NationStates Jolt Archive


Xanter starting nuclear weapons program

11-11-2003, 16:40
Now that Xanter has the plans for Hiroshima grade nuclear weapons (Bought from Dontgonethere), and is heavily mining uranium and metal, we believe we may have what it takes to produce a very small nuke.

Stay tuned.We'll keep you updated.
Esamopia
11-11-2003, 16:46
Hmm... yet another nation with nuclear weapons... is there anything we can do (money, technology, alliance, etc.) that would act as an incentive not to make the nuke?
Talkos
11-11-2003, 16:51
It is in the opinion of The Dominion of Talkos that a much wiser course than the development of nuclear arms would be to pursue a course of diplomacy, especially for a nation in its early days such as yours. We believe that strong friends and allies hold much more significance than nuclear arms, especially given the extreme proliferation of such arms, and that if a nation such as yours uses them then they will be subjected to international sanctions and lose much respect from the world community. We believe that if a nation like yours wishes for protection, then they only need to ask such from a larger nation, not spend money on producing outdated nuclear weapons.
11-11-2003, 16:56
we of the remmonlands do not care much for the development of nuclear weapons, they irradiate the target area, are expensive to research and build and are often shot down by nations with any substantial technologic level

instead we are currently developing AICBM lasers with the purpose of shooting down those same ICBM's before they can become a risk

we do have nuclear power and use it a lot because of the power requirements of lasers but are in the process of replacing conventional nuclear power with fusion nuclear power and potentially the development of long range thermonuclear weapons for self defense (ie, detonate near a group of missiles coming towards us to take those missiles down and retaliatory strikes)

please see the remmonlands research thread for more information
Taka
11-11-2003, 16:56
Maybe a protection agency

we larger nations get together and dictate that should your nation be attacked, rather than you having a nuke as deturent, you have a collective of very large, very angry nations ready to pound your agressors into poweder.
11-11-2003, 16:58
Hmm... yet another nation with nuclear weapons... is there anything we can do (money, technology, alliance, etc.) that would act as an incentive not to make the nuke?

:arrow:

Hmmm...Possibly...possibly...I guess we would like as many allies as possible. Prhaps...Alright. We shall produce the nuke later(If ever)if we will be able to have an alliance with you.
11-11-2003, 17:16
Hmm..after some afterthought, we have decided to halt our nuclear weapons program for some time...if not forever. However, we'd love to go into trade with all of you :D
Talkos
11-11-2003, 17:19
Hmm..after some afterthought, we have decided to halt our nuclear weapons program for some time...if not forever. However, we'd love to go into trade with all of you :D

The Dominion of Talkos applauds the responsible and wise decision of Xanter. And would be glad to have further relations with such a receptive nation, perhaps even open up some tariff free trade if they so like...
Ozymandias IV
11-11-2003, 17:43
The Republic of Ozymandias IV also applauds the decision of Xanter to halt development of its nuclear program.

This is a most promising development in the nonproliferation of WMDs.

As a nuclear-free power, we hope to see other small nations follow our example in rejecting WMDs as a military option.

Umberto IV
Secretary of Information,
Republic of Ozymandias IV
11-11-2003, 17:45
like i said, nuclear power, YES, nuclear bombs, NO

well, not untill i go into space anyways, after all a fusion bomb isn't much of WMD in space
Taka
11-11-2003, 18:20
We applaud this move from your nation, and are willing to open trade routes with your country as incentive to not pursue this path.
11-11-2003, 18:31
any money you want ill fund
11-11-2003, 21:56
the reincarnated you trying to bribe for weapons
leave me alone I don't like being an underling
11-11-2003, 21:59
Is it me or almost every nation here will get nuclear weapons eventually. Anyways,good for you nation to have nukes but we will consider you a major threat if you use it as part of you plan to attack our nation or my allies in MasterDebater region.
Esamopia
12-11-2003, 00:32
True to our word, we will offer a full defensive alliance to your people. This alliance will be activated once any nations infringes upon the soverignty of Talkos, and after your bringing this to our attention of course.

In the meantime and for as long as you do not produce "nukes," we will provide you with $3.1 Billion / year for the peaceful development of nuclear power (such as nuclear power plants and other useful things,) as well as a general economic and military aid package of $5.5 Billion per year. Should you need more we can provide low interest loans or other arrangements.

We are also open to any further suggestions, and are willing to join with you in a free trade and joint research agreement, if you feel this to be satisfactory.

