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A new alliance, the Coalition of Socialist States, has been founded after the brutal wars in communist Likon.
As the international community should know, communist Likon has been assaulted twice in the last year (real time month) and was recently torn apart by a civil war, wich was an aftermath of these assaults. Both invasions were committed by alliances of imperialistic states, and while the true socialists were divided, they made rapid progress and committed untold attrocities. But when the glorious socialist states finally allied, the imperialist swine were beaten and chased down like the dogs they are.

In light of these conflicts the CSS was formed by communist Likon and the armed republic of rebel grots. Recently the confederacy of rosvoll has also joined our ranks. We have just established a new region were all the true socialist states can unite in the never-ending war against the imperialists. We are looking for more nations to join the CSS, as we all need to unite in order to send a clear message to the imperialist pigs, They cannot do whatever they want without consequenses!
The coalition is a military and economic alliance, we defend each other in times of need, and trade is flowing between our countries. If YOU wish to join the fight comrade, post your reply here. If you are a true socialist, willing to lay down your life in the fight against an enemy too terrible to imagine, then step forward comrade. And your government will recieve a telegram with the confirmation and password.
LONG LIVE THE REVOLUTION

Comrades,
how can you ingnore information of such importance?

I hate bumping
but it has to be done

*BUMP*

---As Free Bonstock, still resisting communist rebellion---

"We will destroy you after our civil war is over."

---As Free Bonstock, still resisting communist rebellion---

"We will destroy you after our civil war is over."

You can't just attack them becuase of there alliance type, you will have full legigbilty to attack them once they commit actions of aggresion toward you.

Now now comrades, don't you realize we should not fight the Imperialists, but convert them. You are merely declaring war on all non-communist nations. Your actions have caused quite an upset in my region, just look at what our neighbors have posted in their paper:

"Tyrannical Country of Rebel Grots DECLARES WAR!!!

In recent events, the Communist State Rebel Grots has declared war on all non-communist governments, what will our neighbor Toktun Edem to the west chose to do..."

Despite us being communist, we have chosen to not join this "alliance", however I will be keeping an eye on you...

Sign Danislavko, Commander of Toktun Spetznaz Forces

I hate bumping
but it has to be done

*BUMP*
what dose *BUMP* mean?

I don't understand what values this alliance is suppost to support and uphold?

And joining this pact seems to suppose that the communist states have a centralized leadership with authority to oppress and exploit.

On top of that if there was a centralized leader who joined the pact, it sounds that we need to force the members of the communist state to fight for this pact.

I hate bumping
but it has to be done

*BUMP*
what dose *BUMP* mean?

Getting it on the top page so people can read it.

"We do not see the need for, and hence do not support, a new Socialist Alliance. Many exist already, with the CACE being first and foremost in our eyes.

Warmongering is not tolerated by many nations, regardless of size, longevity or ideology. This is a warning to you, Rebel Grots, to avoid further needless bloodshed."

-Statement by Daniel de Valera, Minister of Foreign Affairs

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Ok... so you just declared war on all nations of the Greater Attican Empire, and many other nations. I have dibs on his southern regions!

The Veritasean government is saddened to hear news of this new "alliance". Alliances are meant to cause countries with similar interests to proper safely, not to attack nations without the same idealogy. Please reconsider your statements before rash actions are taken.

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"I see in your eyes the same fear that would take
the heart of me. There may come a day when
the courage of men fails; when we forsake our
friends and break all bonds of fellowship, but it is
not this day. This day, we fight!”
-the Lord Aragorn, before the final battle for
Veritasean independence

How do i join you in the revolution? In our contry we have pyoure comunism. Lets fight together against the dangerus capitalistic gost.

Public statement by Danislavko:

"People of Toktun Edem, as you know our communist brothers in nations such as chribba have become so desperate to spread their ideals that they have resorted to war. If such actions are taken a stain will placed upon the communist name like never done before! Rebel Grots and Chribba, I plead you. Do not do this, or I will have to give you more of a burden than you can bear..."
*crowd cheers*

Secret IC: Generals Abykan and Rabik gazed out at an air field where 150 Mi-8's were grounded, each filled with 24 Special Forces Spetznaz troops.
Abykan turned to Rabik and said, "Do you think this is the right course to take?"
Rabik replied "Time will tell"...

