NationStates Jolt Archive


Nuclear Program

19-11-2003, 18:07
I'm starting a nuclear program, because I need it to built high tech nucleair powerplants for all the industry that's in our beautiful country. I can assure everyone that's is merely for technological purposes. Because we're such a young country people may be fooled by our looks. Kid you not.

Thank you.
19-11-2003, 18:08
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19-11-2003, 18:09
yeah, we're all uneducated here so blame it all on me
19-11-2003, 18:11
I smell a NOOB fest. Listen kid........You spell nuclear like I spell it and because you are so young in the game you couldn't possess them anyway.
So shut up you godmoding noob.
Credonia
19-11-2003, 18:12
you do realize that you cannot build nukes until your a little older right
Froggyliciousness
19-11-2003, 18:12
Great Blah Gross Domestic Product
Population: 5,000,000
Civil Rights: Unheard Of
Economy: Thriving
GDP per Capita: $20,000
GDP: $100,000,000,000
National Budget: $18,216,000,000

Percentage of GDP Spent on Defense: 3.1%
Percentage of Budget Spent on Defense: 17%
Military Budget: $3,096,720,000


Heh heh, I'll help you with your nuclear project....


*"GodMod 2003" nuclear missile silently launches from the FroggyWorld Offense/Defense Station*
19-11-2003, 18:16
you guys can't read. I said that i wanted to build nuclear power plants I never mentioned anything about nukes. And you are calling yourselves worldleaders? get a life.
Shildonia
19-11-2003, 18:19
you do realize that you cannot build nukes until your a little older right

That's right. He can however begin researching them, which is preferable to just claiming to have obtained them from a passing hobo.

The Peoples Republic congratulates you on your attempts at splitting the atom, but we warn against using this equipment for military purposes. If you do this we may be forced to take action to protect ourselves.
19-11-2003, 18:20
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19-11-2003, 18:22
I believe "nuclear power" is different from "nuclear bombs". Nuclear power is highly efficient, cheaper than, say, fossil fuels, and it's very useful in scientific research. We are willing to halp fund you to the extent of +C50,000,000 (that's $5mil USD) in order to further extend your scientific research.
Cybernez
19-11-2003, 18:29
What will you do with the nuclear waste? Radiation? Drop it into nature? This will have concequenses on us, humans, too
19-11-2003, 18:33
The People's Republic of Great Blah is a tiny, economically powerful nation

we'll think of something. And nuclear weapons? Maybe later, but I don't think I'll have a problem with that because there's plenty industry is my country that I don't have a problem with aquiring the technology that is needed.
Credonia
19-11-2003, 20:58
you guys can't read. I said that i wanted to build nuclear power plants I never mentioned anything about nukes. And you are calling yourselves worldleaders? get a life.

OOC: I KNOW what you said, and i was just making a point. Now to set one thing straight, I am a good world leader. it takes a good world leader to put together a 17+ nation alliance which I am currently doing. it takes a world leader such as myself to establish the country as a naton that will come to the aid of all who need it.

Now if you want to attack me or anyone else for just stating the facts, then go right ahead but do so on your nations grave. Other nations would not be so forgiving for such remarks meant to be insults.
19-11-2003, 21:00
you guys can't read. I said that i wanted to build nuclear power plants I never mentioned anything about nukes. And you are calling yourselves worldleaders? get a life.

OOC: I KNOW what you said, and i was just making a point. Now to set one thing straight, I am a good world leader. it takes a good world leader to put together a 17+ nation alliance which I am currently doing. it takes a world leader such as myself to establish the country as a naton that will come to the aid of all who need it.

Now if you want to attack me or anyone else for just stating the facts, then go right ahead but do so on your nations grave. Other nations would not be so forgiving for such remarks meant to be insults.

And to prove his Point:

HE IS A GOOD WORLD LEADER
Crookfur
19-11-2003, 21:06
Actually there is nothing wrong with starting a small civilian nuclear research program (after all its not as if the info isn't around if he plays modern tech) infrastructure might be an issue at soem stage but in the beginning some small univerity projects etc that slowly biuld up is a good way of doing it.

