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War against Holy Grounds (please ask before joining in)

The Canadian Tundra
17-11-2003, 00:18
OOC: This is from the dispute over upper bigtopia thread, except its moved on to a war between me and Holy Grounds due to his terrorist attack on my nation (suicide bombings claiming 13 000 civilians)

The 24 A-10 aircraft made their way over the waters of the ocean as they approached the mainland, and the nation of Holy Grounds.

"This is angel lead to command, we have reached the mainland and have targets in site" angel lead reported in.

"Roger that Angel lead, make sure you get one for me to eh" the captain of the <i>Wasp</i> responded.

"Yes sir, I even painted your name on of the Napalm bombs" Angel lead stated.

"Awesome, just make sure it actually hits its target, not some civilians" the captain said.

"Are you..." angel lead was cut off as the missile lock warning sounded.

From on the ground, several SAM sites opened fire, as AA guns lit the night sky with hundreds of rounds.

The 12 A-10s of the Furious Angel squadron, and the 12 A-10s of the swordstorm squadron barrel rolled and launched countermeasures as they did their best to dodge the AA fire with their sluggish fighters.

One SAM, set with a proximity detonator, exploded just under the main fuselage of Angel Lead's fighter. A warning alarm screamed at the pilot as he quickly checked over his systems.

"Angel Lead! Are you okay!" angel two screamed into the comm.

"Uh, yeah, I'm good, peeled off some armour though..." angel lead said with a sigh of relief.

Then a SAM went straight into the engine of Angel 4, the plane went spiralling down, but the pilot managed to level it off for a crash landing right through main street.

"Angel down! Angel Down!" Angel 7 roared.

"Command, we have a fallen angel, i repeat, we have a fallen angel! Requesting SAR!" angel lead yelled.

"Roger that angel lead, Black Hawks will be lifting off momentarily" the captain replied.

Then the control boards of all the A-10s screamed with weapon locks and 46 air to surface missiles streaked out towards the SAM sites. The salvo was followed up with a full barrage of 30mm cannon fire and a veritable storm of bombs and more missiles as the A-10s emptied themselves completely of their armaments. All of the targets they had been gunning for were gone, and they returned to the <i>Wasp</i>
17-11-2003, 00:21
dictator:"ha ha ha ... wow this is fun good thing i based no military on land. they were all on my cariers. i dont know who they killed but it shure as heII wasnt Holly Ground militants."
"give orders to the 13 other suicide bombers to arm emeadiatly and to focus atension at the largest city in The canadian tundra."

that night
the news: "over 400000 people devastaed in The Canadian Tundra. 78 seperate suicide bombers exploded in _(unspecified by The canadian tundra)_, the used to be largest city in The canadian tundra."

status losses: two choppers 81 suside bomber
recieved 52 missles with which to carry war heads today
the transport crafts departed and have quiqly reached the home land.

anti missle systems have been deployed.
economy has been shifted to military with food and other goods flowing into the nation via neighboring countries(The People's Republic of Sharka's black market)

numours other bombers have been transported into The canadian tundra succecfully and un detected via imports
17-11-2003, 00:23
i have no sam sites

i have phalanx
developed by the brits


out of curiosity just whos country did you hit???
17-11-2003, 00:35
cocain and other addicting substances has been distributed through out the canadian tundra

as a joke 31 of the bombers have left burning sacks of cow dung on the steps of 132 houses.

the canadian tundra news:" another bomber has detonated himself resulting in 1000 deaths. two air planes were hi jacked and flow into highly populated apartment complexes. resultng in 14285 deaths. in other news the park city mall has burned down. it is still unknown what caused the fire. citzens have locked up there doors and postings have been found over the net of a revolt if the the canadian tundra's government isues a draft."(repoter is smoking crack and room is full of a haze.)
17-11-2003, 00:40
Phalanx Close-In Weapons System

