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I am in need of:

11-11-2003, 23:10
250,000 - ZASTAVA M85 Sub-Machine Guns
25,000 - ZASTAVA M76 Sniper Rifles
150,000 - ZASTAVA M80 Automatic Rifles
500,000 - ZASTAVA M88 Pistols
2,500 - Franchi SPAS-12
5,000 - Bumbar ATGM with 500 launchers

This is a start...
12-11-2003, 03:21
Can anyone sell me these weopons???
Lord Edward
12-11-2003, 03:25
Doubtfull because you so specificly said waht you want. you should just go and buy the best stuff you can find.
Eredron
12-11-2003, 03:25
The question is, can you afford it..

Use the Search function, at the top right corner of the screen, or browse the various storefronts.
Kurlej
12-11-2003, 03:27
i doubt it he might be able to afford some but barely.
12-11-2003, 03:29
I have 3,613,800,000 to waist with more to come. I want these weopons because they are types of ak 47 and 74 build cheaper. They should be about 500 each with pistols about 200 or so.
Eredron
12-11-2003, 03:30
So you have taken into account the salaries of your soldiers, the cost to maintain any military equipment and your infrastructure( ie. military bases)?
ISAF
12-11-2003, 03:33
I agree. You specifically stated what you wanted, and hardly anyone knows what a ZASTAVA M85 is. Why not just check out some storefronts, and pick some out?
12-11-2003, 03:34
I m just gettin stated so no not realy, but i am preparing for a half a million man army. but i guess it will have to be about 50-100 thousand.

So new list:
35,000 - ZASTAVA M85 Sub-Machine Guns
3,500 - ZASTAVA M76 Sniper Rifles
25,000 - ZASTAVA M80 Automatic Rifles
60,000 - ZASTAVA M88 Pistols
2,500 - Franchi SPAS-12
5,000 - Bumbar ATGM with 500 launchers

More in the lines of tanks, planes, ships will follow.........
Credonia
12-11-2003, 03:35
Credonia's storefront: http://www.geocities.com/credonia ask anyone (Some of the big nations who have bought air units from us), were really cheap and have some of the best quality aircraft
imported_Sileetris
12-11-2003, 03:36
You may actually want to take a look at our weapons storefront (http://www.freewebs.com/bluebomber/storefrontweapons.htm), with the RIW-5 being of particular interest.

It can use 7.62, and AK mags, but is much more refined and actually cheaper to produce. We can sell them for 400 per because we have armed our entire military with them and now have entire factories dedicated to churning them out.......
ISAF
12-11-2003, 03:38
You missed my point...

You wont find any real guns on nationstates, with the exeption of Kalashnikov, Colt, Steyr, and HK. You can't be very choosy about which gun you get. Just buy according to stats, not producer.
12-11-2003, 03:43
Sorry bout that I posted too soon, i didn't read you post. I am looking for the best substitudes right now.

Oki one quetion how would I become a weopons dealer?? I wan to deal in chearper nock off weopons.. :D
12-11-2003, 03:57
RPK-74M Light Machine Gun (LMG)
caliber 5.45x39 mm
weigth 5 kg on bipod
Length 1060 mm
Length of barrel 590 mm
feeding box: box magazine 45 rounds or 75 round drum
rate of fire 600 rounds per minute
The RPK-74M internally is almost the same Ak-74 rifle - select-fire, gas operated, rotating bolt locked firearm with heaviuer and longer, non-removable barrel, bipod, and redesigned buttstock. RPK-74 can be fed from 45 rounds box magazines or standart AK-74 30 rounds box magazines. 75 rounds drums, similar in design to those of RPK, are used by the Bisonic Army. The RPK-74M is equipped with a side-mount for IR (night vision) scopes. RPK-74Ms are manufactured with polymer handguards and side-folding polymer buttstocks.

$700 each

http://kalashnikov.guns.ru/images/144.jpg
Soviet Haaregrad
12-11-2003, 03:58
As a sign of good will the Pan-Haaregradian Defence Institute will send you for free blueprints and all needed equipment to produce the AK-107/108 assault rifle.
12-11-2003, 04:01
Thank you very much my good friend are you in the Maxist Pact #5???
Soviet Haaregrad
12-11-2003, 04:12
Thank you very much my good friend are you in the Maxist Pact #5???

Yes we are. Also, would you care for some military assistance? We can offer you discount rates on equipment in exchange for land to build a base.
12-11-2003, 04:15
Well certanly. I would enjoy the capasity to build 150 J-21 Jastreb light ground attack aircraft?? Also what type of base will you be building?
12-11-2003, 04:15
You missed my point...

You wont find any real guns on nationstates, with the exeption of Kalashnikov, Colt, Steyr, and HK. You can't be very choosy about which gun you get. Just buy according to stats, not producer.

People definitely sell more than just those RL brands (me included), but when you start getting into clones, most people don't bother.
12-11-2003, 04:16
I know that now, but the ZASTAVA M76 Sniper Rifles is a very good sniper rifle with range of about 2 miles creeated from the Ak-47 model, very long barrel with inferred targetting.
Soviet Haaregrad
12-11-2003, 04:21
Well certanly. I would enjoy the capasity to build 150 J-21 Jastreb light ground attack aircraft?? Also what type of base will you be building?

A medium sized naval base would suit us well.