Secret IC: Mouth wide open, Rabik stared at the sky in awe as a black mass of 200 Ka-52 helicopters hovered down next to the Mi-8's.
Abykan glanced over at his friend and laugned "being accustom to commanding ground forces, 350 helicopters may frighten you."
Realizing what he was doing Rabik diverted his attention back to Abykan
"oh, not at all, i was um, um... do you need this many air craft?"
"I should think so, however it depends on their defenses, of course"
"RPG's and Ak-47's Rabik sarcasticly pondered"
Both men laughed...

OOC: oops (accidently posted same message twice)

Comrades, comrades please!
This alliance is NOT, i repeat NOT, a decleration of war against all non-communist! This is merely an alliance between LEFT-WINGED SOCIALISTS! As we said, communist Likon was attacked several times, we established this coalition to be able to counter the imperialist threat when necessary. This does not mean that we will invade the world!
The region "Coalition of Socialist States" is, however, established, and we are looking for more nations to join the CSS. But we are not n00bs bent on world domination!
We dissapprove of corrupt dictatorships and compulsory comnsumerists, we are peacelovers, but we recognize the very real threat that Imperialism presents.
p.s.
If anyone is getting ideas about an invasion against a UN member nation without reason, please note that my nation uses ork technology, and my allies will not be idle. And please use the following map:
http://www.italycyberguide.com/Geography/regions/images/Sardegna-map.JPG
I'm using the island of sardinia as my nation, only it is a lot bigger. The capital is Cagliari

In recent events, the Communist State Rebel Grots has declared war on all non-communist governments, what will our neighbor Toktun Edem to the west chose to do...

Therefore, we refuse your sue for peace.

rebel grots please do not burden us communist nations by angering imperialists...

I'm NOT declaring war!!!!!
IS THAT UNDERSTOOD?????????
:tantrum:

I'M ONLY CREATING A COALITION IN THE CASE OF A POSSINBLE INVASION! IN WICH CASE THE MEMBERS WOULD HELP EACH OTHER!
THINK NATO!
:tantrum:

communist nations do not need to mass together in one region to "defend" themselves, they should be able to dwell where they would please, this defeats the entire purpose and makes us look puney... I'm still watching you

I'm not telling all communists to unite, I'm just inviting a couple of socialists to join a new alliance. I have no intention of world domination, or creating a new superpower. I just felt it was a good idea for a few nations to help each other out. Of course we don't need an alliance or region for this, but I thuoght it would be more realistic/fun/effective etc.
Honestly comrades, throw me a frickin bone here.

OOC: Oops, posted twice :wink:

Rebel Grots = Ignored, because first he says he declares war, now he says he never did.

Rebel Grots, i may have a stalinistic government, but I don't disgrace my people! You are teetering on the brink of a covert op war my friend... :twisted:

Hookay mister attican empire, show me were I said that "I DECLARE WAR ON THE ENTIRE WORLD" and I'll be happy to oblige and perhaps correct it. I am not a newbie to the game, i have played with seven different nations since early december 2002 (yes, i'm not a lying n00b).
Can't you just let me do my little alliance, prettyplease?

Rebel Grots, proceed at your own free will, you already know the consequences 8)

I gave a little propaganda speech where I mentioned the never-ending war against imperialism, so what?

Now, if you take that as a declaration of war, I may understand that you are *confused?*. Socialism/communism and imperialism/capitalism are, in fact, in never-endig war. NOT just physically, it's a metaphor. The ideals of these beliefs are completely opposite, and conflict is imminent. But I do NOT mean armed conflict.
If you want me to explain any of the terminology I'd be more than happy to.


Sorry, the last statement was uncalled for, I guess I'm just a bit mad.

Rebel Grots, please do proceed, it will be most fun :D

If the USSR is not in this alliance, as they are not true socialists and are crude, Stalinist imperialist, The Soviet Union will join this alliance, and will provide chemical weapons, highly specialized reconaissance forces, and a psychologically pressing propaganda network to aid in conflicts, when necessary. But only if the USSR is not in this alliance.

