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Ferrussian Diplomatic Negotiations

Ferrussia
19-11-2003, 06:08
OOC: This is the official thread for most, if not all, Ferrussian diplomatic negotiations. If you're interested in opening diplomatic relations with Ferrussia, post OOCly in this thread and I'll reply as soon as possible.

At current, I only RP with modern/very close future tech (2010/2020 tops), but aside from that I'd be happy to open relations with any nation - good, bad, communist, whatever. Opening relations doesn't guarantee GOOD relations, but that's not the point of doing it.

IC:

Message to the Omzian and Clan Smoke Jaguar Embassies
Kiev, Ferrussia

The People's Republic of Ferrussia would be most honored if an ambassador or delegate could be sent to a diplomatic arrangement, hosted by the President, to be held later this month. The primary issue of the arrangement will be the establishment of additional alliance and trade aggrements between our great countries. More information will be freely disclosed upon confirmation of your willingness to participate in what Ferrussia hopes to be a momentous occasion in our history and yours.

Our deepest condolences to the brave souls being lost on the great Omzian homeland. Our prayers are with you, your struggles are constanly on our minds and in our hearts.

Thank you.


Secretary of Foreign Affairs,
Aleksey Sergeyevich Kasyanov
Clan Smoke Jaguar
19-11-2003, 06:20
Message to Ferrussian Embasy
We would be most honored to partake in these discussions. Considering the nature of this arrangement, we will be sending the head of our diplomatic corps, Ambassador Felix Kotare, to participate. We look forward to the occasion.
Omz222
19-11-2003, 07:03
OOC:

Tag, gotta to go sleep now. Post later.
Omz222
20-11-2003, 01:41
Unencrypted Diplomatic Message to Ferrussian Embassy

Indeed, it has been long times. From our relation in the RGGA organization, from how we fought in the Fyreheartian Civil War, and from not long ago -- support for us in the unjustified invasion by Sniper Country.

Despite war, we are honoured to be invited to this discussion along with one of our other close allies. We will send Ambassador Hone A. Kurkan, a well-known member of the Foreign Affairs Diplomatic Corps, to participate in the discussion. Heavy escorts and protections will be with this ambassador. Infact, we already sketched up what it seems to be ideas for a roadmap -- the roadmap for the future of the Ferrussian-Clan Smoke Jaguar-Omzian Democratic Republic relations.

Godspeed, we will see you there.

--Embassy of Omzian Democratic [Federal] Republic to Ferrussia,
Diplomatic Corps of Omzian Democratic [Federal] Republic,
Omzian Democratic Federal Republic.
Ferrussia
20-11-2003, 07:29
Message to the Omzian and Clan Smoke Jaguar Embassies
Kiev, Ferrussia

Considering the wartime situation present, we will completely understand any required personal and military escorts, within reason. If ambassadors or representatives are being sent from overseas, we'd be happy to accomidate their plane and up to a full squadron of fighter escorts, if deemed necessary.

Bringing your own propositions and ideas is not only welcomed, but encouraged. If possible for all parties, the discussions will begin within the week, but it is fully understood if escort or other logistical measures force the date back. (OOC: I'm not going to state a RL time to start, because it will simply start as soon as everyone ICly makes it.)

Accomidations will be made for the representatives and associated staff to room in the Presidential (Mariinsky) Palace (http://www.president.gov.ua/eng/president/mariinsky/), where the summit on the now-dubbed "Tri-State Alliance" will take place. Ferrussian-made armored limousines and an associated police/military escort will be provided from the airport if requested.

Your generous presence will be anticipated. Thank you for allowing this great step in our mutual history.

May you be delivered from this time of strife.


Secretary of Foreign Affairs,
Aleksey Sergeyevich Kasyanov
Ferrussia
21-11-2003, 04:18
(OOC: In response to a telegram I recieved, and as a convenient BUMP for Omz and CSJ to RP their ambassador arrivals:)

IC:

Secure transmission to the People's Republic of Sliponia - Department of Foreign Affairs

We are highly interested in your offer to attend diplomatic talks in Kiev. Specifically, the attendance of a representative to the "Tri-State Alliance" talks will have to be debated between ourselves and the other attending members. However, we have found what we feel to be a viable solution.

Should you be interested, you could send a representative to the Presidential Palace to conduct negotiations between our countries, specifically regarding a.) establishing an official status between our nations, b.) the mutual construction of embassies in eachothers' nations, and c.) the possibility of a joint alliance. Having a representative avaliable for such proceedings would be both invaluable to our nations' relations, and provide the possibility of joining the Tri-State Alliance talks immediately, should the action be approved by the other attending members.

Regardless of your attendence to said talks, we would most graciously accept your prescence in Kiev. We remember your brave efforts against the TOW in Fyreheart, and in these times of wars and treachery, good, honest allies are scarce.

(OOC: See the above message for specifics about escorts and location and such, I don't want to make this post any longer by copy and pasting those in.)

Best wishes, and we hope to see you soon.


Secretary of Foreign Affairs,
Aleksey Sergeyevich Kasyanov
Omz222
21-11-2003, 04:31
Nanuara Military Airport, Northwestern Omz222

A modified Gulfstream V jet took off, carrying Ambassador H. Kurkan. The Gulfstream V -- modified with an ECM suite, was all loaded. It will also have a few escorts -- 2 F/A-22C Raptor fighters, to be exact. It was night when the aircraft is taking off -- as usual.

"This is Control Tower. Clearance to takeoff at Runway 2A."

The small, sleek aircraft, with an Omzian flag and the message "Omzian Democratic Republic Diplomatic Corps" painted on the fuselage, moved its small body from the tarmac on the airport, and taxied itself onto the runway. Suddenly, a violent roar came from the engines, and the plane glided along the wind. With a "v-room", it took off, kicking its speed. Its small lights can be seen, flashing... flashing.

The 2 escorts followed, taking off from the runways.

*************

Ambassador H. Kurkan sat on the leather chair of the Gulfstream. Feeling very confortable, serious, but worried, he took a sip from a cup of coffee. "Well, hope this will go well," he spoke to an aide beside him, a young Diplomatic Corps personnel.

"Certainly hope so, pertty safe here," the aide glanced back and replied. taking a cup of apple juice from a coffee table. "Long flight soon, better get yourself organized sir," he recommended before he enjoyed himself on the recliner.

"Certainly so. The caffine's keepin' me up pertty good..."
Ferrussia
21-11-2003, 05:05
(OOC: Just to let you know, Ferrussia is essentially Ukraine - different conditions, neighbors, and worldwide location, but for all intents and purposes, use a Ukranian map as the Ferrussian one.)

Regional Air Traffic Control (RATC) - Crimean Peninsula
Sevastopol, Ferrussia

The three Omzian planes began to show on radar far before they hit Ferrussian airspace, but the air traffic controller contacted them immediately anyways. He had been specifically put in charge of this flight, and due to it's importance, it would not be turned over to the local Sevastopol Air Traffic Control.

"Omzian Diplomatic inbound and military escorts, this is Regional Air Traffic Control for the Crimean Peninsula. We will be guiding you over southern Ferrussia over the next half hour, and make sure you have a smooth, quick ride.

"You will be designated Omzian Flight 001 for Ferrussian purposes. Civilian air traffic is being diverted from your path, so you should not have to worry about any airliners getting in your way. A pair of F/A-2000B Millenium fighters will be approaching your position within five minutes to verify that you are indeed the Omzian delegacy, so there is no need for alarm. The fighters will provide additional escort and guide you into Kiev.

"Feel free to contact us should you need anything, and have a great flight."

*****

15 miles off the southern coast of Ferrussia

"This is Foreign Escort Alpha, coming up on the presumed Omzian Gulfstream. Weapons systems are on active standby, but not hot."

The two F/A-200Bs circled behind the Gulfstream's position, giving a cheerful wave to the F/A-22C pilots. Alpha, careful to stay far enough from the modified luxury jet to avoid causing turbulence, read the serial number off the Gulfstream's tail. He noticed the flag and label on the side.

"Looks legit to me," he said. "Pulling ahead into forward escort position, bringing weapons systems to low standby."

The five planes continued along. They would pass the coastline soon.

*****

Several hours later, over Kiev

"Omzian Flight 001, this is Foreign Escort Alpha. We will disengage now and circle the Uzyn Air Force Base to cover your landing. The armed escort is waiting on the tarmac, and the full police escort is waiting on the adjacent road. It's been good flying with you. Foreign Escort Alpha out."
Omz222
21-11-2003, 06:49
The flight picked both transmissions quickly. The flight crews, a group of flight crews who flied Air Force jetfighters and Omzian "Omzian One"s (Presidental/Military high-rank officer flights), replied with efficency.

"Understood, thank you. We will follow the routes. Over.

**********

The flight went smooth. The Ambassador, who have woken up from a good sleep on the long way, looked outside as another aide wrote something on his memo -- as usual. The Ambassador asked politely, while putting on his old pair of glasses, "we are in Ferrussia now?"

"Yes sir, you bet ya," the young aide replied.

"Uh... Very well. I heard we are going to land soon, gotta get ready...

**********

"Foreign Escort Alpha, instructions received. Landing will commerce. Over."

With that, the pilots circled the Air Force Base. Just as a percaution, the crews radioed the control tower,

"This is Omzian Flight 001, receiving instructions from Escort Alpha. We seek permission to land, and we need the exact runway to land on. Over."

The plane continued to hurl down, almost approaching...
Ferrussia
21-11-2003, 07:03
Uzyn Air Force Base, Kiev province

"Roger, Omzian 001, welcome to the Uzyn Air Force Base. We have you on radar and visual. You are cleared to land on Runway 1A. We reccomend landing your F/A-22Cs on Runway 2B shortly after you've landed."

The controller watched the incoming Gulfstream V as it elegantly touched down on the main runway. The procession of two armored limousines and armored car escorts pulled up alongside the plane as it taxiied towards the base. Several armed squads patrolled the area.

*****

On the ground, Piotr stood nervously by the limousine door. As the Omzian ambassador approached, he bowed.

"Welcome to the People's Republic of Ferrussia, Ambassador," he said warmly, opening the door. "I will be your driver for the short, half hour trip into Kiev. Our destination is the Mariinsky Palace, where the President would enjoy your prescence for dinner."

Holding open the door, he helped the Ambassador in.

Well, he thought, I survived that part...
Clan Smoke Jaguar
21-11-2003, 07:10
The Smoke Jaguar Diplomatic Corps Gulfstream V, which was Ambassador Kotare's personal jet, approached Ferrussian airspace, flanked by a pair of F/A-22C Raptor fighters. Inside, the Ambassador was laying back in his seat, anxiously anticipating the start of the talks.
Omz222
21-11-2003, 07:14
"Understood, we will instruct the F/A-22Cs."

One crew tuned his radio controllers, then radioed the 2 F/A-22Cs.

"Callsigns Sierra Beta 1, Sierra Beta 2, please land on Runway 2B. Over."

"Understood, instruction received. Over."

As this is finished, the F/A-22Cs, with their fuel tanks and some air-to-air missiles for defense, touched down. The great roars of these aircaft can be heard by the Ambassador.

The pilots popped their canopys, then removed their oxygen masks and helmets. They'd expect some introductions.

******************

The Ambassador bowed back, with a smile. "Glad to meet you to," the Ambassador replied in an exciting but warn and confident fashion. "Understood. We are sure that the meeting, and the dinner, will go just fine. We will enjoy our stay at your nation of the People's Republic of Ferrussia, thank you."

With that, he stepped in. Some nice foreign people... and limo... Well, the stay will be the best, he thought. The aides followed.
Ferrussia
21-11-2003, 07:25
(OOC: For the sake of time, CSJ, is it alright if we assume that your flight was handled in much the same fashion and came a little after Omz? I can RP the reception of the ambassadors arriving at the Palace tomorrow evening. Thanks, I probably better head to bed now. (In case you're curious, I'm on MST, and on most weekdays I should be avaliable from ~7/8-11 PM MST.))

IC:

As the armored car procession, now accompanied by the flashing lights of 14 police cars and motorcycles, made its way through Kiev, the Omzian National Anthem was played by the lead car. The car also displayed an Omzian flag, and as the covoy passed, crowds of Ferrussians who had gathered in the streets cheered, waved small Omzian flags, or held their hands over their hearts for the Omzian regalia. Prayers were said for the Omzian and CSJ soldiers fighting for the Omzian peoples' right to exist, and flowers or streamers were thrown in the path of the grand display. The Clan Smoke Jaguar procession, following closely behind, recieved much the same treatment.

The convoys approached the palace, and the crowd continued to thicken. Crowds had become such a problem that the entire course of the cars leading up to the palace was blocked to road traffic, save for the armored cars themselves. Three flags hung above the main entrance to the beautiful palace (http://www.president.gov.ua/files/img/mariinsky/8_600.jpg) - Centered was the Ferrussian flag, flanked on both sides by the CSJ and Omzian flags.

The crowd was held back from the palace grounds, and as the two processions arrived, the drivers hopped out and opened the doors for the ambassadors and their staff. Cameras flashed from the street, and various news agencies had vans set up nearby.

The welcome guests were to recieve the best treatment Kiev had to offer.
Ferrussia
22-11-2003, 21:13
Mariinsky Palace, Kiev, Ferrussia

As the two ambassadors and their accompanying staff walked up to the modest doors of the palace, two guards sharply opened the doors and saluted to the ambassadors. Behind the now open doors stood President Mikhail Andreyevich Yavlinsky, flanked by two more guards. Behind him stood Aleksey Kasyanov, Secretary of Foreign Affairs.

"Welcome," said Yavlinsky, "to our humble country. Might you join us for some dinner?"

He led the way to the Banquet hall.
Omz222
22-11-2003, 21:16
The Omzian ambassador, being a retired officer from the Omzian Navy, quickly saluted back in a military fashion, with a warm smile.

As he walked, he finally saw Kasyanov. "Thank you, Mr. Yavlinsky. As you know, I'm Ambassador Kurkan of the Omzian Diplomatic Corps. I will be honored to join you in dinner."
Clan Smoke Jaguar
22-11-2003, 21:30
Ambassador Kotare, also a former soldier (albeit an Air Force one), saluted as well. With a broad smile, he gave his own reply. "It is indeed an honor, President Yavlinsky, and as you would be aware, I am Ambassador Fenix Kotare, head of the Clan Smoke Jagaur diplomatic corps. I would be absolutely delighted to have the honor of joining you for dinner."
Ferrussia
22-11-2003, 21:48
Banquet Hall, Mariinsky Palace

Yavlinsky strolled into the Banquet hall, with a dignified presence that never ceased to amaze those who worked around him.

"The architecture here is simply splendid," noted the President as he walked through the door. "It's mostly baroque, you see, but many parts have been rebuilt since it was first built in the 18th century. It gives it this lovely air of both old and new that I adore."

As Yavlinsky took the seat at the head of the table, both sides were offered to the two delegations by waiters dressed in formal tuxedos. Kasyanov sat to the right of the President, and the two guards stood in dress uniform against the back wall.

"And the cooks in this place," continued Yavlinsky casually, "are simply wonderful! They've roasted a turkey by hand for this momentous occasion. I'm sure you'll love it - it's my personal favorite."

The President looked almost jovially to the two ambassadors.

"I do hope you enjoy your stay."
Clan Smoke Jaguar
22-11-2003, 22:19
"Oh Mr. President, we most certainly will. This building alone is worth the trip. It's utterly spectacular, and nothing in our own nation even comes close to being this magnificant. I must once again thank you for inviting us here, and I'm sure that the dinner will be as wonderful as the location, and company."
Omz222
22-11-2003, 22:23
A very nice hall..., the Omzian Ambassador thought, simply amazed. he never visited one with such good architecture -- well, maybe with the exception of the Omzian Revolution Museum in Osaria. "Very nice place," he commented.

After the President spoke to the 2 ambassadors, the Omzian Ambassador replied quickly. "Mr. Yavlinsky, it is sertainly a honor, and we will. This building gotta to be the most beautiful one I've seen in my career, certainly beautiful. Along with our Smoke Jaguar allies, we thank our Ferrussian allies for their dearest invitation to the dinner. We certainly hope that the trip will be a worthwile one."
Ferrussia
23-11-2003, 05:52
President Yavlinsky blushed ever so slightly. "You flatter me," he said. "I only wish I could take credit in it's brilliant design."

As this was said, the cuts of turkey were brought out for everyone. Plates were placed in front of each guest, the warm aroma of turkey and gravy filling the air. Mashed potatoes and stuffing also filled the plates, leaving little room to spare on the best china Ferrussia had to offer.

