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VISIT MEDIEVAL RP FAQ (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2089322#2089322)

Im Not Sure if this has Ever been Done before, or How many people will be Willing to take it up. It seems like A good RP though so i thought id suggest it.

You pick a Medeival Kingdom Any kingdom, not Just european, Could Be Great zimbabwe, Ghana, Inca, Seljuk..... Anything, Aslong as its not taken (or the land it existed on) That Should allow For Quite a few Players.
But in the Interests of the Game Im Leaving: England, Japan, Australia, Congo, Sudan,Romania, Hungary and Afghanistan. Unpopulated so whatever happens theres something to fight over not just trying to eliminate each others Armies

Only Play if you Know Abit about Medieval Warfare, as i dont want people Unknowingly Godmodding :)

Period- 1000-1300 AD :)

And offcourse theyll be Castles to make it much more interesting.

If you Wish to Play Sign Up Below

Kingdoms Taken:

Burgundy-The Volga
Byzantium- Sethesh
Chinese Kingdoms- Five Civilized Nations
Danish(Denmark & Norway)-Odenheim
Frankish- Verdicci
Holy Roman Empire- Zoogiedom
Ireland-Talaax
Korea- Elara
Mongol Horde-Pantera
Poland-Bruneau
Russian Principalities(European Russia)- Drizzts Army
Scottish-Unum Veritas
Venice- Aubreyad
Wales- Broadbands resurection

Dukedoms Taken:

Kartoffelburg Lord of Connacht (Ireland)

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Europe 1000AD (to help you decide)

i'll do it

Shogun Higo Jako-Japan

thankyou if thats how i sign up

I'm more future tech (space in fact) but I love the Middle ages. I not gonna check this every day thought so don't be suprised if i'm not on here. I choose Poland.

Japans Restricted (free Sector) How bout Chosun Koreans? there pretty Similar

I'll choose Russia.

Ill make a list of Kingdoms Taken :)

That would be a good idea

Ok heres how its gonna work.

We all start off with 2000 Men in our army (as was normal Back then), you decide how its arranged, if you want all horseman go all horseman, but beware the man with pikes :)

We get 3 Castles, Each Producing 75 new Men for the army Per day

Battles Must be fought on Threads Entitled " X VS Y Medieval RP" So everyone Knows whats Going on,you say how your Forces are arranged,If its Logical that you take losses, you take losses IE. X Sends a Cavalry Charge at Y left Flank, Archers, All archers Die Cavalry Takes X Losses

OR

X sends Cavalry charge at Y Front Pikemen all Cavalry die Ect

Keep Track of your own Forces and Lands (and one or two other people to make sure there not lieing). Any questions?

Sign ups will be excepted untill rp is full :) Game Starts Tommorow Or Friday Depending on the amount of signups

Can I take Ireland? Specifically the Dal Cais Clan headed by Brian Boru ( right time frame ). If not I'd like to be the Vikings.

Yes you Can Have Ye olde Ireland, Lucky you England Out of the Picture Otherwise ireland would be gone by 1200 :P

Sounds all right but the mix off troops is the best (too bad we couldn't be English they had billmen and longbowmen.) I do have a question are there any ships? also are the vikings included with this RP. It might make it too complicated but I thought I would ask. Also for people with no clue on how Europe looks you might want to post a map to make it go faster.

Only if we want to stick with historical accuracy. Anyway, 2000 man army to start with right?

i'll have wales for my real family honor

Oh ya Meant to Write Navies In, For people Who have coast offcourse, Vikings are Yes, But Only Controling Norway and Orkney for the sake of the game :) and i beleive LongBowmen Were welsh the english just stole them :P And yes 2000 men to Start off with, 50 warShips If your on the coast

I added a map As Requested :)

Well the Irish army as of now stands at:

800 Gallowglasses - Lightly armoured ( ie: only chainmail ) swordsmen with long two handed swords about 5 1/2 - 6 feet in length.

200 Archers - Small bows, small shields and only leather armour

200 Mounted Swordsmen - 3 1/2 foot broadswords, heavy chainmail and large shields

400 Pikemen - Self Explanitory

200 Irish Dartmen - Lightly armoured infantry armed with several javelins.

200 Irish Kerns - Medium armoured swordsmen with short swords

10 Barques - Ships, common for the period

20 Cogs - Larger ships, slightly less common

Noted down :), Keep Track of it, you get a 75 man Bonus Per day as it stands, only way to increase that is to capture a province of another nation (a castle)

50 warships

500 swords men on horses

200 pikemen

50 vikings

100 archers

100 catapalts

the wales army is set

We need A few more people to sign up really, Ideally about 10 weve got 5 lol.......

I'll take Norway and denmark during this time period they were one nation.

100 longships. (for transport

200 beserkirs.(Super Warriors- Trained all the time, didn't fear death hoped to become an einharjar, if they were missing their legs and arms they would still come at you.)

400 archers( they shoot arrows, leather armour)

1300 vikings.(Fierce hardened warriors, mostly veterans of some sort various armour, Prefer breaded axes, spears, and viking swords with runes on the sides)

100 Jarls.(Like an English Earl not quite noblity, mounted with a sword, Medium armour being chainmail, Jarls own the ships)

Yep Glad to see someone Who knows there history well, They Wernt one Kingdom they were one people, Bound by one Person, i think it Was Cnute and if it wasnt for the Restriction youd also own Northen England :)

Canute the Great, owned Denmark Norway and part of sweden, he did this effectively with his relatives controlling positions, and he used the christianity faith to his advantage. After he died the empire fell apart.
Some swedes had settled in "Rus" toward known as Russia, the Rus means Swede.

Byzantine Military

500 Catapracts- Heavily armoured Horsemen
300 Trezibond Archers- Famed for Good Aim, Light Leather Armour
1000 Swordsman- Medium Chain Mail Armour Medium Shield and Short Sword
200 Eddessa Pikeman- Chainmail Armour, Long Pike

30 Galleases
10 Cogs
10 Galleys

I knew the Modern Russian were of Vikings Decent but its never been Explained to me :p

g2g see ya tomarrow don't take over my land :D :lol: 8)

Doesnt Start Till Tommorow atleast, giving people some time to sign up :)

I'll join mark me down as the Franks (in this case the french if any of you guys ask)

Ok your marked Down :), Remember Guys theres a Hole World out there not just europe :) and in 1000 AD the Vikings were in Newfoundland (no You cant have that odenheim! have to get it of those Skrealings!)

Theres Evidence that Great Zimbabwe Traded with the Inca's aswell, and then theres the asian Kingdoms, everywere is Very Viable for settlement :)

Vikings didn't control Newfoundland, The Beothuk(Skaelingr) controlled it.

We should get a world map and colours assigned to players. We could have a real game here, kinda like risk but better.

Skrealings were the people the vikings got it off :P Either that or the Skrealings Were vikings originally :S lol

Im thinking ABout a Map but it might get abit Complicated then what do the rest of ya think?

