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Sell me your Naval Battleships

16-11-2003, 21:24
I am looking to aquire 1 each of the battleships of NS for the Plaxtonian fleet. I currently have
1 Norad Class Battleship
1 Iowa Class Battleship
1 Rommel Class Battleship
1 Halder Class Batteship
1 Adelie Class Battleship
1 Constellation Class Battleship
1 Excelsior Class Battleship
1 Hurricane Class Battleship
1 J-Class Grand Battleship (on order)

If we have not yet purchased one of your battleships, please either post the statistics or the link here so that we may increase our battleship force to encompass all the types technology in the NS world.
Thank you.
Senior Rep. Matthew
16-11-2003, 21:29
I have China's Battleship, Yeng. Only $700 billion USD.
21-11-2003, 15:33
700 billion or 700 million? and do you have stats or a pic.. (If it's really 700 billion forget about it)

Anyway i still need some mor battleships, sell me those bships I know they are out there somewhere.
Five Civilized Nations
21-11-2003, 15:36
The 5CN in an effort to downsize its battleship fleet will be willing to sell its Constellation Class Battleship...

Constellation Class Battleship

http://www.mobile.org/html/gallery/images/battleship.jpg

Dimensions

Length Overall 887 feet, 3 inches (270.4m)
Waterline Length 860 feet, 0 inches (262.7m)
Maximum Beam 108 feet, 2 inches (32.9m)
Mean Draft @ 43,875 tons 28 feet, 8 inches (8.7m)
Mean Draft @ 59,331 tons 37 feet, 2 inches (11.3m)

Armament

9x 16-inch/50 caliber Guns (Mark 7) (406mm)
12x 5-inch/38 caliber DP Guns (Mark 12) (127mm)
4x 20mm/76 CIWS Anti-Aircraft/Missile
32x BGM-109 Tomahawk Cruise Missiles
16x RGM-84 Harpoon Anti-Ship Missiles

Armor

Main Side Belt 12.1 inches inclined 19 degrees (307mm)
Main Deck Armor 1.5 inches (38mm)
Second Deck Armor 4.75 + 1.25 inches (121mm + 32mm)
Splinter Deck Armor .625 inches (16mm)
Barbette 17.3 to 11.6 inches (439-295 mm)
Turret Face Plate 17.0 + 2.7 inches (432mm + 63mm)
Turret Side 9.5 inches (241mm)
Conning Tower 17.5 inches (444mm)

Machinery

Boilers 8 Babcock & Wilcox three drum 565psi -
850F (39.72 kg/cm2 - 454.4C)
Turbines Four sets geared turbines
(GE BB61&63, Westinghouse BB62&64)
Shaft Horsepower 212,000 (214,941 mph)
Maximum Speed 33.0 knots @ 202 rpm
Nominal Endurance 18,000 nautical miles @ 12 knots - 1945
Inboard Screws Two 17 foot 0 inch (5.182m) five-blade
Outboard Screws Two 18 foot 3 inch (5.563m) four-blade
Rudders Two, 340 sq. ft. (31.6 sq. m.) each
21-11-2003, 15:38
We would be very interested in purchasing this ship for our fleet, how much are you willing to sell it for?
Five Civilized Nations
21-11-2003, 15:39
I'll sell each battleship of the Constellation Class for US$2.5 billion...
21-11-2003, 15:39
Sold! *money wired*
Five Civilized Nations
21-11-2003, 15:41
How many do you want?
21-11-2003, 15:41
one
Five Civilized Nations
21-11-2003, 15:43
okay...

*sale confirmed*

vessel can be picked up either at the Clearwater Naval Base in the Pacific or at the North Watch Academy... Your pick...
21-11-2003, 15:52
We will pick it up at the Clearwater Naval Base thank you.
21-11-2003, 15:56
We'd be willing to sell you one of our guided-missile battleships for $7 Bilion dollars. Note: the price includes the helos and a full load of weapons, as well as 5 complete reloads.

Hurricane class BBGN

This is our standard battleship design intended for AAW and ASuW.

Displacement, Fully Loaded: 103,500 tons
Length: 345m
Beam: 42m
Draft: 12m
Machinery: 2 nuclear reactors, turboelectric drive, 280,000 horsepower on four shafts=30 knots
Crew: 2,495
Armor: Belt 40cm, conning tower 45cm, deck 18cm, all-or-nothing protection
Combat Systems:
Mk 7 AEGIS Air Defense System
640 MK 41 VLS cells
4 Mk 45 Mod 4 5"/62 DP guns
48 MSS-20A Pilum SSMs in heavy VLS tubes
4 RAM 21 round launchers
8 Goalkeeper CIWS
Extensive sensor/ESM/ECM/ECCM suite
Aircraft: 4 SH60R Seahawks
Typical missile loadout:
500 Standard SM-2 Block IVAs
40 Standard SM-3 ABMs
192 ESSMs(48 quad packs)
52 Tactical Tomahawks

