well for a newb. That comment applied to me.
27-11-2003, 20:41
Following the withdrawl of Attican agressors from Canales, Imperial forces are likewise departing the region.
27-11-2003, 20:43
OOC: Only 5 Tomahawks, most are aimed at Canales.

IC: The Attican Kaiser, feeling that the utter destruction of the Canelian infrastructure was enough to warrant a cease in hostilities, is moving his fleets back to Attican waters. Air Raids will cease as well. Note, that if your ships enter Attican waters, they will be attacked by the Attican seawall, which has a large number of heavy anti-ship cannon, as well as the Attican fleets.
We require a permanent peace treaty. We will settle for 5 million in financial reparations though we are clearly entitled to 10 times that amount at least.
But we will forgo it, however, in exchange for an agreement to prevent another incident of miscommunication from causing another war.
The Emperor proposes the establishment of a red line between Canales and Attica to clear up future misunderstandings before they accidentally start wars as happened here.
Whittier
27-11-2003, 20:47
The Whittier fleets have been ordered back to port, with our war aims having been accomplished.
Since Canales says he will push for compensation, we will not pursue it either.
Further, we applaud his proposal for a hotline to clear up future misunderstandings.
Whittier will allocate 150 billion dollars to repair buildings and infrastructure in both Canales and the Attican Empire.
These will be foriegn aid packages and will not have to be paid back.
Whittier
27-11-2003, 20:48
OOC: Only 5 Tomahawks, most are aimed at Canales.

IC: The Attican Kaiser, feeling that the utter destruction of the Canelian infrastructure was enough to warrant a cease in hostilities, is moving his fleets back to Attican waters. Air Raids will cease as well. Note, that if your ships enter Attican waters, they will be attacked by the Attican seawall, which has a large number of heavy anti-ship cannon, as well as the Attican fleets.
We require a permanent peace treaty. We will settle for 5 million in financial reparations though we are clearly entitled to 10 times that amount at least.
But we will forgo it, however, in exchange for an agreement to prevent another incident of miscommunication from causing another war.
The Emperor proposes the establishment of a red line between Canales and Attica to clear up future misunderstandings before they accidentally start wars as happened here.

Your government will be recieving 140 billion dollars for reconstruction.
Whittier
27-11-2003, 20:50
OOC: Only 5 Tomahawks, most are aimed at Canales.

IC: The Attican Kaiser, feeling that the utter destruction of the Canelian infrastructure was enough to warrant a cease in hostilities, is moving his fleets back to Attican waters. Air Raids will cease as well. Note, that if your ships enter Attican waters, they will be attacked by the Attican seawall, which has a large number of heavy anti-ship cannon, as well as the Attican fleets.

The Tomohawks were shot down by Whittier's antimissile defense systems.
Having defeated a filibuster in the Parliament, the Secretary General is sending your nation 30 billion dollars for purposes of reconstruction.
27-11-2003, 20:51
200 Sliponian bombers make their way high above the skies of Canales and begin bombing the areas around known government facilities all through out the country. 2 bombers divert from their course and are sent to go on bombing runs in the capital city.

The bombings begin as the President of Sliponia watches from an underground bunker in preperation for retaliation.
27-11-2003, 20:52
For any damage caused by the Tomahawk attack into Whittier, the Attican Government notifies Whittier to send us a Bill, and we will pay.

Since the Attican government does not know what denomination the 5 million is in, they are somewhat confused. 5 million KLM is a lot of money.

We had a red line in the Attican Embassy, but when you closed it down, it ceased to exist.

There was little damage in the Attican Empire, but any that was caused is expected to be repaired because of the Empire's large spending into Social Welfare and other government spending.

The Attican Empire will pay back the reparations from Whitter regardless, except for the part that will go to the families of the deceased caused by the ICBM attacks. The Aircraft destroyed will be quickly rebuilt, and the damaged Frigates will be repaired at Engelinsel. The Attican Government has been trying to communicate with the Red Cross, but to no avail.
27-11-2003, 20:53
OOC: Is the war over?
Whittier
27-11-2003, 20:55
The Attican Government has been trying to communicate with the Red Cross, but to no avail.

We will notify them and try to locate to those Atticans.
Whittier
27-11-2003, 20:56
OOC: Is the war over?
Since you have attacked Canales, I have declared war on your nation.
For peace, you must agree to the terms demanded by the Canales govt.
27-11-2003, 20:58
For any damage caused by the Tomahawk attack into Whittier, the Attican Government notifies Whittier to send us a Bill, and we will pay.

Since the Attican government does not know what denomination the 5 million is in, they are somewhat confused. 5 million KLM is a lot of money.

We had a red line in the Attican Embassy, but when you closed it down, it ceased to exist.

There was little damage in the Attican Empire, but any that was caused is expected to be repaired because of the Empire's large spending into Social Welfare and other government spending.

The Attican Empire will pay back the reparations from Whitter regardless, except for the part that will go to the families of the deceased caused by the ICBM attacks. The Aircraft destroyed will be quickly rebuilt, and the damaged Frigates will be repaired at Engelinsel. The Attican Government has been trying to communicate with the Red Cross, but to no avail.

I meant a direct line between your palace and mine.

It's in Canalis. They are worth the same as the average currency. You should have no problem paying it, as you supposedly have a frieghtening economy.
27-11-2003, 20:59
200 Sliponian bombers make their way high above the skies of Canales and begin bombing the areas around known government facilities all through out the country. 2 bombers divert from their course and are sent to go on bombing runs in the capital city.