The vikings only had a small settlement, and they didn't bring diseases because it was cold in their original climate, The Settlers weren't warriors.
and they only stayed there for about 5 years.
The Beothuk coloured themselves red with a dye, they were an aboriginal tribe on labardour.

How about the Roman empire? Can I have that or is it taken?

the romans changed over to the Byzantium Empire, and that is taken.

Romans were gone by this time, You can be the kingdom of Sicilly?

And the romans Didnt Change they split :P

Damn....

Well boys and girls since i do have command of 2000 troops id better let ya know what I have for troop displacement


1000 Pikemen
250 crossbowmen
250 Longbow men (stolen from the english during the 100 year war)
500 Heavy Calvery (The French knights)

Oh FYI just because ive told you what I have always be prepared for surpises :twisted:

Est Solomus Oth Mithas
Let the Red Eagle Banner fly over the battlements of our foe

100 year war was in the 1300s, what a smart guy.

Long Bowmen Are being Changed to Normal Archers, Hundred Year War Hadnt Started yet and England Is Blanked out of history :P only Welsh can have them unless you conquer a province of wales :P

China perhaps? Or will this RP not extend that far east?

someone needs to be Mongolian if we have the Chinese

Genghis Khan is going to kill around 12% of the world's population.

I'll sign up!
What civs are left??Byzantium has been taken :(

100 year war was in the 1300s, what a smart guy.I do hope that aint scarasim..... but anyways Mediveal History is kinda my thing since it does go along with a few games I play (Like Dungeons and Dragons and Warhammer) so i do have to know my troop typles formations (which works best for what kind of army) and their weapons and how to use them to my avandagtge

Finally An Easterner Yes it does, All the World, Europe map was just to give People an idea of what was going on :)

Be mongolian, and have your horse archers sweep accross asia and europe.

Long Bowmen Are being Changed to Normal Archers, Hundred Year War Hadnt Started yet and England Is Blanked out of history :P only Welsh can have them unless you conquer a province of wales :PSpoil Sport :evil:

Well I don't really know anything about the Mongols, but I can research some. I'll take that group I suppose.

We should just make this the sign up thread then have another roleplay thread.

Zoogiedom Any Country round in 1000AD except the Restricted ones, I suggest India, Inca or Berber

Unum Veritas (one truth??)

Mongolian horse archers were called Mangudai and I believe they were excellent at hit-and-run.

Sethesh:

Ok, thanks...I'll do some research tomorrow night.

So do I have Mongolia?

And yes, it means One Truth

Unum Veritas (one truth??)

Mongolian horse archers were called Mangudai and I believe they were excellent at hit-and-run.

Sethesh:

Ok, thanks...I'll do some research tomorrow night.Aye that they where m'lord they also where the first to introuduce bilogical warfare (The dreaded Black Plauge)by launching dead horses warriors and cattle into enclosed cities they where besieging

Wait wait wait, are the Celts taken yet? If not, then I'll have them instead.

Wait wait wait, are the Celts taken yet? If not, then I'll have them instead.Celts are a very good choice m'lord I have the celtic blood in me and it runs strong you (if you can have it) have picked a very good nation

You want to be macbeth? Thane of Scotland?

I love Celtic culture etc, but for some reason I'd forgotten about them until now.

Unum The Mongol Army Was Based around Light Cavalry and Horse Archers, Very Few or nil Infantry as They couldnt keep up with the horde.

The problem with ognol Structure was that it Got Smashed against western Army, too Heavy for the mongols to breach.

Zoog, The Countries might be GOne be gone by then and you might be left with Burgundy or something like that :P

I seem to have Started a new Era of Roleplay here i wasnt expecting it to be so popular :shock:

Hmm... they got all the way to hungary until Genghis Khan died.

Unum Veritas...if you're the Celts, I'll be Mongolia, maybe.

*yawn*

Oh, I might get left with Burgundy?

Ok then, I'll take Mongolia!

Edit:

Waiit...I'm a tiny 5 mil country in the Pacific, does this have anything to do with our Nation-states?

Hmm... they got all the way to hungary until Genghis Khan died.Yup I also belive the might of the tuteontic Knights and their allies helped turn them back as well( I aint sure though but hey who really knows?)

Then Subatai his Son Got Smashed Up against the Polish knights :P

If I can get the Celts, then you can have Mongolia.

Im putting Unum as Scots and Zoog as Mongol :)

Verdicci:

Thanks! You just reminded me of something.

I no longer wish to be Mongolia. Instead, the Teutons!! Ok, they were a religous order, not a nation, but I like them anyways. (Teutonic Knights)

Edit:

Okay Seseth, either Mongolia or Teutons are fine with me. You don't have to change it.

Yay, so I'm the Celts? Awesome... *off to do research*

We need someone to become mongolia, they rule!

Well, just let me know through Tgrams or something when the actual RP is beginning...that way the celts can come out and own you all! :wink:

Verdicci:

Thanks! You just reminded me of something.

I no longer wish to be Mongolia. Instead, the Teutons!! Ok, they were a religous order, not a nation, but I like them anyways. (Teutonic Knights)

Edit:

Okay Seseth, either Mongolia or Teutons are fine with me. You don't have to change it.Holy Roman Empire there for ya (sorry about the spelling i cant spell worth a hoot) As for anyone else if ya want to try yourself against me on the field just TM me and prepare for battle

For the sake of the game ill put you as the holy roman Empire They were basically the teutons, But the teutonic knights didnt really have land soam putting you as them ok

Ok.
Wow this forum is going fast.

For the sake of the game ill put you as the holy roman Empire They were basically the teutons, But the teutonic knights didnt really have land soam putting you as them okLol cool Hey Zoog ya got yourself a good group of people I wonder if emperor Barborossa will make a apperence :twisted:

:D Or Charlamagne. :) Or Henry the Lion.

Wait, he betrayed Barbarossa. : )

LOL :lol: Well either way I know im going to have fun but we will see when it comes time to wage open battle upon each other....... Have fun HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA :twisted:

hehehehehehe lol, Anyway, We seem to have a fair amount of people Now, Game will probably Start tommorow :), Doesnt have to just be War either, it can be Diplomacy and Trade (soldier trade, land trade ect)

Ok, Sethesh:

Does this have anything to do with our nation states? Because I'm a tiny new one out in the South Pacific, fairly good economy...but still, only 5 million for a population.

hehehehehehe lol, Anyway, We seem to have a fair amount of people Now, Game will probably Start tommorow :), Doesnt have to just be War either, it can be Diplomacy and Trade (soldier trade, land trade ect)Well like I said anyone who wanna deal with me TM me and we will deal or battle it out

Ok, I got a question: Are we assuming that all the countries are united under one king, and facing no internal competition from nobel lords?

I ask because I'd also like to be Irish. I'm not saying that I'd make trouble for whoever already picked it, but it makes sense for there to be several lords with enough power to field their own armies. I'd still technically be subservient to whomever choose to be the ruler of Ireland, but at least then I'd get to have my own troops and rp the nationality of my ancestors.

Verdicci...how do you TM people.

