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Gregor Shipyards (Imperious & new pics added)

Vernii
18-11-2003, 23:38
Welcome to Gregor Shipyards storefront. The government has finally approved the limited sale of military and civilian ships to foreign governments.

http://honorverse.pdabooks.org/images/Art_..._Comparison.jpg (http://honorverse.pdabooks.org/images/Art_Hull_Comparison.jpg)
See this for an average size comparison of various warships. Dreadnoughts and Superdreadnoughts aren't for sale.

Also, check out our other storefront.
http://img24.photobucket.com/albums/v73/Jadeite/fort2.jpg (http://s6.invisionfree.com/International_Mall/index.php?showtopic=57)

Battleships: Primarily meant for garrison duties in contested systems, battleships can pull a high enough speed to run down most smaller vessels. They also carry a high enough weapons payload to be able to form part of fleet actions. Battleships are often used by the People's Navy for VIP transport.

http://img24.photobucket.com/albums/v73/Jadeite/battleship.jpg

Triumphant Class
Mass (Tons): 18,00,000
Length Overall (Meters): 2,500
Maximum Beam (Meters): 300
Maximum Height (Meters): 275
Maximum Acceleration (G): 450 in Normal-Space / 4,325 in Hyper-Space
Complement: 3,000 (275 Officers + 2,725 Warrant/Enlisted and 500 marines) Plus Flag/Flag Staff.

Armament Mounted / Weapon Mount Placement
Missile Tubes: 31 per broadside, 6 per chase.
Laser (300 cm): 10 per broadside, 0 per chase.
Laser (350 cm): 0 per broadside, 2 per chase.
Graser (350 cm): 15 per broadside, 0 per chase.
Graser (400 cm): 0 per broadside, 2 per chase.
CM Launchers: 20 per broadside, 10 per chase.
PD Laser Clusters: 30 per broadside, 10 per chase.
Parasite Complement: Capacity for 15 shuttle sized vessels.
~The most powerful warship available for export, Triumphants play a vital role in the People's Navy. They are equipped with thick armor and powerful shielding, and their point defence clusters and counter-missiles (CMs) are quite effective. The lead ship of this class, Triumphant, served as Admiral Ganote's flagship at Second Yalta (see "Wall of Stars"). We also sell a command ship variant, that for an extra $15 million, mounts secondary shield generators and an upgraded communications suite.
Price: $40 billion.

Triumphant-A Modification
Price: $40 billion
~This modification removes all but four of the side mounted 350cm grasers. They have been replaced with missile tubes, increasing the ship's broadside total to 52. This new subclass would be best placed in the rear of a fleet where it can attack enemy ships from long range while being protected from an energy engagement.

Ferdinand Class
Mass (Tons): 16,800,000
Length Overall (Meters): 2,200
Maximum Beam (Meters): 275
Maximum Height (Meters): 275
Maximum Acceleration (G): 475 in Normal-Space / 4,400 in Hyper-Space
Complement: 2,900 (275 Officers + 2,725 Warrant/Enlisted and 400 marines) Plus Flag/Flag Staff.

Armament Mounted / Weapon Mount Placement
Missile Tubes: 28 per broadside, 6 per chase.
Laser (300 cm): 10 per broadside, 0 per chase.
Laser (350 cm): 0 per broadside, 2 per chase.
Graser (350 cm): 15 per broadside, 0 per chase.
Graser (400 cm): 0 per broadside, 2 per chase.
CM Launchers: 20 per broadside, 10 per chase.
PD Laser Clusters: 26 per broadside, 10 per chase.
Parasite Complement: Capacity for 20 shuttle sized vessels.
~While no new vessels of this class are being built for the People's Navy, Ferdinands still make up part of the fleet, and are still avaible for export to other countries. These ships are ideal for younger navies that are in need of capital warships. The lead ship of this class served as the squadron flagship of Rear Admiral Kieper at Second Yalta (see "Wall of Stars").
Price: $35 billion.

Battlecruisers: Ideal for hit and run actions or attacks on orbital defences, battlecruisers carry an ideal mix of firepower and speed, along with the ability to take much damage.

http://img24.photobucket.com/albums/v73/Jadeite/BC.bmp

Imperious Class
Mass (Tons): 3,600,000
Length Overall (Meters): 1,750
Maximum Beam (Meters): 205
Maximum Height (Meters): 180
Maximum Acceleration (G): 490 in Normal-Space 4,700 in Hyper-Space
Complement: 2,200 (190 Officers + 2,010 Warrant/Enlisted + 300 Marines) Plus Flag/Flag Staff

Armament Mounted / Weapon Mount Placement
Missile Launcher: 27 per broadside, 5 per chase.
Laser 100cm: 6 per broadside, 0 per chase.
Laser 150cm: 0 per broadside, 2 per chase.
Graser 150cm: 6 per broadside, 0 per chase.
Graser 175cm: 0 per broadside, 2 per chase.
CM Launcher: 10 per broadside, 4 per chase.
PD Laser Cluster: 27 per broadside, 6 per chase.
Parasite Complement: Capacity for 10 shuttle sized vessels.
Price: $32 billion
~The newest design in service with the People's Navy, the Imperious class mounts seven more missile tubes per side than the older Sultan, and also mounts a heavier energy armament. They have state of the art command facilities for squadron and task force flag staff, and make a fine addition to any respectable navy.

Sultan Class
Mass (Tons): 3,432,000
Length Overall (Meters): 1,600
Maximum Beam (Meters): 205
Maximum Height (Meters): 180
Maximum Acceleration (G): 489 in Normal-Space 4,728.5 in Hyper-Space
Complement: 1,995 (180 Officers + 1,815 Warrant/Enlisted + 300 Marines) Plus Flag/Flag Staff

Armament Mounted / Weapon Mount Placement
Missile Launcher: 20 per broadside, 5 per chase.
Laser 90cm: 5 per broadside, 0 per chase.
Laser 150cm: 0 per broadside, 2 per chase.
Graser 150cm: 6 per broadside, 0 per chase.
CM Launcher: 10 per broadside, 4 per chase.
PD Laser Cluster: 27 per broadside, 6 per chase.
Parasite Complement: Capacity for 10 shuttle sized vessels.
~The main battlecruiser class of the People's Navy, these vessels are equipped with a powerful shielding system and energy amarment. Notable actions Sultan's have performed in are the First Battle of Yalta, in which they destroyed the Yaltan navy and fortifications on its moon, and then served as part of Admiral Ganote's missile screen at Second Yalta. (See "Wall of Stars")
Price: $28 billion.

Lion Class
Mass (Tons): 2,700,000
Length Overall (Meters): 1,500
Maximum Beam (Meters): 200
Maximum Height (Meters): 170
Maximum Acceleration (G): 495 in Normal-Space 4,776.5 in Hyper-Space
Complement: 1,800 (155 Officers + 1,645 Warrant/Enlisted + 300 Marines)

Armament Mounted / Weapon Mount Placement
Missile Launcher: 20 per broadside, 4 per chase.
Laser 90cm: 5 per broadside, 0 per chase.
Laser (150cm): 0 per broadside, 2 per chase.
Graser (150cm): 5 per broadside, 0 per chase.
CM Launcher: 5 per broadside, 4 per chase.
PD Laser Cluster: 24 per broadside, 6 per chase.
Parasite Complement: Capacity for 10 shuttle sized vessels.
~An aging but still powerful design, these ships are being phased out of our navy in favor of the newer Sultan class.
Price: $25 billion.