The bombings begin as the President of Sliponia watches from an underground bunker in preperation for retaliation.

Canales demands 50 billion dollars in reparations from teh Sliponian government.
27-11-2003, 21:00
Should the Attican Empire require assistance against the evil forces of religion, The Dominion of Hamstermums gladly easy your burden by treating injured personnel, and assist in refueling and repairing any ships or airplanes that has been damaged.

This will be done on neutral waters, as we do not want any part in the armed conflict.

This way we show our gratitude towards the strong step to denounce the powerhungry religions.

Empty carriers and repaircrafts are awaiting their orders at the Dominion basins.

Stormblod, Father of the Dominion

B2 bombers have attacked the Hamstermums, ships.

ooc: found it =) dont want to be considered a liar at the first RPing. So someone did send airplanes to attack me. No probs if the war is ended tho.. just would be fun to sustain some damages :)
27-11-2003, 21:03
As a colony of Sliponia, we feel it our duty pay this fee, but, as you have not listed the numbers of deaths, injuries, and the degree damages, we are not sure if 50bil. is acceptable.

OOC: You need posted the casualities in advance so posts like this don't happen.
27-11-2003, 21:04
Should the Attican Empire require assistance against the evil forces of religion, The Dominion of Hamstermums gladly easy your burden by treating injured personnel, and assist in refueling and repairing any ships or airplanes that has been damaged.

This will be done on neutral waters, as we do not want any part in the armed conflict.

This way we show our gratitude towards the strong step to denounce the powerhungry religions.

Empty carriers and repaircrafts are awaiting their orders at the Dominion basins.

Stormblod, Father of the Dominion

B2 bombers have attacked the Hamstermums, ships.

ooc: found it =) dont want to be considered a liar at the first RPing. So someone did send airplanes to attack me. No probs if the war is ended tho.. just would be fun to sustain some damages :)

Actually that was done cause I thought your ships were in Canales waters or international waters.
27-11-2003, 21:05
As a colony of Sliponia, we feel it our duty pay this fee, but, as you have not listed the numbers of deaths, injuries, and the degree damages, we are not sure if 50bil. is acceptable.

OOC: You need posted the casualities in advance so posts like this don't happen.

20,000 dead, 35,000 injured. 40 billion in damages to infrastructure and buildings. Including a senior citizens home that was destroyed by a bomb.
27-11-2003, 21:07
As a colony of Sliponia, we feel it our duty pay this fee, but, as you have not listed the numbers of deaths, injuries, and the degree damages, we are not sure if 50bil. is acceptable.

OOC: You need posted the casualities in advance so posts like this don't happen.

20,000 dead, 35,000 injured. 40 billion in damages to infrastructure and buildings. Including a senior citizens home that was destroyed by a bomb.

Money wired.

We hope that our Father nation will not have to be in conflict with your nation again. You must understand that he attack very begrudglingly. The President of Sliponia also apologizes for the bomb destroying the senior citizens home; as you know, there is a federal building near there, which was the target, but the bombers missed.
27-11-2003, 21:10
As a colony of Sliponia, we feel it our duty pay this fee, but, as you have not listed the numbers of deaths, injuries, and the degree damages, we are not sure if 50bil. is acceptable.

OOC: You need posted the casualities in advance so posts like this don't happen.

20,000 dead, 35,000 injured. 40 billion in damages to infrastructure and buildings. Including a senior citizens home that was destroyed by a bomb.

Money wired.

We hope that our Father nation will not have to be in conflict with your nation again. You must understand that he attack very begrudglingly. The President of Sliponia also apologizes for the bomb destroying the senior citizens home; as you know, there is a federal building near there, which was the target, but the bombers missed.

accepted.
Kahta
28-11-2003, 15:59
Kahta supports Attica in the arrest of a teacher who was preaching religion. We are having 100 Million Militia Packages bought for the expected 150 Million civillians who we expect to volenteer in defense of the homeland. The entire Military reserves are being called up, and the country is being mobilized for war. This includes, but is not limited to the entire reserves being deployed to combat units, all manufaturing companies changed over to military prodection, and other changes. All military units are now active and preparing to fight off invaders.

EMP weapons have been cleared for Anti Ballistic Missile uses, and will be used if approved against other targets.

I g2g now, I'll try to get on later.
Kahta
28-11-2003, 18:19
So far 50 Million Able bodied men have enlisted in the Kahtanian National Militia. This will be a force to be dealt with, since the people have pledged to never co-operate with the enemies of the state. In addition there is a Natonalistic Fever going around the country and a small movement has started, to break away from the Attican Empire, but they are mostly the extreme righties (without racist views, as anyone sharing those is now in prison for the next 20 years).
28-11-2003, 23:48
Kahta supports Attica in the arrest of a teacher who was preaching religion. We are having 100 Million Militia Packages bought for the expected 150 Million civillians who we expect to volenteer in defense of the homeland. The entire Military reserves are being called up, and the country is being mobilized for war. This includes, but is not limited to the entire reserves being deployed to combat units, all manufaturing companies changed over to military prodection, and other changes. All military units are now active and preparing to fight off invaders.

EMP weapons have been cleared for Anti Ballistic Missile uses, and will be used if approved against other targets.

I g2g now, I'll try to get on later.
the war is over.
Kahta
30-11-2003, 23:42
It is? Whoops :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: