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Buy Crude Oil fresh from Space Station Trident located on one of Jupiters moons (sorry I can't say which). This moon was once a rich forest sprawling with animal life but is now barron due to the dying Jupiter.
Price is $25 per barrel

Buy Crude Oil fresh from Space Station Trident located on one of Jupiters moons (sorry I can't say which). This moon was once a rich forest sprawling with animal life but is now barron due to the dying Jupiter.
Price is $25 per barrel

$2.5 million wired for 100,000 barrels

OOC: Since when is Jupiter dying? And how?

OOC: Since when is Jupiter dying? And how?

Jupiter is almost big enough to be a star (it's about 1/3 the size of the sun). All Stars are always dying (the more time that passes the weaker they get until eventually a nova, super nova or black hole).

OOC: Since when is Jupiter dying? And how?

Jupiter is almost big enough to be a star (it's about 1/3 the size of the sun). All Stars are always dying (the more time that passes the weaker they get until eventually a nova, super nova or black hole).

Well, we're all dying, too... if you want to go that route. However, that's not what is typically meant by "dying." That term is usually reserved for something nearing the end of its life.

I am perfectly aware of Jupiter's mass and the fact that it is the only natural object in the solar system that radiates out more energy than it absorbs. However, Jupiter... as it is not a star... will not end its life in the same way as a star.

So, the question still remains: I'd really like to know how and why Jupiter is dying... as I'm sure the NS nations and colonies around Jupiter would also like to know.

OOC: Since when is Jupiter dying? And how?

Jupiter is almost big enough to be a star (it's about 1/3 the size of the sun). All Stars are always dying (the more time that passes the weaker they get until eventually a nova, super nova or black hole).

Well, we're all dying, too... if you want to go that route. However, that's not what is typically meant by "dying." That term is usually reserved for something nearing the end of its life.

I am perfectly aware of Jupiter's mass and the fact that it is the only natural object in the solar system that radiates out more energy than it absorbs. However, Jupiter... as it is not a star... will not end its life in the same way as a star.

So, the question still remains: I'd really like to know how and why Jupiter is dying... as I'm sure the NS nations and colonies around Jupiter would also like to know.

ok if you want to get technical it is getting weaker

Well, the Sun is getting "weaker" over time, too... but we don't say that it is dying yet. So, I'd like to know what has changed from Jupiter's normal decay to classify it as "dying."

Well, the Sun is getting "weaker" over time, too... but we don't say that it is dying yet. So, I'd like to know what has changed from Jupiter's normal decay to classify it as "dying."
He's basically saying (I think) that Jupiter was once intense enough to support life on one or more of its moons but got so weak that it is no longer able to. Hence alot of dead animals, plants= alot of fossil fuels

To this day, Jupiter emits enough radiation to kill just about any life on its moons... in the past, the radiation would have been even stronger.

To this day, Jupiter emits enough radiation to kill just about any life on its moons... in the past, the radiation would have been even stronger. unless of course that moon had an atmosphere which would block radiation like earth's atmosphere does. And dude it is RP you can't be 100% accurate on every detail, your taking this way too seriouslly

Earth's atmosphere isn't what blocks the radiation so much as the magnetosphere does. Jupiter's moons have no such protection.

Earth's atmosphere isn't what blocks the radiation so much as the magnetosphere does. Jupiter's moons have no such protection. Yes but what is to say they didn't years ago, i highly doubt u were around back then to tell me otherwise

We could measure the residuals if the moons had once had magnetospheres of their own. Even if they did, they would not have been powerful enough to block all of the intense radiation that Jupiter emits. I may not have been around back then to tell you otherwise, but I do have the scientific training and knowledge to do so.

We could measure the residuals if the moons had once had magnetospheres of their own. Even if they did, they would not have been powerful enough to block all of the intense radiation that Jupiter emits. I may not have been around back then to tell you otherwise, but I do have the scientific training and knowledge to do so. Want a cookie?

I'm simply saying that the conditions were not there for fossil fuels to form on Jupiter's moons and that you failed to give a good explanation for why you found it. Unless you aren't open to constructive criticism?

I'm simply saying that the conditions were not there for fossil fuels to form on Jupiter's moons and that you failed to give a good explanation for why you found it. Unless you aren't open to constructive criticism?
Constructive criticism is one thing, but your constructive criticism is just flat out attacking a theory that hasn't been proved wrong.

The conditions do not exist on the moons around Jupiter for fossil fuels to have formed... especially since crude oil forms not from dead forests and animals, but from algae and plankton that die and are deposited on sea beds. You're essentially trying to say that millions of years ago, when Jupiter emitted even more radiation than it does now, one of Jupiter's moons that has never had the mass to support either an atmosphere or magnetosphere dense enough to block all that radiation was somehow capable of supporting surface life on a large enough scale to produce large crude oil deposits. The simple fact of the matter is that the conditions are not and were not ever there.

The conditions do not exist on the moons around Jupiter for fossil fuels to have formed... especially since crude oil forms not from dead forests and animals, but from algae and plankton that die and are deposited on sea beds. You're essentially trying to say that millions of years ago, when Jupiter emitted even more radiation than it does now, one of Jupiter's moons that has never had the mass to support either an atmosphere or magnetosphere dense enough to block all that radiation was somehow capable of supporting surface life on a large enough scale to produce large crude oil deposits. The simple fact of the matter is that the conditions are not and were not ever there.

In your opinion, In several NASA scientists opinions however there is

dont know if anyone has sead this but did u know jupiter is growing vary vary slowly,

In your opinion, In several NASA scientists opinions however there is

Can you source this?

Edit: I just looked back and noticed another issue. I can't help but wonder how the price per barrel is so low. Unless Trident is a future tech nation that doesn't really need oil to begin with except for plastics, the cost of mining that oil and shipping it across the solar system would be ridiculous.

In your opinion, In several NASA scientists opinions however there is

Can you source this?

I will check, The articles headline was "Scientists conclude no life on Mars, looking towards Jupiters Moons" or something to that effect

I will check, The articles headline was "Scientists conclude no life on Mars, looking towards Jupiters Moons" or something to that effect

*facepalm* I never said that there wasn't any life on Jupiter's moons... I said that the conditions for forming oil are not there. If there is life on some of Jupiter's moons, it is centered on geothermal vents that have miles of deep water and ice protecting them. However, if I remember correctly, the conditions at those vents are not conducive to oil formation.

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