Destroyers, Light and Heavy Cruisers: These ships are ideal for convoy escort, light attacks, garrison roles, and commerce raiding.

http://img24.photobucket.com/albums/v73/Jadeite/cruiser.bmp

Mars Class Heavy Cruiser
Mass (Tons): 1,200,000
Length Overall (Meters): 1,200
Maximum Beam (Meters): 200
Maximum Height (Meters): 175
Maximum Acceleration (G): 510 in Normal-Space 4,921 in Hyper-Space
Complement: 900 (80 Officers + 820 Warrant/Enlisted + 150 Marines) Plus optional Flag/Flag Staff (50)

Armament Mounted / Weapon Mount Placement
Missile Launcher: 12 per broadside, 3 per chase.
Laser (90cm): 4 per broadside, 0 per chase.
Laser (150cm): 0 per broadside, 2 per chase.
CM Launcher: 6 per broadside, 3 per chase.
PD Laser Cluster: 17 per broadside, 4 per chase.
Parasite Complement: Capacity for 8 shuttle sized vessels.
~ Our newest class of heavy cruiser, the Mars is equipped with our most modern technology available. These ships make perfect light squadron command ships, and are equipped with a flag bridge for that purpose. A squadron of these ships made up the forces of the People's Navy at the First Battle of Acler, taking light damage in return for wiping out Acler's entire navy. Another squadron also demonstrated its usefulness for scouting missions, in the aftermath of the Second Battle of Madras. (see the thread "Wall of Stars".
Price: $18 billion.

Courageous Class Light Cruiser
Mass (Tons): 252,000
Length Overall (Meters): 750
Maximum Beam (Meters): 175
Maximum Height (Meters): 100
Maximum Acceleration (G): 617 in Normal-Space 5,958 in Hyper-Space
Complement: 525 (41 Officers + 484 Warrant/Enlisted + 150 Marines)

Armament Mounted / Weapon Mount Placement
Missile Launcher: 7 per broadside, 2 per chase.
Laser (90cm): 2 per broadside, 0 per chase.
Laser (150cm): 0 per broadside, 1 per chase.
Graser (50cm) 2 per broadside, 0 per chase.
CM Launcher: 4 per broadside, 2 per chase.
PD Laser Cluster: 10 per broadside, 4 per chase.
Parasite Complement: Six shuttle sized craft.
~ An aging design, the Courageous CL is capable of it's design goals. These ships were designed for convoy protection, escorting larger warships, search and destroy, and commerce raiding. Their high acceleration means that they can run down most enemy vessels, and what they can't destroy they can probably run from.
Price: $12 billion.

Turbulent Class Destroyer
Mass (Tons): 165,000
Length Overall (Meters): 650
Maximum Beam (Meters): 150
Maximum Height (Meters): 100
Maximum Acceleration (G): 622 in Normal-Space 5,999.6 in Hyper-Space
Complement: 325 (26 Officers + 299 Warrant/Enlisted + 35 Marines)

Armament Mounted / Weapon Mount Placement
Missile Launcher: 4 per broadside, 2 per chase.
Laser (25cm): 3 per broadside, 0 per chase.
Laser (50cm): 0 per broadside, 1 per chase.
PD Laser Cluster: 4 per broadside, 2 per chase.
Parasite Complement: Four shuttle sized craft.
~These small warships are best employed in your navy as escorts for larger ships and as convoy protection. Destroyers are also useful for picketing enemy systems, using their long range sensors to gather information on enemy forces.
Price: $8 billion.

Misc Craft

Light Attack Craft (LAC)
http://img24.photobucket.com/albums/v73/Jadeite/_LysianSentryPod.jpg
Mass (Tons): 10,000
Length Overall (Meters): 82
Maximum Beam (Meters): 30 (70 with strap-on box launchers attached)
Maximum Height (Meters): 15
Maximum Acceleration: (G) 400 in Normal-Space.
Complement: 25 (2 Officers + 23 Warrant/Enlisted)

Armament Mounted / Weapon Mount Placement
Missile Launcher: 15 strap on launchers*
Laser (50cm): 1 per chase.
PD Laser Cluster: 4 per broadside, 2 per chase.
Parasite Complement: One escape shuttle.
~Don't mistake these ships for fighters, at 82 meters in length and with a crew of 25, these vessels are almost full warships. While not FTL capable, these ships are perfect for customs and patrolling the space around your planets.
Cost: $800 million
*carries no internal magazines, each launcher can fire once before resupply is needed.

Star Falcon courier/yacht
Mass (Tons): 125,000
Length Overall: 400
Maximum Beam: 100
Maximum Height: 75
Maximum Acceleration: (G) 528 in Normal-Space; 5,087.5 in Hyper-Space
Complement: 100 (5 Officers + 45 Civ Crew + 50 Passengers)
Parasite Complement: 3 shuttles
~ Standard passenger accommodations include two deluxe single suites, eight single staterooms, and twenty double staterooms. The yacht also comes with a kitchen, dining room, lounge, and observation deck, and is capable of landing on a planet. Can be customized at the customers wish.
Cost: $750 million

Atlas class passenger liner

http://img24.photobucket.com/albums/v73/Jadeite/atlas.jpg

Mass (Tons): 4,000,000
Length Overall: 1,750
Maximum Beam:225
Maximum Height: 210
Maximum Acceleration (G): 485 in Normal-Space 4,680.5 in Hyper-Space
Complement: 1,000 (75 Officers + 925 Civ Crew)
Passengers: 5,000 (500 1st Class + 1,500 2nd Class + 3,000 3rd Class)

Armament Mounted / Weapon Mount Placement
Missile Launcher: 7 per broadside, 2 per chase.
Laser (30cm): 6 per broadside, 0 per chase.
Laser (60cm): 0 per broadside, 1 per chase.
CM Launcher: 4 per broadside, 2 per chase.
PD laser cluster: 10 per broadside, 4 per chase.
Parasite Complement: Eight shuttles
~These ships are able to carry thousands of passengers in luxurious comfort. They are equipped with heavy cruiser scale shielding, and it's armament is capable of fending off all but the most dedicated pirate attack.

Price: $15 billion.

Laser-head missiles

http://img24.photobucket.com/albums/v73/Jadeite/missile.bmp

Range: 1,500,000 km
Attack range: 20,000 km
~ Once these missiles reach their attack range, they detonate and spray dozens of energy beams toward enemy targets. Effective against light or unshielded targets, useful for harassing larger ships.
Cost: $2 million for ten missiles.

Q-Ship
Mass(Tons): 24,100,000
Length Overall: 3,500
Maximum Beam: 550
Maximum Height: 525
Complement: 1,500 (140 Officers + 1,360 Enlisted)

Armament Mounted / Weapon Mount Placement
Missile Launcher: 20 per broadside, 3 per chase.
Laser (90cm): 5 per broadside, 0 per chase.
Laser (150cm): 0 per broadside, 1 per chase.
CM Launcher: 10 per broadside, 3 per chase.
PD laser cluster: 20 per broadside, 5 per chase.
Parasite Complement: 6 shuttles
~Perfect for protecting important convoys, these ships are equipped with military grade propulsion and shielding systems, and mount battlecruiser scale retractable weapons hidden underneath their hull plating. These ships are also useful for surprise attacks, imagine the look on the face of your enemy as the "harmless freighter" arriving with a shipment of cargo, begins launching missile salvoes!

Price: $25 billion

Alamo class Assault Transport
Mass (Tons): 16,950,000
Length Overall (Meters): 2,750
Maximum Beam (Meters): 350
Maximum Height (Meters): 325
Maximum Acceleration: (G) 205
Complement: 26500 (135 Officers + 1,365 Warrant/Enlisted + 25,000 Troops)

Armament Mounted / Weapon Mount Placement
Missile Launcher: 8 per broadside, 4 per chase.
Laser (50cm): 1 per chase.
PD Laser Cluster: 25 per broadside, 6 per chase.
Parasite Complement: 30 shuttles or dropships.
~Able to defend themselves against light attacks, these mammoth ships can carry almost two full divisions inside of them.
Price: $25 billion.

Nova courier/yacht
Mass (Tons): 100,000
Length Overall: 350
Maximum Beam: 100
Maximum Height: 75
Maximum Acceleration: (G) 575 in Normal-Space; 5,100 in Hyper-Space
Complement: 70 (5 Officers + 35 Civ Crew + 30Passengers)
Parasite Complement: 2 shuttles
~ Smaller and faster then the Star Falcon, the new Nova comes with military grade shielding, and can reach a maximum safe velocity (in normal space) of 60% of light speed. Standard passenger accommodations include two deluxe single suites, eight single staterooms, and ten double staterooms. The yacht also comes with a kitchen, dining room, lounge, and observation deck, and is capable of landing on a planet. Can be customized at the customers wish.
Cost: $800 million

Some pictures of the interior of the new Nova:
Heres one of the deluxe suites.
http://img24.photobucket.com/albums/v73/Jadeite/suite.jpg

And heres the bridge.
http://img24.photobucket.com/albums/v73/Jadeite/bridge.jpg

http://img24.photobucket.com/albums/v73/Jadeite/fort.jpg
Defender Class Orbital Fortress
Mass (Tons): 48,000,000
Length Overall (Meters): 4,750
Maximum Height (Meters): 3,570
Maximum Acceleration (G): 75
Complement: 6,250 (550 Officers + 5700 Enlisted) Plus 500 marines and optional Flag/Flag Staff (100).
LAC Complement Crew: 1,250 (125 + 1,125)
LAC Support/Staff: 500 (40 + 460)

Armament Mounted / Weapon Mount Placement
Missile Tubes: 20 per section (120 total).
Laser (500 cm): 20 per section (120 total).
Graser (750 cm): 25 per section (150 total).
CM Launchers: 30 per section (180 total).
PD Laser Clusters: 40 per section (240 total).
Parasite Complement: Capacity for 144 LACs + 40 shuttles or pinnaces.
Price: $120 billion
~A gigantic sphere of metal, this fortress outmasses a Triumphant by three times, and carries the firepower of six. Each energy mount is twice the size of its equivalent aboard a battleship. The weapons are distributed evenly along the hull, divided into six sections. If fully stocked with LACs, they could fire off a simultaneous salvo of 4,320 missiles. While not hyper capable, the Defender can move about, albeit ponderously, to position itself for optimum defence of whatever its guarding. This fortress is an extremely valuable asset for any nation.

http://img24.photobucket.com/albums/v73/Jadeite/comp_Incomplete-RCtanker.jpg
Argonaut Class Freighter
Mass (Tons): 6,000,000
Length (Meters): 3,000
Maximum Beam: 350
Maximum Height: 325
Maximum Acceleration (G): 200 in Normal Space; 2,300 in Hyper
Complement: 475 (30 officers + 445 crew)
Parasite Complement: Six cargo shuttles
Price: $10 billion
~The size of a dreadnought, the Argonaut is essentialy a gigantic mobile warehouse, capable of transporting up to four million tons of cargo between star systems. It's cargo doors are large enough that a destroyer could pass through them. The Argonaut should be placed in escorted convoys, as it carries no weapons, but does mount shields. It is capable of carrying a dozen LACs if it's owners wish. This freighter would make a valuable addition to any merchant fleet.


[code:1:4e49034677]PACKAGE FLEET
1 Triumphant battleship
2 Sultan battlecruisers
2 Mars heavy cruisers
4 Courageous light cruisers
6 Turbulent destroyers
Total Price: $200 billion (normal price for these ships would be $280 billion.[/code:1:4e49034677]

[code:1:4e49034677]SYSTEM DEFENCE FLEET
1 Defender orbital fortress
6 Triumphant battleship
6 Mars heavy cruisers
12 Turbulent destroyers
Total Price: $508 billion (normal price for these ships would be $564 billion.[/code:1:4e49034677]

[code:1:4e49034677]PLANETARY ASSAULT FLEET
12 Triumphant battleships
6 Sultan battlecruisers
4 Alamo assault transports
Total Price: $673 billion (normal price would be $748 billion).[/code:1:4e49034677]

[code:1:4e49034677]CONVOY PACKAGE FLEET
5 Argonaut freighters
2 Turbulent destroyers
1 Courageous light cruiser
Total Price: $70.2 billion (normal price would be $78 billion).[/code:1:4e49034677]

OOC: Some basic info about honorverse based tech:
Propulsion
Ships do not use normal thrusters or chemical reaction engines. They have nodes, called impellers, arranged in rings near the fore and aft of the ship. They generate a gravitic field that propels the ship. Because of the mode of propulsion, each ship has a cigar shape, although military vessels have a heavily armored hammerhead that contains more weapons and such at each end of the vessel.

Point-defence
Counter-missiles generate a 100 square km grav field around them, that disable or destroy any missile that impacts on it. PD clusters work more conventionally, they fire low powered lasers at incoming missiles.

Energy Weapons
Notice the measurements behind lasers and grasers in the specifications above, that means how wide the beam is. For example, the Triumphant mounts ten 300 centimeter lasers, that would be a three meter wide beam of energy being shot at it's target.

For more pics of honoverse ships, visit: http://honorverse.pdabooks.org/images/index.htm
19-11-2003, 00:46
id like 10 Turbulent Class Destroyer and 2 star falcons.
19-11-2003, 00:49
and 2 Scimitar Class Heavy Cruisers
19-11-2003, 00:52
and a Triumphant Class Battleship
Vernii
19-11-2003, 01:23
That would come to $152,800,000,000. I don't think you can afford all that. According to the GDP your national budget is :$34,804,350,000.

You could buy one Scimitar and two Turbulents with that.
imported_Erewohn
19-11-2003, 02:37
Erewohn would like to request the construction of 4 triumphants and 8 sultants.
Vernii
19-11-2003, 02:45
Alright, I know your economy can support that, so construction will begin immediately. Expect delivery in 3 RL days. Total cost is $364 billion.
imported_Erewohn
19-11-2003, 03:40
*money wired*
Vernii
19-11-2003, 04:33
Added the new Atlas-class liner under the Misc category. It's Gregor Shipyard's newest high speed luxury liner, capable of transporting up to 5000 passengers between systems.
19-11-2003, 04:34
OOC: I just thought I would let you know, but the Scharnhorst-class was already taken by a real life nation...
Vernii
19-11-2003, 04:39
Can you send me a link? And I don't think it really matters, it's just the name of an actual ship. If I get more complaints, then I might change it, but until then the name stays.
19-11-2003, 04:41
Traditionally, a ship class is the name of the first ship of the class. The first ship of the Scharnhorst-class was the Scharnhorst, a WW2 Battleship of Germany. For more information, go here: http://www.scharnhorst-class.dk/

Basically, by saying it is of the Scharnhorst-class, you are implying the first ship was named the Scharnhorst, and, in my right mind, all of your battleships of that class are WW2 era battleships, the first of which was sunk...
Vernii
19-11-2003, 04:48
Basically, by saying it is of the Scharnhorst-class, you are implying the first ship was named the Scharnhorst, and, in my right mind, all of your battleships of that class are WW2 era battleships, the first of which was sunk...

Yes, but this isn't WWII. I simply named one of my battleship classes after the armoured cruiser from WWI.
19-11-2003, 04:54
OOC: it was a battleship from WW2, not a cruiser from WW1. And it is still the same class, and that is not right.
imported_Erewohn
19-11-2003, 05:16
OOC: and why does it matter if he names his class after an existing class? A class that hasn't existed for houndreds of years in future tech.
19-11-2003, 13:33
OOC: It still existed, regardless.
19-11-2003, 13:50
Ah, ships from the Honor Harrington series. Good Books. Just because, I'll buy 5 Courageous Class.(Honor's ship in Basilisk Station)

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KILL KILL KILL
19-11-2003, 13:51
OOC: It still existed, regardless.

So what? Give it a rest, man. it doesn't matter.
19-11-2003, 13:53
Also, in the books, the Astra is a freighter. That's What Honor fights against at the end of the book.(highly modded Astra, that is.)
If you're not gonna be original, at least be true to where the stuff comes from.
19-11-2003, 13:54
OOC: It matters to me. I have studied German military history, and using the name Scharnhorst insults me.
19-11-2003, 14:31
OOC: It still existed, regardless.