General Characteristics
Primary Function: missile defense
Contractor:Raytheon Systems Company (formerly Hughes Missile Systems Company and purchased from General Dynamics Pomona Division in 1992)
Weight: 12,500 pounds (5,625 kg) - Later models: 13,600 pounds (6,120 kg)
Range: Classified
Gun Type: M-61A1 Gatling
Type of Fire: 3,000 rounds per minute - Later models: 4,500 rounds/min (starting 1988 production, Pneumatic Gun Drive)
Magazine Capacity: 989 rounds - Later models: 1,550 rounds
Caliber: 20mm
Ammunition: Armor Piercing Discarding Sabot (APDS), Depleted Uranium sub-caliber penetrator. Penetrator changed to Tungsten 1988. Block 1B will incorporate the new Enhanced Lethality Cartridge with a heavier penetrator.
Sensors: Self-contained search and track radar with integrated FLIR


source http://www.chinfo.navy.mil/navpalib/factfile/weapons/wep-phal.html
17-11-2003, 00:50
four EA-6B Prowlers flew over the canadian tundra's skies

Description: The EA-6B Prowler provides an umbrella of protection for strike aircraft, ground troops and ships by jamming enemy radar, electronic data links and communications


citizens watch as b2s fly over head carpet bombing them and the plaines leave without damge.

death count: un known entire comunities destroyed.

citizens revolt in the canadian tundra after raid
they claim that the government is doing little or nothing to protect them.
The Canadian Tundra
17-11-2003, 00:53
OOC: *sigh* where are the vets with the godmodding bombs....oh, and btw, from i understand a phalanx is meant to defend against incoming missiles, although it could easily be an anti air weapon also. BTW, do you know how many carriers are needed to carry a million men? A hell of a lot more than you can afford to buy, much less maintain. That, and you said you had only 13 other suicide bombers, yet magically 78 more appear. That, and unless they have literally tons of explosives, or nuclear weapons, they wouldn't be able to kill 400 000 people. Also, specify how they managed to evade intelligence and military patrols (common sense here, anyone who isnt authorized to have enough explosives to kill thousands of people wouldn't live more than 2 seconds if a soldier or cop saw them). Also, to have enough explosives to kill that many people (assuming their non nuclear) you would need something to the effect of a massive freighter or supply ship to move. For further reference, our largest city, and capital, is New Toronto.
Falastur
17-11-2003, 01:01
OOC: *sigh* where are the vets with the godmodding bombs....

well, you did say this was a closed RP, you could always IGNORE cannon him if you can't be bothered replying.....
The Canadian Tundra
17-11-2003, 01:03
OOC: I posted my last post at about the same time you did yours Holy grounds, so i never saw it... B-2s now eh...well ain't that just great fun. Well if you get to Godmod then so do i...

IC: I launch 10000000000 nukes at you, you die...

Note: Its only a joke... lol
Falastur
17-11-2003, 01:05
OOC: I posted my last post at about the same time you did yours Holy grounds, so i never saw it... B-2s now eh...well ain't that just great fun. Well if you get to Godmod then so do i...

IC: I launch 10000000000 nukes at you, you die...

Note: Its only a joke... lol

That's the spirit! (also j/k)
The Canadian Tundra
17-11-2003, 01:12
OOC: I was considering the ignore cannon... and it isnt a closed RP, just meant if you want to join in simply ask first so we don't end up with people sending in fleets of warships and legions of ground troops out of nowhere. Besides, i feel the vast nukes i godmodded him back with worked just as well as ignore
Falastur
17-11-2003, 01:18
OOC: I was considering the ignore cannon... and it isnt a closed RP, just meant if you want to join in simply ask first so we don't end up with people sending in fleets of warships and legions of ground troops out of nowhere. Besides, i feel the vast nukes i godmodded him back with worked just as well as ignore

:D

OK, I just saw something about it being not open somewhere....
The Canadian Tundra
17-11-2003, 01:21
Well it doesn't matter now, i won, oh, and my magical cloning bays and land generators fixed all the damage his super suicide bombers did lol :D. Anyways, you wouldn't happen to need any small arms...or engineering vehicles, cuz my storefronts always open...and so far ive only sold 10 sniper rifles...lol

gotta love advertisements at every possible moment...
17-11-2003, 01:22
first of all it would be easy to sneak 78 bombers into canada if i aproach from the north and if they are caught they simply kill them selves. the next one following but not within range of the explosion then countinues forth at a huried rate and if he is caught then boom. i think you get the idea.
secondly my economy has been developing nuklear warheads since i began my country. few recorces have been put to use else were. as for food it is imported in exchange for my wepons.
like i said earlyer i am being suported by black markets and terorist organ izations. they have supplyed me with the goods to buy the transports. also not all of my military is on large ships. smaller faster ships are mass prodused or converted into militatry ships by my suporting organizations. the following are the fleets used to transport the 1 milion troops.