Anyway Assemble your forces 2000 men each 50 ships if youve got a coastline, No because this is such a new type of RP its nothing to do with the State set ups, no Rules Pertaining to the main Politics have been Created yet lol

We going to have a currency and set amountof profit so we can buy stuff with?

Verdicci...how do you TM people.How to TM 101 click on my name twice scroll down after viewing my nation there it says wanna write a telegram all ya have to do is type what ya want and hit send

Im gonna Have to make more Set ways for this game, If any of you have yahoo messenger Contact me on hawk_strike and you can help me sort it out :)

Maybe we should set a unit HP system, and different echnologies we can research, and prices (like Age of Empires)...so nobody gets too overly powerful and creates monsters or invincible men or anything...which would be godmodding anyways.

Well, here's Wikipedia:

Character of the Reich
The Holy Roman Empire is an institution unique in world history that is difficult to grasp. To understand what it was, it might be helpful to assess first what it was not.

* It was never a nation state. Despite the German ethnicity of most of its rulers and subjects, from the very beginning many ethnicities comprised the Holy Roman Empire. Many of its most important noble families and appointed officials came from outside the German-speaking communities. At the height of the empire it contained most of the territory of today's Germany, Austria, Slovenia, Switzerland, Belgium, the Netherlands, Luxembourg, the Czech Republic, as well as eastern France, northern Italy and western Poland. Its languages thus comprised not only German and its many dialects and derivatives, but many Slavic languages, and the languages which became modern French and Italian as well.

* However, during most of its time, it was more than a mere confederation. The concept of the Reich not only included the government of a specific territory, but had strong religious connotations (hence the holy prefix). Until 1508, the German Kings were not considered Emperors of the Reich until the Pope in Rome had formally crowned them as such.


So, does that count against me? I'm not a nation-state?

Sethesh, do you have AIM?

Ok, I got a question: Are we assuming that all the countries are united under one king, and facing no internal competition from nobel lords?

I ask because I'd also like to be Irish. I'm not saying that I'd make trouble for whoever already picked it, but it makes sense for there to be several lords with enough power to field their own armies. I'd still technically be subservient to whomever choose to be the ruler of Ireland, but at least then I'd get to have my own troops and rp the nationality of my ancestors.

YOud Have to Speak to the King of Ireland About him Appointing you if you want that :) Would make the RP much more interesting

Dont make this RP to Complicated, We want it About the Same Level as Modern, WW2 and Future RP's The problem is ths is the first of its kind and how we organise this one might set the rest of them (if there is any others)

Ok.
Well I'm going to get some shut-eye everyone. Where I live it's near midnight already and I have school tomorrow (high school 7:15-2:00)

TM me if you want to talk about diplomacy or anything like that...

G'night

I haven't participated much in conflicts or world interaction before.

I just hope everyone knows what they own before they go off trying to invade themselves or Invading someone 100 miles away :P

Ok, I got a question: Are we assuming that all the countries are united under one king, and facing no internal competition from nobel lords?

I ask because I'd also like to be Irish. I'm not saying that I'd make trouble for whoever already picked it, but it makes sense for there to be several lords with enough power to field their own armies. I'd still technically be subservient to whomever choose to be the ruler of Ireland, but at least then I'd get to have my own troops and rp the nationality of my ancestors.

YOud Have to Speak to the King of Ireland About him Appointing you if you want that :) Would make the RP much more interesting

OOC: Interesting concept. Ok, well, since this IS technically an rp...

IC: Sir Joseph jogged down the road toward the unknown towns pitiful looking stables, cursing his foul luck. He had ridden his horse too hard, and had paid for it by losing it to a broken leg. Not that it could be helped. King Talaax needed to recieve the ugent message Joseph carried in his breast pocket. Sent by Lord Kartoffeburg, ruler of the Connacht tribes, had just recently seized power and raised a conscripted peasant army. Although he couldn't actually read the note, from what Joseph has heard Lord Kartoffelburg was going to demand recognition as a military power from King Talaax, although he did not seem intersted in breaking off and establishing his own kingdom. One thing was certain though, if Joseph didnt find a new horse soon someone was going to have his head...

Sethesh: one more thing before I leave...what do I own? I know for sure I have knights, mostly not mounted, and cavalry. Any siege (onagers, scorpions, trebuchets, gunpowder units) or archery to speak of?

And what kind of units are we allowed?

Lol, I like it :P That Can be Yours and Talaax is little RP till this main one starts, internal Grumblings will make this much more interesting

Zoogie, Units which Conspire with your nation are a best bet :P lol

Teutonic knights
Long Swordsman
Foot Knights
Feudal Seargeants Ect

OK!
:D

bye for now.

Kartoffelburg, if you get your Dukedom ill List you in a Seperate Section,

Taken Dukedoms

Kartoffelburg Lord of Connacht (ireland)

i think Connacht is in West of ireland :P

Kartoffelburg, if you get your Dukedom ill List you in a Seperate Section,

Taken Dukedoms

Kartoffelburg Lord of Connacht (ireland)

i think Connacht is in West of ireland :P

hmm...I thought it was in north eastern Irland, but I dont know. Good thing to check though!

Nope North West, Definetly Leinster is east

Im sorry but my computer was taking over,so was have been happeining?

Weve had lotsa new Signups and The Medieval RP system has been Developed abit, This is the first one of its kind from what i can tell

Thats nice

the Games Prolly gonna Start Tommorow Evening :) I Might need to do a map so everyone knows were the land is i dont know :S

I dont think theres a need because modern Maps Correlate pretty much with old ones, Just Do territory captures by City :)

i'll be there,see ya

Ok Bye :)

Room for one more?

Possibly Swiss? The Swiss League didn't come about for another 200? years or so, but the Cantons were already giving the Emporer fits around 1100. Plus Swiss Pikemen will decimate any of your piddling cavalry charges.

If not Swiss, maybe Castile/Spanish? I would have to reconquista but it'll be fun stuff. Anyone care to take the Almoravid/Almohads in southern Iberia and northwestern africa?

Also, a good medieval map we could use is the one from Medieval: Total War. Capture the province, you know? For example, England is divided into Wessex, Mercia, Wales, etc. It would east things. I'll see if I can find a link...

Yay, Another developer, Yes You can be Swiss, Navarre or Castille Are Good choices Aswell because of there location. ve actually got Total war, Just not on this PC, YOur Division is a good idea aswell, Some people want to be Lords, Like Kartoffelburg Whos Bidding for Lord of Cannacht in ireland before the RP starts :)

I'll stick with Spanish, only for the possibilities of Crusades, and driving the infidels from MY peninsula. I'll keep looking for the map.

Which Spanish there Were 3 Castille, Aragon and Navarre

Good, I was About to say if you went swiss youd end up Surrounded by the Holy Roman Empire Anyway :P

I think ive found something to do the maps on :)

Thinking Castile, but unification shouldn't be a terribly huge problem, as they all fought the muslims together. All one of them lacked was a silver tongue to persuade them to inter-marry, and live under a duel regency until the heir came of age. Simple, effective, and if I remember correctly, and I probably don't, that's what finally gave them the strength to accomplish the reconquista.