Umm...We (real world USA) are using the name Enterprise for one of the aircraft carriers...

Does that matter? since the 'first' Enterprise was a hot air balloon ^_^
Vernii
20-11-2003, 02:03
OOC: it was a battleship from WW2, not a cruiser from WW1. And it is still the same class, and that is not right.

http://www.deutsche-schutzgebiete.de/webpages/S.M.S.%20Scharnhorst%20color1+.jpg

Notice the date, name of the ship, and the Imperial Naval Ensign. Concession accepted.
Vernii
20-11-2003, 02:05
Also, in the books, the Astra is a freighter. That's What Honor fights against at the end of the book.(highly modded Astra, that is.)
If you're not gonna be original, at least be true to where the stuff comes from.


Whoops, its the Atlas. I'll fix that immediately. And the reason why I'm using a lot of names from the HH is because people who've read the books know what I'm talking about this way.
Vernii
20-11-2003, 02:11
Ah, ships from the Honor Harrington series. Good Books. Just because, I'll buy 5 Courageous Class.(Honor's ship in Basilisk Station)

All right, that comes to $60 billion. Ships will be completed in 1 RL days (thursday). Would you like them sent to you or pick them up at Gregor?
20-11-2003, 03:04
Ah, ships from the Honor Harrington series. Good Books. Just because, I'll buy 5 Courageous Class.(Honor's ship in Basilisk Station)

All right, that comes to $60 billion. Ships will be completed in 1 RL days (thursday). Would you like them sent to you or pick them up at Gregor?

I can pick them up, and at least you didn't butcher them like in the book, although a grav lance would be cool. And, since most other ships in this NS place dont have shields, or impellers, it would do a hella lot of damage to a hull.

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I see that my vast mountain of sci-fi knowledge(not) has stumped you. Actually my only areas of expertise are Babylon 5 and the HH series.
20-11-2003, 03:05
Oh, and *money wired*
Vernii
20-11-2003, 03:19
I can pick them up, and at least you didn't butcher them like in the book, although a grav lance would be cool. And, since most other ships in this NS place dont have shields, or impellers, it would do a hella lot of damage to a hull.

The grav lance only took care of shields, it was the energy torps that did physical damage. Although, for $500 million my techs could mount one on each side of a ship. Your entire squadron could be refitted with energy torps for $2.5 billion. Considering the close range of most combat in NS, they'd be an asset.
20-11-2003, 03:27
I can pick them up, and at least you didn't butcher them like in the book, although a grav lance would be cool. And, since most other ships in this NS place dont have shields, or impellers, it would do a hella lot of damage to a hull.

The grav lance only took care of shields, it was the energy torps that did physical damage. Although, for $500 million my techs could mount one on each side of a ship. Your entire squadron could be refitted with energy torps for $2.5 billion. Considering the close range of most combat in NS, they'd be an asset.

No thanks, it was just a small idea. Besides, i've got some... um... shall we say modifications of my own to make.

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20-11-2003, 03:43
Vernii- I do not beleive I conceded. Please do not state things for me, if you continue to do so, you will have actually insulted me and I will take measures accordingly.

The originan SMS Scharnhorst was indeed an Imperial German ship. It was also the first of it's class, as I beleive, therefore it was part of the Scharnhorst-class series of battleships/dreadnaughts. However, in the 1930s, Nazi Germany built a new battleship, also called the Scharnhorst, that was part of the Panzerschiff D-class.

http://www.scharnhorst-class.dk/scharnhorst/history/pictures/scharnconstr/scharnconstr03.jpg

Therefore, I do not concede, as we were both correct.
Vernii
20-11-2003, 03:52
I never said there wasn't a battleship in WWII. You however stated that there was no armoured cruiser named Scharnhorst, as I quoted above. Therefore, when I posted that pic and the proof, that point was pretty much conceded, as there is no way to argue against that.
20-11-2003, 03:57
That picture was of a Dreadnaught/Battleship, not an Armored Cruiser. I would equivalentize an Armored Cruiser to the definition Battlecruiser, which the WW1 Scharnhorst was not.
Guanyu
20-11-2003, 04:01
Hmmm...I have a ship called the Scimitar as well, hopefully no confusion will result from that.
Vernii
20-11-2003, 04:23
That picture was of a Dreadnaught/Battleship, not an Armored Cruiser. I would equivalentize an Armored Cruiser to the definition Battlecruiser, which the WW1 Scharnhorst was not.

Except that it's not. The picture I posted has no resemblence at all to a dreadnought. And the WWI armoured cruiser Scharnhorst and its sister were no match for a battlecruiser. It and almost it's entire squadron were wiped out by HMS Inflexible and Invincible.

This is a dreadnought. SMS Friedrich der Grosse, flagship of the High Seas Fleet.
http://www.sms-navy.com/SMS_Fri-der-Gross-linedrw_1918a.gif
http://www.sms-navy.com/SMS_Kaiser-pt.jpg

Oh, and Guanyu, I don't think people will mistake them. But I think I will change the name though, since Mars was the first of the class that I introduced in a roleplay.
imported_Erewohn
20-11-2003, 21:24
Erewohn was so pleased with the quality of construction that, we would like to order one Star Falcon yacht.
Vernii
20-11-2003, 21:39
Very well, $900 million. Would you like any customizations in the passenger areas?
20-11-2003, 22:39
You forgot that she had already used the majority of her shells in combat.
Vernii
20-11-2003, 23:14
What the hell? What the hell does that have to with my point of that the pic wasn't a dreadnought, and that point I'm making is that the WWI Scharnhorst is in no way comparable to a BC, and all but one out of five ships in it's squadron were sunk. Your just nitpicking now.
imported_Erewohn
20-11-2003, 23:17
we would like a hot tub installed. *money wired*
Vernii
20-11-2003, 23:27
Very well, the yacht will be delivered in 2 RL days (saturday).
21-11-2003, 00:08
I never said it was a battlecruiser!
Vernii
21-11-2003, 00:11
I never said it was a battlecruiser!
No. You said the pic of the Scharnhorst was a dreadnought, and that an armored cruiser was the equivalent of a BC.
That picture was of a Dreadnaught/Battleship, not an Armored Cruiser. I would equivalentize an Armored Cruiser to the definition Battlecruiser, which the WW1 Scharnhorst was not.
21-11-2003, 00:14
equivalentize

And that's not a word. :lol: You think you're Bush or something?

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Dumbass
21-11-2003, 00:30
Yes. I shall equivalentize our national budgetor, so that we may begin to balancize the debt.

Vernii: My original point still stands. It is still an already used ship class, and unless you are the Imperial Navy...
Vernii
21-11-2003, 02:50
But that still doesn't really matter. People name ships after real ones on NS all the time.
21-11-2003, 03:47
But they don't name classes, and if they do, they are not correct. Don't you want to be better than them? No need to disgrace the name of Gerhard Scharnhorst, and the crew of both of the doomed vessels. Besides the fact that unless you are a German nation, or are familiar with military history, the name Scharnhorst should mean little to anyone.
Vernii
21-11-2003, 04:15
So I suppose by your reasoning, that naming a class Victoria is disgraceful, both to Queen Victoria and to the crew of the predreadnought that was accidentaly rammed.
21-11-2003, 13:29
Canada was once part of the British Empire, and still swears allegiance to the British monarch. Do you swear allegiance to the German Monarch? Not that I know of, especially since the Hohenzollerns are no longer kings.
Vernii
22-11-2003, 02:23
Canada? What does Canada have to do this with. (Im American BTW) and to further explain my post that you replied to: I was saying that if someone on NS named a class of ship Victoria, would you consider that also disrespectful, since there was a predreadnought named that, that was accidentaly rammed and sunk by Camperdown.
22-11-2003, 03:15
I was assuming you meant the actual ship, the 'Victoria', which is a Canadian submarine.