"Well," said the President, "let us eat."

And with that he cut a small piece from his cut of the moist turkey, tasting and cherishing it slowly in his mouth. A smile came across his face. "It seems the cooks have outdone themselves. Send them my regards," he said to one of the waiters.

For the first time tonight, Kasyanov spoke up. "Before we get this started," he said, looking at the ambassadors, "I've been curious as to what you expect to accomplish here. I would personally love to see our great countries come closer together, but I'm interested in what else we could do. Together, I'm sure our nations could thrive and complement each other in so many different ways."
23-11-2003, 18:14
**TAG**

Just woke up, I'll fill this in later.
Omz222
23-11-2003, 18:19
As the Ambassador glanced over the food, he simply said, "amazing."

As the question reached to the Ambassador, Kurkan replied with a slight smile. "Well, we do propose joint ventures and an alliance between Clan Smoke Jaguar, Omzian Democratic Republic, and Ferrussia together. We also propose that we could encourage trades between the 3 nations, as said earlier. Militarily, we could share technologies between ourselves to prosper our defence. Endless possibilities here."
United Elias
23-11-2003, 18:48
can I join

maybe we could link this in with the Spy RP?
Ferrussia
23-11-2003, 19:00
OOC: Contact me via telegram if you'd be interested in some sort of diplomatic negotiation with Ferrussia

(OOC: Trying to keep this thread mostly IC, but it's ok. UE, I don't think we'd be able to link it much with the Spy RP, but as for being interested in joining, I'd say the same as I did to Sliponia - send an ambassador, and if Omz, CSJ and I decide to let additional people into the alliance negotiations, so be it, otherwise we could still get some good diplomacy going between UE and Ferrussia. Assume I sent you a letter that looks about the same as the one sent to Sliponia (see page 1).)
Ferrussia
23-11-2003, 19:05
Kasyanov nodded politely to Kurkan's reply. "I have much the same expectations. I hope we can realize the potential of this alliance, military and otherwise, because even with a war on, there is so much we could accomplish outside of the military facet of the alliance."
23-11-2003, 21:11
In the skies nearing Ferrussia a Gulfstream G4 style jet approaches surrounded by jets from the Sliponian airforce. A message is broadcasted out:

This is the S4 along with 4 protection jets from the Sliponian air force requesting permission to enter Ferrussian air space.
United Elias
24-11-2003, 00:44
The Modified 737 Boeing Business Jet started to descend from 29,000ft the expanse of the Black Sea having yielded to the great steppe of the Ukraine. The plane, white with navy blue coach lines and a huge eagle emlazoned on the tail then banked slightly for the approach to Kiev.
In the small executive office the Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs held a video conference with the President, setting out the objectives of the visit.

In the cockpit, the pilot contacted the ground.

"Kiev Approach, Eagle one seven zero, descending flight level 160, request ILS approach."
Ferrussia
24-11-2003, 01:58
RATC - Crimean Penninsula
Sevastopol, Ferrussia

"Permission granted. We've organized a flight plan to Kiev's Uzyn AFB. Have a nice flight over Ferrussia."

*****

Kiev International Airport

"Eagle One-Seven-Zero, this is Kiev International Control Tower 1. Your approach is confirmed. If you wish for a more secure landing site, a runway is open at the Uzyn AFB, otherwise please circle Kiev International while a runway 14B is cleared for your landing."
United Elias
24-11-2003, 02:02
"Roger, Eagle Two Seven One requesting secure landing site, confirm
arrangements have been made for ground security and transportation."

OOC: Im assuming that we have an embassy in Kiev so the Minister will stay there.
24-11-2003, 02:11
The group from Sliponia approaches the Uzyn AFB and prepares for the landing but first sends message to the control tower.

Permission to land requested from the Sliponian S4 as well as the protection.
Ferrussia
24-11-2003, 02:11
Kiev International Airport - 6:12 pm

"Very well, please change landing vector to Runway 1A of Uzyn AFB. We'll let them know you're on your way. Armored transport is avaliable at Uzyn AFB and will be ready upon arrival, and will be happy to take you to the United Elias Embassy. We assume that you will use your embassy's transportation to get to the scheduled 8:45 meeting at the Presidential Palace?"
Ferrussia
24-11-2003, 02:16
Uzyn AFB

"Sliponia 001, you are cleared to land on Runway 1A, and the fighter escorts may land on 2A."

"Eagle 271, we request that you wait for the Sliponian Gulfstream before landing. You should be cleared to land in just a minute."
24-11-2003, 02:21
The S4 makes its way to the landing strip as the escorts land on their seperate run way. Jake Walker, the diplomat aboard the S4 is apprehensive about getting out of the jet but the guards from his homeland as well as those from Ferrussia convince him he'll be fine and he hurries from the S4 to the vehicle waiting for him.
"Where are we going to?" he asks.
Ferrussia
24-11-2003, 02:29
The driver of the armored limousine bows curtly before answering. "The Ferrussian government has offered to room you in the Presidential Palace, if that would be alright. Aleksey Kasyanov would like to see you at 8:15."

As he helps the diplomat into the vehicle, a small police escort arrives at the Air Force base. While this arrival would not be as high-profile as the Omzian and CSJ arrivals, provisions for safety were still being made.

The small group of cars headed for the historic section of Kiev as another police escort and armored limousine arrived at the AFB to pick up the United Elias ambassador.
24-11-2003, 02:58
"8:15 is fine with me" the diplomat responds. "As for the room at the palace, I am delighted."
Omz222
24-11-2003, 03:00
Kasyanov nodded politely to Kurkan's reply. "I have much the same expectations. I hope we can realize the potential of this alliance, military and otherwise, because even with a war on, there is so much we could accomplish outside of the military facet of the alliance."
The Omzian smiled, as he nodded with confidence. "Oh, we are sure that there are a lot of diplomatic and economic matters that can be accomplished between Ferrussia, Clan Smoke Jaguar, and Omzian Democratic Republic even in this times of war. As said, we are aware of the aids your nation offered us as well. There's a whole range of options to choose from, especially economically, especially after the invasion."
Clan Smoke Jaguar
24-11-2003, 10:31
OOC: Sorry for taking so long. My internet was down all day Sunday :tantrum:

IC: Ambassador Kotare finallly spoke up. "Well, it appears that we all have the same ideas as to what can be accomplished here. Clan Smoke Jaguar is especially interested in nonmilitary trade agreements that might become extremely beneficial to all of us in the near future."
United Elias
25-11-2003, 01:11
In central Kiev the small motorcade drove through the wrought iron gates of the Elias Embassy compound and under the watchful eyes of the Marine Guards the Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs walked from the limmousine up the stairs at the entrance of the white, colonial buidling flanked by grand columns and ornate marble.
25-11-2003, 01:45
OOC: Did I arrive the morning of the talk (8:15 meeting) or the night before?
Ferrussia
25-11-2003, 04:40
OOC: The talk is at 8:15 PM. You've arrived the night of the talk, and have at least an hour to prepare (see below).

Mariinsky Palace

Kasyanov looked up from his dinner. "I think you're right, Mr. Ambassador. I think this will be a great influence on our countries, both immediately and into the unforseeable future."

With that, he turned back to the meal in front of him. "For now, though, let's eat."

*****

After a scrumptious dessert of strawberry shortcake, President Yavlinsky led the small armada of assistants, ambassadors, and secretaries into the Green Living Room. Kasyanov stayed by the door.

"If you'll be so kind as to excuse me," said Secretary Kasyanov, "I have a meeting with a Sliponian diplomat to prepare for. Thank you."

"Well," began Yavlinsky. "Where do we begin?"

*****

Outside Mariinsky Palace

"It looks like you've got a good hour or so before the meeting is scheduled," said the driver to Sliponia's diplomat. "There'll be an assistant waiting in your room, where your luggage has already been sent. They'll be glad to show you to your meeting, get you some dinner, or anything else you need."

He ran around and opened Mr. Walker's door, then walked with him up into the palace.

"Your room us up these stairs and down the left hall, it'll be the second room on the left. It's been a pleasure serving you, Mr. Walker."
25-11-2003, 05:05
"And thank you for the enjoyable ride. I think I'll go ahead and make my way to my room now."

Jake made his way up the stairs to his room where he was met by an assistant. They made their way to the room while Jake observed the surroundings commenting to himself how nice they were. Once he arrived at his room-a sigh of relief overcame him. As he made his way in, he noticed that a table filled with some of his favorite foods had been setup. He looked over the asst. who nodded towards the table with an unsure grin as Jake proceeded to dig in. Jake's manners had gotten the best of him-"Would you like some?" he asked the assistant. "No sir, that's quite alright I've already eaten." the assistant replied. "Oh, well you have no idea what you're missing!" Jake playfully responded. Once Jake finished eating he took a quick shower and changed his clothes. He noted to the asst. that he was ready to go. The assistant took him to the room where the Secretary of Foreign Affairs, Kasyanov, was located.

"Good evening Secretary Kasyanov," he started, "it's good to finally meet you."

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Edit1: Tying up "loose ends."
Ferrussia
25-11-2003, 05:34
OOC: Actually, you're meeting with the Secretary of Foreign Affairs (Kasyanov) individually. Omz, CSJ and I will ICly decide fairly soon if others should come to the meeting, or perhaps for specific parts of it. In the meantime, Kasyanov will be meeting with you to see what can be done specifically between Ferrussia and Sliponia.

Sorry to throw you off there. I'll assume for the time being that you've just gone to the Baroque Room, where your meeting was scheduled to meet Secretary of Foreign Affairs Aleksey Kasyanov.


IC:

Baroque Room, Mariinsky Palace

Kasyanov offered a hand to Mr. Walker. "Welcome to Ferrussia! I hope you've enjoyed your stay so far."

He motioned Mr. Walker to a nearby chair, and sat down across from him.

"I would first like to thank your nation for it's help with the liberation of Serpentia City those many years ago. Our nations haven't seen much of each other since, but your loyalty to freedom has, shall we say, stuck in our minds. I'm glad to finally have the chance to speak to you, and I'm sure there's much catching up to do. How has Sliponia been doing of late?"

*****

Green Living Room, Mariinsky Palace

Sweeping the room for a second with his deep, blue eyes, Yavlinsky answered his own question.

"First off, I would like to pose a quick question to the both of you," he said. "There have been others interested in taking part in these discussions, though I'm afraid they not be the most prevalent countries in your mind. We currently have representatives here from both Sliponia and United Elias, and both have voiced their interest in joining these talks; though I'm sure they would be satisfied with a polite 'no.' There is no reason for them to join if you both do not expressly wish them to, and perhaps it would be best for each of us to simply negotiate individually with them if we care to do so.

"I personally would not mind their prescence, but I feel this alliance could be, say, more meaningful should it stay between the three of us. Another option, I suppose, would be to conclude our own talks and then meet with them afterwards for a broader, less cohesive alliance of sorts. But enough of my ideas. What do you think?"
Clan Smoke Jaguar
25-11-2003, 12:26
Green Living Room, Mariinsky Palace

Sweeping the room for a second with his deep, blue eyes, Yavlinsky answered his own question.

"First off, I would like to pose a quick question to the both of you," he said. "There have been others interested in taking part in these discussions, though I'm afraid they not be the most prevalent countries in your mind. We currently have representatives here from both Sliponia and United Elias, and both have voiced their interest in joining these talks; though I'm sure they would be satisfied with a polite 'no.' There is no reason for them to join if you both do not expressly wish them to, and perhaps it would be best for each of us to simply negotiate individually with them if we care to do so.

"I personally would not mind their prescence, but I feel this alliance could be, say, more meaningful should it stay between the three of us. Another option, I suppose, would be to conclude our own talks and then meet with them afterwards for a broader, less cohesive alliance of sorts. But enough of my ideas. What do you think?"
Ambassador Kotare thought for a moment. "Well, it would definately be good to have additional members, but this, as you said, would be far more meaningful if it were just us, especially considering that Clan Smoke Jaguar has had little to no contact with either of them, and we'd be hesitant to just open our arms without having known them."
"Maybe we could, as you suggest, invite them to a slightly looser alliance. We could always expand the relations as time progresses. A more gradual inclusion would be much more to our liking."
25-11-2003, 14:34
"Yes, I have had a great stay in Ferrussia; though I must admit I was a little apprehensive to exit my plane at first," he chuckled. "But then I realized, hey, I'm at an official AFB, I'll be fine. As for the liberation, we were glad to do it. Hopefully my visit here will help reunite our nations...? That'd be a great thing indeed. My nations economy is unfortunately "imploded" but, President Ross has just enacted a bill that, if passed, will hopefully give a major boost to the economy. Now what sort of issues do you have in mind of speaking about?"
Omz222
25-11-2003, 17:01
Green Living Room, Mariinsky Palace

Sweeping the room for a second with his deep, blue eyes, Yavlinsky answered his own question.

"First off, I would like to pose a quick question to the both of you," he said. "There have been others interested in taking part in these discussions, though I'm afraid they not be the most prevalent countries in your mind. We currently have representatives here from both Sliponia and United Elias, and both have voiced their interest in joining these talks; though I'm sure they would be satisfied with a polite 'no.' There is no reason for them to join if you both do not expressly wish them to, and perhaps it would be best for each of us to simply negotiate individually with them if we care to do so.

"I personally would not mind their prescence, but I feel this alliance could be, say, more meaningful should it stay between the three of us. Another option, I suppose, would be to conclude our own talks and then meet with them afterwards for a broader, less cohesive alliance of sorts. But enough of my ideas. What do you think?"

The Omzian Ambassador paused for a few seconds.

"Of course, we would be happy to open our arms for these 2 new nations, since United Elias is a military trading partner of Omzian Democratic Republic. However, we would be happy to hear their goals.

We also feel that it is most beneficial to keep the alliance open between us three. But as Ambassador Kotare said, there could be a looser version of this alliance, in which United Elias and Sliponia will be in.
Ferrussia
26-11-2003, 02:11
Baroque Room, Mariinsky Palace

Kasyanov nods at Walker's anticipation of leaving the plane. "First time on an envoy? I had a bit of trouble my first time, as well. Then again, I wasn't exactly a high profile diplomat back then, either, so I wasn't so sure anyone would waste their time on me." He winks. "But yes, we chose the Air Force base because it is, essentially, the highest security landing area near Kiev, and has plenty of room for military aircraft.

"I'm quite sure Fyreheart is grateful for both of our nations' support in the liberation of their city, and I suppose it gives us a place to start from. Now as for your economic woes, we believe we may be able to help in this area. Your nation is a tad too big to qualify for direct foreign aid under most circumstances, but we may be able to bypass that a bit for this special circumstance. A large amount of trade could likely be established between our nations, and we could tweak prices and tariffs to be slightly in your favor.

"I seem to remember the Arms Manufacturing industry being prevalent in your nation - do you have any exports? We may be interested in making some purchases, as the military is undergoing some expansion."

*****

Green Living Room, Mariinsky Palace

"In that case," said Yavlinsky, "I suppose it is settled. Seperate negotiations will be held with United Elias and Sliponia, possibly some time tomorrow or the day after. In the meantime, I suggest we hammer out some specific goals, and work on the details tomorrow."

The President glanced at his watch - it was 8:25 pm - before turning back to the two ambassadors. "Although it is perhaps not the most important facet of this alliance, I believe it would be best if we concluded the matter of military intervention right off the bat.

"Before I forget," he continued, "my Military advisers have been curious on the readiness of our orders, specifically the multiple armored and mechanized divisions. It would be best if our forces could begin training with the new equiptment immediately, and be ready for possible deployment into Omz within a matter of months.

"Which brings me to the immediate question that I'm sure is on all our minds - Ferrussian intervention into the Omzian - Sniper War. While we are a bit... intimidated in taking on four of the largest military powers in the world, we feel it is absolutely necessary given the conditions. Our people are reluctant, with our involvement in the Nimbatan Civil War, to make any sort of attack, so our part in a counter-attack would be limited, if at all. However, we would not pass up this opporitunity to so quickly seal this alliance, and to be honest our military advisers have been keeping tabs on the war and planning for Ferrussian deployments.

"But while this is an important matter, this is more a discussion for our military advisers, as our involvement is fairly certain. We ought to set an appointment for such - how soon could military advisers from your two countries arrive? Ferrussia will officially announce it's shift to Defcon 3 tomorrow morning, and a fair portion of the military will ready for deployment.