Never paid much attention to Spanish history, really. I shoulda stuck with the Tatars, and bothered whoever is playing Rus. :twisted: And late in the RP have the Outrageously Kickass armies of the Khan come in so I could sweep you before me.... Oh...

Lol Actually the RP includes all of the world the europe map was so people who wanted to play europe new what was going on, Someones playing rus and someones playing polish aswell if you want to bother them .... and am byzantine so you can bother all three of us (after ive crossed the balkans) hehehe

But Decide Soon so i can put you on the list :)

haha, yeah. I'll change to the Mongols if we're playing 'World'. I'll stick close to the RL story, but give it a bit of a push for simplicity's sake.

Eastern Europe: YOUR ASS IS MINE.

I'll be Navarre or Aragon or Castille if any of them are available

Not Byzantines, you could never get past the Heavy Catapracts and You stopped at the polish because they also were heavy Cavalry :P, We really need to fill up the eastern theatre abit more, So far its you, and russians if you consider them eastern (back then they were just the european part and didnt have a coastline)

Volga there all available :) Ill put you Down as Castille :)

No actually put me down as Burgundy

Ok Burgundy :)

Theres only the spanish Kingdoms left in western europe now :P

Have you two read the first couple of posts? cos it explains how this RP is gonna be played out (theres also Trade, Land swaps and Alliances offcourse)

500 Crossbowmen (with pavisses if need be)
1000 Men-at-arms (mounted or on foot, as it was like during that period)
100 Hobilars (light cavalry armed with spears)
400 Armoured Pikemen (could these be Swiss mercenaries?)

Only Holy Roman Empire Gets Swiss Mercenaries, I get Eddessa Pikemen and Trezibond Archers becuase of My Location, YOu just need to know your territories to take advantage of them in full, Burgundy had Excellent Crossbowmen (infact your the only person who has them in this period)

Oh yeah ships.

50 Caravels

Only Holy Roman Empire Gets Swiss Mercenaries, I get Eddessa Pikemen and Trezibond Archers becuase of My Location, YOu just need to know your territories to take advantage of them in full, Burgundy had Excellent Crossbowmen (infact your the only person who has them in this period)what about the Genoese crossbowmen? So can I have 400 Armoured Pikemen or are they banned for me? They needn't be Swiss

you can have amroured Pikeman there just not swiss :P and therefore are weaker :)

If you look at the map Burgundy is pretty damn close to Switzerland. In fact Modern Switzerland is inside this Burgundy, I believe

Urrg Fine you Win you get your Swiss Pikeman, And your Geneosian CrossBowmen :P

Urrg Fine you Win you get your Swiss Pikeman, And your Geneosian CrossBowmen :Phurrah!
So make that:
500 Genoese Crossbowmen
1000 Men-at-arms (mounted or on foot, as the situation permits)
100 Hobilars (light cavalry armed with spears)
400 Swiss Pikemen
50 Caravels
With my capital and castle at Lyon

Only Holy Roman Empire Gets Swiss Mercenaries, I get Eddessa Pikemen and Trezibond Archers becuase of My Location, YOu just need to know your territories to take advantage of them in full, Burgundy had Excellent Crossbowmen (infact your the only person who has them in this period)

I was under the impression that crossbows were widespread in use by 1100... So much so that the Pope made a proclamation banning their use, though noone listened, as usual.

And Mongol Cav would be more than a match for Cataphracts. Byzantine Cavalry was heavily armored, and devastating in a full on charge, but that's the beauty of Mongol heavy/light Horse. They would just run away and shoot you full of arrows, and then counter charge into the disarray. :) Mongols stopped in Poland only after destroying any hope of Polish victory at the battle of Liegnitz in 1241. They turned back soon after because Khan Ogodei had died, and custom demanded the leader of the European thrust, Jochi(?), who was son of the Khan return for the choosing. Subotai remained in Khazaar awhile, pillaging and plundering before he too returned to Asia. Heavy cavalry had little to nothing to do with it, from what I've learned.

Catapracts didnt Die of Arrows, Its Virtually Unheard of Untill the Seljuk Turks (Manzikert) with there Damed Arrow Designs! lol

Crossbows didnt Take off untill later, when it was discovered that almost anyone could use them...... then they were finally outlawed :)

We need more Continentals, Africans and Americans a Chinese or Persian Would be cool aswell for this rp :)

When are we going to start this?

Catapracts didnt Die of Arrows, Its Virtually Unheard of Untill the Seljuk Turks (Manzikert) with there Damed Arrow Designs! lol

I guess I'll have to use brilliant tactics then. :) Rich and powerful as Byzantium was, did they not rely more heavily on Mercenery armies than regular soldiers, aside from their Byzantine Heavy infantry and Cataphracts of course, who were the steel glove covering the softer, less disciplined merc's of the van?

Catapracts didnt Die of Arrows, Its Virtually Unheard of Untill the Seljuk Turks (Manzikert) with there Damed Arrow Designs! lol

I guess I'll have to use brilliant tactics then. :) Rich and powerful as Byzantium was, did they not rely more heavily on Mercenery armies than regular soldiers, aside from their Byzantine Heavy infantry and Cataphracts of course, who were the steel glove covering the softer, less disciplined merc's of the van?Brilliant tactics! Give them a line of armoured pikemen to charge into, with archers and men-at-arms on the flanks

Probably gonna Start in About 12 Hours, YOull know Because my Forces Will have mobalised against a desolate region or nearby Kingdom :P

Hes Mongol they didnt have much Infantry, it couldnt keep up :p

Yes it was a Heavy Mercenary Army, But thats why there loyal.... we can always pay them more :)......... About half of the military was regular

Perhaps we should ally, and push across through Southern Europe, creating a north Mediterranean Empire. If I can ally with the Franks then this will be an easy proposition.

Catapracts didnt Die of Arrows, Its Virtually Unheard of Untill the Seljuk Turks (Manzikert) with there Damed Arrow Designs! lol

I guess I'll have to use brilliant tactics then. :) Rich and powerful as Byzantium was, did they not rely more heavily on Mercenery armies than regular soldiers, aside from their Byzantine Heavy infantry and Cataphracts of course, who were the steel glove covering the softer, less disciplined merc's of the van?Brilliant tactics! Give them a line of armoured pikemen to charge into, with archers and men-at-arms on the flanks

Rather Russian spears that I've whipped into my service. Mongols relied minimally on spears and foot archers. Rather they would form a soft middle and march, engaging for awhile, feigning flight, and the rest is history as the Europeans, who by comparison were very undisciplined, would break rank to finish the rout, and would be in turn flanked by the lightning fast Mongol cavalry. Simple and brutally effective against EVERY single european army they came up against. Unwashed horselords and savages they were, but thier cavalry tactics by far surpassed any europeans of the time.