4 air craft cariers. 1500 troops. each loaned with heavy insurance from other countrys in my region.
the disney corporation donated 3 cruise ships to transport the rescued peoples.
4 other ships were lowned to me by cruise corporations
20,000 small boats : 3-13 troops each,
30,000 medium boat: 14-25 troops each,
6169 large boats: 25-38 troops each,

forthly a hell of a lot of explosives can be caried by the terorist
there not going to walk into buildings with c4 on their backs they have more style. thell drive into the building with c4 in their trucks.
they can drive cars and yes there were a few nuclear explosions
my point is just because they kill them selves they arnt stupid.
The Canadian Tundra
17-11-2003, 01:27
Actually, the majority of suicide bombers arent always the smartest of people. And a truck cannot produce an explosion large enough to kill 1000 people unless driven into something to the effect of a stadium, which during wartime against a terrorist nation would be easily protect by police forces or soldiers. And no, you cant sneak suicide bombers into canada from the north (im talking about RL canada) becaue they would die of starvation or freeze to death long before reaching any significant number of people. And 30 000 medium boats is impossible to maintain and fuel...their was an awesome post about logistics somewhere around here, i forget where...
Falastur
17-11-2003, 01:31
their was an awesome post about logistics somewhere around here, i forget where...

check your history on your browser (unless you regularly delete it....)

also, I will check out your storefront, thanks for the tip....
Iasonia
17-11-2003, 01:49
Message to CT...

We are willing to fight on your behalf.

Emperor Romanus Nikos III
17-11-2003, 01:55
very well then you have proven your point.

i will reduce the amount of troops by half. and that is still more than enough to complete the rescue operation.

the bombings are posible think 9/11 (Im not anti amarican or expressing anthing of the sort)

thirdly i beleve it time that i posted my army and if you will do the same this will much more fun.
17-11-2003, 02:01
i will have mine posted by tmarow
The Canadian Tundra
17-11-2003, 03:12
Ok, i'll post my military (ground forces for the most part). I haven't figured out the actual numbers for aircraft and ships yet, and its always open to small modifications. Note, this is only the peacetime military (including reserves), sleeper divisions (those who were in the military before due to our compulsory military service) are always available to go through a few drills to refresh their military minds and arm them from weapon stockpiles. Thanks for stopping your godmodding, although i would suggest that you do use SAM sites since their rather useful for shooting down most aircraft, although A-10s are annoying because they can take a lot of punishment. Having only 500 000 troops is much more realistic then 1 000 000, although it is still a lot for peacetime, but seeing as we're at war right now, i supposed it would be your wartime military.

First division, the Winter's Warriors (currently deployed to Upper Bigtopia):

9072 infantry
12 MASH units
108 Spartan MBTs
36 self powered Vanguard CIWS systems
36 Self powered artillery
36 Arctic Fox IFVs
12 Black Hawks (some equipped with stub wings bearing 20mms and hydras)
24 A-52 combat choppers (based on apaches, these are the first 24 produced, some have bugs and quirks that haven't worked out yet)
8 Badger EVs
4 Beaver bridgelayers

Second Division, the 2nd Arctic infantry:

12,096 infantry
36 APCs
15 MASH units
72 Arctic fox IFVs
24 artillery pieces (12 self powered, 12 towed)
12 Vanguard CIWS vehicles
8 Badger EVs
4 Beaver bridgelayers
24 Arctic Hawks
24 A-51 attack choppers (older, weaker versions of the A-52)

Third Division, the 3rd Arctic Dragoons

324 Spartan MBTs
108 Arctic Fox IFVs
36 ADATS
36 Vanguards
36 Artillery pieces (24 self powered, 12 towed)
15 MASH units
101st independent infantry regiment
12 Arctic Hawks
24 A-51 attack choppers (older, weaker versions of the A-52)