"Sorry to drag this out, but I have one final matter to discuss. I feel it would be of utmost importance to agree on a mutual defense pact of some kind, and we could all benefit by allowing the construction of one or two military bases being built in each others countries. While this is an awfully large step, I think our nations are close enough to trust each other so. We have no intention of any sort of backstabbing invasion, and I would hardly consider it being a problem in the future."

Yavlinsky cut himself short, realizing he needed the opinions of the others before continuing. A lot had been laid on the table - now to see how it would be taken.

(OOC - feel free to argue against something, even if you think in the end you'll agree, we could have some debate. But if you were thinking the same thing, don't argue just for the sake of it. Make sure there aren't any severe drawbacks, and feel free to suggest slight alterations or substitutions.)
Clan Smoke Jaguar
26-11-2003, 03:20
Green Living Room, Mariinsky Palace

"In that case," said Yavlinsky, "I suppose it is settled. Seperate negotiations will be held with United Elias and Sliponia, possibly some time tomorrow or the day after. In the meantime, I suggest we hammer out some specific goals, and work on the details tomorrow."

The President glanced at his watch - it was 8:25 pm - before turning back to the two ambassadors. "Although it is perhaps not the most important facet of this alliance, I believe it would be best if we concluded the matter of military intervention right off the bat.

"Before I forget," he continued, "my Military advisers have been curious on the readiness of our orders, specifically the multiple armored and mechanized divisions. It would be best if our forces could begin training with the new equiptment immediately, and be ready for possible deployment into Omz within a matter of months.

"Which brings me to the immediate question that I'm sure is on all our minds - Ferrussian intervention into the Omzian - Sniper War. While we are a bit... intimidated in taking on four of the largest military powers in the world, we feel it is absolutely necessary given the conditions. Our people are reluctant, with our involvement in the Nimbatan Civil War, to make any sort of attack, so our part in a counter-attack would be limited, if at all. However, we would not pass up this opporitunity to so quickly seal this alliance, and to be honest our military advisers have been keeping tabs on the war and planning for Ferrussian deployments.

"But while this is an important matter, this is more a discussion for our military advisers, as our involvement is fairly certain. We ought to set an appointment for such - how soon could military advisers from your two countries arrive? Ferrussia will officially announce it's shift to Defcon 3 tomorrow morning, and a fair portion of the military will ready for deployment.

"Sorry to drag this out, but I have one final matter to discuss. I feel it would be of utmost importance to agree on a mutual defense pact of some kind, and we could all benefit by allowing the construction of one or two military bases being built in each others countries. While this is an awfully large step, I think our nations are close enough to trust each other so. We have no intention of any sort of backstabbing invasion, and I would hardly consider it being a problem in the future."

Yavlinsky cut himself short, realizing he needed the opinions of the others before continuing. A lot had been laid on the table - now to see how it would be taken.

(OOC - feel free to argue against something, even if you think in the end you'll agree, we could have some debate. But if you were thinking the same thing, don't argue just for the sake of it. Make sure there aren't any severe drawbacks, and feel free to suggest slight alterations or substitutions.)
"Well," said Ambassador Kotare, "I can't spead for certain, but we might be a little slow in sending good military advisors over, with most of our planning staffs being devoted to the war effort. We will likely have all qualified officers already employed, and will take a bit to get one replaced so he could come here. Such an appointment would most certainly require at least one senior flag officer, but we can start by sending over some lower-ranked interim ones, say, colonels or brigadier generals, as there's no shortage of those."

"For military bases, the idea had crossed our mind. However, setting up a military base can be time consuming, especially one of any meaningful size. We would also suggest some additional measures like joint training exercies and possibly an exchange program where we trade units for a period of time, with each unit training under the doctrine of its host nation. That would also have the benefit of generating significantly greater familiarity between our forces - a definate boon to any future joint operations."
Omz222
26-11-2003, 03:29
The Ambassador thought about it for a moment. "About the military advisors," he cleared his throat. "As our friend Ambassador Kotare said, the war efforts are taking time from our advisors fully, as said. However, we will be sure to try to have a military advisor onboard."

"As for the military bases, we too, would be interested. However, this, as said, is very time consuming and obviously we can't set it up right now. As for Ambassador Kotare's idea for joint military exercises and exchange programs, we are sure that our commanders would be happy to hear about this. So, possibilities here that can benefit all of us greatly, militarily and diplomatically."
Ferrussia
26-11-2003, 03:40
"An excellent idea, Mr. Ambassador," said Yavlinsky to Kotare. "I can imagine how such cross-training would be beneficial in the short and long term, and make our nations' armed forces significantly more cohesive.

"As for the matter of military bases," he continued, now addressing both ambassadors, "I certainly did not mean to imply that they would be done immediately, or even started in the near future. It's simply a major beneficiary to our mutual ability to project force throughout the world, and would help capacitate long-term efforts of the cross-training Ambassador Kotare has suggested.

"As for your military leaders, I completely understand. Many of ours are busy preparing for and drawing up plans for a multi-stage reinforcement of Omzian positions and help with any counter-attacks on Omzian soil. However, given that we have significantly more to spare for the time being, perhaps it would be better if military advisers from Ferrussia went to your nations? At a minimum, we'd like to set up a military liason of substantial size with both Omz and CSJ before getting too deep into this - the Ferrussian armed forces have always believed that communication is just as crucial as the guns you have."
26-11-2003, 03:47
"Yes, I have had a great stay in Ferrussia; though I must admit I was a little apprehensive to exit my plane at first," he chuckled. "But then I realized, hey, I'm at an official AFB, I'll be fine. As for the liberation, we were glad to do it. Hopefully my visit here will help reunite our nations...? That'd be a great thing indeed. My nations economy is unfortunately "imploded" but, President Ross has just enacted a bill that, if passed, will hopefully give a major boost to the economy. Now what sort of issues do you have in mind of speaking about?"

OOC: Waiting for a response...? Or is there going to be a different meeting?
Ferrussia
26-11-2003, 03:50
Baroque Room, Mariinsky Palace

Kasyanov nods at Walker's anticipation of leaving the plane. "First time on an envoy? I had a bit of trouble my first time, as well. Then again, I wasn't exactly a high profile diplomat back then, either, so I wasn't so sure anyone would waste their time on me." He winks. "But yes, we chose the Air Force base because it is, essentially, the highest security landing area near Kiev, and has plenty of room for military aircraft.

"I'm quite sure Fyreheart is grateful for both of our nations' support in the liberation of their city, and I suppose it gives us a place to start from. Now as for your economic woes, we believe we may be able to help in this area. Your nation is a tad too big to qualify for direct foreign aid under most circumstances, but we may be able to bypass that a bit for this special circumstance. A large amount of trade could likely be established between our nations, and we could tweak prices and tariffs to be slightly in your favor.

"I seem to remember the Arms Manufacturing industry being prevalent in your nation - do you have any exports? We may be interested in making some purchases, as the military is undergoing some expansion."


Already did. Just to let you know, anything under the heading

Baroque Room, Mariinsky Palace

is, for the time being, referring to your meeting.
Ferrussia
27-11-2003, 01:10
"An excellent idea, Mr. Ambassador," said Yavlinsky to Kotare. "I can imagine how such cross-training would be beneficial in the short and long term, and make our nations' armed forces significantly more cohesive.

"As for the matter of military bases," he continued, now addressing both ambassadors, "I certainly did not mean to imply that they would be done immediately, or even started in the near future. It's simply a major beneficiary to our mutual ability to project force throughout the world, and would help capacitate long-term efforts of the cross-training Ambassador Kotare has suggested.

"As for your military leaders, I completely understand. Many of ours are busy preparing for and drawing up plans for a multi-stage reinforcement of Omzian positions and help with any counter-attacks on Omzian soil. However, given that we have significantly more to spare for the time being, perhaps it would be better if military advisers from Ferrussia went to your nations? At a minimum, we'd like to set up a military liason of substantial size with both Omz and CSJ before getting too deep into this - the Ferrussian armed forces have always believed that communication is just as crucial as the guns you have."

BUMP...

Any ideas for more military aspects of the treaty? I was thinking full sharing of military tech, but I'm not sure on that.
United Elias
27-11-2003, 01:19
where do we fit in?
Ferrussia
27-11-2003, 05:02
"Very well, please change landing vector to Runway 1A of Uzyn AFB. We'll let them know you're on your way. Armored transport is avaliable at Uzyn AFB and will be ready upon arrival, and will be happy to take you to the United Elias Embassy. We assume that you will use your embassy's transportation to get to the scheduled 8:45 meeting at the Presidential Palace?"

(To Sliponia)

OOC: Actually, you're meeting with the Secretary of Foreign Affairs (Kasyanov) individually. Omz, CSJ and I will ICly decide fairly soon if others should come to the meeting, or perhaps for specific parts of it. In the meantime, Kasyanov will be meeting with you to see what can be done specifically between Ferrussia and Sliponia. (applies to you, too)

"In that case," said Yavlinsky, "I suppose it is settled. Seperate negotiations will be held with United Elias and Sliponia, possibly some time tomorrow or the day after. In the meantime, I suggest we hammer out some specific goals, and work on the details tomorrow."

You just have to read the RP through (or at least the recent parts) and you'll find this information. I've done my best to include in my RPs what will be going on, and make sure you read what's going on in the Omz-CSJ-Ferrussia talks, too, so you OOCly know what's going on.
Ferrussia
27-11-2003, 05:18
Since it seems desperately needed...

OOC EXPLANATION OF WHAT'S GOING ON

TIME: 8:28 pm

Omz and CSJ: Specific goals for what is to be accomplished and decided on are being set out tonight in the RP. (That's RP tonight, not RL tonight.) Tomorrow in the RP, the three of us will work out the specifics after getting to sleep on the issues brought up by the goals. Both ambassadors will be rooming in the Mariinsky Palace, and negotiations are slated to be resumed in the Green Living Room.

At the moment, Yavlinsky has just asked for any other additions to the military aspect of the three-way alliance. We've so far established that it will involve Ferrussian involvement in the Omzian war, co-establishment of military bases (later), and the cross-training of some troops. Someone may wish to bring up mutual defense (will it be mandatory?), and sharing of military technology. Yavlinsky may bring up MFN status with CSJMI, so be prepared for that, Clan.

Sliponia: You are currently meeting with Secretary Kasyanov in the Baroque Room. You're working out rough outlines of a treaty of some sort - the magnitude of which has not been brought up. We've thus far offered economic aid of sorts, and are awaiting your reply. Your meeting will be ended, finished or not, at 8:45 pm. You may be offered a chance to attend additional negotiations with Ferrussia which would take place tomorrow or the following day (in RP).

As for the Omz-CSJ-Ferrussia alliance, you will not be included in those talks, but instead seperate ones will be held, most likely the day after tommorrow (in RP). You will be ICly notified of this sometime tomorrow (in RP).

United Elias: You are currently scheduled to attend a meeting with Kasyanov in the Baroque Room at precisely 8:45 pm. You will there conduct military and economic negotiations with Ferrussia until we're finished or Kasyanov decides he's too tired. Like Sliponia, you may be offered a chance to attend additional negotiations with Ferrussia which would take place tomorrow or the following day (in RP).

As for the Omz-CSJ-Ferrussia alliance, you will not be included in those talks, but instead seperate ones will be held, most likely the day after tommorrow (in RP). You will be ICly notified of this sometime tomorrow (in RP).


Any more questions? Let's get on with it then.

The last IC posts were:


OMZ & CSJ IN GREEN LIVING ROOM
"An excellent idea, Mr. Ambassador," said Yavlinsky to Kotare. "I can imagine how such cross-training would be beneficial in the short and long term, and make our nations' armed forces significantly more cohesive.

"As for the matter of military bases," he continued, now addressing both ambassadors, "I certainly did not mean to imply that they would be done immediately, or even started in the near future. It's simply a major beneficiary to our mutual ability to project force throughout the world, and would help capacitate long-term efforts of the cross-training Ambassador Kotare has suggested.

"As for your military leaders, I completely understand. Many of ours are busy preparing for and drawing up plans for a multi-stage reinforcement of Omzian positions and help with any counter-attacks on Omzian soil. However, given that we have significantly more to spare for the time being, perhaps it would be better if military advisers from Ferrussia went to your nations? At a minimum, we'd like to set up a military liason of substantial size with both Omz and CSJ before getting too deep into this - the Ferrussian armed forces have always believed that communication is just as crucial as the guns you have."


SLIPONIA IN BAROQUE HALL
Kasyanov nods at Walker's anticipation of leaving the plane. "First time on an envoy? I had a bit of trouble my first time, as well. Then again, I wasn't exactly a high profile diplomat back then, either, so I wasn't so sure anyone would waste their time on me." He winks. "But yes, we chose the Air Force base because it is, essentially, the highest security landing area near Kiev, and has plenty of room for military aircraft.

"I'm quite sure Fyreheart is grateful for both of our nations' support in the liberation of their city, and I suppose it gives us a place to start from. Now as for your economic woes, we believe we may be able to help in this area. Your nation is a tad too big to qualify for direct foreign aid under most circumstances, but we may be able to bypass that a bit for this special circumstance. A large amount of trade could likely be established between our nations, and we could tweak prices and tariffs to be slightly in your favor.

"I seem to remember the Arms Manufacturing industry being prevalent in your nation - do you have any exports? We may be interested in making some purchases, as the military is undergoing some expansion."
27-11-2003, 08:12
Kasyanov nods at Walker's anticipation of leaving the plane. "First time on an envoy? I had a bit of trouble my first time, as well. Then again, I wasn't exactly a high profile diplomat back then, either, so I wasn't so sure anyone would waste their time on me." He winks. "But yes, we chose the Air Force base because it is, essentially, the highest security landing area near Kiev, and has plenty of room for military aircraft.

"I'm quite sure Fyreheart is grateful for both of our nations' support in the liberation of their city, and I suppose it gives us a place to start from. Now as for your economic woes, we believe we may be able to help in this area. Your nation is a tad too big to qualify for direct foreign aid under most circumstances, but we may be able to bypass that a bit for this special circumstance. A large amount of trade could likely be established between our nations, and we could tweak prices and tariffs to be slightly in your favor.

"I seem to remember the Arms Manufacturing industry being prevalent in your nation - do you have any exports? We may be interested in making some purchases, as the military is undergoing some expansion."

"Yes, your memory serves you correct. Our top industry is Arms Manufacturing, followed by Automobile Manufacturing and Cheese Exports. If you wish you may look here (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=94720) for information about our military sales, and of course for being a friend of sorts, you would recieve a discount. Our nation's economy is suffering, but that won't stop us from keeping relations with other nations. As for your tweaking of tariffs, I'm sure the people of your fine nation would love a well-built motorvehicle from Sliponia, or perhaps some delicious Sliponian cheese. Oh, I'm sorry, I should have brought some cheese for you to sample, but believe me, it is to die for!"
Ferrussia
27-11-2003, 21:31
Baroque Hall, Mariinsky Palace

"Cheese and cars could be a major possibility for Ferrussian imports, and we could make sure that you make some profit out of it. Consider it done. As for military technologies, I'll be sure to give the DoD a heads up about it. Finally, I'm sure our government could, in fact, offer some direct financial aid in the spirit of rebuilding your economy. I wish you the best of luck in that regard."

Kasyanov thought. "Before we are out of time, I would like to bring up another subject. I would be interested to know if you are open to any military treaties with Ferrussia. We could offer treaties of mutual defense, and, in light of your financial woes, another option is also avaliable.

"The military has been highly interested of late in the establishment of military bases in foreign countries to make the deployment of forces significantly less difficult. The addition of a military base in Sliponia could greatly extend the projection of our deployment capability, and in turn, Ferrussia could pay annually for the priveledge of having such. We would likely require permission to dock Ferrussian warships in your major seaports, as well as a single, somewhat large military and air force base in the area of your choosing. Isolation would not be much of a problem, so if you're weary to place a foreign base near your residential areas, do not be afraid to place it far from your cities. It would need road access, however, and the size of such a complex, I'm told, would be about 3-4 miles square.

"I'm sure the military would be quite willing to pay a good billion dollars a year for such a base, and we would be able to much more easily dispatch forces for the protection of your country. Does this offer interest you? And how about the treaty?"
27-11-2003, 22:38
Mr. Walker thought for a moment. "This treaty would be great for both our nations and once our nation gets beack to full strength, we will have a more well funded military, but for now we have help from our Colony of Slipouri. Luckily their economy is thriving which means we can just take grants from them. Also, with this treaty, you would have the support of Slipouri.