Ahem... a pact which is MUCH larger than yours alrady exists ;)

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=91747&highlight=

yes,yes,the point is that I didn't want to be part of a huge alliance. This coalition offers a smaller, moe efficient, better organised coalition. The only members we have are:
the armed republic of rebel grots
the united socialist states of communist Likon
The confederacy of rosvoll

we are only looking for some more nations to join the military and economic coalition.

Quote, speech by President of the Republic of Kristinuria:

" These are troubled times. As we struggle to maintain the peaceful, sensible yet open way of life that has characterised Kristinuria through the ages, we find global peace and prosperity threatened once more by the aggressive rhetoric of representatives of an ideology masquerading as humanity but practicing inhumanity, hatred and folly. Grots, Likon and Rosvoll have declared their intention to pursue their self-chosen conflict with what hey see as the capitalist world without relenting. We Kristinurians have never classified ourselves in such crass terms, but we have no doubt that these nations would include us in this category. To their leaders, I would say that they will find Kristinuria both willing and able to defend our borders against any threat, and to offer assistance to fellow nations threatened by aggression - let us never forget our glorious national motto. To you, my own people, I would say that this - what better justification could we get of the correctness of our recent heavy investments in national defence than these words of hatred, spite and threats."

Quote from speech by president Gazkhull

"Comrades, many other glorious nations including fellow socialists have critisised our policies lately. To them I say but this, we have no intention of invading our comrades. Many times the tides of war have caught our nation and we have been swept about, but each and every time a capitalistic/imperialistic nation has been the agressor. There is no denying this fact. Their answer to things that they do not like is simple, bomb it! We, on the other hand, do not propose an assault on every non-commie nation. Hell, we're not even commies ourselves. All we want is to be able to defend ourselves and our socialist comrades.
Some countries fear we will attack them without cause. We are not warmongerers, many pacts and alliances of this nature have been formed in the past without incident. Why now, you say? The answer is simple, the imperialists do not want us to unite! They wish for us to be scattered, divided, leaderless, so that they can take us out one by one. Well boy have I got news for them, we won't let them!
*cheering*


(in this speech the president mentions imperialists, please note that we don't classify non-commies as imperialists)

"So", says the Kristinurian Ambassador with a sly smile as he sidles over to his Grotian colleague, "Did your President make up his mind yet about whether he wants to threaten the world or reassure it?".

The Grotian ambassador supresses an embarrassed grimace, and replies "Well, hopefully these last statements have cleared the matter up. Misunderstandings among friends are unfortunate."

"As are misunderstandings among imperialist dogs and socialist brethren" replies the Kristinurian ambassador. "Ruffled a few feathers he did, and those feathers will I fear remain ruffled for some time on. But I am sure the President will be extra mindful of his phrasing in the future. Anyway, as always, the politicians only ever care about their own public image and it is up to humble servants such as ourselves to make it our constant toil to sweep up the pieces, never complaining of our hardships. Those salmon canapees any good?"

Ambassador Heinrich tried some more of the salmon canapees and looked at his colleague. "Propaganda has it's uses, but it's damn hard to clean up after it." he poured himself some more pure scotch single-malt whisky and said. "I'm sure that the president wished to assure the world that there is no pact of agression, but as usual he screwed up." Heinrich liked the Kristurnian ambassador, he was a solid, dependable man, and they both shared the same burden, stupid politicians. "there are rumors flying about" He said. "people think that president Gazkhull was involved in the death of the former president waaghman. Waaghman was mad, but it was a horrible incident. He died in a tragic "accident" involving a speeding escelator, but all the hubbub sorrounding his death was overshadowed by the first invasion of our ally, communist Likon. But now, those rumors are back. I don't know what to think. President Gazkhull is a good man, but a terrible international politician. He's getting the entire world on his neck." Heinrich sighed and took another sip of his drink. "Any extra-salty peanuts left?"

You realise Communism and Socialism are very diffrent ideologies right?