And yes, it would be disrespectful to it. And being american, as am I, I do not expect you to know much about this sort of thing, but Scharnhorst was one of the most influential people in military history. It was he alone that started the German General Staff, which became the staple of militaries world round.
Luna Amore
22-11-2003, 03:32
Just a side comment. These are spacecraft, correct? If the craft is in space, why note how much it displaces? It doesn't displace anything; it's in space.

Luna Amore
Vernii
22-11-2003, 04:03
It says mass also, but I'll fix that.
Vernii
22-11-2003, 04:09
Attican: Pretty much any ship name has been used by RL navies already, which means any name is going to be unoriginal. I name my vessels after ships that existed in the british and german navies of the 19th and 20th century.
22-11-2003, 05:09
:oops: screw 1rst order 1 star falcon ,pls
Vernii
22-11-2003, 05:16
Alright, that'll be 900 million. You could probably afford your previous order in a month or so. Any minor customizations you'd like?
22-11-2003, 07:40
Vernii: No, you are not using ship names. You are using class names. Why dont you make the Hindenburg-class, the Hohenzollern-class, Barbarossa-class, the Charlemagne-class...
Vernii
22-11-2003, 19:26
Actually, I do name my ships after british and german vessels. Some examples from my fleet:

Dreadnought Squadron I
Victory
Imperator
Glorious
Avenger
Thunderer
Iron Duke

And I will reconsider naming the Scharnhorst class, but there will still be a ship named that in my fleet, I'll just rename the class.
22-11-2003, 19:31
OOC: For continuity, the first ship of the class should be named after the class.
Vernii
22-11-2003, 19:34
Alright, Erewohn, your order has been completed. The ships have been sent to your planet. Burning Hate, I just assume that you picked up your ships on thursday. Earthfall, your yacht will completed later today and sent to you if you wish, or you could pick it up.
Vernii
22-11-2003, 19:38
OOC: For continuity, the first ship of the class should be named after the class.

Yes, well some things are unavoidable. We could just pretend that it was the second ship in the class instead, and that Ferdinand is the new class name. It a name I picked out of "The Complete Encyclopedia of Battleships by Tony Gibbons", ever heard of it? It's a good book that I consider myself pretty lucky to have, considering its age.
22-11-2003, 19:42
Nope, never heard of it. I just began construction of a battleship called Karl der Grosse and a carrier called Roland.
Letila
23-11-2003, 02:34
I like the Triumphant class. I'll consider a purchase.

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Mliêstôlkakûmek(Love all as you love yourself)
Racism-the other stupid ideology
Peace, love, and girls with small waists and really big butts!
http://www.sulucas.com/images/steatopygia.jpg
Vernii
23-11-2003, 03:50
Earthfall, your yacht has been sent to you.
Mangala
23-11-2003, 05:06
Star Falcon courier/yacht
Mass (Tons): 50,000
Length Overall: 400
Maximum Beam: 100
Maximum Height: 75
Maximum Acceleration: (G) 528 in Normal-Space; 5,087.5 in Hyper-Space
Complement: 100 (5 Officers + 45 Civ Crew + 50 Passengers)
~ Passenger accommodations include two deluxe single suites, eight single staterooms, and twenty double staterooms. Can be customized at the customers wish.
Cost: $900 million



Mangala's Imperial Council will purchase two please. We can pay in our own currency or in Sunset's currency, the Di-Coin. It's one of the strongest on Mars and is convenient. (also, it is made of either gold or platnium, I forget which)
Vernii
23-11-2003, 06:02
That'll be $1.8 billion and either currency is fine. Are there any minor customizations you'd like in the passenger spaces (hot-tub, bar, etc)? The yachts will be delivered to you sometime tomorrow.
Mangala
23-11-2003, 14:13
Minor customizations? hmm

Convert one of the double staterooms to a security command and control center.
(i.e. vid feed from ship's security cameras, a weapons cabinet, less luxury more space, whatever) If this modification would cost over $1million forget it, we'll do it ourselves.

And sure, throw a bar in each of the delux suites.

thank you, money will be shipped on a government frigate upon delivery.
Vernii
23-11-2003, 19:49
All that will total $200,000. The bars have been stocked with fine alchoholic beverages, and the five pulser hanguns come free in the weapons cabinets.

OOC: Pulsers are like a regular handgun, but fire a metal needle instead of a bullet, and at a much faster speed.
Vernii
23-11-2003, 20:25
Alright, Mangala and Order of Reptiles, your yachts have been sent to you.
Mangala
24-11-2003, 02:16
And your money has been shipped to you, and I hope those little pulsar things wouldn't be able to punch through the hull and compromise it's integrity? Hehe, not that'd we'd ever have to shoot anyone on our own diplomatic courier ship...
Vernii
24-11-2003, 03:13
Pulsers are useful against unarmored targets, like light infantry and civilians. There is more room in the cabinets for other weapons of course.
Vernii
24-11-2003, 03:28
Letila, your order of a Triumphant is confirmed, that'll be $40 billion. It'll be delivered tomorrow.
Letila
24-11-2003, 05:06
We shall name it the Kûtila!xoqolinî.

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Mliêstôlkakûmek(Love all as you love yourself)
Racism-the other stupid ideology
Peace, love, and girls with small waists and really big butts!
http://www.sulucas.com/images/steatopygia.jpg
Vernii
25-11-2003, 01:41
Right, your battleship has been delivered, and what the hell does that name mean?
Letila
25-11-2003, 04:11
Basically, the Planet-twister.

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Mliêstôlkakûmek(Love all as you love yourself)
Racism-the other stupid ideology
Peace, love, and girls with small waists and really big butts!
http://www.sulucas.com/images/steatopygia.jpg
25-11-2003, 04:31
y cant i buy a superdreadnought? is there anything bigger
25-11-2003, 06:57
Kûtila!xoqolinî

Does that have any clicks in it?
25-11-2003, 07:00
Um, just curious as to why the passenger liner has a buncha weapons. hehe
Vernii
25-11-2003, 22:01
Um, just curious as to why the passenger liner has a buncha weapons. hehe

Protection against pirates and commerce raiders. When you have a vessel holding that many people, its definitely a target.
Vernii
26-11-2003, 01:21
Added a new package fleet to the store list. Ordering all that at once gets the customer an $80 billion discount.
27-11-2003, 14:59
i'll take 2 Triumphant Class battleships 80 billion wired on delivery
Vernii
29-11-2003, 00:55
Order confirmed Danesmoore. The ships will be delivered tomorrow.
Vernii
29-11-2003, 20:13
Danesmoore, your ships have been delivered.
Letila
30-11-2003, 18:32
Do you have a pic of the Triumphant class?

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Mliêstôlkakûmek(Love all as you love yourself)
Racism-the other stupid ideology
Peace, love, and girls with small waists and really big butts!
http://www.sulucas.com/images/steatopygia.jpg
Vernii
30-11-2003, 19:33
All honorverse ships basically have the same shape, with minor differences. Pics are too big to post here.