We thank your nation for its bold step forward!
Taka
12-11-2003, 02:23
Joining with our friends Esamopia, we will likwise provide defence should you find yourself on the recieving end of an unprovoked attack. Mearly send us both TG's, and we will be there to flatten your agressor. Please note, if you have done soemthing to warrent an attack on oyu, we will not protect you, only if you are on the revicingend of threats or warmingering imperialism.
Credonia
12-11-2003, 02:41
Credonia would like to offer you 25 Minuteman III missiles each equipted with a 200 kiloton nuclear warhead. No charge and no strings attached.
Talkos
12-11-2003, 02:46
The Dominion of Talkos would like to officially warn Credonia that its actions are very irresponsible. And request that the offer be retracted lest economic and diplomatic sanctions be enacted against the nation of Credonia.....
Gaeltach
12-11-2003, 02:49
Gaeltach also salutes the abandon of nuclear arms. We are more than willing to form an alliance, both politically and militarily, and negotiate trades, if you so desire.
Credonia
12-11-2003, 02:49
The Dominion of Talkos would like to officially warn Credonia that its actions are very irresponsible. And request that the offer be retracted lest economic and diplomatic sanctions be enacted against the nation of Credonia.....

OOC: Our actions arent irresponsible (Example of somethin like this hapening is the Soviets and Cubans back during the 60's under President Kennedy's era.)

IC: Very well, in the best interest of the Credonian, we retract our statement......
Talkos
12-11-2003, 03:01
OOC: Our actions arent irresponsible (Example of somethin like this hapening is the Soviets and Cubans back during the 60's under President Kennedy's era.)

IC: Very well, in the best interest of the Credonian, we retract our statement......

OOC: Which was very a valid strategic move, but still irresponsible. :wink:

The Dominion of Talkos applauds the wise actions of Credonia, this has been a great victory for international peace and diplomacy, and hopes for a further limitation to the continued proliferation of nuclear arms.
Credonia
12-11-2003, 03:04
OOC: How was it irresponsible, the way i see it is that it was bold and daring, BRILLIANT on the soviet side of things, if it hadent been for Kennedy's planning it would have been perfectly carried out
Gaeltach
12-11-2003, 03:22
OOC: How was it irresponsible, the way i see it is that it was bold and daring, BRILLIANT on the soviet side of things, if it hadent been for Kennedy's planning it would have been perfectly carried out

OOC: Think about it...Would it really be a good idea to leave weapons like that with someone like Castro? Yeah, they might have had similar motives, but unless Soviets were stationed there as well to control and defend the missiles, it could have been a disaster for more than just the US.
Credonia
12-11-2003, 03:30
OOC: But then again you must realize, Castro didnt have missiles that could reach all that far, so any other power within the world with Intercontinental range could easily wipe cuba off the face of the planet. There would have been a considerable amount of deterrent against castro, he would be FORCED to think twice before launching one of those things at anyone, even the US. If i were him, i sure as hell wouldnt, unless i was threatened.
Gaeltach
12-11-2003, 03:40
OOC: Granted...but Castro isn't someone I would exactly call "rational." Besides, the Bay of Pigs fiasco would certainly be construed as a threat, would it not?
Credonia
12-11-2003, 03:41
OOC: Granted...but Castro isn't someone I would exactly call "rational." Besides, the Bay of Pigs fiasco would certainly be construed as a threat, would it not?

OOC: True but the missiles werent operational then. They weree being built assembled and put online
Gaeltach
12-11-2003, 03:44
OOC: I realize this, but it still would have been a pretty large threat, in my opinion. You know...that whole assassination attempt and all. He does seem the type to hold a grudge...
Credonia
12-11-2003, 08:43
OOC: well yea but still, the whole thing of deterrent, the stupid bastard would need to realize that he coudnt win either way and so the use of nukes would be pointless. If he shot them off, then we would most definitly shoot ours off, and if he did that, then the whole revoluton, everything that he has been figiting for, might as well just have been for no reason. I think he would have enough sense to realize that, i mean look at what kind of man he was before. If he could take down a government, then he MUST have had some kind of sense, i mean you cant just overthrow a government, without strategy and a good sense of it at that
Esamopia
12-11-2003, 14:40
"I warn Credonia and Galetech to cease hijacking. If you love the Cuban Missile Crisis so much, please open a new thread in the General Forum and discuss it there!"

Undersecretary for Hijacking
Ministry of OOC Affairs
Gaeltach
12-11-2003, 14:52
You could at least spell my country right if you have an issue.
12-11-2003, 15:55
OOC:Not,its OK.(Directed at Esamopia)

IC: Thank you for ALL your kind proposals. We feel it an honor to be allied with such powerful countries.

And, after long reconsideration, we feel it was wrong to start producing nuclear weapons. They are big and ugly and leave a big crater and lotsa radiation. We will try more conservative things, like EMP's and Nuetron bombs (j/k :wink: )