"No" replied the Kristinurian ambassador, "but try some of these goose liver pate rolls, they're really not bad". Helping himself to a glass of wine, he paused reflectively while rolling the glass under his nose, before continuing. "You know, it would help as well if our esteemed President would stay off the Churchillian circuit for ten minutes. Now, regarding your President, our intelligence chappies tells us basically the same story. As likeable, solid and dependable a homicidal maniac as you can find. Psychotic, but fair. Can be relied upon to maintain internal cohesion, by means of falling elevators or otherwise, they say. But international statements of this kind, that's something else entirely. Makes everybody jumpy. Makes the politicians grab for the microphones. Makes the Generals' trigger fingers itch. 73 Latour, I'd say. One of my favorites."

Heinrich was impressed, this ambassador really knew his stuff, both politics and wine. Too bad he had forgotten his colleagues name. He wrinkled his nose at the goose liver pate rolls, and took a bit of the plain chocolate bar he always had in his shirt pocket. "We could come to a mutually benefitial agreement you know." He said. "Our "glorious" president thinks of you as a sensible, fair and comradely nation. If we cooperate and play our cards right, we could turn this to both of ours, I mean our countries, benefit."


OOC: I know the difference between socialism and communism.
And the solid, dependable man heinrich liked was the ambassador, not the president.

OOC: Oh! about the difference between socialism/communism here's an interesting thingy. :lol:
say you're a farmer, and....
Socialism:
you have 2 cows, the state takes one and gives it to your neighbour.
Communism:
you have two cows, the state takes them and gives you milk
Beaurocracy:
you have two cows, the state shoots one, milks the other and pour out the milk
Fascism:
you have two cows, the state takes them and sells your milk
Nazism:
you have two cows, the state takes them and shoots you
Anarchy:
you have two cows, they run away
Capitalism:
you have two cows, you sell one and buy a bull.

cheers
oh, and *BUMP*

Ambassador von Klinckerhofen smiled genially at these words. "My friend, I would urge you to advise your president not to make any hasty public announcements to this effect. In the present political climate, any such initiative would be bound to be met with polite but firm rebuff. Might be a bit embarrassing to both sides really. No, much better if our respective masters simply leave one another in peace for the time being." The ambassadors gaze followed a highly attractive waitress as she passed, carrying a tray of pastries. "I say, I wouldn't mind sinking my teeth into a couple of those delicious buns" he observed.

Lately, many nations have "dissagreed" with our and our allies principals. The nation of Hjornevik has, not yet openly, declared war on our Region, but waits until his allies are ready. The only reason for attack is our principles. This shows the true reason of making the CSS. To protect each other! (cheers) Alone we are as hard as stones, together, we are a mountain! I say to the nations who want to join our ranks. All you must do is contact our founder, The Rebel Grots, and ask to join. Remember people of Rosvoll, we are a peace loving nation, in a peace loving region, but we do not tolerate threats and like from others, and we will defend ourselves, even if "I don't have an axe big enough or this one" (cheers)


OOC: Yes I am a newbie, so I don't know exactly how to do this.

Lately, many nations have "dissagreed" with our and our allies principals. The nation of Hjornevik has, not yet openly, declared war on our Region, but waits until his allies are ready. The only reason for attack is our principles. This shows the true reason of making the CSS. To protect each other! (cheers) Alone we are as hard as stones, together, we are a mountain! I say to the nations who want to join our ranks. All you must do is contact our founder, The Rebel Grots, and ask to join. Remember people of Rosvoll, we are a peace loving nation, in a peace loving region, but we do not tolerate threats and like from others, and we will defend ourselves, even if "I don't have an axe big enough or this one" (cheers)


OOC: Yes I am a newbie, so I don't know exactly how to do this.

Lately, many nations have "dissagreed" with our and our allies principals. The nation of Hjornevik has, not yet openly, declared war on our Region, but waits until his allies are ready. The only reason for attack is our principles. This shows the true reason of making the CSS. To protect each other! (cheers) Alone we are as hard as stones, together, we are a mountain! I say to the nations who want to join our ranks. All you must do is contact our founder, The Rebel Grots, and ask to join. Remember people of Rosvoll, we are a peace loving nation, in a peace loving region, but we do not tolerate threats and like from others, and we will defend ourselves, even if "I don't have an axe big enough or this one" (cheers)


OOC: Yes I am a newbie, so I don't know exactly how to do this.