Heres a size comparison of various types of warship from the honorverse.
http://honorverse.pdabooks.org/images/Art_Hull_Comparison.jpg

The small red vessels in this pic are LACs, and the larger vessels are LAC carriers (2.5 km long).
http://honorverse.pdabooks.org/images/Art_AoV.jpg

Directly to the left of Honor's beret are two cruisers.
http://honorverse.pdabooks.org/images/Art_OBS.jpg
Vernii
02-12-2003, 02:18
New pics added. I finally got around to getting a pic hosting account. :)
imported_Erewohn
02-12-2003, 22:07
erewohn would like to purchase 6 light cruisers
Vernii
02-12-2003, 22:17
Alright, that'll be 72 billion, the ships will be delivered later tonight.
Vernii
04-12-2003, 03:07
Erewohn, your light cruisers have been delivered. I finally got the pics working again, I switched pic hosts :) . You know, if you people could give some feedback on how to improve my store, that'd be great.
imported_Erewohn
04-12-2003, 04:07
payment delivered
13-12-2003, 07:33
yes could you make it faster/accelerance/agility?
Vernii
14-12-2003, 00:21
Hmm, for 5 million we could upgrade your yacht with a military grade impeller drive. That'd increase it's acceleration to 605 Gs.
Vernii
14-12-2003, 01:23
UPDATE: I added a Q-ship the storefront, underneath the Misc Ships section. I also added descriptions for every class in the storefront. The first three people to give me a good suggestion on how to improve the store and boost sales get 5% off a ship of their choice.
Vernii
16-12-2003, 23:37
Bump.
Vernii
24-12-2003, 03:01
Well this is frustrating, although understandable considering how many storefronts there are. Isn't anyone interested?
Vernii
30-12-2003, 07:21
UPDATE: Added the new Alamo assault transport. This ship is a must-have for any respectable invader. Be sure to pacify the space above the target planet before though, as the armament is for self defence only.
Vernii
30-12-2003, 21:47
Bump.
30-12-2003, 21:53
OOC: Why, to me, does the triumphant look a little...well, not right ¬_¬
Vernii
30-12-2003, 21:57
Its simply how the hull is laid out. The ships rely on impeller rings for propulsion, which is gravitic tech. Since the propulsion system is ring shaped, that dictates that the hull is going to be cylindrical or cigar shaped. Military vessels have a hammerhead at each end that widens back out, which means more space to mount weapons and sensors.

Anything else is simply your perverted imagination at work. :P
Falastur
30-12-2003, 22:13
Falastur would like to purchase 10 Star Falcons for their up-coming space explorations, and for communications and travel between Earth and the colonies.

~~$9,000,000,000 Wired~~
Vernii
30-12-2003, 22:23
All right, the ships will be delivered in two RL days, on Jan 1st.
Vernii
31-12-2003, 00:55
UPDATE: Price on the Star Falcon yacht has been reduced to $750 million. While that may still seem really expensive for a civilian vessel, I remind customers that it is almost the size of a destroyer, mounts military grade shielding, and is FTL capable.

EDIT: I also reduced the price of the Alamo to $25 billion, from its original price of 35.
31-12-2003, 01:14
5 Light Attack Craft For 7.5 billion


*MONEY WIRED*
Vernii
31-12-2003, 01:34
Excellent. The LACs will be delivered immediately by a freighter.
31-12-2003, 01:41
I would like to purchase the Atlas liner if I may.
Vernii
31-12-2003, 01:47
Vernii
31-12-2003, 01:48
That'll be 15 billion. Delivery will be on Jan 1, Thursday.
31-12-2003, 01:49
*money wired* Thank you for trading with Kerezin have a good day.
Grays Hill
31-12-2003, 02:02
I would like 3 package fleets please. Money wired upon confirmation.
Vernii
31-12-2003, 02:06
Confirmed. Delivery will be on Jan 4, Sunday.
Vernii
31-12-2003, 03:02
Introducing the new Nova-class yacht!

This ship, while only slightly smaller then a Turbulent-class destroyer, is capable of landing on a planet, although with a capacity for two shuttles, why would you need too? President Calimar's yacht, the Corona, is a modified Nova.
Vernii
31-12-2003, 03:26
bumpage
Vernii
31-12-2003, 18:40
Bump.
Kormanthor
31-12-2003, 19:20
BUMP
Kormanthor
31-12-2003, 19:33
Atlas class passenger liner

Mass (Tons): 1,000,000
Length Overall: 1,750
Maximum Beam:225
Maximum Height: 210
Maximum Acceleration (G): 485 in Normal-Space 4,680.5 in Hyper-Space
Complement: 1,000 (75 Officers + 925 Civ Crew)
Passengers: 5,000 (500 1st Class + 1,500 2nd Class + 3,000 3rd Class)
Armament Mounted / Weapon Mount Placement
Missile Launcher: 7 per broadside, 2 per chase.
Laser (30cm): 6 per broadside, 0 per chase.
Laser (60cm): 0 per broadside, 1 per chase.
CM Launcher: 4 per broadside, 2 per chase.
PD laser cluster: 10 per broadside, 4 per chase.
Parasite Complement: Eight shuttles
~These ships are able to carry thousands of passengers in luxurious comfort. They are equipped with heavy cruiser scale shielding, and it's armament is capable of fending off all but the most dedicated pirate attack.

Price: $15 billion.
We wish to purchase 100 Atlas class passenger liners

Nova courier/yacht

Mass (Tons): 30,000
Length Overall: 350
Maximum Beam: 100
Maximum Height: 75
Maximum Acceleration: (G) 575 in Normal-Space; 5,100 in Hyper-Space
Complement: 70 (5 Officers + 35 Civ Crew + 30Passengers)
Parasite Complement: 2 shuttles
~ Smaller and faster then the Star Falcon, the new Nova comes with military grade shielding, and can reach a maximum safe velocity (in normal space) of 60% of light speed. Standard passenger accommodations include two deluxe single suites, eight single staterooms, and ten double staterooms. The yacht also comes with a kitchen, dining room, lounge, and observation deck, and is capable of landing on a planet. Can be customized at the customers wish.
Cost: $800 million
We wish to purchase Twelve Nova courier/yachts

Star Falcon courier/yacht

Mass (Tons): 50,000
Length Overall: 400
Maximum Beam: 100
Maximum Height: 75
Maximum Acceleration: (G) 528 in Normal-Space; 5,087.5 in Hyper-Space
Complement: 100 (5 Officers + 45 Civ Crew + 50 Passengers)
Parasite Complement: 3 shuttles
~ Standard passenger accommodations include two deluxe single suites, eight single staterooms, and twenty double staterooms. The yacht also comes with a kitchen, dining room, lounge, and observation deck, and is capable of landing on a planet. Can be customized at the customers wish.
Cost: $750 million
We wish to purchase Twelve Star Falcon courier/yachts
* Money Wired *
Vernii
31-12-2003, 23:48
Wow. That'll take a while.
The yachts can be delivered in 3 days, but the liners wil probably take two-three weeks.
Vernii
01-01-2004, 01:46
Bump.
Kormanthor
01-01-2004, 17:53
BUMP
Kormanthor
01-01-2004, 17:54
Thats Fine
imported_Erewohn
03-01-2004, 02:43
The Replublic of Erewohn would like to purchase the following for its people.

12 Triumphant Battleships
2 Nova Yachts
6 Alamo Transports
12 Q-ships

total- 930 billion and 400 million
Vernii
03-01-2004, 02:47
Alright, since your an ally I'll reduce the cost to 910 billion. The order will be complete on Thursday, Jan 8.
imported_Erewohn
03-01-2004, 15:38
*money wired*

a pleasure doing business with you sir
Vernii
06-01-2004, 21:31
Kormanthor, your yachts have been finished and will be delivered, Kerezin, your liner has been delivered as well, and Gray Hills your package fleets are complete. Also, I screwed up my computer, so until it's fixed I doubt I'll be on NS more then once a day, if that.
Kormanthor
08-01-2004, 07:38
[quote="Vernii"]Kormanthor, your yachts have been finished and will be delivered.