As for military bases, we are fine with this; western Sliponia is mountainous while eastern Sliponia is along a beautiful ocean. As for military bases, let us know the terrain you would like. We have mountains in the west, plains in the center, and ocean/beach to the east. Your financial offer is also very pleasing to our nation. We think other than your ports on our eastern seaboard we have some nice territory in southeast Sliponia near the ocean. What do you think?"
Ferrussia
27-11-2003, 22:47
Baroque Hall, Mariinsky Palace

"I'm sure the military would love a location near to a seaport, as such access to the sea would make supply and deployment significantly easier. Our military advisers would have to get together to work out the specifics of such an agreement, but I'm sure that your proposal is satisfactory.

"The defense treaty will be welcome immediately, I'm sure. We can, again, work out the details at a later time (OOC: probably in a meeting tomorrow), but I'm sure this will bring us a step closer together. Give my best wishes to Sliponia, Mr. Walker, and I look forward to seeing you tomorrow. Forgive me, but our time has run short, as I have a meeting to attend now. I do hope you have a good night's rest tonight; I've found that this beautiful palace is incredibly welcoming to sleep - not once have I been unsuprised by it. Good day, Mr. Walker."

He shook Mr. Walker's hand, and showed him to the door, where Mr. Walker's assistant was waiting.
27-11-2003, 23:00
"Well, it was very nice talking with you; I'm sure I will enjoy my sleep tonight," he says with a chuckle as he walks out the door. As Walker and his assistant make their way to their respective rooms they can be heard speaking about the property in southeast Sliponia.

OOC: http://www.digitalstar.com/slip/OriginalImages/177293ORIG.JPG Sliponia is in the southeast corner of the mainland.
Ferrussia
27-11-2003, 23:01
OOC: Cue United Elias...
United Elias
27-11-2003, 23:18
The Deputy Minsiter of Foreign Affair enters the Baroque room shortly after surrounded by aides, embassy staff and guards from the Federal Security Bureau. The Minister, Yitzhak Goldstein walks up to his counterpart and breks the ice with a joke after shaking hands.

"Mr Kaysanov, thank you for your invitation, its wonderful to be here but of course I won't feel I've had the true Ferrussia experience until I have tried the Vodka, though maybe I should wait until after we discuss the military issues, it would be embarrasing if I gave the missile codes away wouldn't it."

An aide is about to interupt saying that he isnt actually privee to that infromation anyway but is promptly discouraged by a quick glance from Minister Goldstein.
Ferrussia
28-11-2003, 01:36
Baroque Hall, Mariinsky Palace

Secretary Kasyanov grinned at the joke, and showed the Minister to a chair.

"Well, I suppose that would expand our 'strategic assets' a bit, now, wouldn't it?" said Kasyanov with a grin.

"But on to our business," he said. "I'd first like to know what sort of agreements you'd be interested in for this meeting. I feel it would be best if we establish the purpose of this meeting right off the bat."
Clan Smoke Jaguar
28-11-2003, 03:15
"Sending military advisors to us would not be a bad idea. It would certainly make things easier for us, considering the situation, and would provide similar benefits to us sending people to you, at least in the short term. We would still eventually need to send some qalified people to your military, but this would be an excellent interim measure, and we understand your desires perfectly. The Clan Smoke Jaguar military has similar ideas."

"As far as the bases, we are fully aware of the value they provide, and have long desired to have several foreign bases to allow us to launch operations outside our region. Getting them, however, has never been easy, and should we agree on this, a Ferrussian base would be our first major foreign one."
Ferrussia
28-11-2003, 03:20
Green Living Room, Mariinsky Palace

President Yavlinsky nodded. "Sorry to bring us off topic, but CSJ, one of our top generals asked me to pass along the question of whether this alliance would grant Ferrussia MFN status with CSJMI? He said the Procurement Office would be incredibly excited if it did.

"But I am curious," he continued, "as to whether we are all in agreement that this should become a mutual defense pact? I, for one, feel it should be, but I'd like to hear what you have to say. There may be times when circumstances do not allow eachother to come to one another's aid - what shall be done then?"
Omz222
28-11-2003, 03:33
"Very good. For the advisors, this is perfectly fine. We will be sure to have our military to sort this matter out.

About the bases, we do think that these can provide great benefits to our militaries stragically. But as said, this would require a lot of work, and plus legislation approval within our Parliament as having foreign military bases in Omzian Democratic Republic is a very rare thing, and a very sensitive matter. If the legislation of putting Ferrussian military bases inside our nation and major Smoke Jaguar bases inside Omzian Democratic Republic is approved, it should provide all great benefits.

We can also understand your stance about the military leaders. However, we still see sending military advisors 'publicly' is to be very risky in this tension, and may even cost their lives. However, we have to approve this too (OOC: aka if SC approves you to be in, and if LF agrees to exit if he will be too inactive), so not another easy matter. Communications, however, we agree on.

About the mutual defence pact, we will be perfectly be satisfied if the Smoke Jaguar and Ferrussian sides approve. However, as the same, we would still have to wait for a legislation. But as the nature that Clan Smoke Jaguar is also a major ally, and Ferrussia being a friend we already had connection in the former RGGA with, it will be most likely approved. About your last concern, while we do feel the same about when various matters does not allow each other to coem to another's aid, we feel that it should be excused if the circumstance is considered... 'extreme'. While it do affect the alliance's reliably, we don't see how this will happen often."
Clan Smoke Jaguar
28-11-2003, 04:00
Ambassador Kotare smiled at President Yavlinsky's question. "Oh, we were anticipating that question, and we see no reason that it wouldn't. We'd like to have some of the benefits from that as part of the economic and trade portion of the agreement, but will likely provide full MFN status with this."

"I do think that this should be a mutual defense pact, and that would make a great deal of sense considering the other things we're doing. As for what to do should we be unable to support each other, I am open to suggestions. There's certainly no good answer that I can think of, and I'm tempted to say that we should just deal with that based on the specific situation, if and when it occurs."
Ferrussia
28-11-2003, 04:13
Green Living Room, Mariinsky Palace

"I," said Yavlinsky, "have to agree with both of you. I feel that it should be a rare instance when we won't be able to assist each other, and it could be negotiated individually with the remaining nation as a proctor of sorts.

"Thank you for your generosity, Mr. Kotare. I'm sure the military will be elated over the decision, should it occur as you have guessed. This, however, brings another question to mind: what shall be done regarding the sharing of military technologies? I would have little problem with the sharing of most, if not all, of our military research, however it could be dangerous to make it mandatory. But perhaps we are thinking too deeply on this - it may simply be easier to trade such assistance as each nation sees fit, rather than include it in the actual text of any alliance."
Omz222
28-11-2003, 04:20
"Thank you for your generosity, Mr. Kotare. I'm sure the military will be elated over the decision, should it occur as you have guessed. This, however, brings another question to mind: what shall be done regarding the sharing of military technologies? I would have little problem with the sharing of most, if not all, of our military research, however it could be dangerous to make it mandatory. But perhaps we are thinking too deeply on this - it may simply be easier to trade such assistance as each nation sees fit, rather than include it in the actual text of any alliance."
"Of course, we would also have little difficulty in sharing our military technologies with the other alliance members, although it will most likely be almost all of them, unless the Military Council has decided soemthing else. But, we do not feel that it is right to force the 3 members of the alliance to share technologies. Forcing would just show a bad image of the alliance to both members and the 'outsiders'. We also agree with the last proposal of trading what each nations sees fit."

The Omzian Ambassador thought about it for a quick second, and then continued in a relaxed manner, smiling, "we do overall admit that the Smoke Jaguars would have a lot of useful technologies to share." Then, turning to a more serious and quick mood, he ended, "however, we will be sure that sharuing military technologies will benefit us all -- in a military fashion. But as usual, we don't want other nations to think we are merely a military alliance."
Clan Smoke Jaguar
28-11-2003, 04:44
"As my esteemed counterpart has noted, it would not look very good if we were to require sharing of military technology, and we would likely not stand for such a thing anyway. However, we can include open trade of technologies and goods here, which would include, but not be limited to, military technology and equipment. And for more specific trades, I'm sure that any move by the other members to share technologies will be reciprocated by Clan Smoke Jaguar. So long as it's a 'give and receive' and not a 'give and take', we will be happy to trade."
Ferrussia
28-11-2003, 06:13
Green Living Room, Mariinsky Palace

"I agree completely," said Yavlinsky. "So military technologies will be traded, but not explicitly required.

"Now, as for economic aspects of the treaty - what ideas do you have?"
United Elias
28-11-2003, 18:00
Baroque Hall, Mariinsky Palace

Secretary Kasyanov grinned at the joke, and showed the Minister to a chair.

"Well, I suppose that would expand our 'strategic assets' a bit, now, wouldn't it?" said Kasyanov with a grin.

"But on to our business," he said. "I'd first like to know what sort of agreements you'd be interested in for this meeting. I feel it would be best if we establish the purpose of this meeting right off the bat."

"Well I have been three main topics to discuss with oyu, first of all Trade:

"As your nation is already aware we have significant numbers of export porducts that we have sold you and vice versa, therefore I propose that in order to encourage trade between our nations, we secure a free trade gareement whereby no taxes or tarriffs would be applied to any imports nor exports between our nations. Furthermore many coproations see great oppurtunity to invest in Ferrussia but certain laws and practices have made this diffiuclt, and sometimes impossible. The way I see it st that the onyl way our economies can grow is to mutually benefit each other. In order to this we request permission to form a Trade Forum based in Kiev and Baghdad where Ferrussian and Elias businesses can meet and discuss ideas for maximising our countries raw materials and skills. Also related to the economic theme is that Elias Federal Airlines has registered an interest in starting regular services between Kiev, Sevastapol and Bgahdad and Cairo (our second city). this would obviisuly dramatcically increase the commercial viability of trade as well as providng growth for tourist based indurstries in both our nations."
Ferrussia
29-11-2003, 06:45
Baroque Hall, Mariinsky Palace

"Those are splendid ideas!" said Kasyanov. "We would be fully willing to do whatever possible to encourage mutually beneficial trade between our nations. The construction of a Trade Forum would be excellent, indeed, and loosening investment laws between our nations would be again beneficial.

"As for regular air service, I'm sure that would be greatly beneficial. I'm sure several Ferrussian passenger and cargo airlines would be interested in providing long-term regular service between our nations.

"As such a close neighbor, it will be significantly easier to interact, both economically and militarily. I take it you would be interested in a mutual defense pact?"
Ferrussia
29-11-2003, 07:49
(OOC: I've realized, reading over some of the more recent posts, that I may not have made something clear: this agreement will be an alliance in the traditional sense - like an alliance between, say, the US and Israel, rather than an alliance in the NATO or other "group alliance" sense. Just wanted to make sure that's clear.)
United Elias
29-11-2003, 15:41
Baroque Hall, Mariinsky Palace

"Those are splendid ideas!" said Kasyanov. "We would be fully willing to do whatever possible to encourage mutually beneficial trade between our nations. The construction of a Trade Forum would be excellent, indeed, and loosening investment laws between our nations would be again beneficial.

"As for regular air service, I'm sure that would be greatly beneficial. I'm sure several Ferrussian passenger and cargo airlines would be interested in providing long-term regular service between our nations.

"As such a close neighbor, it will be significantly easier to interact, both economically and militarily. I take it you would be interested in a mutual defense pact?"

"I was just getting onto defence actually, and yes that is one of our main aims for this meeting. Any agreement that is signed however must have some conditions, for example if for instance there is civil war or either of our nation's suffer regime change it would negate the dea; hopefully this won't happen but we must consider every eventuality.

"The other issue is somewhat defence related and is the subject of Nimbata. Currenlty our government is keen to achive the military objectives set out by the govenrment and in order to assist we are considering a major financial and economic aid package that would include oil, weapons and money. The question we have is that we would like to know to what extent Ferrussia intends to continue their military involvemnt in the conflict."
Ferrussia
29-11-2003, 18:16
Baroque Hall, Mariinsky Palace

"I understand completely," said Kasyanov. "The Ferrussian government has been stable for an incredibly long time, but there's nothing to say that we won't be dragged into a civil war in a few years. Such conditions and safeguards will definately need to be in place, but as I said earlier, I feel we should concentrate more on the broader purposes at work here. We can hammer out the details tomorrow.

"Ah, Nimbata. Well, it seems we are being drawn more and more into this conflict every day. Public sentiment is questionable about the war, but our troops are pinned down, and pulling out now would likely mean defeat to Nimbata. In addition, several public announcements have been made against the NLA, condemning them for their use of chemical weapons on Namhkam and the forces in it. We have been drawn too far into this war to pull out now, so we are doing all that we can do: sending in more troops. Just a few days ago, President Yavlinsky made an announcement that Ferrussian deployments into Nimbata would be increasing over the next few weeks.

"My personal advice to your country, Mr. Goldstein, is that you stay as much as possible out of it. Financial and resource aid to Nimbata is a brilliant idea, but this is not a war that will be won or lost. The NLA, we know, is hopeless. But they do have the ability to impose enough casualties on us to make this a very unpleasant experience, and possibly to turn our own public against us. Even if it is won, the nature of the war will require that soldiers be stationed in Nimbata for years to come simply to prevent the same thing from occurring again."
Omz222
30-11-2003, 08:03
Green Living Room, Mariinsky Palace

"I agree completely," said Yavlinsky. "So military technologies will be traded, but not explicitly required.

"Now, as for economic aspects of the treaty - what ideas do you have?"

"On our chart, we propose a full economic 'alliance'. For example, we could promote joint ventures, encourage constant trade among us 3 nations, and even grant loans to each other when needed. But overall we admit that the idea is still sketchy."
United Elias
30-11-2003, 13:00
Baroque Hall, Mariinsky Palace

"I understand completely," said Kasyanov. "The Ferrussian government has been stable for an incredibly long time, but there's nothing to say that we won't be dragged into a civil war in a few years. Such conditions and safeguards will definately need to be in place, but as I said earlier, I feel we should concentrate more on the broader purposes at work here. We can hammer out the details tomorrow.

"Ah, Nimbata. Well, it seems we are being drawn more and more into this conflict every day. Public sentiment is questionable about the war, but our troops are pinned down, and pulling out now would likely mean defeat to Nimbata. In addition, several public announcements have been made against the NLA, condemning them for their use of chemical weapons on Namhkam and the forces in it. We have been drawn too far into this war to pull out now, so we are doing all that we can do: sending in more troops. Just a few days ago, President Yavlinsky made an announcement that Ferrussian deployments into Nimbata would be increasing over the next few weeks.

"My personal advice to your country, Mr. Goldstein, is that you stay as much as possible out of it. Financial and resource aid to Nimbata is a brilliant idea, but this is not a war that will be won or lost. The NLA, we know, is hopeless. But they do have the ability to impose enough casualties on us to make this a very unpleasant experience, and possibly to turn our own public against us. Even if it is won, the nature of the war will require that soldiers be stationed in Nimbata for years to come simply to prevent the same thing from occurring again."

"I suppose it depends on whether you believe the fight is worth winning, i n this case I'm not sure why the spread of communism in East Asia is any concern of ours, but it seems most of the government and the military disagree, therefore my hands are tied and I can only represent the views of my government. It is not my decuision to get involved and the decision is made so all I can do is try and reduce the casualties and make this as easy as possible."
Clan Smoke Jaguar
03-12-2003, 17:14
Green Living Room, Mariinsky Palace

"I agree completely," said Yavlinsky. "So military technologies will be traded, but not explicitly required.

"Now, as for economic aspects of the treaty - what ideas do you have?"

"On our chart, we propose a full economic 'alliance'. For example, we could promote joint ventures, encourage constant trade among us 3 nations, and even grant loans to each other when needed. But overall we admit that the idea is still sketchy."
"Yes, there's still much to decide on with the economic aspects, but one of the things we'd like most is an open free trade agreement, with no taxes or tarriffs on imports or exports between our nations. It would most certainly provide an economic boost, and serve to drive us closer as well."
Ferrussia
03-12-2003, 18:59
Baroque Room, Mariinsky Palace

"Well, with any luck your nation won't be dragged too far into it. Ferrussia has made far to much of a public and military commitment to pull out now, and if the NLA is not completely dissolved at the end of this conflict, we may be policing Nimbata for a long time to come. You wanted our planned involvement -- my guess is that Ferrussian troops will be in Nimbata far after this war is over. Maybe years, maybe decades. We can't know, but we are in it for the long haul.

"If we're agreed on the economic proposals you have made, I'm sure both of us would appreciate a good night's rest. It's getting late, and I have a lot to go over. I would like to resume talks late tomorrow morning, but we'll have to talk to the scheduling staff and see what we can do. I'll most likely be meeting with you again, and I'll be sure to contact your embassy tonight when I have more reliable information on time and place. I look forward to working out the specifics, Minister Goldstien. Have an excellent night."