Fourth Division, the Fourth arctic Lancers:

12,096 infantry
36 APCs
15 MASH units
72 Spartan MBTs
24 artillery pieces (12 self powered, 12 towed)
12 Vanguard CIWS vehicles
8 Badger EVs
4 Beaver bridgelayers
24 Arctic Hawks
24 A-51 attack choppers (older, weaker versions of the A-52)

Fifth Division, The Fifth Arctic Hussars:

324 Arctic Fox IFVs
36 APCs
36 Adats
12 Vanguards
24 artillery pieces (12 self powered, 12 towed)
8 badger EVs
4 beaver bridgelayers
3024 infantry
15 MASH units
12 Arctic Hawks
24 A-51 attack choppers (older, weaker versions of the A-52)

Sixth Division, the Sixth Arctic Fusiliers:

216 Arctic Fox IFVs
108 Arctic coyotes (our version of the humvee)
36 APCs
12 ADATs
12 Vanguards
12 self-powered artillery pieces
36 Havoc AFVs (newly produced, still have issues that need to be worked out)
3024 infantry
15 MASH units
12 Arctic Hawks
24 A-51 attack choppers (older, weaker versions of the A-52)

Seventh Division, The Seventh Arctic Fusiliers:

216 Arctic Fox IFVs
108 Arctic coyotes (our version of the humvee)
36 APCs
12 ADATs
12 Vanguards
12 self-powered artillery pieces
36 Havoc AFVs (newly produced, still have issues that need to be worked out)
3024 infantry
15 MASH units
12 Arctic Hawks
24 A-51 attack choppers (older, weaker versions of the A-52)

Eigth division, the Eigth Arctic Infantry:

12,096 infantry
36 APCs
15 MASH units
72 Arctic fox IFVs
24 artillery pieces (12 self powered, 12 towed)
12 Vanguard CIWS vehicles
8 Badger EVs
4 Beaver bridgelayers
24 Arctic Hawks
24 A-51 attack choppers (older, weaker versions of the A-52)

Ninth Division, the Ninth Arctic infantry:

12,096 infantry
36 APCs
15 MASH units
72 Arctic fox IFVs
24 artillery pieces (12 self powered, 12 towed)
12 Vanguard CIWS vehicles
8 Badger EVs
4 Beaver bridgelayers
24 Arctic Hawks
24 A-51 attack choppers (older, weaker versions of the A-52)

Tenth Division, the Tundric Warriors (armored divsion package bought off of Clan Smoke Jaguar)

317xIron Cheetah Export MBT
232xMist Lynx Export IFV
41xMist Lynx Export CFV
54xM2001A1 Crusader SPG
18xM270A1 MLRS
60xM121 Self-Propelled Mortar
38xMist Lynx Export FISTV
37xKodiak Armored Breaching Vehicle (IC Chassis)
18xM946 Combat Engineering Vehicle (IC Chassis)
72xM9 Armored Combat Earthmover
53xM88A2 Hercules Armored Recovery Vehicle
12xM93A1 Fox NBC Recon Vehicle
36xMist Lynx Linebacker Export FAADV
18xAvenger FAADV
18xCLAWS Air Defense Vehicle
18xHUMRAAM (on modified HAWK launcher)
24xAH-64D Apache Attack Helicopter
32xUH-60L Black Hawk Utility Helicopter
16xOH-58D Kiowa Recon/Light Attack Helicopter
5xEH-60 Quick Fix EW Helicopter
Assorted trucks, HMMWVs, CPVs, M113 variants, etc.
Armory complete with 8000xG36A5 Assault Rifle, 2000xNeostead Combat Shotgun, 500xM-29 OICW, 200xMSG-90 DMR, 72xM40A1 Sniper Rifle, 18xM82A1 Heavy Sniper Rifle, 6xIWS-2000 Anti-Materiel Rifle, 500xM249A3 SAW/LMG, 250xMG-3 GPMG, 50xM2HB HMG, 30xMk.19 AGL, 50xJavelin Infantry ATGM launcher, 300xStinger Launcher, 1000xM136 AT4 LAW, 12,000xCougar Pistol, 5000xMP-7 PDW
Complete equipment for infantry, including BDUs, NBC protection gear, and 900 Land Warrior Systems (1 squad per infantry platoon).