Thats Fine Vernii, I'll just assume the rest of my order has been delivered after 3 weeks. By the way is that NS or RL time?
Vernii
08-01-2004, 21:09
Two weeks realtime, with 50 delivered every seven days. It would be quicker, but I'm in the middle of a war and my shipyards are busy with repairing military vessels, along with an orbital factory destroyed by enemy raiders.
Vernii
15-01-2004, 21:44
Kormanthor, the first 50 liners have been delivered.
16-01-2004, 05:53
bump?
16-01-2004, 05:53
ill have a package fleet and a nova with docking port for 1 one small fighter (included please, screw price)
Vernii
19-01-2004, 08:35
Alright, that'll be 200 billion for the package fleet, and 800 million for the yacht. I don't sell anything smaller than an LAC, so you'll have to buy fighters somewhere else, but considering that my shuttles are two to three times the usual size of a fighter, you could probably dock 4-6 to the yacht. Delivery in 4 days.
19-01-2004, 19:52
mony wired (ok ill use a lytning thnx)
Vernii
23-01-2004, 05:15
Kormanthor, the remaining 50 liners have been delivered.
Vernii
24-01-2004, 22:32
Bump.
Vernii
26-01-2004, 01:46
UPDATE: Just lowered prices on the missiles and LACs. My pic hosting service apparently ceased to exist while my computer was down, so it might be a few days while I try and find another free service.
Vernii
31-01-2004, 22:03
UPDATE: Pictures are back up.
Vernii
01-02-2004, 03:59
Bumpage.
Vernii
03-02-2004, 22:10
UPDATE: Thanks to new technology I have purchased, the missiles for sale in my storefront are being phased out of my navy. I have lowered the price to $2 million dollars for ten missiles. That is only $200,000 per missile. Thse missiles have a powered flight time of sixty seconds, and accelerate at 85,000 Gs. What does that mean you ask? It means that assuming the missile is launched from a vessel with a velocity of zero, that when it's drive burns out, the missile will be traveling at 50,000 kilometers per second. Add in that it detonates at 20,000 kilometers from its target, provided you use the standard bomb-pumped laser warhead, you have a pretty nasty piece of military technology.
Vernii
06-02-2004, 04:52
Added the new Defender Orbital Fortress. While somewhat expensive, it could take on a squadron of 6 battleships and come out the winner. I'll add a picture as soon as I find a good pic host.
Vernii
06-02-2004, 23:58
Bump.
Vernii
06-02-2004, 23:58
Bump.
Vernii
07-02-2004, 03:08
Next person to buy something gets a 5% discount.
The Territory
07-02-2004, 03:35
<rampant plagiarism deleted>

OOC: Y'now, I've something of a problem with importing Weber-style or worse technology into NS. I also have a problem with storefronts. Oh, and rampant plagiarism.

Well, at least it provides trivial ignore targets.
Vernii
07-02-2004, 03:48
Theres probably a dozen storefronts based on Homeworld or Freespace, what do you call them? I have mentioned several times in threads I'm honorverse based, I don't pretend to be original. I'm not even using the impeller wedges from the books, because that would definitely be godmodding. Also, I'm not the only Honorverse based nation, I can name a couple others.
Valinon
07-02-2004, 04:09
I would expect such trivial nonsense from one of the supposedly "experienced" nations of the game. Your sadly redundant and inept elitism is truly a bore, Territory. Perhaps you would explain to us what gives you such a right to judge originality? Frankly I find your own roleplaying leaves much to be desired.
Also, if you are going to chose a target for your oh-so dread ignore. :lol: Perhaps you would try a better target? One that actually makes since. Or perhaps you fear competition? :lol: I find that more likely, envious are we?
The Territory
07-02-2004, 06:57
Theres probably a dozen storefronts based on Homeworld or Freespace, what do you call them? I have mentioned several times in threads I'm honorverse based, I don't pretend to be original. I'm not even using the impeller wedges from the books, because that would definitely be godmodding. Also, I'm not the only Honorverse based nation, I can name a couple others.

You may have noticed that I've been rather harsh on Sentient Peoples and Clairmont both. Oh, and the vast accelerations and near-unstoppable missiles with multimillion-kilometer engagement ranges pretty much make a joke out of any military not explicitly designed as a godmode.

But hey, my backstory just started saying that I can field Excession-era ROUs. So I'm not that worried. :D

Never much say anything nice about storefronts, no. Homeworld stuff suffers from coming from an RTS universe, the sort where economies double in minutes. I've seen some references to Freespace stuff.

Ultratech storefronts are even worse, since they'll sell stuff to people who did not think the items sold up, and thus are unaware of what they can and cannot do.
The Territory
07-02-2004, 06:59
Valinon, could you rephrase that a bit more coherently? Perhaps a bit less heavy on the adjectives?
Vernii
09-02-2004, 02:24
Sentient Peoples is honorverse? I didn't know that. The problem with being HH based is you have to get rid of the more godmod style tech, or redefine it. As for the missiles, they may be nearly-unstoppable, but most people don't realize that, and treat them as they do every other missile. Just be glad I don't sell missile pods, those things gave Havenite officers nightmares in their sleep.
Vernii
10-02-2004, 02:44
UPDATE: Added a new package fleet, with a 10% discount from its price if everything was bought seperately. Also introducing a new program, first time buyers get 5% off their first single purchase (not including package fleets.)
Vernii
11-02-2004, 23:20
Vernii
11-02-2004, 23:22
UPDATE: Added another package fleet. This one is designed to smash through the defences of a world. The twelve battleships are meant to engage and destroy any fortifications and heavy units, while the battlecruisers are meant to escort the transports, and run down any escaping enemy ships. The transports could carry 100,000 men total, if you just pack infantry in.
Vernii
12-02-2004, 01:42
Bumpity bump.
Vernii
12-02-2004, 22:43
In case no one noticed it, my new policy is a 10% discount to first-time customers. And the next person to buy a ship gets a 5% discount as well.
Taka
13-02-2004, 01:28
The nation of Taka would like to purchase 10 of your Nova class yachts, should they be to our liking, we will purchase more.

8 billion will be wired upon confermation of order.
13-02-2004, 01:32
hello

I'd like to buy a system defence fleet, how do i pay and at this to my nation
Vernii
13-02-2004, 01:46
Actually Taka, since your a first time buyer you get 10% off, and an additional 5% because you were the first to buy something after my sale was announced. It comes to $6.8 billion total. The first five yachts will be delivered immediately, the second five will arrive in 2 hrs RL.

Antenagoras, your a bit small right now to buy all that at once. http://www.pipian.com/stuffforchat/gdpcalc.php?nation=Antenagoras is your current budget, your military budget is most likely 15-20% of your national budget. Right now I'd say you could afford 2-3 LACs.
Vernii
13-02-2004, 02:34
UPDATE: Got a new pic host, pictures are back up.
Valinon
13-02-2004, 03:00
His Majesty, Emperor Rowald Alderman I, wishes to purchase 12 of the Nova-class yachts.
Vernii
13-02-2004, 03:48
Alright, that'll be $8.64 billion, including the 10% discount since you are a first time customer. Delivery of all twelve will be tomorrow morning.
Vernii
14-02-2004, 02:27
Bump.
Vernii
14-02-2004, 18:57
Bump.
Vernii
17-02-2004, 22:21
Movin on up.
Grays Hill
22-02-2004, 03:07
I would like to purchase 1 System Defence Fleet, and 2 Planetary Assault Fleets. Money will be wired upon confirmation.
Vernii
22-02-2004, 05:12
That comes to $1.825 trillion. Nice, your my best customer Grays Hill, since you also purchased those 3 standard package fleets a while back. Delivery of the ships will be complete in 4 days RL. Construction ships will be sent to your nation immediately, to begin construction of the fortress. It will be complete in 2 RL days.
imported_Illior
22-02-2004, 05:20
imported_Illior
22-02-2004, 05:22
i'll take a planetary defense package please (Note: i am NOT A young nation, i am a older nation revived.)
imported_Illior
22-02-2004, 05:22
i'll take a planetary defense package please (Note: i am NOT A young nation, i am a older nation revived.)
imported_Illior
22-02-2004, 05:22
i'll take a planetary defense package please (Note: i am NOT A young nation, i am a older nation revived.)
imported_Illior
22-02-2004, 05:25
i'll take a planetary defense package please (Note: i am NOT A young nation, i am a older nation revived.)
Vernii
22-02-2004, 05:44
Alright, that'll be $479 billion. Delivery of the warships in 2 days RL, and the fortress will also be complete in 2 days.
Vernii
26-02-2004, 03:04
Grays Hill and Illior, both of your orders are complete.
Vernii
29-02-2004, 05:13
I have now opened up a new storefront specializing in system defence.

http://img24.photobucket.com/albums/v73/Jadeite/fort2.jpg (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=127492)
imported_Erewohn
04-03-2004, 02:43
The People of Erewohn would like to purchase the following starships.