Stats on the Pilum:
MSS-20A Pilum Heavy Anti-ship missile
This is a heavy, long range anti-ship missile designed for use against large, heavily armored vessels. It is equiped with a built-in jammer and is programed to perform evasive manuvers during the terminal attack phase, which combine to make it extremely difficult to shoot down.
Length: 12 meters
Diameter: 1.04m
Wingspan: 2.6m
Propulsion: solid rocket booster, ramjet sustainer
Speed: Mach 2.5 to 3
Max Range: 300nm/550km
Flight altitude: 5 to 15 meters, final phase
Warhead: 1000kg armor-piercing blast fragmention
Guidance: Inertial w/ 2 way data link and Active Radar terminal, with IR backup.
Five Civilized Nations
21-11-2003, 16:01
This is about the unwieldest BB that I have ever seen...

A) The BB is too short... Its gonna look like a circle or an oval... Its gonna be wider than its long...

B) Its not considered a BB without the big guns and the length... Its probably a cruiser...

C) There is no way you can have so much stuff on that deck...
21-11-2003, 16:20
This is about the unwieldest BB that I have ever seen...

A) The BB is too short... Its gonna look like a circle or an oval... Its gonna be wider than its long...
It's dimensions are similar to a Nimitz. Though I'll lenghten it a bit.

B) Its not considered a BB without the big guns and the length... Its probably a cruiser...
It's classed as a battleship due to it's size, firepower, and armor. See above on the length.

C) There is no way you can have so much stuff on that deck...
Considering the amount of missiles that can crammed into a Tico or Burke, I don't see a problem.
TJHairball
21-11-2003, 17:12
Generally, aircraft carriers are of blockier shape than battleships; however, I would have to note that this actually appears close to realistic, much more so than most superdreadnaughts/superbattleships posted here on NS. The only problem is that a 100,000 ton displacement warship is perhaps not the best idea, structurally.

(The guns do not necessarily define a battleship in this day and age)
23-11-2003, 07:05
I will take one of your Hurricane class BBGN.

*money wired*
Soviet Haaregrad
23-11-2003, 07:24
This is about the unwieldest BB that I have ever seen...

A) The BB is too short... Its gonna look like a circle or an oval... Its gonna be wider than its long...

Umm... it's still 10 times longer then it is wide.


B) Its not considered a BB without the big guns and the length... Its probably a cruiser...

Original battleships didn't mount any big guns, the RMS Dreadnought was the first big gun, high speed battleship.


C) There is no way you can have so much stuff on that deck...

It's not that much, anyways, some of it might be below deck, or otherwise mounted oddly.
23-11-2003, 07:58
700 billion or 700 million? and do you have stats or a pic.. (If it's really 700 billion forget about it)

Anyway i still need some mor battleships, sell me those bships I know they are out there somewhere.

it's 800 million, sorry.

Here's a pic of it.... (sorry about the gray-ness of the pic)
http://www.hazegray.org/mysteries/oldmyst/pic74a.jpg
The Sword and Sheild
23-11-2003, 08:49
Excelsior class Battleship

Length: 940 Ft
Beam - 140 Feet
Displacement Standard - 64,000 Tons
Displacement, full load - 69,500 Tons
Complement - 2,000
Aircraft - 1 SH-2 Seasprite helicopter, 2 UAV's

ARMOR
Belt - 15 in
Main Deck - 7 in In
Lower Deck - 3 In
Main Turrets - 20 In
Conning Tower - 18 In

Armament
8X 17'/50 Cannons in two Quad turrets
10x 5' in Cannons in 5 Double turrets
6x 20MM VUlcan Phalanx CIWS systems
32x Tomahawk Cruiser missiles
16x Harpoon Anti-ship Missiles
Extensive ECM/ESM systems

Propulsion
2 Nuclear reactors (A4W)
280,000 Horsepower
4 Shafts
Max Speed - 30 Knots
Range (Without refuel) - 800,000-1,000,000 miles, 15 Years



There is only one for sale, currently sitting in my Naval base at Corregidor, being sold to afford research and design for my new Carriers, the other 3 Excelsiors are not for sale. For 2.8 Billion
23-11-2003, 09:12
we have a SPARTEN S.N.D. you can buy it here at http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=96249
Lapse
23-11-2003, 09:23
We have the Catfish Skirish Ship and the Catfish Skirmish II ship

Catfish Skirmish ship: $1,500,000,000
Catfish Skirmish II ship: $2,500,000,000

the Cat fish skirmish ship

http://www.freewebs.com/nsmpa/catfish3.bmp

dimensions
length: 123m
width: 65m
height: 31m
weight: 17000 ton w/o stores
23000 ton inc stores


surface specs
max speed: 25knots
noise at 1 km: 5dB

submersible specs
max speed: 12 knots
noise at 1 km: 1.3dB
max depth: 523m

Crew
1 captain or higher
3 commanders
10 leitenants
231 seamen
15 helicopter crew
=260 crew