Rosvoll, I hope you knoe that you just posted thrice. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


And no, you do not need to comtact specifically me, just any member nation, and your appliance will be discussed between all the members.

IC: Ambassador Heinrich smiled, this colleague knew everything, politics, wine, whomen, food, irony and sarcasm. He wondered if von Klinckerhofen had understood his hint about his plans about seizing power for the good of the people. No matter, he had contacted the Kristinurian government, general Herman was completing the final arrangements, and everything was proceeding to plan. Damn politicians, to degrade a man like him to an ambassador, they would all pay soon, he swore on it.

OOC: Oh! about the difference between socialism/communism here's an interesting thingy. :lol:
say you're a farmer, and....
Socialism:
you have 2 cows, the state takes one and gives it to your neighbour.
Communism:
you have two cows, the state takes them and gives you milk
Beaurocracy:
you have two cows, the state shoots one, milks the other and pour out the milk
Fascism:
you have two cows, the state takes them and sells your milk
Nazism:
you have two cows, the state takes them and shoots you
Anarchy:
you have two cows, they run away
Capitalism:
you have two cows, you sell one and buy a bull.

cheers
oh, and *BUMP*

Scarely accurate...

Statement from The Conductor of Communist Likon to the World Press

Lately the reasons for the creation of our new alliance has fallen into question. This new alliance is to help protect the smaller (and larger) Socialist, and Communist nations who are under attack in this Capitalist dominated world of ours.
As Communists we are constantly at war with Imperialists, but war is not a time of people shooting at eachother, war is the conflict between two seperate viewpoints.
So through the refusal to trade, the refusal to accept the Capitalist governments domination over us, perhaps by opposition through the barrel of a gun in the worse case, but mostly through refusal to believe that the world cannot be changedd for the better.
Anyone who cannot realise that war against Imperialism is not always through military means i pose you this question, what are you doing running a country?
General Iosef, Conductor of Communist Likon

We take note that you view the whole spectrum of interaction with states of a different viewpoint than your own, not just the military, as essentially a war. Is this meant to be reassuring? :D

On the pretext of going for the buns, ambassador von Klinckerhofen made his excuses to Heinrich. He was already mulling over the report he clearly had to dispatch to capital that same evening. It was apparent from Heinrichs words that trouble might be brewing among the Grots. He wondered if Heinrich had understood from his response that there could be no question of Kristinuria tying itself directly or indirectly to their alliance, and from his lack of response to his hints about internal going-ons that his country certainly could not be expected to do anything as fraught with risk as to engage in actions that could only be construed as blatant meddling in the internal affairs of other countries. It was not difficult to imagine the current President's reaction if it was discovered that Kristinuria had actively sponsored a failed coup against him, it would constitute more or less an act of war in fact. Personally, of course, he sympathised with his colleague, whom he regarded as essentially upright, decent and capable. To see him propelled to a position of high influence in a hitherto problematical nation was an appealing prospect. But he was certain that his government would never seriously consider such a course of action, and he was determined not to be drawn on the subject. And who knows, perhaps he had misunderstood heinrich's hints, though he was somehow sure he hadn't.

Heinrich watched von Klinckerhofen follow the waitress, he smiled. But his smile turned into a frown when he thought about the balant refuses to assist his plans. This was for the people, THE PEOPLE! Couldn't they understand? He rose from the table, went out the door and stepped into his limousine. "Take me home Hans" he told the driver.

Private Klaus watched the ambassador get into the car from the roof of a nearby office building. The plan was in motion. THERE! The car had stopped, as planned, he had the ambassador's head in the sight of his sniper rifle. this was what he had been trained to do, find the target, take aim, lock, *FIRE*

Ambassador Heinrich looked at his driver, Hans, in annoyance. Hans was staring at him as though he had risen from the grave, as though he should be dead. "Why did you stop just now Hans?" He asked. Hans shok his head. "Engine trouble", he mumbled and got out of he car. After a sigarette he came back and started driving again. Heirich was puzzled.