Eleventh Division, The eleventh Arctic Lancers:

12,096 infantry
36 APCs
15 MASH units
72 Spartan MBTs
24 artillery pieces (12 self powered, 12 towed)
12 Vanguard CIWS vehicles
8 Badger EVs
4 Beaver bridgelayers
24 Arctic Hawks
24 A-51 attack choppers (older, weaker versions of the A-52)

Twelfth division, the twelfth arctic hussars:

324 Arctic Fox IFVs
36 APCs
36 Adats
12 Vanguards
24 artillery pieces (12 self powered, 12 towed)
8 badger EVs
4 beaver bridgelayers
3024 infantry
15 MASH units
12 Arctic Hawks
24 A-51 attack choppers (older, weaker versions of the A-52)

Thirteenth division, The nightmare reapers, sometimes called Friday the 13th:

3024 elite infantry
3024 infantry
324 Spartan MBTs
108 Arctic Fox IFVs
36 ADATS
36 Vanguards
36 Artillery pieces (24 self powered, 12 towed)
15 MASH units
36 Arctic Hawks
24 A-51 attack choppers (older, weaker versions of the A-52)

First marine regiment (deployed aboard the tigerclaw):
3468 marines
12 Black Hawks
12 Apaches
12 A-10s

Second Marine regiment (deployed aboard the CTS wasp)
3468 marines
12 Arctic Hawks
12 A-51 attack choppers
4 A-10s
8 A-52 fighters

Third Marine Regiment (deployed aboard the first hammerhead):
3024 marines
36 Arctic Fox IFVs
12 Arctic Hawks
12 A-51 attack choppers
8 A-10s
4 A-32 fighters

Fourth Marine Regiment (deployed aboard the second hammerhead):
3024 marines
36 Arctic Fox IFVs
12 Arctic Hawks
12 A-51 attack choppers
4 A-10s
8 A-52 fighters

101st Independent infantry regiment:
3024 infantry

4 reserve contingents, simply called 1st Reserves, or 1st Reserve contingent, etc, etc,. Each contigent consists of 2016 infantry, and 36 vehicles.

Navy:

2 Wasp class landing craft (CTS tigerclaw, CTS wasp, tigerclaw is in upper Bigtopia right now)
2 Hammerhead landing craft (our version of the wasp)
36 killer whale gunboats (6 are in upper bigtopia)
2 destroyers
6 frigates

Air Force:
108 A-32 fighters
72 A-10 fighters
Various cargo planes and the such

Total: Close to around 300 000 personnel...i think...
450 000 support/logisitics personnel.
Ships crews, pilots, and vehicle crews are all trained at maintenance and repairs in order to cut back on the amount of support personnel needed.

Infantry are all equipped with body armour, standard weapon is the A-7, vehicle crews and ship crews are given A-8s, there are machine guns, sniper rifles, and the such distributed in certain ratios. Stats are up at my storefront.

IC: President Ethran looked at the letter he had received from Iasonia, promising assistance in the war against Holy Grounds. Looks like i have some new allies... he thought to himself. He took out a pen, a blank piece of paper, and started writing his response.

To Emperor Romanus Nikos III, from Ethran Verian, president, The armed republic of the Canadian Tundra:

Your offer to assist us in claiming revenge for the devastating terrorist attacks carried out by Holy Grounds is most welcome. We can use all the assistance we can get against these despicable cowards. We have already claimed a military base at a port city and our forces are moving to secure it as our base of operations. In specific, our navy and air force is slightly lacking, and support in these areas would be greatly appreciated. Although if you could move forces in an assault on the other side of Holy Grounds then it would give us both a significant advantage to split his forces in two different directions. As a token of appreciation, we are willing to ship some of the equipment we have up for export to you, as we cannot spare any money during this time of war.

Ethran walked over to the fax machine in his office, and faxed it to the Iasonian government.
The Canadian Tundra
17-11-2003, 13:32
All Tundric forces are standing down based on a request for peace from Holy Grounds. Negotiations will be held later today to work out the actual terms of the threaty.