It makes sense, But the Frank, if im right wont Budge, lol

A saracen would really make my day or an Almohad :)

That is True, The Byzantines had the Advantage of Being on both sides, Byzantine Horse Archers were Famously Light, i didnt include them in my initial army though, Ill be paying more attention to light cavalry in my development

Depends on which Byzzies he's using. :) In this time span both were used, as well as several other styles of army. Very turbulent time for the Byzzies, 1000-1300.

Aubreyad

We got a Seljuk player yet? I'll lay odds I can take Constantinople well before he does, or the historical (final? been awhile) fall in 1453. :)

Stop Threatening me, I currently have the best Cavalry in Europe at my Disposal :) ....................... we do need a Seljuk or Saracen Though just for me to Toy with, Were not following history here were playing it EG just because the Irish Didnt invade spain doesnt mean they wont in this :P

Catapracts didnt Die of Arrows, Its Virtually Unheard of Untill the Seljuk Turks (Manzikert) with there Damed Arrow Designs! lol

I guess I'll have to use brilliant tactics then. :) Rich and powerful as Byzantium was, did they not rely more heavily on Mercenery armies than regular soldiers, aside from their Byzantine Heavy infantry and Cataphracts of course, who were the steel glove covering the softer, less disciplined merc's of the van?Brilliant tactics! Give them a line of armoured pikemen to charge into, with archers and men-at-arms on the flanks

Rather Russian spears that I've whipped into my service. Mongols relied minimally on spears and foot archers. Rather they would form a soft middle and march, engaging for awhile, feigning flight, and the rest is history as the Europeans, who by comparison were very undisciplined, would break rank to finish the rout, and would be in turn flanked by the lightning fast Mongol cavalry. Simple and brutally effective against EVERY single european army they came up against. Unwashed horselords and savages they were, but thier cavalry tactics by far surpassed any europeans of the time.Thats because the Europeans of the time were surpassed in most respects by basically everyone else. Strength of numbers served the Europeans well. If I can get the Frank to ally with me then Europe is ours. The Holy Roman Empire will collapse under the strength of the armies, and then Eastern Europe cannot last long under the onslaught of two large armies, unless they make some sort of counter-alliance. Or Byzantium comes into the fray, moving up through the Balkans while guarding the rear against the Mongols.

The Byzantine foot armies as well as the Catraphacts were generally well disciplined, so the retreat tactic might not work as well against the clever generals at the Byzantines disposal. What really killed the Byzantines was political infighting.

Any areas untaken? Id like to get involved somehow. I LOVE history and have studied it for quite some time now , Id love to have a peice of land and maybe even build a small trade based nation. :D

That and those *^*&$ Seljuks :P

Any areas untaken? Id like to get involved somehow. I LOVE history and have studied it for quite some time now , Id love to have a peice of land and maybe even build a small trade based nation. :DBe the Saracens, Seljuks or Almohads (or are the Almohads Seljuks/Saracens?)

Theres a List of Currently Occupied Nations on the First post of this thread..... .You can be Anybody in the World, Some nations have been Left free Deliberatly and there listed in the first post aswell

And if you Dont find a Nation you want, Apply for a Dukedom in one of the Kingodoms :)

That and those *^*&$ Seljuks :PNo, the political infighting spread to the army, led to the destruction of competent army leadership, led to the degredation of the skill of the army, and so led to Seljuk victories.

Take the Turks or mebbe the Kingdom of Khazar, a very rich, Jewish Kingdom that traded all over the black and mediterranean seas. I believe they fell from grace before we start, but I don't think it would hurt to bend history a bit.

Hmm unsure , too bad the Spartans were long gone at this time. And also too bad no more german area is up (my ancestry).

Oh my god , Ive got it , what about Egypt? Is it currently taken?

That and those *^*&$ Seljuks :PNo, the political infighting spread to the army, led to the destruction of competent army leadership, led to the degredation of the skill of the army, and so led to Seljuk victories.

I'm hoping you keep at least to this much historical accuracy, Sethesh. They don't say 'Byzantine Intrigues' for nothing. It was born and bred into them.

Take the Turks or mebbe the Kingdom of Khazar, a very rich, Jewish Kingdom that traded all over the black and mediterranean seas. I believe they fell from grace before we start, but I don't think it would hurt to bend history a bit.1016 the kingdom ended (just looked up) after Russians and Byzantines teamed up. They were not really traders, more warlike. I suspect it is after them Khazakstan is named.

Im fine with Khazar I beleive it was Between The Black and Baltic Seas, Either that or in the Crimean Region :)

Ive started a Brand New type of RP here People, Lets try and make this one the best 8)

The site i got my info from might be a tad dodgy http://www.orange-street-church.org/text/khazar.htm read to the end

Egypt is Saracen you would rule the Entire middle East other then the Byzantines After Egypt Then there was the almohads who also Ruled Southern Spain :)

I want some Mezo American Peoples Really Inca and Mayan, Just to Spice the game up abit :)

Take the Turks or mebbe the Kingdom of Khazar, a very rich, Jewish Kingdom that traded all over the black and mediterranean seas. I believe they fell from grace before we start, but I don't think it would hurt to bend history a bit.1016 the kingdom ended (just looked up) after Russians and Byzantines teamed up. They were not really traders, more warlike. I suspect it is after them Khazakstan is named.

Really? I was under the impression that they were a major trading power, so much so that the Byzantine princes took the initiative to end the competition. I know they were pagan but converted to Judaism so the Crusaders and moslems would leave them alone. Jewish=Neutral, I guess. But like I said it's been a long time since I read about it.

The Khazar capital was near modern Astrakhan. The empire streched from north of the caspian sea, to around the Crimea

Yep thats what Happened to my Knowledge, They Were the Gateway to the East just asmuch As the Byzantines were :)

http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/source/khazars1.html for good Khazar info

Anyway Elara Decide on a Nation and Ill Give ya it :) Read the First couple of Posts so you know how the RP's Gonna Work :)

Hmm tough choice I almost want to pick a little island...you know a ways away from the mongol hordes which will most likely come sweeping through. :)

Though my love of Egypt might sway me. Id love to bring Egypt back as a mighty Empire as well as a trader in some of the finest of items. Id have to study up on the time period though.

http://www.khazaria.com/ for better, although perhaps biased, Khazar info

Saracens You ruled from the Edge of Egypt to the West of iran Wit your Capital at Bagdhad :)

A very advanced empire, Enough so to contend with all crusaders and still win :P

Is the Angevin Empire taken? Gotta love Henry II & Eleanor. . .

Aubreyad

Take Korea, Elara. I'll conquer you and use you as auxilliaries to take China while I look to the rich pastures of Europe. Mauauhhaahahahaha... Oh. I gotta contain myself...

I dont know anything of that Empire :S lol if your Talking about England though its a Free Sector and Cant be Settled (i put free areas in so that theres something to fight over were Areas Fully Populated)

Is the Angevin Empire taken? Gotta love Henry II & Eleanor. . .

AubreyadThe Franks are taken. I want to ally with them tho the leader is offlline

Im liking the Saracens quite alot , though Panteras challenge does intrigue me. :twisted:

D'oh! And I see the Scots are taken. . .

Is there anyone interesting in India in this period? Bit early for the Mughals I think.