Personally i wouldn't have gone with nuclear power, we did have some plants in our younger days but they got superceeded by alcohol/biogass plants and then tidal generators (being an island in the north atlantic gives us plenty of sea and wind power).
Drakonian Imperium
19-11-2003, 21:18
The Drakonian Imperium would be willing to share it own advanced nuclear technology, if certain assurances were given that Great Blah will not use the technology for Nuclear Weapons. We assure Great Blah, that if they do use such technology for Weapons, the consequences will not be to their liking.

The Imperium, protests the use of all Weapons of Mass Destruction, and will do everything in it's power to stop the proliferation of such destructive weapons. The Imperium, itself has long since ended it's own Nuclear, Biological, and Chemical Weapons programs, and while we still possess the knowledge and technology to build such weapons we have destroyed all we possessed and ended all research in those areas.

In closing, the Imperium would be more than glad to provide it's Advanced Nuclear Power technology to better the lives of the people of Great Blah. We can even arrange for the indepentant Imperial Engineering Corporation to build the facilities.

Drakonian Diplomatic Corps.
located in Drako Throne,
capitol of the Grand Dominion of Drakonian Imperium

*Easily intercepts and destroys Froggyliciousness' "GodMod 2003" Missile*

OOC: A good leader, does not insult others (Blah), and knows better than to bite at such insults (Credonia).
19-11-2003, 21:28
Great Blah Gross Domestic Product
Population: 5,000,000
Civil Rights: Unheard Of
Economy: Thriving
GDP per Capita: $20,000
GDP: $100,000,000,000
National Budget: $18,216,000,000

Percentage of GDP Spent on Defense: 3.1%
Percentage of Budget Spent on Defense: 17%
Military Budget: $3,096,720,000


Heh heh, I'll help you with your nuclear project....


*"GodMod 2003" nuclear missile silently launches from the FroggyWorld Offense/Defense Station*


How can I get all that information? I like to know that information of my country. Sorry for my english. I'm spanish :P
Credonia
19-11-2003, 21:33
Great Blah Gross Domestic Product
Population: 5,000,000
Civil Rights: Unheard Of
Economy: Thriving
GDP per Capita: $20,000
GDP: $100,000,000,000
National Budget: $18,216,000,000

Percentage of GDP Spent on Defense: 3.1%
Percentage of Budget Spent on Defense: 17%
Military Budget: $3,096,720,000


Heh heh, I'll help you with your nuclear project....


*"GodMod 2003" nuclear missile silently launches from the FroggyWorld Offense/Defense Station*


How can I get all that information? I like to know that information of my country. Sorry for my english. I'm spanish :P

Go to this website: http://www.esyn.org/SOTA/NationStates.html
Drakonian Imperium
19-11-2003, 21:36
OOC: Or here: http://www.pipian.com/stuffforchat/gdpcalc.php I think I like yours better, Credonia.
19-11-2003, 21:41
we have used nuclear power pretty much from the start, getting rid of nuclear waste by making it disappear into a salt mine

we are however currently busy switching to fusion power (the tech for which was kindly provided by taka)

we too however agree that WMD's are bad, therefore we will not construct nuclear, biological, chemical or thermonuclear weapons (tough low-yield fusion bombs will eventually be replacing conventional bombs, but low-yield as in slightly higher then the average bomb and a lot smaller)
Credonia
19-11-2003, 21:42
heh :D 8)
HPSauce
19-11-2003, 21:42
How large old should you be before you consider nuclear weapons? My population is only about 110,000,000 but that is almost double the populations of real world France and Britain which also have nukes...
Credonia
19-11-2003, 21:43
personally id say a popuation of about 50-70 million should b larg enough to create and support ten or twenty or so
19-11-2003, 21:45
Our nation will gladly provide uranium for enrichment and techs to help you in your endevors. Just always remeber who helps you.
19-11-2003, 21:46
personally id say a popuation of about 50-70 million should b larg enough to create and support ten or twenty or so

Personally for NS purposes i'd say closer to 100 million
Credonia
19-11-2003, 21:48
Credonia has 155 million people and we have 420+ ICBM's
19-11-2003, 21:50
Credonia has 155 million people and we have 420+ ICBM's

Hmm. Thats a hell of a lot for a small country. as long as not all 420 are in silos or active etc, or you would need a huge defense budget to maintian them and guard them.
Drakonian Imperium
19-11-2003, 21:51
How large old should you be before you consider nuclear weapons? My population is only about 110,000,000 but that is almost double the populations of real world France and Britain which also have nukes...