Green Living Room, Mariinsky Palace

"Both excellent ideas," said Yavlinsky. "We certainly planned on an economic 'alliance' of sorts, and free trade, while providing a temporary setback, will most certainly have tremendous long-term gains. Perhaps a trade organization of sorts could be established to oversee trade between our nations, or maybe just economic centers of communication would work better. Encouraging increased travel and shipping between our nations would definately be increased with a free trade agreement, and loosening inventment and interaction laws with overseas companies in the case of CSJ and Omz will certainly be considered.

"One of our concerns, however, is that the CSJ and Omzian arms manufacturing industries will quite literally wash out what remains of the Ferrussian arms industry. To counter this, we would greatly appreciate two different options: CSJ and Omz help supplement and support Ferrussian arms manufacturing, or CSJMI and OMASC set up offices and branches in Ferrussia, essentially 'letting us in' to these industrial giants. I realize that these may seem extreme, or harmful to business, but it's something that both myself and many economical and military leaders feel strongly about. This may be the first of many comprimises we have to make in the process of negotiations -- we will see.

"At any rate, I would like if we could pick these talks up tomorrow, rather than continue any later into this night," he said, looking out the pitch black windows. "Palace staff will be glad to show you to your rooms, and if you need anything - anything at all - please don't hesitate to ask. We can pick this up tomorrow, after we've all had a chance to ponder and sleep on the points raised tonight. Thank you for your patience and cooperation, and good night."

With that, he stood and shook the hands of both ambassadors, then turned to leave the room. He walked through the quiet marble halls of the palace to his own room. Kasyanov was waiting outside.

For a few minutes, they talked about what had occurred in either meeting, and what to expect tomorrow. Kasyanov was in for a late night - a lot had to be coordinated for tomorrow, and it looked like Ferrussia may be applying for UNAOTO membership under advice from Edolia. For the Secretary of Foreign Affairs, negotiating with 5 different countries at once meant a lot of late nights for some time to come.

They exchanged good nights, and Yavlinsky went to bed. For a few minutes, he thought on the successes of the meeting, and thought of the coming negotiations.

There was much to be done.
Clan Smoke Jaguar
04-12-2003, 06:03
"Well, it's been a pleasure Mr Yavlinsky, and I look forward to continuing this tomorrow." With that Ambassador Kotare followed the palace staff member to his room. "Someone could get used to this" he thought to himself as he began to settle down. This was definately a very nice place, and the splendor was only magnified by the potential of the negotiations.
Before going to bed, Kotare, as was his habit, took out a notepad and started scribbling some things down, lest he forget something in his sleep. After he was certain that he had everything he needed, he climbed into bed,
Omz222
04-12-2003, 06:19
The Omzian Ambassador nodded happily, and then replied in another flood of Omzian-accented English. "Of course, these agreements and encouragements will bring our economies a lot more fortune. We however, also second the Free Trade Agreement proposal. But how we do it exactly, that's up to our economic boards. We could propose more lax laws and regulations, more ways to have goods delivered cheap and efficently, and less tax on shipments.

"About the arms manufacturing business concern however, we must note that keeping OMASC limited 'within their boundaries' so that it would not litterally wash out Ferrussian arms manufacturing industries. However, even though Omzian Military Aerospace Corporation is influenced by the Omzian Homeland Defence Forces, or OHDF, OMASC is an independent company, and therefore, we need to negotiate with them to set up branches and offices in Ferrussia. This should help to promote our arms to Ferrussian militaries, and may even get special contracts.

"As for the meeting, it has been a very meaningful one. Certainly a pleasure and honor to meet you Mr. Yavlinsky, we are looking forward to continue these negotations."

As that is done, the Omzian Ambassador looked out of the dark sky. He could see the faraway stars, that also shines on his motherland. Yet, he is far away, representing his motherland. He looked outside for a moment, then peeking the structures of the palace, before going into his room with the guiance of the palace staff. Nice food, nice meeting, nice people, and nice staff. Perfect. "Thank you," he said as the palace staff guided him into the splendor room. An amazing place to stay.

Quickly, he typed a few notes about the meeting into his trusty laptop, before exchanging a few emails with the Diplomatic Corps at Osaria. A faraway ahead. With that, he had a quick shower and changed, since Omzians put a lot of attention on personal cleaniness and appearance. A tiring but meaninful night, he thought, as he climbed into the luxurious bed.
Ferrussia
05-12-2003, 04:49
President's Room, Mariinsky Palace

Yavlinsky awoke from his restful sleep - the first in a long while - feeling relatively energetic. At the brisk hour of 5:30, it was hard to be energetic, but he was feeling good.

He jumped in the shower, and spent a few minutes relaxing under the torrent of hot water. Then, throwing on a robe, he got out and did his daily hygenic round - shave, brush teeth...

Anton, the Personal Assistant to the President, knocked politely on the large double doors.

"Come in," said Yavlinsky. The young man was always cheerful and respectful, but rarely brought good news.

Opening the doors, he walked over to the President. "Mr. President, it's not looking good. It's about Fyreheart."

Yavlinsky sighed and took the papers, brushing his teeth as he did. As he read, Anton summarized for him.

"Five more nukes have gone missing, and intel thinks that they might be stealing from themselves."

"Thank you, Anton. I'll look over this in a bit," said Yavlinsky through a mouth full of toothpaste.

Anton nodded and walked out of the room, closing the doors quietly behind him.

And it had been such a good morning.

*****

Green Living Room, Mariinsky Palace - 8:25 am

President Yavlinsky waited patiently, going over some of the economic reports that had been prepared for him, and the feedback that had come from the military advisers. He was early for the scheduled 8:30 meeting because it would look rude any way else - how could he be last to arrive in his own house?

So he looked over the papers once more, waiting to greet the first ambassador.

*****

Message to the Embassy of United Elias

Your meeting with Secretary Kasyanov has been set for 10:30 this morning, with a photo shoot immediately after your arrival. We hope this does not pose any conflicts. Feel free to contact us with any questions.

Thank you.

Ferrussian Department of Foreign Affairs - Mariinsky Palace
Ferrussia
06-12-2003, 01:07
*cough*bump*cough*
Omz222
06-12-2003, 01:35
*cough*bump*cough*
OOC: Just a Q, when will my ambassador and CSJ's be able to meet your president again? And are my/CSJ's ambassadors free to work and be entertained? :P
Ferrussia
06-12-2003, 01:37
...
*****

Green Living Room, Mariinsky Palace - 8:25 am

President Yavlinsky waited patiently, going over some of the economic reports that had been prepared for him, and the feedback that had come from the military advisers. He was early for the scheduled 8:30 meeting because it would look rude any way else - how could he be last to arrive in his own house?

So he looked over the papers once more, waiting to greet the first ambassador.

*****

...

The "scheduled 8:30 meeting" is you two. :wink:
Clan Smoke Jaguar
06-12-2003, 03:41
Green Living Room, Mariinsky Palace - 8:28 am
Ambassador Kotare was in good spirits this morning. He'd not only had a restful sleep, but his query to CSJMI the previous night had actually been answered promptly (a truly rare occurrence indeed :P ), and the news was definately quite good, though not entirely unexpected. As he walked down the hall, he glanced at his watch, noting that he was still slightly early - a good thing in this business.
Upon entering the room, he noticed Yavlinsky was already here, also hardly surprising. He promptly made his way over and greeted his host. "Ah, good morning Mr. President."
Omz222
06-12-2003, 04:03
Guest Bedroom
The Omzian Ambassador (OOC: Forgot his last name :P ) woke early the next morning. Only 6:01am this morning, which is considered late for any ambassador. He certainly had a comfortable sleep, kicking his spirits high the following morning of the second meeting. As he had another short shower, and dressed, he immediately went to a dinner table and set up his laptop. Looking at the screen and tapping the screen with a pen, he finally received some news. Emails... Great News Indeed. From FWD: Diplomatic Corps Annual Party Celebration to RE: Nagla Treaty Proposal. There's also something else... RE: Diplomatic Meeting to Ferrussia -- Issues -- OMASC. Quickly, he clicked the first. He remembered the email he sent to a whole list of addresses, but the reply from the OMASC is certainly a top priority.

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QUOTE: See attached.

We are well aware of Ferrussia's intention to coopreate with OMASC, and to have OMASC offices set in the nation of Ferrussia. We have also received the news that Ferrussia has intentions to share technologies with OMASC. While we do have great desire to comply, this is a serious matter we have to discuss with the Administration Boards. We will reply to you soon.

Also, on a non-related news, OMASC's name will be changed upon a proposal -- to "Gamon-Heansse Aerosapce Corporation". The public does not know much, but expect more updates.

Daniel R. Jameson,
Omzian Military Aerospace Corporation
OMASC - Vision, Goal, Reliability.

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Excellent... the Ambassador thought as he crafted out his reply. Still have about 40 email to go!

***************************

Green Living Room, Mariinsky Palace. 8:26 am

The Omzian Ambassador certainly had a great feeling. Sorted out many businesses he have, he quickly notified the palace staff and stepped into the room, after he typed something on his Personal Digital Assistant and reading the time on his watch. Wearing a business suit, he stepped into the room, just as he saw Yavlinsky and the CSJ Ambassador coming.

"Good morning, Mr. President Yavlinsky, I certainly had a good rest today," the Ambassador greeted politely as he switched his attention to Ambassador Kotare. "Good morning, Ambassador Kotare. Nice to see all of us here."
Ferrussia
06-12-2003, 07:00
Green Living Room, Mariinsky Palace

Shaking the hands of both Ambassadors, Yavlinsky invited them to sit down.

"I hope you understand," he began, "but we've arranged for a photo shoot with the press. They should be here-"

He was cut short by a few well dressed photographers, each with a "MARIINSKY PALACE - AUTHORIZED VISITOR" pass around their necks. Immediately, they got down on their knees, setting up for pictures.

"Well, alright then," said the President. He made several posed handshakes with the two Ambassadors, and then they had several shots taken of them talking while sitting in the large, comfortable chairs of the Green Living room - photographers coaching the whole time. After a few minutes of this, the photographers seemed satisfied, and left the three to their business.

"Today," he began, "we have quite a bit of work to do. We need to hammer out a written alliance, but fortunately Kasyanov and a few aides were able to type up a rough draft last night. (OOC: I'll be making it up as I go, so I would encourage you to mention any changes, additions, deletions, etc. you feel should occur. Feel free to be finicky about anything - even word choice. We can debate them ICly as we go.) Here is a copy for each of you," he said, handing out papers to the two ambassadors, "and we can make changes as we go. I hope to have the completed thing done by later today, but we can take all the time we need."

At the top of the page was the introduction.

*****

We, the undersigned soverign states, have in the interest of mutual peace, protection, and advancement, set forth this document to serve as a binding agreement and alliance between the undersigned. We hereby agree to the following terms, and in doing so hope to make the undersigned states safer and more prosperous. It is our wish that the undersigned nations grow closer together, both diplomatically and economically; militarilly and personally.

SECTION I - VALIDITY OF ALLIANCE

ARTICLE I - Negation of terms
The terms of this document will be binding to the undersigned soverign states at any and all times, and can only be negated if the following circumstances apply, as decided by two of the three undersigned states, or any one nation officially files a written request of dissolution to both of the remaining two parties. The conditions under which the terms can be negated are:

- Extreme governmental change by any one undersigned party
- A deliberate act of aggression, especially military, by one undersigned party against another
- Continued failure of any one undersigned party to follow the terms herein
- Any extreme or particular circumstances under which any one party may come to great harm unless this treaty is dissolved

ARTICLE II - Definition of terms
The following terms are to be used as described here througout the entirety of this document.

- Undersigned, Party, State, Nation, etc.: Refers to one or all of the undersigned soverign states, particularly their government, and all afilliated property, persons, resources, well-being, and assets, in addition to all territory, assets, and peoples under the control and/or jurisdiction of said government.

- Opinion/decision (of undersigned state): Refers to the general opinion, stance, feeling, or direct decision or announcement made by the government of the indicated state, especially that made by or supported by the Head of State or other officials with such ability - such as representatives and/or ambassadors.

- Military action: Includes, but is not limited to, direct acts with agressive force, particularly with enlisted persons, associated vehicles, weapons, and ordinance, strategic/cruse missiles, military naval and air assets, or other such force. When in reference to an attack on the undersigned, can also include condoned terrorist, militarist, or strategic action against the undersigned.

- Civilians: Any and all individuals within a state, as well as the associated infrastructure, buildings, and other assets used by said individuals.

(OOC: Any more?)

ARTICLE III - Amendment of terms
Should at least two of the three undersigned feel that any part of this alliance should be amended, added to, deleted, or otherwise changed, and the manner in which this should be done is agreed upon by two of the three states, such amendment will take full effectivity and said terms will be applied immediately, unless otherwise stated in the amendment.

ARTICLE IV - Enforcement of terms
While it seems unlikely, in the event that any of these terms must be applied with force to one of the states, such can be done only with diplomatic means. Military action or action against civilians of said country are strictly prohibited under the terms of this alliance. Should the two remaining states feel a term should be enforced in the third state, such can be done cooperatively, so long as such action stays within the bounds of this alliance, and particularly this article.

*****

"So, that's Section I. What do you think? Any changes? Additions?" asked Yavlinsky.
Omz222
06-12-2003, 07:35
Green Living Room, Mariinsky Palace

As the Ambassador did the pose handshakes and smiles, he was confident that the meeting would go well, and that he have a good report for the Diplomatic Corp's "Boss Team" -- the administration of the Foreign Affairs Ministry. While refreshing things he have to remember through his mind, he did more poses. With a gentle smile, and a look of confidence on the Ferrussian President, he sat down on the comfortable chair. he is used to these kinds of visits anyways. Only this time, without aides and even translators. Although he wanted his photo to be in the OSNN headlines, he still tried to make himself less "posing", and refocused his minds on the actual business he was here for -- an alliance with Ferrussia and Clan Smoke Jaguar.

"Well, thank you very much," the Omzian Ambassador thanked with a confident smile as he grabbed the batch of papers. "We do have various suggestions for additions and changes, although we suppose that most are included," he finished with a statement before he read the paper, still with his glasses on. He skimmed the paper thoughtfully. The sunshine shined on the frame of his 80s-style glasses, the black-greyish hair showing his age. After a brief moment though, he broke the silence.

"Well, I can personally say that you have done an outstanding job in this, although I'd still perfer a few changes, if you don't mind. First, we'd like to have the term 'aggression' in Article I. As you know, aggression can come in different forms: diplomatic, economic, military, etc. Sometimes spying and gathering intelligence in various illegit forms can also be an aggresion, of course. We are sure that clarifying 'aggression' can bring the treaty more clear.

"As for military action, I do not feel that it is necessary to state the different kind of 'missiles'. Just 'ordinance' or even 'munitions' can take the place of this.

"As for Article II, as related to Article I, we would like to have a definition of 'aggresion', plus 'governmental change'. Both terms are highly variable, and may be able to confuse us in the future. By defining them what they will mean in this treaty will of course, clear up a lot of things and avoid further confusion. In addition, we wonder if it is possible to also explain 'mutual' in this definition, incase we have various confusions on this subject.

"For Article III, we feel it is more suitable for all states to agree on an amendment change. This way, we are sure no one is going to be upset, therefore causing massive disarray, confusion, and disputes. Certainly, we don't want disputes inside our own alliance. For Article IV, we must request to have 'diplomatic means' to be changed to a statement such as 'non-aggresive diplomatic means', since aggresion can also be taken in the forum of diplomatic means. This way, we should miminalize confusion.

"Over all, I'm sorry to make too much changes, but I'm sure that these will bring a prevention to further confusions throughout the years. Now I will give the opportuntiy to Mr. Kotare."
Omz222
08-12-2003, 03:15
Bump -- anyone seen CSJ?
Ferrussia
08-12-2003, 03:23
(OOC: I saw him on once or twice, but he never responded to this. :? )
Clan Smoke Jaguar
08-12-2003, 04:25
OOC: Computer trouble again :x

IC:
Ambassador Kotare put on his best smile for the photo shoot, with the way the talks were going having no small effect on his expression. He then thanked the President again as he took the draft and began skimming himself. After the Omzian Ambassador finished, he looked through for a little longer before speaking up. "Well, except for the suggestions my esteemed counterpart has already made, I can see nothing wrong. However, I would like to make it clear that I am in full agreement with the notion that all three members should agree for any amendments to be made."
08-12-2003, 04:31
Mr. Walker awakes in his room . He sees a newspaper next to his bed and begins reading about local Ferrussian events.