Decide Soon So i can put you on the List :)

I'm an idiot. Gimme Venice.

Northern India Was VERY ignited back then, the Tamil, mughals other indian Factions Fighting it out ............... Very good Place to be if you ask me

I'm an idiot. Gimme Venice.Venice, eh? How about an alliance. We can cut the Italian part of the Holy Roman Empire into two, and split it. If I can convince the Franks to join me, then there can be no doubt about our domination of Europe.

Conquered by the Holy roman Empire

Be Bulgaria. Stop any Byzantine advance into Eastern Europe and the Balkans

LOL, I control Alot of the mediteranean Anyway, Ill Just scoot Round and Invade Geonosia From sea :P

Who was conquered by the HRE?

I'll take Parma-east, you get northern Po valley w/ Milan. Sound fair?

Venice wasnt German actually. It wasn't big, but it also wasn't controlled by the Empire. http://www.euratlas.com/big/big1000.htm you can see Venice is separate.

The papal states? lol you can be the pope if you want but that puts you in a VERY vulnerable Position

The Most Serene Republic lasted till Napoleon shut it down in 1798 or 99. And she was big enough to sack Constantinople in 1204. ;)

Not that we don't want to be friends with the Byzantines.

Would you two please Decide on a country please :) lol, Im Guessing elara is Going to be Saracen?

Saracen , Korean or Corsican. Im still deciding. :D

Corsican Is The Kingdom of Sicilly :)

The Most Serene Republic of Venice for me. Othello can lead my armies. :)

Or is someone else undecided still?

Venice has been Conquered........ but fine....... the holy roman Empire will just have to wait to get you lol

(If Japan was up Id be Japan , Ive always loved Japanese history and culture.)


Hmmm this is a toughy.

I thought about Japan, but I know so little about them in this period I decided against it. I'm more of a European historian.

Aubreyad your now listed as the Leader of venice :)

Venice has been Conquered........ but fine....... the holy roman Empire will just have to wait to get you lolVenice HADNT been conquered. Thats just what Medievel: Total War said for the sake of simplicity.

Elara I recommend Sicily, because you get that and Corsica too. Perhaps there is an option for building ships instead of men?

No :P lol, She can have a ship building bonus though,

And Venice Practically Had been Conquered, It was Part of the Lombard league and Got Crushed, It Regained Political Strenght 50 Years Later with the Crusades........ Anyway i said you could have it :P lol

As Sicily would I get Sicily , Corsica and Sardinia? If so that would definately rank highly on my list.

I dont think Ill do Saracens though. I love Egypt but I think Ill go Korea or Sicily. Youll have my answer soon.

Ok I have to go offline soon. Venice do you want to ally? Please decide.

RP hasnt even Started yet and your making Alliances? lol, Anyway i do suggest Korea, There a naval power aswell, and will probably be the only one in the east, Japan is ripe for the taking

RP hasnt even Started yet and your making Alliances? lol, Anyway i do suggest Korea, There a naval power aswell, and will probably be the only one in the east, Japan is ripe for the takingbetter soon than late

Yeah, if you agree with the proposed division of northern Italy.

Who was conquered by the HRE?

I'll take Parma-east, you get northern Po valley w/ Milan. Sound fair?That is acceptable

Oh well, You guys pass the papal States and ill rip you in two :) lol

Sethesh , if I chose Korea , then took Japan , then Japanese Rebels made a coup and took over could I then call myself Japan? :lol:

(If not Ill understand and itll still be hella fun for me.)


Also is there ANY small german power untaken around?

Sethesh , if I chose Korea , then took Japan , then Japanese Rebels made a coup and took over could I then call myself Japan? :lol:

(If not Ill understand and itll still be hella fun for me.)hurry up and choose
Oh well, You guys pass the papal States and ill rip you in two :) lolyou're dreaming

Im going offline now. I have ONE ally. Hopefully the French will join us in our splitting of the Holy Roman Empire

No youll still be Korea :P lol

Lol am not dreaming my Military Far Out specs yours anyway, Im just too far away to want to do anything about it :), After the Papal States Its Byz land :P

Elara ill Put you Down as Korea If you dont Decide soon :P lol

I edited my post above to say: "Are there ANY small German powers untaken?" Just incase you didnt see.

Im going to go with Korea though I guess. Too much competition in Europe. In asia all I have to worry about is the dang Mongol Hordes. Or what if Korea and the Mogols allied? Look out world! Anyway I plan to build Korea up into a nice little absolute power monarchy nation , just gotta do alot of studying on ancient Korea and their military. (If anyone knows a good site for this please do post a link.)

Are we picking any specific year between 1000-1300? Just wondering so I can find the correct names for RPing.

Ok im putting you down as Korea :)

Were starting at 1000AD, Ill Keep Ticking the Years Down as the RP goes on :)

Got it, cool.

Elara Your down as the Korean Leader :)

Can you repost your army? And then people can see wether or not it is better than:
1000 Men-at-arms
500 Genoese Crossbowmen
400 Swiss Pikemen
100 Hobilars (light cavalry)

I thought you were going.... oh well

Byzantine Military

700 Catapracts- Heavily armoured Horsemen
300 Trezibond Archers- Famed for Good Aim, Light Leather Armour
800 Capadocian Infantry- Medium Chain Mail Armour, Medium Shield and Short Sword
200 Eddessa Pikeman- Chainmail Armour, Long Pike

30 Galleases
10 cogs
10 Galleys

I'll post up my initial army, I guess.

1000 Mongol Light Cavalry and attending mounts (3-4/man)
500 Mongol Heavy Cavalry (less horse archer, more of a charger though they did carry composite bows)
300 Assorted Chinese Ligh Pike and Spearmen
100 Chinese Heavy Foot soldiers
100 Assorted Foot Archers/Crossbowmen (Chinese had been using the Crossbow since 50-150(?)AD, Romance of the three Kingdoms and whatnot)

I know I haven't taken China yet, but with merceneries and the people of the northern Gobi, it's not much of a stretch.

I can tell that if We meet on the Field theres gonna be hell to pay for both sides :S lol

And they Wernt Crossbows they were a Form Of Arbalest i think it was called a Chu-ku-nu lol

Any Turks left?

Yes, Were Trying to Get someone to Go Almohad (berber/ moorish) Turks Interfere Way to much with me to be happy, but if you wish :)

Theres Saracens Aswell If you prefere

I think one person being Turks and we will have enough to start the game.

I agree, Turks and then we can proceed.

And with that I'm off. Have a good day all.

Only two asian powers? *snickers* with all of Asia at my disposal, the vast pool of manpower that is china, and my own savage Mongol Horse, you are all but dust beneath my feet.

A little food for thought for you Pansie Christians out there: "I am the Wrath of God. Had you all not sinned so much, the Lord would not have sent me to punish you." Supposedly the message Khan Ogodei dispatched ahead of his armies, in order to spread fear and panic among the heavily Catholic and Orthodox peoples of Eastern Europe.

