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does anyone have any sattelites that are for sale that can hold nuclear missiles to launch from space. I can pay over time.

As an ally I'll provide you with two. They would be mine in the long run, but under your control until your "term" (whatever that might be) expires.

Sounds great When will the order be delivered and does it come with the missiles and if so how many

Sounds great When will the order be delivered and does it come with the missiles and if so how many

Alright, they will launch off the pad in Cordoba, Macabea in two years ( I have to build them)... they will not be carrying nuclear weapons on their way up.

When they are there and in orbit seven seperate space craft will transport 21 missiles up to the sattelites and those will be yours to control. The Macabean military will have NO control or say whatsoever, EXCEPT, if it directly affects the region of Grossdeutshland.

Nukes and 2 day old nations.....gah. *Sighs and throws yet another file into the 'Hopelessly Lost Yet In Desperate Need of Correction' bin.*

Nukes and 2 day old nations.....gah. *Sighs and throws yet another file into the 'Hopelessly Lost Yet In Desperate Need of Correction' bin.*

Its a big deterrent against larger nations, unless your fighting against people who nuke you without thinking..then your just SCREWED!

He is helping out a smaller nation. I dont see anything wrong with that. You must have a problem in calling a larger nation like the macabees small

Nukes and 2 day old nations.....gah. *Sighs and throws yet another file into the 'Hopelessly Lost Yet In Desperate Need of Correction' bin.*

Its a big deterrent against larger nations, unless your fighting against people who nuke you without thinking..then your just SCREWED!

I assume you have a "back door" control in case your new ally decides to turn on you.

Why would i turn on someone 500x as big as me and helped me out my second day of playing i dont know what ur smoking

I find it far more preferrable for people to lend satellite or ground based anti-missile systems to new nations than to give them nukes as a deterrent. Giving them nukes only further exaggerates the nuclear proliferation problem we have now, and causes problems later when these nations tell other nations they legitimately have nukes, and no one believes them. Far too many people think with nukes first. Place an antimissile system in the midst of this, you rule out nukes, and things break down into conventional wars and hopefully good RPs. Not "Threat from <name> prompts nuclear attack. - THE END." Please rethink what you're doing Macabees.

Yea, that's explained in the big "explanation"... I have no control unless he is sensed turning the sattelite's targets to me... a whole mess of techno mumbo jumbo which does all of that...

I find it far more preferrable for people to lend satellite or ground based anti-missile systems to new nations than to give them nukes as a deterrent. Giving them nukes only further exaggerates the nuclear proliferation problem we have now, and causes problems later when these nations tell other nations they legitimately have nukes, and no one believes them. Far too many people think with nukes first. Place an antimissile system in the midst of this, you rule out nukes, and things break down into conventional wars and hopefully good RPs. Not "Threat from <name> prompts nuclear attack. - THE END."

I don't use nukes, I produce them to sell or lend, but I don't use them and I don't "own" any active nukes, It ruins RP's... but I'm also willing to help out others...so yea...

I also think it ruins the game but to get started think small versus LARGE. What am i going to use my 1 million man army if even that.

I find it far more preferrable for people to lend satellite or ground based anti-missile systems to new nations than to give them nukes as a deterrent. Giving them nukes only further exaggerates the nuclear proliferation problem we have now, and causes problems later when these nations tell other nations they legitimately have nukes, and no one believes them. Far too many people think with nukes first. Place an antimissile system in the midst of this, you rule out nukes, and things break down into conventional wars and hopefully good RPs. Not "Threat from <name> prompts nuclear attack. - THE END."

I don't use nukes, I produce them to sell or lend, but I don't use them and I don't "own" any active nukes, It ruins RP's... but I'm also willing to help out others...so yea...

You may not use these nukes in RPs; however, others probably will at some point, or will attempt to. I have nothing against aiding other nations, but when the aid involves giving them the most powerful weapon known to man, I must speak up. Especially when said nation receiving the aid is brand new to NationStates and does not know how things work around here. In 99% of all cases, to lease or sell nukes to a young nation is to ask for problems.

I have seen my friends play and they have very large nations and have played for a long time I know how the game works and i need an edge against bully nations until im a little bit bigger. You guys were new once they probably picked on you to. Dont u wish u had such great allies like macabees.

I also think it ruins the game but to get started think small versus LARGE. What am i going to use my 1 million man army if even that.

Actually, much smaller than 1 million. A 6 million population nation should have between 600,000 and 1.2 million military personnell, of which 25-35% are actually troops, sailors, and pilots. And while it may not seem fair at first, there is a point to it. While you are new and small, you cannot do much, however, you can observe and learn from others so that you know what to do and how to do it once you ARE large enough. Also, you're thinking strictly in terms of military. Not all RPs have to involve war, you know.

Nukes do mess up RPs. In one day, a nation will be a crater ... then everyone screams "GODMOD".

I have seen my friends play and they have very large nations and have played for a long time I know how the game works and i need an edge against bully nations until im a little bit bigger. You guys were new once they probably picked on you to. Dont u wish u had such great allies like macabees.

Everyone was new, everyone had to deal with being small, everyone had to work their way up the technological ladder, you should do the same. And generally speaking, new nations are only picked on if they godmod, or do something very foolish. Stay smart, remember your current size, and RP well, and all will be well.

Quite true in most cases only if over done. One nuke will not mess up every thing forever only for a little while allowing u to build ur forces and have a fare battle. Only if someone uses a million nukes then it is time to worry

But your scenarios are painting Papua was a horrible n00b that would take any chance to blow some nations off the face of the earth, which is only the opposite of the truth.

He merely wants them to protect himself until he has the resources to ably defend himself against no gooddoers who like to sack new nations just for their insane fun.

But your scenarios are painting Papua was a horrible n00b that would take any chance to blow some nations off the face of the earth, which is only the opposite of the truth.

He merely wants them to protect himself until he has the resources to ably defend himself against no gooddoers who like to sack new nations just for their insane fun.

PG is handling himself well.

Nukes are not required for such as task; an antimissile system would take care of any newbie hunting nukes, and larger nations can defend Guinea from conventional attacks until he is large enough to support his own defensive military. The Armed Republic of Great Mateo will be there to defend Papua Guinea from attack should the nation call upon us, as long as this 'nuclear lease' is canceled.

I would like to know why anyone wants to put nuclear missiles on a satellite.

Mateo has a point, most larger nations are willing to stick up for a newbie who is the target of random agression, I'm one of them. . . well ussualy, I've lost my temper a few times and flatted a couple n00bs, but I tend to reward good roleplayer by stepping to thier defence. We have some ortillary platforms we would be willing to sell you, we would even put them in geosynch orbit for you. cheaper than nuclear weapons, and almost as effective, it will provide you with not only an anti nuclear satalight, it will also give you the ability to drop ordinace over your own land mass, providing you with instant artiliary as soon as your foes hit your border, and to make it better, its difficult to shoot down ortilary stalights. not impossible mind you, but so long as you don't let that cat out of the bag when someone declares war on you, you can hammer them with impunity while they scramble to find out what went wrong. if you are interested, TG me, see my Storefront (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=82246&start=40), or post your responce here.

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