Arsenal
4 torpedo tubes
4 anti air missile batteries
7 bombardment missile launchers (3 tubes each)
2 rocket launchers (for V4 rockets or whatever you use)
2 apache attack helicopters
2 cargo helicopters

ammunition
200 torpedoes
400 aa missiles
800 missiles
100 V series rockets
15000 round of light arms
10000 helicopter machine gun rounds
200 helicopter missile

Food stores
Water: fresh water for 30 days and salt removal systems onboard
Food: refrigerated system holds food for 30 days
live meat for 20 days

engine
fuel: 72000 L (enough for 36 days at full consumption)
6 1200 Hp deisel powered imprellors producing a combined strength of 7200 HP
2 7000 HP jet engines for above water

Storage
Can be adjusted
default set up:
2 M-33M4 Eisenhower heavy tanks with 200 rounds each
4 Mech infantry with 10000 rounds each
50 infantry units with 200 rounds each and 10000 rounds in storage


Advatages
AEGIS standard




the Cat fish skirmish II ship

http://www.freewebs.com/timelapse/skirmish2.bmp

dimensions
length: 152m
width: 72m
height: 34m
weight: 31000 ton w/o stores
40000 ton inc stores


surface specs
max speed: 35knots
noise at 1 km: 7dB

submersible specs
max speed: 15 knots
noise at 1 km: 1.5dB
max depth: 576m

Crew
1 captain or higher
3 commanders
12 leiutenants
387 seamen
15 helicopter crew
=260 crew

Arsenal
4 torpedo tubes
4 anti air missile batteries
8 heavy bombardment missile launchers (3 tubes each)
8 medium bombardment missile launchers (3 tubes each)
2 rocket launchers (for V4 rockets or whatever you use)
2 apache attack helicopters
2 cargo helicopters

ammunition
200 torpedoes
400 aa missiles
2000 missiles
150 V series rockets
15000 round of light arms
10000 helicopter machine gun rounds
200 helicopter missile

Food stores
Water: fresh water for 30 days and salt removal systems onboard
Food: refrigerated system holds food for 30 days
live meat for 20 days

engine
fuel: 96000 L (enough for 36 days at full consumption)
8 1200 Hp deisel powered imprellors producing a combined strength of 7200 HP
2 7000 HP jet engines for above water

Storage
Can be adjusted
default set up:
2 Mech infantry with 10000 rounds each
50 infantry units with 200 rounds each and 10000 rounds in storage


Advatages
AEGIS standard




More ships are available at http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=70099 including packages
23-11-2003, 09:34
The Sword and Sheild I will purchase your vessel,

Mighty Mountains and SPARTEN, I will have to decline your offers.


Lapse, those images you posted show multiple gun turrets and no missile launchers and you description is confusing...
The Sword and Sheild
23-11-2003, 10:00
Very well, the ship (The former FNS Belisarius BB-28 ), will begin it's final journey under the SnS flag from Corregidor to the port of your choice. It will be sent by us, and escorted by the Alaska class battlecruiser FNS Olympia which will also return the skeleton crew that will navigate the ship to your land, back to Corregidor.



- Federal Naval Command, Corregidor
Lapse
23-11-2003, 10:04
Lapse, those images you posted show multiple gun turrets and no missile launchers and you description is confusing...

im a crappy drawer and i have no idea on how to draw the difference in an isometric view. and i cant be bothered
23-11-2003, 10:13
I will sell this for the C&C factor :wink:

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-11/502999/sshot011.JPG

I can do the carrier if you want.
23-11-2003, 15:34
I will take one of your Hurricane class BBGN.

*money wired*
Confirmed. The ammo reloads and Seahawks will arrive in one RL day, and the vessel in 3 RL days.
Artitsa
23-11-2003, 16:12
http://www.angelfire.com/music5/drunk_man/images/Class_J_Battleship.jpg
24-11-2003, 00:52
Freedom Country could you provide statistics on your vessel.

Artisia I will purchase 1 of your J class
Artitsa
24-11-2003, 00:56
confirmed.
24-11-2003, 00:58
im a crappy drawer and i have no idea on how to draw the difference in an isometric view. and i cant be bothered
Lapse I actually like the drawing, and would probly buy it if the weapons coresponded with the picture.
The Sword and Sheild
24-11-2003, 00:59
You can also check my Warship storefront for 2 other BB designs and a Battlecruiser design
Lapse
24-11-2003, 07:35
im a crappy drawer and i have no idea on how to draw the difference in an isometric view. and i cant be bothered
Lapse I actually like the drawing, and would probly buy it if the weapons coresponded with the picture.

As i said id have no idea how to draw a missile launcher on, they are located though

On the skirmish I ship: 1 on each hull at the far rear, 1 on each hulll at the very front, same on the Skirmish II. The V series rocket launchers rises out of that rectangle at the back of the hulls