Nice to be Pagan, isn't it? If nothing else, the church can't execute you as a heretic. :roll:

Only two asian powers? *snickers* with all of Asia at my disposal, the vast pool of manpower that is china, and my own savage Mongol Horse, you are all but dust beneath my feet.

A little food for thought for you Pansie Christians out there: "I am the Wrath of God. Had you all not sinned so much, the Lord would not have sent me to punish you." Supposedly the message Khan Ogodei dispatched ahead of his armies, in order to spread fear and panic among the heavily Catholic and Orthodox peoples of Eastern Europe.

Nice to be Pagan, isn't it? If nothing else, the church can't execute you as a heretic. :roll:What if Korea fights you in China?

What if Korea fights you in China?

Read your history. Koryo Kingdom fell fairly easily to the Horde(2 year conquest I believe? Considering the heavily populated Korean peninsula, this is pretty fast.), and this shouldn't be too much of a problem seeing as I ownz Elara anyway. ;) Seriously though, Korean foot soldiers weren't anything to laugh about, but lack of speed against the Mongols=DEFEAT.

I'm sure if anything, Korea will tie up with the attempted conquest of Japan, which will be more of a problem than conquering the vastness of China, because at the time, Japan was VERY densely populated, and more or less united behind the Hojo Shoguns. An 25,000 man army wasn't considered spare change in Japan, though many 'minor' Daimyo could raise as many or more, but that would have been GARGANTUAN compared to most standing armies of Europe and Asia.

If nothing else we'll strike a bargain, because me and Elara think alike anyway, Korean foot and Mongol Cav together will be good enough for me.

I presume then you march across Asia, conquering EVERYTHING. Then you simply march into Russia, they retreat into castles, you use advanced Mongol siege technology (they were ahead of Europe with their Siege Weaponry) to break down walls, Russia is yours. Europe essentially cannot stand before you unless Russia, Byzantium and the Seljuks stop you.

I presume then you march across Asia, conquering EVERYTHING. Then you simply march into Russia, they retreat into castles, you use advanced Mongol siege technology (they were ahead of Europe with their Siege Weaponry) to break down walls, Russia is yours. Europe essentially cannot stand before you unless Russia, Byzantium and the Seljuks stop you.

Mongol siege equipment was all but non-existant before the conquest of China and the recruitment of thier engineers

I may decide to keep back and build a bit, turn my army into a true 'Horde'. There are so many players in Europe the battles will get wooly pretty quickly, and sooner or later...

*shrugs* Tactics tactics tactics. So many. I could pass Russia all together, and go through Khazaar, and loot and plunder Hungary. Or I could just loop around the Black Sea and take the Seljuks in the rear, but then this would leave the Byzantines with a free hand. Tactics Tactics Tactics. I need another map...

Too large a frontier, eh? What if the Seljuks and Byzantines ally (unlikely, but you never know)? They can easily stop you, unless you command your horde extremely well. Although it is true your soldiers are higher in quality to those of the western Europeans, the Byzantines and Turks are much more disciplined, and with Cataphracts able to possibly hold you heavy cavalry off. Do you think you can manage them both?

Too large a frontier, eh? What if the Seljuks and Byzantines ally (unlikely, but you never know)? They can easily stop you, unless you command your horde extremely well. Although it is true your soldiers are higher in quality to those of the western Europeans, the Byzantines and Turks are much more disciplined, and with Cataphracts able to possibly hold you heavy cavalry off. Do you think you can manage them both?

Once more we're forgetting so many other factors. Holy Roman expansion into Greece and Hungary could seriously curtail any Byzantine attempts at maintaining against the Turks and saracens to the south. Poland as well is close enough to threaten the Byzantines. Again, a Seljuk/Byz alliance is unlikely, but a large conflict is inevitable. No expansion east for the Byz, or to the west for the Turks. Russian incursion into Byzantine lands is unlikely, but very possible if the Danes, Finns, and notoriously unruly Luthuanians are dealt with and eastern pagans are kept in hand. Then there is the question of good ole Poper and his infamous call to crusade. If the Crusader Kings decide to tramp through Constantinople on thier way to the Holy Lands, you can be sure it'll play heavily into the balance of power in the middle east and Balkans.

Like I said, too many factors to think about right now. I'll have to play it as it comes, but barring an insane catastrophe with Korea or Japan, I'll be a mighty force to be reckoned with when the time comes to poke your knights and graze my herds upon the soft lands of Europe.

Too large a frontier, eh? What if the Seljuks and Byzantines ally (unlikely, but you never know)? They can easily stop you, unless you command your horde extremely well. Although it is true your soldiers are higher in quality to those of the western Europeans, the Byzantines and Turks are much more disciplined, and with Cataphracts able to possibly hold you heavy cavalry off. Do you think you can manage them both?

Once more we're forgetting so many other factors. Holy Roman expansion into Greece and Hungary could seriously curtail any Byzantine attempts at maintaining against the Turks and saracens to the south. Poland as well is close enough to threaten the Byzantines. Again, a Seljuk/Byz alliance is unlikely, but a large conflict is inevitable. No expansion east for the Byz, or to the west for the Turks. Russian incursion into Byzantine lands is unlikely, but very possible if the Danes, Finns, and notoriously unruly Luthuanians are dealt with and eastern pagans are kept in hand. Then there is the question of good ole Poper and his infamous call to crusade. If the Crusader Kings decide to tramp through Constantinople on thier way to the Holy Lands, you can be sure it'll play heavily into the balance of power in the middle east and Balkans.

Like I said, too many factors to think about right now. I'll have to play it as it comes, but barring an insane catastrophe with Korea or Japan, I'll be a mighty force to be reckoned with when the time comes to poke your knights and graze my herds upon the soft lands of Europe.Lets just say the Holy Roman Empire wont be doing that much in the way of expansion :wink:
I doubt Poland will be able to risk coming south, with Russia to the east and HRE to the west. It seems fated to be destroyed.
Ok im going offline now. Goodbye for now.

50 warships

500 swords men on horses

200 pikemen

50 vikings

100 archers

100 catapalts

the wales army is set

i'm back on but i have to go

alexender- general of wales

Dont add to your military yet, Hasnt Been one Day even, and Anyway adding 25 Ships is impossible

20 men = 1 ship

Firstly Te Holy Roman Empire Will not Expand into Greece Early enough for it too have an Effect in my Oppinnion. Burgundy and Venice are allready planning to Expel it from italy, and then theres the strong Danes to the north, The Polish to the East and the French to the West.

The HRE will probably be enthralled in those Problems before it even Thinks about Crossing the balkans.

Secondly we NEED more Asian Nations, Afghanistan, China or Khazar Would make Good Additions.

An Almohad Is Preferable to a turk because the iberian Penisula Is at current a Desolate Lump of Rock

Im Gonna Write a Quick FAQ thread on this New Type of RP as it needs Several Jugglings to Work. :?