10 Planetary assault fleets
20 Defender Forts
300 LAC's

the total is: 9.37 Trillion

the people of Erewohn are awaiting confirmation of their order, and will be ready to set up a billing plan as soon as possible.
Vernii
04-03-2004, 02:52
:shock:

That'll take about 2 weeks RL to complete. As for payment plans, 500 billion a day will work out.

Construction ships will depart immediately for Erewohn to build the forts, two will become operational every two days.
Vernii
12-03-2004, 22:22
Bump.
Dracun imperium
13-03-2004, 20:01
the dracun imperium wishes to buy 10 triumphant class battleships.
the total is 400 billion with a 10 % discount it become 40 billion
*money wired upon confirmation*
Vernii
13-03-2004, 20:31
the dracun imperium wishes to buy 10 triumphant class battleships.
the total is 400 billion with a 10 % discount it become 40 billion
*money wired upon confirmation*


Actually that'd be $360 billion. You got the math confused, you take 400 and multiply by .9, not .1. If this is too expensive for you, we could work out a payment plan. The battleships can be delivered in two days RL.
Dracun imperium
13-03-2004, 22:53
o yes sorry. i see now. anyways what kind a payment plan do you have in mind?
Vernii
14-03-2004, 00:29
http://www.pipian.com/stuffforchat/gdpcalc.php?nation=Dracun%20Imperium

I was thinking 72 billion for the next 5 RL days. Would that be fine with you?
Vernii
14-03-2004, 02:35
UPDATE: Argonaut class freighter added.
Vernii
14-03-2004, 04:02
UPDATE: Added a convoy package fleet to go along with the freighter.
Dracun imperium
14-03-2004, 15:36
that be excellent
Vernii
14-03-2004, 16:43
Very well then, construction will start immediately. You can assume all ten battleships will be delivered on Tuesday morning.
Taka
15-03-2004, 04:00
The nation of Taka requests 180 of your freighters, along with 18 of your Q ships. We are willing to pay in quarterly installments over the next four years for this order, seeing as how so many ships produced at the same time will stress your shipyards. the first instalment will be wired as soon as the order is confirmed. Our good dealings with you in the past have assured that we will come to you for all the ships we are in need of, and unable to produce for ourselves.
Vernii
15-03-2004, 04:15
Order confirmed. The freighters can be delivered 36 a day for the next five days. All 18 Q-ships can be delivered in 2 days.
Vernii
15-03-2004, 04:15
Order confirmed. The freighters can be delivered 36 a day for the next five days. All 18 Q-ships can be delivered in 2 days.
Stromata
15-03-2004, 04:32
I would like to purches to Atlases (If I am correct the are the luxery liners) Yet I would like them to be customized. Instead of luxry liners i would like them to be battleships. Name your price please
Vernii
15-03-2004, 04:42
Two Atlases? Hm, this is actually somewhat weird, since I'm using an Atlas turned warship as a privateer in another thread. Let's see, the stock version is 15 billion each. For 5 billion we could rip out most of the passenger quarters and convert them into extra missile tubes and magazine space. We could fit in an additional 13 missile tubes per side, that'd give 20, the same amount as a Lion class battlecruiser. We could also rip out the broadside laser mounts and replace them with 90cm mounts from a heavy cruiser, and then replace the chase mounts with 150cm lasers. Total cost of each ship would be $20 billion. If this is acceptable both could be delivered in one day.
Vernii
17-03-2004, 02:48
UPDATE: Added a new subclass, the Triumphant-A, right underneath the Triumphant battleship entry. It mounts a much more missile heavy armament then the standard ship of the class, but pays for it with a weaker energy armament.
Vernii
20-03-2004, 02:26
UPDATE: Now taking custom orders for any ship on this store. Want an all missile cruiser? Or perhaps a battleship fitted with nothing but energy weapons? Just ask and it'll be done.
Vernii
21-03-2004, 19:50
Bump.
The WIck
22-03-2004, 05:37
I find it crazy how some ppl can write off others tech as godmodding. It just needs to be adapted and agreement on both parties sides to be used in rp. StarWars tec Star Trek tech, HH tech etc. etc. was never designed to square off with one another obviously it just needs working with.

I also hope in the distant future 500 years of more we will attack targets in space further then 2 km seen in sw or st. Lasers more a light speed they cover lost of ground fast lol

Keep up the awesome work at the store, my military is planning on purchasing additional vessels soon...
Vernii
28-03-2004, 00:59
Bump.
The WIck
30-03-2004, 03:29
THe Commonwealth of the Wick would like to Purchase a taskforce from the shipyard. These ships would be:
4 triumphant BB
4triumphant-A BB
3 Sultan BC
5 Lion BC
8 Mars CA
10 Coutageous CL
16 Turbulent DD

(Perhapes maned by skeleton crews who would then be transfered to your new Fleet Station as the Forts full time crew, no? By the way i will state that a portion of my own ships will be present to welcome the delivery.)

For a total of 941 billion i believe. If these ships could be transfered to you nations fleet station in our homesystem within the next week it would be appricated.
The WIck
30-03-2004, 03:29
THe Commonwealth of the Wick would like to Purchase a taskforce from the shipyard. These ships would be:
4 triumphant BB
4triumphant-A BB
3 Sultan BC
5 Lion BC
8 Mars CA
10 Coutageous CL
16 Turbulent DD

(Perhapes maned by skeleton crews who would then be transfered to your new Fleet Station as the Forts full time crew, no? By the way i will state that a portion of my own ships will be present to welcome the delivery.)

For a total of 941 billion i believe. If these ships could be transfered to you nations fleet station in our homesystem within the next week it would be appricated.
The WIck
30-03-2004, 03:30
THe Commonwealth of the Wick would like to Purchase a taskforce from the shipyard. These ships would be:
4 triumphant BB
4triumphant-A BB
3 Sultan BC
5 Lion BC
8 Mars CA
10 Coutageous CL
16 Turbulent DD

(Perhapes maned by skeleton crews who would then be transfered to your new Fleet Station as the Forts full time crew, no? By the way i will state that a portion of my own ships will be present to welcome the delivery.)

For a total of 941 billion i believe. If these ships could be transfered to you nations fleet station in our homesystem within the next week it would be appricated.
Vernii
30-03-2004, 03:56
Did you add in the 10% first time buyer discount? I believe this is the first time you've made a purchase from this storefront. The first time buyer discounts apply to each store, so someone could get the discount from all three if they wanted. Anyway, would you like the order delivered all at once, in which case it will be 6 RL days, or have ships delivered as they are completed?
The WIck
30-03-2004, 04:37
I would like them all at once please. I did not add a 10% discount, i bought from the Fortifications division of the storefront before though, not the shipyard...
Vernii
30-03-2004, 05:05
Vernii
30-03-2004, 05:05
Then the total comes to $846.9 billion instead. The 10% applies to each store, so you can also use it in the smallcraft storefront. Delivery in 6 days (it would be about 2-3 days, but most of my capacity is currently used up by DGNT's order.)
The WIck
30-03-2004, 16:21
Very good...my finacial commette will begian to pay the bill over the next week it will be paid in full my the time the ships arrive in system. if we find the product to be worth it we will invest in more as our own shipbuilding programs are streched at the monment.
The WIck
30-03-2004, 16:21
Very good...my finacial commette will begian to pay the bill over the next week it will be paid in full my the time the ships arrive in system. if we find the product to be worth it we will invest in more as our own shipbuilding programs are streched at the monment.
30-03-2004, 17:09
I will take 10 Mars

*Money Wired*
Vernii
30-03-2004, 18:03
That comes to $162 billion. Ships will be delivered all at once in three days.
Vernii
03-04-2004, 22:02
UPDATE: Imperious class battlecruiser added.
Vernii
10-04-2004, 18:56
UPDATE: Pic added for Argonaut freighter.
Vernii
12-04-2004, 04:15
UPDATE: Added pic of LACs.
Vernii
25-05-2004, 04:01
Bump.