The Imperium advise against your nation researching and building nuclear weapons as we may be forced to act in our own defense. We do not take lightly the protection of our civilian populace, as several nations have discovered. Be for warned.

Drakonian Diplomatic Corps.
located in Drako Throne,
capitol of the Grand Dominion of Drakonian Imperium

OOC: I personally would say more around 200 Mil. The Imperium itself didnot develop them till sometime after 500 Mil. (we did have Biological and Chemical Weapons before then), but we quickly ended all such programs.

Please, not that ICBMs are only missiles, they are not nuclear weapons. ICBM are usually however equipped with Nuclear Warhead. The Imperium, itself uses ICBM as a means to launch long-range conventional weapons such as Cruise Missiles.
Credonia
19-11-2003, 21:53
OOC: heh, well check out credonia's military http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=84639
19-11-2003, 21:53
OOC: I personally would say more around 200 Mil. The Imperium itself didnot develop them till sometime after 500 Mil. (we did have Biological and Chemical Weapons before then), but we quickly ended all such programs.


Another nation in teh Empire is over 700 million, and still has no official nuclear program. Personally, i don't see the need for them. It just ruins RPs.
Drakonian Imperium
19-11-2003, 22:00
Another nation in teh Empire is over 700 million, and still has no official nuclear program. Personally, i don't see the need for them. It just ruins RPs.

OOC: Exactly, but if RPed well they can make the RP all the more interesting.

I for instance was able to get the allies of an enemy to end their alliance by instigating a near nuclear war. The Imperium suffer two direct hit on minor cities and one hit in the Caribbean (our exellent Missile Defense Network with allied air support was able to shoot down over 200 other nuclear missiles). Now my enemy is left to fend off my and my own allies armies as we move to liberate my enemy's nation.

Still many RPs end in ignore fest after full-scale nuclear war breaks out.
Credonia
19-11-2003, 22:06
it doesnt ruin RP's in fact i makes it harder for a nation to attack with nukes especially if there is a formidible nuclear deterrent present. It adds a twist to the RP
19-11-2003, 22:32
No, i'm sorry but it does ruin Rps.

Peopel nuke everyone within minutes of a war breaking out. I have yet to see anyone RP a nuclear strike properly. IT jsut turns into a big ignore fest as DI said. Best to stick to conventional strategic strikes and assorted cruise missile payloads.
Credonia
19-11-2003, 22:42
No, i'm sorry but it does ruin Rps.

People nuke everyone within minutes of a war breaking out. I have yet to see anyone RP a nuclear strike properly. It jsut turns into a big ignore fest as DI said. Best to stick to conventional strategic strikes and assorted cruise missile payloads.


ACTUALLY credonia entered into a conflict some time ago that took about a week or so. It was a gradual buildup of tension. i'll furnish the link if u want proof ;-) nukes werent used until the VERY end, and it just so happened that all hostilities ended abruptly after thier use and there hasnt been one since.
19-11-2003, 22:45
IME nukes have ruined RPs because they have been used incorrectly. Best to stick to strategic stuff.

Otherwise you get:

<Country A> I launch 20 ICBMs with 500 Megaton warheads at your captial.

<Country B> My ABM defenes shoot them all down. I launch 40 ICBMs with 1 Gigaton warheads at you.

<Country A> God-modder, you can't shoot them all down. IGNORED.
Credonia
19-11-2003, 22:50
true, but if your having an a good RP with good RPers then that for the most part wouldnt happen
19-11-2003, 22:53
I've yet to be involved with anyone who can RP nukes well.
19-11-2003, 22:55
OOC: Shildonia, would you have any OOC complaint about me assisting him in Nuclear research?
Credonia
19-11-2003, 23:05
I've yet to be involved with anyone who can RP nukes well.

ur talking to someone who can ;) (moi)