NationStates Jolt Archive


ISAN seeks assistance on assembling carrier air-wings

Andaman and Nicobar
16-11-2003, 15:57
(Basically, ISAN wants to decide which of its present service aircraft to utilise on its new carriers- and/or what new aircraft to acquire, as well as what ratios from those aircraft to deploy in service)

The Incorporated States of Andaman and Nicobar, a nation of islands in the Bay of Bengal, has lately come under attack from "a bunch of lunatics" (President Brown's words), and finds itself likely to require significant force-projection abilities.

Apart from the threat of all out war, the ambitious nation, independent from India since only the mid C20th, has dreams of global influence. Again, the ability to effect a military presence far from home is important.

With eight Wasp Class assault ships already in service, the nation is preparing to commission two forty thousand tonne Liberation Class carriers (Liberation being the nation's capital). Sadly, having no experience in the field, naval chiefs are pressed to seek advice.

The Liberation Class carriers are likely to accept a wartime air-wing in the area of 45 aircraft.

The carriers will likely be employed primarily in search of local air superiority covering ambhibious operations from Wasp Class assault ships. Ground attack/ASW capacity are the secondary duties.

There is no standardised airborn early warning aircraft in ISAN service- the navy is presently open to contracts for their acquisition.

Major service aircraft available already include large numbers of F-4 Phantom- popular with servicemen and readily available, large numbers of Eurofighter Typhoon -the nation's main aircraft in the air-superiority role, smaller numbers of Viggen, F-16, Su-25 and A-10 (likely far from suitable for mid-sized carriers?), and plenty of Chinook and Super Cobra helicopters.

Any related advice would be appreciated, and funds remain available for entirely new acquisition programmes, or development/adaptation of present aircraft for the carrier role.
Crookfur
17-11-2003, 02:04
HHmm and interesting conumdrum.


As to your AEW requirement for a carrier based one the EA-60 by United Elias (and others) is likely a good choice and has varients in a number of useful carrierborne roles (anti sub, cargo, EW etc).

If you require a land based strategic level system then our CFE-9 longshore AWACs maybe of use.


In terms of air wing make up i would probabaly go for 3 12 plane squadrons of fighters (2 AS, 1 attack or 3 multirole) leaving you nine slots for say 2 AEW/AWAC, 2 anti sub (either fixed wing or rotary) and 5 miscellanious).

As to what plane to choose from your current selection: well i would go for the phantom (provided it has all the modern upgrades availble) as it offers decent multirole perfromance and was designed for carriers. heoretically speaking, SU-25s and A-10s could operate from carriers but can't really be stored as they have larger than normal wingspans and don't have a wing folding ability. The Typhoon did during planning and design have a carrier version but it disappeared under the JSF cloud perhaps reviving it might be a way forward.

OF course i could offer you all sorts of wonderful alternatives to buy (such as my CFF-5 Dragon pearl family and UE's A-12 based tactical bomber) and no doubt others will but while not cutting edge you likely have a strong basis to form a credable fleet air arm.
Britmattia
17-11-2003, 02:19
Updated my carriers yesterday, so this is topical. there's 3 types of carrier aircraft, CTOL, SVTOL and STOBAR, which are respectively Conventional Take-Off/Landing, Short/Vertical TakeOff/Landing and Short Take off But Arrested Landing. Don't ask how they got the last one. Anyway, they had planes for each category.
The CTOL type had the F/A-18 Hornet and the USN version of the JSF. The STVOL version launched harriers and the USMC/RN version of the JSF.
The STOBAR version was listed as being capable of using a navalised EF-2000 Typhoon (Eurofighter).
Hope that was some help. Personally I use JSFs on CTOL & SVTOL carriers. :)
*this is the url i got the link from*
http://www.warships1.com/BRcv10_CVF_specs.htm
Andaman and Nicobar
17-11-2003, 02:28
Hm, your time is appreciated. ISAN shall look into the mentioned AEW/AWACs aircraft (when I am less tired).

Most of the F-4s in ISAN service are moderately up-graded through domestic programmes. Further is likely going to be required.. pending research (both I and OO C). No doubt Israel will have something to offer on the matter. Usefull chaps, them (said the diplomat from an office scene backed by a line of parked AN-60C M-60 upgrade MBTs).

At present it is also looking more and more likely that a programme will be initiated for naval optimisation of the Typhoon.

Thinking in the government appears to be as you hint- a loosely termed credable force is good enough, since ISAN has no intention of pursuing armed conflict with anyone who can actually fight back ;)
Andaman and Nicobar
17-11-2003, 02:32
Ah, yes. The Liberation Class is probably something roughly on a par with the UK future aircraft carrier and/or French De Gaulle. Suggestion that room be made in the national budget for maintaining a rival to the Nimitz Class caused the president much mirth.