Anyway I hope you Guys Enjoy it when it Starts Later on ...... .YOu all seem Highly Immersed in the history and Politics of the time so hopefully it will turn into a Fun Realistic RP :)

I have no problem with there being a Duke of Connacht. As long as they remember that at the time this RP starts at Brian Boru is the King of all Ireland and is the character I intend to play. As long as your relatively subservient and unite your army with mine in times of need, I won't crush you... :twisted: I'll RP more when I get home from school.

Ittll Probably Start around the Time You get back

I just finished Writing the FAQ for this Medieval RP FAQ (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2089322#2089322) It should stop Any Questions about how its gonna be played out :)

Can I join? If yes, I would like to be Sweden or China...

China, Sweden i think is Too close to the Danish Field ( really Painfull for whoevers close to the Raiding nation) we need the Asian Continent abit more populated aswell :)

Hurray, I get to be the world's most advanced civilization... (at the time of course... :wink:

Yep but Just Wait for the Mongol Onslaught, THat guys got so much Planned.

Whatever... The Chinese are going to slaughter the Mongol pigs... :wink:

Id say it Depends, Ive got a Feeling you might take enough losses for him to Declare a Lopsided Victory, Depends how yyou arrange your initial Forces aswell, Korea is too your north occupied Aswell

Anyway, Your now listed as the Leader of The Chinese Kingdoms (they were 4 or 5 nations Back then that united when Required)

Oh yeah, China has invented gunpowder by now, so I can make fireworks and bombs... :twisted:

And isn't China united under the Song Dynasty?

Gunpowder is ineffective in combat until around the 15th centurary

Thats why you have a super awesome repeating crossbow.

Yup... Supposedly invented by Zhuge Liang during the Three Kingdoms period...

Ireland is all ready to go. Should we start new threads for combat/diplomacy and such?

wales ready to battle

alexander-general of wales

Message from High King Brian Boru to the Scot and Welsh Leaders
I suggest that we Celtic peoples, the Irish, the Welsh and the Scots form an alliance. There have been tales of strange men from the Norselands raiding the English coastline. It would be highly beneficial for us to unite against this threat.

I would also suggest that we split up the English lands equally among ourselves. This would give us more land to retreat into and more resources to use against our common enemies. I await your responses expectantly.

OOC: You know, if anyone bothered reading all the posts, they'd know that if the country they wanted was already picked the could just become a Duke. Also, I'm sorry Talaax, I know you said the name of the Irish king but I'm too dumb to keep using it, so I'm just going to refer to you as "King Talaax".

IC: Mi'lord, I've ordered my men to begin loading boats with supplies in anticipation of an invasion of England. They await your orders. I am prepared to send 100 of my finest troops, as well as supplying the boats for the journey. I suggest we strike quickly and secure the best lands for ourselves.

OOC: I'm going to be gone for most of the night, so Talaax has control of all my stuff until I return.

We're going to create a new Diplomacy/war/trade thread, Because battles are going to be quite awkward under this? because i can imagine they might play out quite long as they did back then :?

Message from High King Brian Boru to the Scot and Welsh Leaders
I suggest that we Celtic peoples, the Irish, the Welsh and the Scots form an alliance. There have been tales of strange men from the Norselands raiding the English coastline. It would be highly beneficial for us to unite against this threat.

I would also suggest that we split up the English lands equally among ourselves. This would give us more land to retreat into and more resources to use against our common enemies. I await your responses expectantly.

Agreed....the Scottish celts are with ya.

ooc: The Norse settlements in Ireland(which is bascially everything) would go against such a move considering the offical language of Ireland is norse at the time and remains so until 1200, How did Ireland become so powerful, I think we should eliminate Ireland from having any central authority, like england, kick him out of the game.

The Norse were basically defeated and kicked out of Ireland in 1014 at the Battle of Clontarf by Brian Boru. After that the Vikings were no longer a dominant force on the island.
Before that, around 1000 AD Brian Boru had united Celtic Ireland under his own rule.

The Norse were basically defeated and kicked out of Ireland in 1014 at the Battle of Clontarf by Brian Boru. After that the Vikings were no longer a dominant force on the island.
Before that, around 1000 AD Brian Boru had united Celtic Ireland under his own rule.

Ireland's population is full of norse blood.

Ireland Stays, It had enough power to Contest the English, just as the welsh and scots did, Infact it was very much like scotland with a simmilar Population, It lost because it had "fresh" troops and more of them committed by king edward.

ive started the game thread Click here (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=92563)

This Game has Officially Started, if you know someone who wants to play, give them a Dukedom, They get 500 soldiers as explained in the FAQ

Note you dont get your new Troop bonus untill tommorow

Any nations left for me to play as?

you can be a lord... I need someone to administer Iceland.

There is Some, Its only Just started so i will allow one or two Last minutes signups, Pick an country around in 1000AD that hasnt allready been taken or left as a free sector

And you dont Own Iceland youve still got to get there :p lol

Takes 2 days in ship :P 400 miles per day = ship :P (i made i such an unrealistic number because ship journeys are so long)

The Troops aren't there but an agreement at the allthing gave me ownership of Iceland, the troops are to defend my new terroritory.

Is it too late to join. If not I'd like Either Iceland or Greenland?? I'd prefer Iceland.

Youll have to go Greenland i think, either that or defend against the danish by tommorow lol

Ground Forces:

300 Hwarang - Foot Archers - Medium-ranged foot infantry with little armor; stronger, tougher than normal Crossbowmen.

200 War Wagon - Heavily Armored Wagons carried by two heavily armored horses. Inside the wagons were groups of archers which fired into enemy forces from small windows as the War Wagon sped around quickly evading the enemy.

500 Korean Swordsmen - Korean Swordsmen are heavily armored infantry troops that use the traditional Korean Sword of the time.

500 Korean Spearmen - Korean Infantry , Medium Armor , carries long spears.

400 Korean Heavy Cavalry - Korean Heavy Cavalry have heavy armor lances and swords.

100 Heavy Flaming Arrow - Korean Artillery , thats right the Koreans implemented the use of gunpowder and made some of the earliest cannons.

Navy:

50 Kobukson (Turtle Ship) - First Ships ever to wield Cannons. Top is covered in an armored shell thats covered with spikes to prevent the enemy from boarding it. Its primary use was to kill other ships which it done very effectively , it was on occasion used for bombarding land based positions though it was not meant for this use and wasnt as effective at it.

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Situation in Korea:

Recently Korea was reunified under the banner of Koryo but it would not last for long. A man of German descent named Ottis Hester came to Korea , his long journey was not in vain. He fell in love with the Korean people , he learned their language , their culture. He always enjoyed not being hassled for his religious beliefs , he was Pagan and he knew he could not bring this out in the open in Europe for fear of death.

Soon Ottis Hester gathered many followers , he wanted Korea for his own and he disagreed with the Koryo faction on many accounts. In a coup Ottis gained control and became King of the Korean Kingdom. Buddhism was almost eliminated in favor of Ottis's Pagan beliefs. Korea was soon whipped into shape but not all changed , art and trade flourished and the Kingdom became quite wealthy. Ottis's dream had come true , but what was next for Korea , his little Kingdom?

We RP on A different Thread Elara this ones Just for Last minute Signups :)