Perhaps you might be interested our version of the Sukhoi S54/55 instead?

T-54A/B/C Mystic

Primary Function: Intermediate and Advanced Trainer, Advanced and Weapons Trainer(B model), Naval Advanced Trainer(C model)
Contractor: Pheonix Air Systems
Power Plant: 1x TF404-180 18 000lbs thrust turbofan
Length: 40'4" (12.3 meters)
Height: 14'8" (4.47 meters)
Wingspan: 29'10" (9.08 meters)
Ceiling: 59 050' (18 000 meters)
Speed: Mach 1.6
Ferry Range: 1 240 miles (2 000km)
Empty Weight: 10 560lbs (4 790 kg)
Maximum Takeoff Weight: 20 745lbs (9 410 kg)
Armament: none, provision for training stores, gun pods and rocket pods on b model
Unit cost: $9 500 000/$12 500 000/$10 000 000
Crew: two
Notes: C model is a navalized version of the T-54A

F/A-55A/B Mystic

Primary Function: Advanced High Manuverbility Light Tactical Fighter, Conversion Trainer and LTF(B model)
Contractor: Pheonix Air Systems
Power Plant: 1x TF404-220-V 22 000lbs thrust turbofan
Length: 40'4" (12.3 meters)
Height: 14'8" (4.47 meters)
Wingspan: 29'10" (9.08 meters)
Ceiling: 59 050' (18 000 meters)
Speed: Mach 1.95
Ferry Range: 1 240 miles (2 000km)
Empty Weight: 10 560lbs (4 790 kg)
Maximum Takeoff Weight: 20 745lbs (9 410 kg)
Armament: 1x GAU-25-3 25mm gattling cannon with 200 rounds, 2 wingtip, 4 underwing and 1 underfuselage hardpoints capable of carrying up to 9 000lbs(4 082kg) of disposable ordinance, including AA-11 Adder, AA-12 Archer AAMs, ARM-10 Killer ARM, many other ASMs, smart and dumb bombs, cannon pods, rocket pods, ECM pods and fuel tanks
Unit cost: $ 21 000 000
Crew: 1, 2 in B model


http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-10/422994/s54-3view.gif

These planes have so far shown themselves very sturdy and dependable in Haaregradian service, with maintainence costs roughly 75% that of the F-5E Tiger II.
12-11-2003, 04:25
We could sell you the superior Yak-130 training aircraft, if you are interested. The light fighter versions (Yak-131, Yak-133, Yak-135) can be sold upon customer request as well.
12-11-2003, 04:25
No thank, not a this time, I am intrested in developing my own systems. (Based much on old Yugoslavian products, my homeland) Now I am intresed for the Ak-107 how much are they to produce in domestic production?? how much is the factory??

As well as would our ships be granted access to use the naval base?
12-11-2003, 04:27
no thank you Dark Terror, the G-2/G-4 and J-22 that are planed will suite me well.
12-11-2003, 04:28
We can donate 50,000 An-94 assault rifles to your armed forces, they have some advantages over the Ak-107.
Soviet Haaregrad
12-11-2003, 04:28
No thank, not a this time, I am intrested in developing my own systems. (Based much on old Yugoslavian products, my homeland) Now I am intresed for the Ak-107 how much are they to produce in domestic production?? how much is the factory??

As well as would our ships be granted access to use the naval base?

Of course they would be given use of the base. Umm... We'll build the factory for you in exchange for land. The rifles should cost you $400ish to build for yourself.
12-11-2003, 04:29
no thank you Dark Terror, the G-2/G-4 and J-22 that are planed will suite me well.
Oh, the stuff we have in our museums. We built around 60 Orao's as light attack aircraft some time ago, we can donate those to you as well.
Soviet Haaregrad
12-11-2003, 04:30
We can donate 50,000 An-94 assault rifles to your armed forces, they have some advantages over the Ak-107.

Some, except they are way harder to maintain. They do have that nice two shot burst that's so fast the second bullet is gone before the recoil from the first shot effects it though.
12-11-2003, 04:31
Dank Terror how genorous, our solders will enjoy a variety of equipment. Are you a member of the Marsixt pact as well?

A free factory you say S.H. very nice, thank you I will be sure to donate troops to any of your protection needs.
Soviet Haaregrad
12-11-2003, 04:33
Dank Terror how genorous, our solders will enjoy a variety of equipment. Are you a member of the Marsixt pact as well?

A free factory you say S.H. very nice, thank you I will be sure to donate troops to any of your protection needs.

Crews are on their way to build it. After this one is built your state-run arms company can just copy it.
12-11-2003, 04:35
Thank you, Dark terro i would apresiate the 60 Oraos to go with the J-21's, these planes will be used for training our crews and will be given updates of new engines, radar, IR, laser and ect...

Thanks again S.H.
12-11-2003, 04:38
Im not a marxist pact member, though recently I stopped sending communists to gulags and began sending them to Soviet Haaregrad. Im capitalist stalinist basically.

We will send the 60 Orao's and 50,000 AN-94's, as well as personnel to train your pilots and soldiers. If you need anything else, tell me.
12-11-2003, 04:41
I will be talking to you about udgrades later on. Perhaphs GE engines for the oraos and better roles royce for the Jastrebs. Also western mavs, and ASM will follow in the upcomming days.