[ooc: at least I think he should still be there.]
Ferrussia
08-12-2003, 05:33
(OOC: Sliponia, yep, your ambassador should still be here, but your meeting with Kasyanov won't be until after UE's... sorry.)

Green Living Room, Mariinsky Palace

"Those are good suggestions, thank you. I, too, was debating whether it should be 2 or all of the nations required to make an amendment, and I wholeheartedly agree that it should be the latter. I'll be sure to get those additional changes and definitions in, and we may add more as we continue with the text of the alliance."

Yavlinsky continued on to Section II.

SECTION II - MILITARY ALLIANCE

ARTICLE I - Mutual protection
The undersigned states will protect each other from military attacks by foreign entities on any one of the undersigned states with military, diplomatic, and economic aid. Military aid is to be in sufficient quantity to provide sufficient force, as determined by the remaining two states. Diplomatic aid (such as vocal support) is to be required, but military and economic aid are exempted to an undersigned state under the following circumstances:

No aid will be required if:
- The state being attacked expressly states to the remaining two states that it does not require help.

Economic aid will not be required if:
- If military aid is given, economic aid will not be required.
- An undersigned state is in an economic state such that economic aid would be extremely harmful and/or impossible, as determined by the remaining two states.

Military aid will not be required if:
- Military assistance would leave an undersigned nation extremely vulnerable, and/or unable to carry out necessary functions, as decided by the remaining two states.
- Military assistance would lead to an extreme consequence, such as invasion by a significant third-party source (again determined by the remaining two states).
- Unbearable nuclear threat is placed on any nation supporting the attacked nation.
- It is deemed by both remaining states that the attacked nation deliberately caused the course of events which led to the attack.

It should be noted that these are only instances in which military and/or economic aid is not REQUIRED, and any undersigned state may carry out military/economic aid under any of these circumstances if it is willing.

ARTICLE II - Support of offensive measures
All undersigned nations are exempt from aiding another undersigned state if the state in question is performing a military attack which is not on its own claimed land.

ARTICLE III - Military crosstraining
Programs are to be put in place within all undersigned states in which a minimum of one (1) division-sized force, one (1) wing of aircraft, and one (1) fleet-sized naval force is trained in the tactics and strategem of the remaining two states' forces. In addition, this program is to make provisions for the training of the same number of forces from the other two states.

Permanent military liasons are to be made to the other two undersigned nations, who will coordinate any military issues between the two nations. Provisions are to be made at top military command facilities for such liasons to stay from the other two undersigned nations.

ARTICLE IV - Military bases
The undersigned nations are to lease land to the other two undersigned nations for the construction of military bases belonging to the other undersigned nations. Each base is to have construction fees paid by the nation using the base, and command of the base will rest with the nation using the base, not the nation in whose land the base exists. Airspace and land use outside of the base are to be negotiated between the two countries, with the country in whose land the base exists recieving the final say on any such matters. However, sufficent access must be given to the site that the units stationed there recieve adequate supplies for their survival and operation.

So long as the amount of land used for bases by each nation remains the same, no fees are to be charged for the land itself, and charges for utilities and the like are to be kept at the market average or lower. Full visas are to be provided to the residents of the base and their families (if requested). If one nation has more land in another nation then that nation does in return, the nation using less land may request that, for a sufficent price - as decided by the remaining state - the difference in land be charged for annually. However, this is optional, and for the sake of the stability of the alliance, it is suggested that no payments be required unless there is a quite significant difference.

Naval provisions are to be required, insomuch that any of the undersigned nations may bring their fleets into port in another undersigned nation - provided they pay for the goods they use and do not force naval assets of the nation to whom the ports belong to make unusual arrangements. If this is to be done, the military liasons (as mentioned in Article III) are to notify the nation that this will be done at least one (1) week or seven (7) days before such a docking takes place, and the duration of the stay is to be negotiated then.

Any emergency needs or provisions more generous than those in this article can be negotiated by the two countries involved at any time, and it is suggested that nations be more generous than this article requires.

ARTICLE V - Support of Operations
Any undersigned nation is encouraged to support any military engagements of another undersigned nation by allowing military assets of the other nation to refuel, rearm, etc. at the military facilites of the original nation. However, such use of their own military bases is not required.
Omz222
08-12-2003, 05:55
OOC: CSJ, your internet and computer needs some upgrade, no offense :P

IC:

The Omzian Ambassador, just as he got the paper, quickly read over it. He surely reads fast. He loved reading, ever since he's in grade school. heck, he even got a Language Study degree aside from Political Science and Law degrees.

Just after a minute or two, he spoke again. "Well-done draft, as usual, but I do also find somethings to correct. Firstly, while I feel that while Articles I is complete enough, I do feel that the part regarding 'if the state is performing an attack which is not on its own land' in Article II should be changed to '...performing a military attack which is not on its own claimed land and water, since the term of land generally describes terrain, and not usually the area which a nation claims.

I also see a bit of flaws in Article III. First of all, for number 1, we feel that the statement about 'division-sized force' is extremely vague, and can cause massive confustion. Since we are sure that different nations has different military organization methods, and that 'force' doesn't necessarily mean 'army', we feel it is necessarily to describe how large the 'division-sized force' is. Same applies to 2 and 3 about aircraft and naval force. Aside from that, we also feel that it is needed to specify what kind of aircraft the undersigned will contribute. Surely, there are too many kinds of aircraft. Perhaps 'combat aircraft' can do the true.

For Article IV, we feel the need to be clarified about whether it is necessary to have the construction materials and crews to be provided by the nation using the base, aside from the standard fees. Aside from that, we don't really have other suggestions for this section, nor for Article V."
Ferrussia
08-12-2003, 06:05
Green Living Room, Mariinsky Palace

Yavlinsky nodded. "Thank you for your wise suggestions. Might I add that the passage in Article I could read "not in its claimed territory"? This term would suggest all area - land, water, or air - claimed by the nation in question, and would better suit the passage, I'm sure.

"Perhaps we could add definitions of divisions, wings, and battle groups in Section I, Article I? The addition of "combat" divisions, wings, and battle groups is a fine suggestion indeed, and can be incorporated in the next draft.

"As per Article IV, it was the feeling of the aides writing the text that 'construction fees' would include payments for the materials and crew. This is because the base will likely be contracted out to a construction company, and it is significantly easier to pay a construction company in the area to fulfill this job, rather than fly in crews and materials from one's own country. It is for this reason that we chose 'construction fees' to express paying for the entirety of the construction of the base, whoever actually builds the site is left open. Perhaps Ambassador Kotare would care to comment on the issue?"
Omz222
08-12-2003, 06:13
"No problem, but I do apologize about my mistake about the first issue.

About the second issue, we do feel it could be useful to have these etrms added to Section I, Article I. This way, we could know what we are talking about, obviously.

About Article IV, however, we also see the reason. But as a final suggestion, I feel that we still need to clarify what the fee actually covers."
Clan Smoke Jaguar
08-12-2003, 06:30
After looking over the draft for the secon section (and listening to the others' comments), Kotare spoke up again. "The issues of whether or not the local population is involved in the construction should be a choice up to the nation constructing the base. After all, they will be the ones who have to make do with it. As long as it says all construction fees, there's no real need to specify, as they will be there regardless of who's building the base. However, I think it would seem that having the local population provide the labor and most of the materials would be a great help, as the locals will most certainly appreciate the extra jobs and income that they would get from it, and that would make the transition much easier."
"As for Article III, that will require a bit more discussion, but I would suggest having a division of 15-20,000 troops; one air wing, preferably a mixed/composite one; and one naval squadron or goup, most likely a carrier battle group. I do believe that the use of the term "fleet" in describing the naval unit is a very poor choice though, as that usually denotes a regional force. A squadron or group would be much more in tune with the sizes for the other branches that have been noted."
Ferrussia
08-12-2003, 06:37
Green Living Room, Mariinsky Palace

"The original word choice for Article III was "battle group", but it seems to have been changed since then (OOC: I honestly remember typing in 'battle group', but must've changed it). I do believe we could do with additional discussion on the terms used in Article III, however I think we should stick to the basic concept of the text until we have some military analysts who can clarify the issue (OOC: don't want to get bogged down in that for now). As for Article IV, we can surely specify that 'all construction costs' will be paid for by the controller of the base, and unless the Omzian ambassador has any objections, I believe it should do. Should we need a more specific entry, it could perhaps be along the lines that 'any and all costs for the contstruction of buildings, facilities, runways, etc. shall be paid for by...'. We could also define 'costs' in S-I, A-I if you like."

"Any further comments? Or should we move on to Section III?"


(OOC: On a complete side-note, I'm starting work on a website for Ferrussia:

http://www.boomspeed.com/ferret_guy/fer1.jpg (http://y2ksean.tripod.com)
Omz222
08-12-2003, 06:38
"Very well, we feel that this should wrap up Section II."
United Elias
08-12-2003, 17:54
OOC:

where do I stand.
Ferrussia
08-12-2003, 18:53
OOC: UE, you can RP arriving at the palace at any time to begin final talks with Kasyanov. There's no set timeline, so we can just say that it's time for the meeting.

IC:

Green Living Room, Mariinsky Palace

President Yavlinsky nodded. "I suppose it's time to move on to Section III."

SECTION III - DIPLOMATIC ALLIANCE

ARTICLE I - Diplomatic affiliation
While the undersigned nations will remain seperate, soveriegn states, they are to support each other diplomatically as often as possible. This includes voicing diplomatic support for each other during conflict, public support by the government for the other states as a whole, and the establishment of permanent diplomatic relations between the three nations.

Embassies from the other two nations are to be established in each state, preferably in the capital or another important diplomatic area. The embassies are to be granted the soverign right of their respective nation, and will be maintained and protected by the respective nation. These embassies are to provide quick and reliable access to diplomatic means with their respective country, and shall be required to be constantly maintained by diplomatic personnel, except in time of war or great danger.

ARTICLE II - Diplomatic provisions
Each undersigned nation is to make all provisions avaliable to condone each of the undersigned nations. It is to be publicly known that the undersigned states are diplomatically allied. However, support of the governmental type and/or leader is not to be strictly required, but instead encouraged.

Each undersigned nation must be willing and able to make provisions for emergency diplomatic meetings regarding important internal and international events. The members of the alliance are encouraged to talk together through diplomatic meetings before making any major joint international decisions/actions, particularly those military in nature.
Omz222
09-12-2003, 04:45
Once again, the Omzian Ambassador skimmed over quietly and thoughtfully, and then came up with a few suggestions, as he said with a gental smile. "Well, for Article I, we would appreciate it if the term 'conflict' in the first paragraph can be defined more. As said, there are, of course, different kinds of 'conflicts', such as military conflict, land dispute, and etc. Making this clear will cause less confustion, of course.

Aside from that, we wonder if Section III can have more details on who the responsibility of constructing the embassy building would belong to.

For Article II, I have no problem with it."
Ferrussia
09-12-2003, 05:23
Green Living Room, Mariinsky Palace

"Well," begain Yavlinsky, "as the passage in Article I you refer to is a guideline, I don't feel its overly important to define - considering that no requirements come of it, simply a word of advice.

"As for your suggestion regarding the embassies, I'm glad you brought it up. I'll be sure it get's in the next draft. The second line of that paragraph could go something like this: '...and will be paid for, maintained, and protected by the respective nation.' Any objections? And how about you, Ambassador Kotare?"
Clan Smoke Jaguar
09-12-2003, 13:02
"I'm inclined to agree with President Yavlinsky on this. Everything appears to be fine here, except for the embassy costs, which, as noted, should be paid by the nation using it."
10-12-2003, 03:22
(OOC: Sliponia, yep, your ambassador should still be here, but your meeting with Kasyanov won't be until after UE's... sorry.)

[ooc: No worries]
Omz222
10-12-2003, 03:25
The Omzian Ambassador smiled gentlelly, and then continued on. "As Mr. Kotare said, we don't have any objections to Section III now. Perhaps it would be best to continue on."
Ferrussia
10-12-2003, 06:38
SECTION IV - ECONOMIC ALLIANCE

ARTICLE I - Free trade
The undersigned nations are to allow and enforce free trade (that being without tariff, additional tax, etc.) between the three undersigned nations in the hopes of creating a much more self-supporting economy between the nations.

ARTICLE II - Economic coordination
The undersigned nations are to encourage the establishment of public trade forums and summits between the nations, and should do their best to exchange economic advisers to ensure that the actions of one country will not adversely affect another. It is suggested by the text of this alliance that trade summits be organized annually between the three nations.

ARTICLE III - Economic freedom
The undersigned nations are to assist in the support of each other's economies as they deem fit; however, they are to recognize the right of each nation to enact their own laws regarding economics and the flow of money, and shall not interfere with this right. Each nation will maintain a seperate economy and seperate strategies, and no overall plan is to be forcibly placed on all three nations against their will.

(OOC: I can't think of anything else, for this section or for any additional sections. Any ideas on articles or sections to add? Otherwise this will be the end of the treaty and I will post a near-final draft after this section is edited.

And to all the nations involved: Omz, CSJ, UE, and Sliponia: do you have AIM or MSN? If so, could you post/TG your sn? It could help alot with OOC coordination. Thanks.)
Omz222
10-12-2003, 06:54
OOC: I'll skip the IC part due to the reason I'm about to go to sleep. However, I do have MSN (though my AIM account was... abadoned): nata287_7@hotmail.com
Ferrussia
10-12-2003, 07:04
OOC: Oh, BTW, mine is happyferret@hotmail.com for MSN, and pwebferret for AIM
Clan Smoke Jaguar
10-12-2003, 08:00
OOC: When I can get them working, my MSN is timberwolf3060@hotmail.com
and my AIM is direwolf4012
United Elias
10-12-2003, 16:10
The Minsiter's motorcade pulled up at the Marinsky Place for the second day of talks, He stepped u the large steps flanked by aides and agents ready to meet with Kysanov.
Omz222
11-12-2003, 02:33
"First of all, I feel Article I is too brief and short, and do not effectively explain even what 'free trade' is. Because of that, we'd suggest a major change. That is, in Article I, include what 'free trade' in this case includes, plus the goals the parties desires to attain from the economic alliance.

For Article II, I feel that it is not full enough. One of our inital ideas for the economic alliance is to also encourage joint ventures, for example joint projects on technology, aviation, and space. But as this article is being corrected, we will have more sugges tions.

For Article III however, we feel it to be a need to have examples of 'support each other's economies". Otherwise, we would be very confused on how this treaty actually encourages us to 'support' each other's economies.

Of course, that is all for now. I will switch to Mr. Kotare."
Clan Smoke Jaguar
11-12-2003, 02:44
"I am in agreement that the first article is too short and needs to explain "free trade" in more detail. Article II looks fine as it is, but as my counterpart has noted, there might be other things we want to add in. For Article III, I agree that we will want to be a little more detailed in explaining how we are to support each other's economies. As it is, that's just too vague."
Ferrussia
13-12-2003, 05:04
Green Living Room, Mariinsky Palace

"Very well, then," said Yavlinsky. "I'll have the diplomatic aides go over it, and then we can go over the final copy. (OOC: a temporary excuse to get out of rewriting the sections... I'm pretty busy right now :wink: )

"In the meantime, however, we have much to discuss. Recent events in both Omz and here in Ferrussia have brought up concerns, and I'd like to talk to you directly. Say we take a stroll in the yard? I've learned it is good to get outside every now and then, it's good for the soul. Please, come."

He waved the two ambassadors out to the magnificent yard behind the palace. Green was everywhere, and the water reflected the cool morning sun. There was a bit of bite to the wind - fall was coming in - and birds chirped and sang to each other. Some noticed the new arrivals and began to swoop down around the three men, followed by several of the President's guards.

"Perhaps we should discuss the tensions between Ferrussia and Fyreheart. What are your opinions?"
Ferrussia
13-12-2003, 06:57
ka-BUMP
Omz222
13-12-2003, 07:08
"Well, very good. About the Fyreheartian crisis, as I've received some email regarding it, we need to discuss." Just as the Omzian Ambassador went into the yard and commented, "beautiful place," he had a few things in mind. Just as the Ferrussian president spoke again, he answered swiftly but with more of a serious tune, glancing over at the beautiful water with the reflection of the birds, and then back. "Well, Mr. President, in my opinion, this situation got to cool off. The Fyreheartian response, as the Foreign Affairs Ministry just emailed me last night, is what we've expected anyways. With the additional support, I must say that this situation could possibly degrade into an armed conflict, if not, a war. As always, we encourage all sides to find peaceful resolutions, and hope that nothing more can heaten up the tension."