Private Wulf breathed out a sigh of relief and wiped the sweat from his forehead. The ambassador was alive, but it had been a close call. He put his silenced pistol away, hoisted the body of the dead sniper onto his shoulders and started down the stairs.

god I really hate doing this. :cry:
*bumpetibump*

NO, NO PLEASE!
*BUMP*
NOOOOOOOOOOoooooooo...........

Agent Neumann of the Kristinurian Secret Service lowered his binoculars. He had been following Wulf for some days. Having recovered from the dazzling series of events he had just witnessed, it was clear to him what had just transpired. Hurriedly, he made his way to ambassador von Klinckerhofen's residence.

von Klinckerhofen listened attentively to Neumann's report. Having first called, and woken, his embassy secretary, ordering him to get over to the embassy pronto and get the classified communication system up and working, he paused to consider the matter. It seemed far from certain that his colleague was even aware that an attempt on his life had taken place, and who knew if this Wulf character would tell him. The fact that the car had stopped indicated that his driver was in on it. It was clear that danger had not passed. On the other hand, it was also clear that he was being protected. It was abundantly clear that they were witnessing some severe grotian politicla infighting. He made his decision.

"Stay on Wulf's trail" he ordered Neumann. "But be sure to keep a low profile. We can't afford to get involved in this, but I don't want to see the ambassador dead. Got it?" Neumann nodded, and left.

von Klinckerhofen then considered his further options. He would have liked to warn Heinrich, but of course he could not do so by phone, and nor could he plausibly come calling at this hour. No - there was nothing else for it, he'd have to wager that this Wulf character could keep up the protection, and try to get a few words with Heinrich the next morning, at the George Bush Memorial Reception.

Grand General Herman Krieger took another puff at his cigar. He had just been reading through the reports from his agents. "Attempted assasination, ambassador Heinrich?" It seemed someone knew what Heinrich and himself were cooking up, he mused. Good, that made it all a lot more challenging. what did he care if Heinrich got wacked, he was a liability anyway. He blew another smoke-ring and propped his feet up on his desk. He wondered if it were the agents of the president himself who were after Heinrich. He had almost expected that. The president hadn't gotten where he was by being careless, neither had Herman. He glanced at his troop's statistics again. The former "royal" guard were loyal to the president, so was the home guard in the capital and the presidents private army. The rest was Herman's. Herman smiled, "Everything is proceeding as I have foreseen" He said in his best evil emperor voice. He chuckled a bit, blew another smoke ring, and settled in for his afternoon nap.

Private Wulf was tired, but not exhausted. He sat in the window of his hotel room, directly opposite the street to ambassador Heinrich's room. He clutched the former sniper's sniper rifle in his hands and sat, unmoving, and waited.........

Meanwhile the president was enjoying his evening jacuzzi. he fondly stroked one of the many whomen sorrounding him, and frowned at the many armed guards, telling them to leave. they made everything so military and formal...

Lately, many nations have "dissagreed" with our and our allies principals. The nation of Hjornevik has, not yet openly, declared war on our Region, but waits until his allies are ready. The only reason for attack is our principles. This shows the true reason of making the CSS. To protect each other! (cheers) Alone we are as hard as stones, together, we are a mountain! I say to the nations who want to join our ranks. All you must do is contact our founder, The Rebel Grots, and ask to join. Remember people of Rosvoll, we are a peace loving nation, in a peace loving region, but we do not tolerate threats and like from others, and we will defend ourselves, even if "I don't have an axe big enough or this one" (cheers)


OOC: Yes I am a newbie, so I don't know exactly how to do this.


I am stunned to read what this nation says about my loved nation Hjornevik. I must say that I did not expected this from a so called friend
occ: I know him in real person
in: I must confess that I was thinking of going to war agents him, but not because he is a socialist! (I am working to become 1 myself). And when i read this post I decided that this can not continue and if he don’t post a official excuse I will solve this conflict with military power. And that is NOT what I want.


Strength through wisdom
Hjornevik

I am officially sorry. I really see what misunderstandings can lead to. We do not wish for an armed conflict, as we are already engaged in one

Strenght through wisdom, not war.
Rosvoll

Thank you. I hope that this will be for our best..

Strength through wisdom
Hjornevik