OOC: Note that my Ambassador doesn't know about ple plane crashes, etc. yet :P
Clan Smoke Jaguar
14-12-2003, 11:29
"We would hope for a peaceful solution to this crisis, but judging from recent actions, I'd say that Fyreheart actually wants a war, in which case, we will lend what help we can. I must say that I'm most disappointed in the Fyreheartian propaganda."
"Really," he chuckled, "accusing a foreign national of treason. I can't think of many better ways to ensure that everyone knows the trial's a sham."
Omz222
15-12-2003, 07:16
OOC: BUMP for Ferrussia -- someone needs to get this going :P
Ferrussia
15-12-2003, 07:24
OOC: lol, sorry...

IC:

One of the guards walking at a distance behind the three men held his finger to his ear, attempting to better hear the transmission over his earpiece. Nodding, he quickly paced up to the President.

"I agree, Mr. Kot-" Yavlinsky was cut short by the guard. Whispers were exchanged, and the President nodded.

"I'm terribly sorry, but it seems a threat has just come up with one of our neighbors... The other guard will escort you to your rooms, where you can feel free to request a tour of the Palace or something else. Again, terribly sorry, but it seems there are some military issues to attend to..."

With that, he and the guard hurried back to the palace, the guard saying something about a "motorcade to Ferrussian Military Command Center".

The second guard came forward to escort the ambassadors, who were no doubt a bit worried by what's going on.

"It seems the Skibs have announced their intentions to assist Fyreheart. There may be an invasion, and in such an event you could be flown out of the country if necessary. Diplomatic aides are working on the final draft of the alliance, and hopefully the President will be avaliable for the signing."


(OOC: This is to explain how in the other thread, the President is now at the War Room in the Ferrussian Military Command Center. Feel free to RP whatever you want about your ambassadors... :? Sawwy, but this is probably what would happen in a near-war situation...)
Ferrussia
14-01-2004, 06:56
Green Living Room, Mariinsky Palace

President Yavlinsky strode into the room in which the two ambassadors had already been summoned, looking rather hasty and on edge.

"My apologies for the strange events as of late, and I trust that the palace staff has treated you well and shown you around. As you probably know, we were nearly invaded by the members of ICON, and again, I apologise for the lost time involved. Please forgive me."

"At any rate, we have completed the second draft of the alliance text, and I bring it for your approval - open to suggestions, changes, and outright ommisions or additions. The changes we make to this document will likely become the final draft, unless further changes are made down the road. So, here it is."

Yavlinsky passed out the text of the alliance, which resided on several sheets of pristine legal-size paper:


The Official Text of the Tri-State Alliance

We, the undersigned soverign states, have in the interest of mutual peace, protection, and advancement, set forth this document to serve as a binding agreement and alliance between the undersigned. We hereby agree to the following terms, and in doing so hope to make the undersigned states safer and more prosperous. It is our wish that the undersigned nations grow closer together, both diplomatically and economically; militarilly and personally.

SECTION I - VALIDITY OF ALLIANCE

ARTICLE I - Negation of terms
The terms of this document will be binding to the undersigned soverign states at any and all times, and can only be negated if the following circumstances apply, as decided by two of the three undersigned states, or any one nation officially files a written request of dissolution to both of the remaining two parties. The conditions under which the terms can be negated are:

- Extreme governmental change by any one undersigned party
- A deliberate act of aggression, especially military, by one undersigned party against another
- Continued failure of any one undersigned party to follow the terms herein
- Any extreme or particular circumstances under which any one party may come to great harm unless this treaty is dissolved

ARTICLE II - Definition of terms
The following terms are to be used as described here througout the entirety of this document.

- Undersigned, Party, State, Nation, etc.: Refers to one or all of the undersigned soverign states, particularly their government, and all afilliated property, persons, resources, well-being, and assets, in addition to all territory, assets, and peoples under the control and/or jurisdiction of said government.

- Opinion/decision (of undersigned state): Refers to the general opinion, stance, feeling, or direct decision or announcement made by the government of the indicated state, especially that made by or supported by the Head of State or other officials with such ability - such as representatives and/or ambassadors.

- Military action: Includes, but is not limited to, direct acts with agressive force, particularly with enlisted persons, associated vehicles, weapons, and ordinance, missiles, military naval and air assets, or other such direct force. When in reference to an attack on the undersigned, can also include condoned terrorist, militarist, or strategic action against the undersigned.

- Civilians: Any and all individuals within a state, as well as the associated infrastructure, buildings, and other assets used by said individuals.

- Agrression: A forceful act or procedure by governmental elements of a nation intended to harm or dominate another nation or it's assets.

- Governmental Change: A radical and negative change in the policies of a government, whether due to shift of power, degredation of governmental control, revolution, or - though not necessarily - a change in leadership of the government as a whole.

ARTICLE III - Amendment of terms
Should all three undersigned states feel that any part of this alliance should be amended, added to, deleted, or otherwise changed, and the manner in which this should be done is agreed upon by all three states, such amendment will take full effectivity and said terms will be applied immediately, unless otherwise stated in the amendment.

ARTICLE IV - Enforcement of terms
While it seems unlikely, in the event that any of these terms must be applied with force to one of the states, such can be done only with diplomatic means, such as talks, deliberations, or other such 'non-aggressive' means. Military action or action against civilians of said country are strictly prohibited under the terms of this alliance. Should the two remaining states feel a term should be enforced in the third state, such can be done cooperatively, so long as such action stays within the bounds of this alliance, and particularly this article.


SECTION II - MILITARY ALLIANCE

ARTICLE I - Mutual protection
The undersigned states will protect each other from military attacks by foreign entities on any one of the undersigned states with military, diplomatic, and economic aid. Military aid is to be in sufficient quantity to provide sufficient force, as determined by the remaining two states. Diplomatic aid (such as vocal support) is to be required, but military and economic aid are exempted to an undersigned state under the following circumstances:

No aid will be required if:
- The state being attacked expressly states to the remaining two states that it does not require help.

Economic aid will not be required if:
- Military aid is given (economic aid will then not be required.)
- An undersigned state is in an economic state such that economic aid would be extremely harmful and/or impossible, as determined by the remaining two states.

Military aid will not be required if:
- Military assistance would leave an undersigned nation extremely vulnerable, and/or unable to carry out necessary functions, as decided by the remaining two states.
- Military assistance would lead to an extreme consequence, such as invasion by a significant third-party source (again determined by the remaining two states).
- Unbearable nuclear threat is placed on any nation supporting the attacked nation.
- It is deemed by both remaining states that the attacked nation deliberately caused the course of events which led to the attack.

It should be noted that these are only instances in which military and/or economic aid is not REQUIRED, and any undersigned state may carry out military/economic aid under any of these circumstances if it is willing.

ARTICLE II - Support of offensive measures
All undersigned nations are exempt from aiding another undersigned state if the state in question is performing a military attack which is not on its own claimed territory.

ARTICLE III - Military crosstraining
Programs are to be put in place within all undersigned states in which a minimum of one (1) organized combat military force of division status or higher and/or 15,000 - 20,000 men, one (1) wing of combat aircraft, and one (1) naval force, squadron, or group - preferably a carrier battle group - of at least 10 significant warships is trained in the tactics and strategem of the remaining two states' forces. In addition, this program is to make provisions for the training of the same number of forces from the other two states.

Permanent military liasons are to be made to the other two undersigned nations, who will coordinate any military issues between the two nations. Provisions are to be made at top military command facilities for such liasons to stay from the other two undersigned nations.

ARTICLE IV - Military bases
The undersigned nations are to lease land to the other two undersigned nations for the construction of military bases belonging to the other undersigned nations. Each base is to have all construction fees paid by the nation using the base, and command of the base will rest with the nation using the base, not the nation in whose land the base exists. Airspace and land use outside of the base are to be negotiated between the two countries, with the country in whose land the base exists recieving the final say on any such matters. However, sufficent access must be given to the site that the units stationed there recieve adequate supplies for their survival and operation.

So long as the amount of land used for bases by each nation remains the same, no fees are to be charged for the land itself, and charges for utilities and the like are to be kept at the market average or lower. Full visas are to be provided to the residents of the base and their families (if requested). If one nation has more land in another nation then that nation does in return, the nation using less land may request that, for a sufficent price - as decided by the remaining state - the difference in land be charged for annually. However, this is optional, and for the sake of the stability of the alliance, it is suggested that no payments be required unless there is a quite significant difference.

Naval provisions are to be required, insomuch that any of the undersigned nations may bring their fleets into port in another undersigned nation - provided they pay for the goods they use and do not force naval assets of the nation to whom the ports belong to make unusual arrangements. If this is to be done, the military liasons (as mentioned in Article III) are to notify the nation that this will be done at least one (1) week or seven (7) days before such a docking takes place, and the duration of the stay is to be negotiated then.

Any emergency needs or provisions more generous than those in this article can be negotiated by the two countries involved at any time, and it is suggested that nations be more generous than this article requires.

ARTICLE V - Support of Operations
Any undersigned nation is encouraged to support any military engagements of another undersigned nation by allowing military assets of the other nation to refuel, rearm, etc. at the military facilites of the original nation. However, such use of their own military bases is not required.


SECTION III - DIPLOMATIC ALLIANCE

ARTICLE I - Diplomatic affiliation
While the undersigned nations will remain seperate, soveriegn states, they are to support each other diplomatically as often as possible and reasonable. This includes voicing diplomatic support for each other during conflict and crisis of any kind when reasonable, public support by the government for the other states as a whole, and the establishment of permanent diplomatic relations between the three nations.

Embassies from the other two nations are to be established in each state, preferably in the capital or another important diplomatic area. The embassies are to be granted the soverign right of their respective nation, and will be paid for, maintained, and protected by the respective nation. These embassies are to provide quick and reliable access to diplomatic means with their respective country, and shall be required to be constantly maintained by diplomatic personnel, except in time of war or great danger.

ARTICLE II - Diplomatic provisions
Each undersigned nation is to make all provisions avaliable to condone each of the undersigned nations. It is to be publicly known that the undersigned states are diplomatically allied. However, support of the governmental type and/or leader is not to be strictly required, but instead encouraged.

Each undersigned nation must be willing and able to make provisions for emergency diplomatic meetings regarding important internal and international events. The members of the alliance are encouraged to talk together through diplomatic meetings before making any major joint international decisions/actions, particularly those military in nature.


SECTION IV - ECONOMIC ALLIANCE

ARTICLE I - Free trade
The undersigned nations are to allow and enforce free trade (meaning that the trade and/or exchange of goods, services, and other economic products are not to experience tarriff of any kind, nor have any extra tax above that of any national laws concerning that product or market as a whole.) between the three undersigned nations in the hopes of creating a much more prosperous and self-supporting economy between the nations.

ARTICLE II - Economic coordination
The undersigned nations are to encourage the establishment of public trade forums and summits between the nations, and should do their best to exchange economic advisers as needed to ensure that the actions of one country will not adversely affect another. It is suggested by the text of this alliance that trade summits be organized annually between the three nations. This article is open to amendment to include a joint trade commission.

ARTICLE III - Economic freedom
The undersigned nations are to assist in the support of each other's economies as they deem fit, be it with direct monetary aid, increased purchases, economic advice, or pro-trade policies; however, they are to recognize the right of each nation to enact their own laws regarding economics and the flow of money, and shall not interfere with this right. Each nation will maintain a seperate economy and seperate strategies, and no overall plan is to be forcibly placed on all three nations against their will.
Clan Smoke Jaguar
14-01-2004, 07:30
Ambassador Kotare smiled. "Well, there is certainly little we can do about such things, Mr. President, and Clan Smoke Jaguar finds fault only in ICON. At the very list, the situation has allowed us to test our ability to handle multiple interregional conflicts, and we can use the information we've gathered in the future." With that, Kotare began reading the draft - much more carefully thist time. It would take him awhile to go through.
Omz222
15-01-2004, 07:02
The Omzian ambassador glanced at the papers, and is extremely satisfied, showed by his smile on his round face. "No problems here. I wouldn't expect this ICON to have any large effect anyways, since they seems to be only a group of people with big mouth and no action. With poor tactics and support, they should be outgunned at this invasion.

Anywho, the proposal seems a bit better, although I'm sure that there will still be a few errors and needs for additions."

With that, the Omzian ambassador began to read the draft, moe carefully this time.
Clan Smoke Jaguar
15-01-2004, 07:35
Ambassador Kotare finished his scrutiny shortly after the Omzian's statement. "Indeed, I can see little here that needs adjustment, though I'm aware that there will always be something down the road. But for now, this is good."
Ferrussia
17-01-2004, 08:17
President Yavlinsky excused himself from the room and had crackers and water taken in, instructing the staffer to ask the Ambassadors politely if they'd like anything else.

After tending to several matters of business, he fetched Secretary Kasyanov - currently mulling over several matters with Western Asia - and returned to the Green Living Room.

"My apologies for my absence," said Yavlinsky as he stepped into the room. "Do you feel you have sufficiently reviewed the text, or do you require more time?"
Clan Smoke Jaguar
22-01-2004, 08:09
"I feel we have sufficiently reviewed it, but we will of course wait for my counterpart's opinion on that matter."
Omz222
22-01-2004, 08:13
The Omzian Ambassador has carefully skimmed it over and over. It seems quite decent and well-writen for the particular puproses, and it is clear enough to have all 3 parties to understand. With a great satisfaction in mine, he announced after the Smoke Jaguar Ambassador. "Well, I also feel that I have fully reviewed it, and frankly, it seems perfect," he remarked.
Ferrussia
22-01-2004, 08:42
Green Living Room, Mariinsky Palace

Yavlinsky smiled - a broad grin that seemed to occupy the entire width of his face.

"I'm very excited to hear that. We'll be printing it as the final copy, and you may send copies to your respective governments for final approval. We would like to tenatively set the signing date for two days from now - I realize this is rather soon, but the importance of this alliance is unmatched by any other Ferrussian agreement to date, and we would like to see it through as quickly as possible. We will gladly recieve your respecive leaders or a representative with equal authority here in Kiev for the signing. They may take as long as they like with their respective speeches, and press delegates from your nations will be provided with visas if needed."

President Yavlinsky stood and shook the hands of both ambassadors.

"I am quite pleased with this. We're taking a tremendous step in history, and I hope you realize the essential part you've played in that. Thank you."

Yavlinsky quickly strode out of the room to, he explained, various other important meetings, and Secretary Kasyanov approached the two ambassadors.

"We would also like to allow construction to begin on your embassies here in Kiev as soon as possible," he said, handing them a map (http://atlas.walagata.com/w/ferret/kievwacrop.JPG). "You'll find the proposed embassy sites in the upper left hand corner, and the Mariinsky Palace in the lower right. I hope you find this proposal suitable."

He turned, but before he left, he turned around again.

"Thank you," he said. "I look forward to the fruits of this... this tremendous alliance. Have a good day, ambassadors."
Ferrussia
22-01-2004, 08:43
OOC: Feel free to jump to the approval (or lack thereof) of your governments, and to the arrival of your leaders in Kiev, but don't go farther than the airport - we'll be providing the motorcade.
Clan Smoke Jaguar
22-01-2004, 08:49
"I find the location of the embassy quite satisfactory, as I feel our staff will as well, and will send a copy of the final draft to the Khan as soon as possible. Knowing her, I suspect that the Khan will attend this herself."
Omz222
24-01-2004, 06:42
The Omzian Ambassador carefully studied the final draft for a last time, just to check for final errors. As much as he trusts his homeland's friends, he is also a tough critic on everything -- he always give criticism. But as this draft met the perfection level in his standards, a meaningful smile appeared on his aged face. Hearing about the embassy, another broad grin appeared on the ambassador's face, although fading into a smile. Shaking President Yavlinsky's hand with a broad smile and a good amount of pressure on his hand, be finally made his comment. "Very well, I do believe the location of the embassy to be quite satisfying. A request for a legislation to build the embassy will be passed towards the Parliament. Anyways, we will contact your government for a location for your emabssy in Osaria.", he said after adjusting his smile into a more "understanding" one.

Pausing for a few seconds, while looking around and glancing at his fellow counetrparts, he finally commented with a thoughtful face and voice. "I, representing the President of the Republic Vansare, would like to say, friends, it certainly has been a milestone in our history. Through the stepping stones between this point and the establishment of relationships between all parties, we've finally united into one union of brothers. Finally, us 3 nations have finally united into one body. I can still remember how our military forces fought along with the Ferrussians, and how recent relationship between Clan Smoke Jaguar and us has skyrocketed. We have just made history, fellow comrades. Have a good day."
Ferrussia
25-01-2004, 21:58
(OOC: I created a new thread so that the signing could go on without disrupting further talks with Sliponia and United Elias, if they're still around... anyways, the signing will be held here (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=118744))
31-01-2004, 18:43
(ooc: saw the "attn"...what's up?)
Ferrussia
01-02-2004, 21:42
OOC: We're starting negotiations with yourself and United Elias. Go ahead and RP arriving at the Mariinsky Palace again.
United Elias
02-02-2004, 01:04
The motorcade of flag flying, black cars, swings into the driveway of the Marinsky palace and comes to an abrupt halt. The Deputy Foreign Minister Yitzhak Goldstein then walks up the steps flanked by FSB agents for yet another ound of talks with the Ferrussian government.
Ferrussia
10-02-2004, 20:24
(OOC: Sorry for the delayed response - things got a bit hectic recently for me, and it slipped my mind.)

Mariinsky Palace, Kiev, Ferrussia

A number of photographers snapped pictures of the arriving United Elias Foreign Minister from the road, but few had been granted permission to enter the palace grounds. The two guards snapped a salute to the Foreign Minister as they held the door open, and inside, Secretary Kasyanov's aide extended a hand to Mr. Goldstein.

"Good evening, Minister, I would be greatly pleased to show you to Secretary Kasyanov."

With that, he led the small group up a flight of stairs and into a small meetingroom. Kasyanov stood waiting, and politely offered a handshake to the Minister.

"Minister Gooldstein, how good to see you again. I hope to get much accomplished this evening, so please, have a seat."
Adejaani
19-02-2004, 01:11
Memorandum from Office of Secretary of Foreign Relations

Adejaani Secretary of Foreign Relations, Mister Douglas Taylor sends regards to Ferrussia and will himself be departing shortly to begin formal talks on strengthening ties between our two countries. Please send instructions on where our aircraft should land. We look forward to seeing you.
Ferrussia
19-02-2004, 01:59
Official Transmission to Secretary of Foreign Relations, Adejaani

We would be most pleased to meet your presence in Kiev, Minister, and have made preparations to accept any number of planes and/or escorts at Uzyn Air Force Base, just outside of Kiev.

Given the current lack of an Adejaani Embassy in Kiev, we would be quite willing to provide ground transport from the Air Force Base to the Mariinsky Palace, should you require it. Secretary Kasyanov will attempt to conduct the meetings himself, but may be required elsewhere at the time. He sends his greetings and best wishes to the esteemed Minister, and hopes that he will indeed be avaliable.

Thank you for contacting us.


Office of the Secretary of Foreign Affairs
Adejaani
19-02-2004, 03:49
Douglas Taylor, Secretary of Foreign Relations felt Adejaani COUNSEL One land. The luxuriously converted Boeing 747 was of the same type that ferried the President around. Except in his case, the aircraft's callsign was "COUNSEL", which was what his Secret Service Designation was.

But for all the pomp and high profile with the beautiful aircraft, Taylor was virtually alone. Adejaani was basically stretching itself to do many things at once and couldn't afford to drop any of the balls it was juggling, so to speak. Apart from an aide to take notes and two Secret Service Agents, no one else was on the delegation. Usually, there would be additional personnel to represent Defense, Economics and the like, but things were tight.

"Now, where's our welcoming?" Taylor muttered as he descended the ramp of the aircraft.
Ferrussia
19-02-2004, 06:20
Uzyn Air Force Base, Kiev, Ferrussia

Cameras flashed as the foreign Secretary stepped off the impressive modified 747. The armored limousine - it had been getting quite a bit of use lately - was awaiting Minister Taylor, directly beside the large jet.

The driver stood next to the back door, and opened it for the approaching Secretary. Bowing slightly, he cheerfully offered a greeting.

"Welcome to Ferrussia, Minister!"

With that, the motorcade was on its way towards the diplomatic district of downtown Kiev...

*****

Mariinsky Palace, Kiev

During the entire trip to the Presidential Palace, photographers had been shooting pictures. Along the crowded street sides, a few even from the tops of buildings. Arriving at the Palace, they were met with more of the same.

The driver opened the door for Minister Taylor and his crew, and the two guards at the front door snapped to attention for the arriving dignitary. Someone was there to guide the Secretary to the room where the initial talks would be held.

"Secretary Kasyanov should be with you in just a moment," he said, and disappeared into the hallways. There was a very... busy atmosphere about the place, and had one thought about it, the war in Omz (combined with the whole issue of the Gothenburg-Franc troops) would have been the likely cause.

A few minutes passed, and another palace worker entered the room.

"Is there anything I can get you? I'm told there may be a slight delay, and I'm truly sorry."
Ilham
19-02-2004, 06:45
Ministers and People of the Ferrusian nation,I wish to open diplomatic relations with you,to form a military and economic pact.The military pact would be one of mutual defence.The economic pact would be a free trade agreement.

Please tell me how you fing this potential offer.
Crossroads Inc
19-02-2004, 06:46
OOC: After talking with Ferrussia via a T-graph, I have been informed that if I want to get in on the opening level of things around this Alliance, this is the place to go... As such...

IC: *Two nervious Employee stand outside the mighty Palace gates of Mariinsky,*

"You knock"
"no you knock!"

*Coin flips*

"Heads, you knock!"

*knocks*

"Greetings! As representives from the Fledgling nation of Crossroads Inc. Sent by the Lord High CEO himself, we come before the gates of Mariinsky to offer a gift of firendship to the Leader of the powerful nation of Ferrussua.

His Lord High CEOness wishes to open formal deplomatic communications between our two nations. As a token of his firendship, he has sent us to bestow on your leader a.. *checks with other Employee*

"Oh yea, a custom production modle CR-Grand Royal Yacht, 10 Sparkeling Bishounen from the Royal Harem, and a... a Truck load of Rootbeer.

"Really Good rootbeer!" *pipes up the other employee*

"Uh yea, Really good Rootbeer, So, where leaving a datapad outside the gates, just sign and your response will be automatically sent back to CCC."

*Employees look at each other and walk off*
"Think They bought it?"
"I hope so, The CEO really wanted to make a good impression with these people"
Adejaani
19-02-2004, 07:50
Taylor nodded at the worker, but declined. "Please, I understand he has a busy schedule. We are willing to wait." Taylor smiled thinly at the man and waited.
Ilham
19-02-2004, 10:32
Shivering in his quarters aboard the battleship "Tears of Morning",the new ambassador thought back to his military service days and his time as a reservist,until he had retired at the age of 50,before which he had served as Colonel of the 100th Malay Regiment.Zamil Mohammed was the new ambassador to Ferrusia and had been granted the use of the battleship to bring him to Ferrusia.

The battleship was sailing around the world,testing the newly developed nuclear-powered waterjets.Ilham was fast becoming a formidable military power with highly trained and motivated soldiers following the humanistic warrior religion of Ilku.As part of its resupply,it was stopping at the ports of Ferrusia,restocking supplies and letting its soldiers have shore leave.

Zamil Mohammed was now an envoy representing the Republic of Ilham in negotiations with Ferrusia.After leaving the country of Asian Pride,due to the cutting of ties,Ilham had embarked on a drive to ally itself with useful allies that would benefit it economically and militarily.It desired power on an international stage and even now was fighting a war in support of Crossman and the Atheists Reality.Zamil,as an envoy and ambassador,was here with his bodyguard and entourage to negotiate with th Ferrusians on a pact that would benefit both sides.The battleship would anchor in the harbour until negotiations had concluded,in order to resupply and for the military brass onboard,consisting of admirals,air marshals and generals to make a deal with the military of Ferrusia.

Slow and stately,with all guns pointing to the sky,the massive battleship thundered off volleys of blanks from its massive cannons as it entered the harbour of Ferrusia.Slamming through the waves with foam flying into the sky and leaving a massive wake that caused smaller boats to nearly capsize,the proud symbol of Ilham power and ambition entered the harbour,the national flags of Ilham and Ferrusia flying side by side.At the sides,Ferrusian Coast Guard vessels cleared a lane for the massive vessel as it decelerated,its engines churning the water of the large naval base.

With a large shock,it docked with the deep water pier,finally arriving at its destination after its week-long journey from Ilham.Soon,negotiations would begin.The future looked bright.
Ferrussia
21-02-2004, 07:52
Mariinsky Palace, Baroque Room (Adejaani talks)

Secretary Kasyanov stepped into the room and immediately approached Minister Taylor, offering a hand.

"I am very sorry for my lateness - a great deal of things are happening, and it's all a man can do these days to stay on top of them," he said with a slight grin. "Thank you so much for coming to Ferrussia."

With that, he sat down. "I am very interested in the potential between our nations, and I'm eager to get an overview of what you are interested in while I can. I may have to leave soon, and a senior diplomat will take over for me in the case that I have to leave. I know him to be very wise and knowledgeable, and I'm sure you'll enjoy his company.

"At any rate, let's get this started. It should be noted that these are pre-negotiatory talks - a much more important meeting to officially exchange ambassadors and open diplomatic channels will be conducted later, but we appreciate your sentiment of providing the chance to talk beforehand. I'm very interested in what you are looking for in relations with Ferrussia."

*****

Mariinsky Palace, Front Gates

(OOC: It should be noted before we get too much further that I generally do not roleplay with nations who are too far into the future - as noted on the first page of this thread, ~2020 is about my limit when it comes to how futuretech a nation can be for me to RP with them. It has nothing to do with people who roleplay future tech, and everything to do with maintaining consistency. I have no intention of trying to fight with or conduct significant RPs with future tech nations due to the complications involved, and hence my negotiations are also limited by this factor. If your nation is indeed future tech, I'll see what we can do, but if I'm mistaken and you're modern/very near future tech, I'd be glad to continue the RP without further hesitation.)

A messenger was sent out to retrieve the datapad, and it was examined by several aides, and the tape recording of the rather odd representatives was reviewed several times before a response was prepared. For the moment, nobody bothered to ask how two foreigners had gained entry to Ferrussia, let alone Kiev, without first obtaining visas or diplomatic approval.

To the Lord High CEO of Crossroads Inc:

We are interested in your proposal to open negotiations, and humbly accept your material offerings. We must politely turn down the Bishounen, however, for various internal reasons.

Please contact us through conventional diplomatic means if further negotiations are a possibility, and inform us as to your intentions.

It has been an honor to correspond with you.


Ferrussian Diplomatic Corps

*****

(OOC: Same as above applies here, although the same conflict doesn't appear to be present.)

Mykolayiv Naval Yards, Mykolayiv, Ferrussia

The foreign battleship was closely watched by the Coast Guard and Port Authority boats as they escorted it into the harbor - it was not considered to be a threat, but one can never be too sure.

Upon arriving in dock, the Ambassador was provided ground transportation to Kiev. The trip would take several hours, but abundant considerations for comfort and peace were provided the ambassador during the long ride.

Within a few hours, the procession arrived in Kiev, and the Ambassador was directed to the Mariinsky Palace for an official opening of diplomatic relations. The schedule was booked solid for several hours, so the foreign dignitary was led to a personal bedroom where he could rest, study, or do any number of things.

An assistant knocked on the door shortly after, and asked if there was anything that she could do for him at the moment.
Ilham
21-02-2004, 11:23
Zamil Mohammed was tempted,very tempted in fact to take advantage of the young woman that knocked at his door asking whether he needed anything.But looking at the wedding ring on his finger,he remembered his promise to his wives.He made a decision,deciding that 3 wives were more than enough for him and that he would need all his energy when he returned.And Ilham was gearing up for a war against the gods.The "Tears of Morning had hurriedly left the naval yard,rushing back to Ilham in preparation for yet another deployment.So now,Zamil was stuck with a private jet provided by Ilham GIC(Government Investment Corporation) that had bought over several small airfields within Ferrusia.Still,it would do.He rather preferred the armoured hull of a battleship than a flimsy civilian craft.Still,it had been retrofitted with anti-missile defences and electronic signal generatoes as well as the new hybrid turbofan-ramjet engines.

So nw he would have to handle the diplomatic and military aspects of the negotiations.Checking through his list,he examined all the intelligence gathered by previous envoys about Ferrusia.Quite admirable the way they did things here,he had to admit.And their military was superb,at least by Ilham standards,though Ilham was a very militaristic nation that valued the armed forces.

Asking for files and for an appointment with the Permanent Secretary of Foreign Affairs,he sent the attractive assisstant on her way.Inside,his 3 bodyguards,massive men of Dravidian stock who stood at 2 metres each or taller relaxed,playing billiards.They were deadly,coming from the Commandoes,having black belts in most East Asian and Austronesian as well as French and Russian martial arts,not to forget expert-level Krav Maga training by the Israeli's.They were all crack shots as well with rifles or pistols.Typical of Ilham to value warriors such as them.

Now all he had to do was wait.Hopefully,very soon he could conclude these negotiations and be on his way.
Adejaani
21-02-2004, 13:07
Douglas Taylor shook Kasyanov's hand, offering the usual spiel of polite words and on-behalf-of greetings. That said, he listened to Kasyanov's speech and thought a minute before replying.

"I am as yet unsure of the precise nature of any permanent agreement between our two countries of any description. Adejaani has never been a big nation, nor are we widely known. We have never had any ill will harbored towards us, so any form of military agreement would be technically moot, though we will back it up if one is signed." Taylor began his opening reply. It was technically true. Although the Sha'Ra wanted to wipe Adejaani out, along with the rest of the Coalition in that ongoing war, they had never launched an attack against Adejaani proper.

"In terms of trade and manufacture, this would probably form the basis of any agreement between our two nations. While some lobbyists at home may object, it has been Adejaani policy for many years to give and take some. For example, you are in need of Tomcat II fighter-interceptors. If you say..... Manufacture certain elements of the aircraft like the wings or some electronics, then perhaps a certain percentage of manufactured aircraft will go to you or something similar." Taylor took a sip of water.

"Similarly, in exchange for say, each metric tonne of raw minerals and materials, you may get discounts in the Adejaani market or equivalent raw goods. You could also gain discounts via the sale of whole goods items like automobiles, aircraft etc. You can also 'barter' with stored credit for cheaper goods such as ships and aircraft, which is Adejaani's most profitable export.

"In essence, if we trade and do business, you'll inevitably find technology and goods trickling back in addition to the immediate benefits caused by trade and business.

"There will, of course, be the usual Diplomatic Alliance, exchange of embassies and the like. For a Military Alliance..... That would depend on what is on the table, sir."
Ferrussia
24-02-2004, 06:13
OOC: My sincerest apologies about not posting yet... it's going to be hard for me for the next week - three major school projects, a quiz every day in math followed by a test at the end of the week, 45 senior ads to make for the yearbook in the next 5 days, a book to read for english, an editorial to write for newspaper... The list goes on and on.

So sorry, but don't expect a detailed reply to be done any time in the next week. A week from tomorrow is a more likely time.

Again, sorry. :? *hates school*
Ferrussia
29-03-2004, 08:19
OOC: Sorry about the delay. Long story short, lots of crap happened and I was gone for spring break. I'm back now, though.

IC:

Mariinsky Palace, Baroque Room (Adejaani Talks)

Secretary Kasynov nodded at Taylor's remarks. "A trade agreement would certainly be within both our interests, I'm sure. Components construction is actually a niche that Ferrussia is stepping more and more into, and such an agreement would certainly be beneficial in our pursuit of such markets.

"Military alliance is something that we put great importance in. I understand that it may not always be within your capability to run off and fight a foreign war, so if you do not feel such an endeavor would be feasible, I'd understand completely. If no other pressing engagements exist, however, we would always be willing to step in and help your nation in a time of need. You need only let us know.

"Other aspects of military cooperation, however, could be sought. We're looking to maintain an ability to mobilize forces in a minimal amount of time, as such can be cruical to defense or putting the lid on a potentially catastrophic situation. At the very least, we would appreciate docking and refueling privelidges in Adejaani ports - at your discretion, of course. Construction of a military base would be another possibility. The same would be afforded to Adejaani, of course, with both the port rights and base, if agreed to. It's really up to how far your nation is willing to go.

"I'm sorry, I'm rushing into things. Trade agreements such as you have outlined are indeed something we'd look forward to. If you feel you can trust us, military options exist as well. Have you any current enemies or threats that we should know about?"
Kay Son
29-03-2004, 08:41
I'm interested although my country isn't up to par of your tech level. all it has is a large military: www.freewebs.com/timmywl