How would you rate my military:
Main Battle Tanks: (7,000) include:
3000 challengers:
4000 Kazquim M1a1 Abrams:
Armored Fighting Vehicles: (1000)
1000 Warrior mechanized infantry combat vehicles:
Artillery: (2000)
2000 155mm M198 Howitzer
Infantry:
200,000 chemical bio suits
1,000,000 with M136/AT4 anti tank missiles, M18 Claymore, PASGT helmet, Interceptor Body armor,
1,000,000 with M4A1, M18 Claymore, PASGT helmet, Interceptor Body armor,
50,000 other
Air Power: (3,600)
F-4 Phantom: (2750)
200 f-23 black widows
Rockwell B-1B bomber: (150)
500 Boeing Vertol CH-47 Chinooks
4 B-2 Spirit Bombers
Sea Power: (686)
420 Type 22 Frigates:
SUBMARINES:
260 HMS Torbay Trafalgar class:
AIRCRAFT CARRIERS:
3 Razor-class nuclear Battlecarrier
3 Removal-class nuclear Helicopter carrier
2,000 Special operation crafts:
1 KAC-9 Farsight
Rockets:
Long-Range V2 Rocket (500)
Specs:
weight:3 tons
speed:250 miles per hour
Blast Radius:1 1/2 Miles
Price:200,000 ea
some of the totals may be off from the acual amount because I sold some and i added some.
Credonia
11-11-2003, 03:07
thats a bit much for such a small nation, if i didnt know any better id say its on the brink of GODMOD
New Empire
11-11-2003, 03:08
Way too many infantry and tanks. Your total amount of men, both infantry and crewmen, shouldn't be more than around 4-5% of your population.
seriosuly? how....according to http://www.esyn.org/SOTA/NationStates.html
i get 75 billion dollars in defense spending each ns year which equals one rl day.
5% of my pop. is 2,000,000
which is the amount of infantry i have.
New Empire
11-11-2003, 03:11
Well, you can't buy men. And your infantry alone is 5% of your population, and you need about twice the amount of combat troops for support, which puts your army alone at around 15% of your nation.
so what do you think it should be?
Pain and Misery
11-11-2003, 03:13
Dude, your military is about 2 million people. You are what I would call a godmoder. get a little mor realistic.
i put up this thread for suggestions, why do you think the amount should be. i dont see how ti is a godmod if i acually bought everything according to my defense spending...any suggestions please?
New Empire
11-11-2003, 03:15
Your TOTAL military, of about 5%, would be 2 million people. Now, divide that by the number of branches you have (In your case, Army, Navy, and Aircraft.). Divide that number by 3, and that is the amount of men you have per service to operate combat weapons. This includes infantry, tank drivers, combat pilots, warship sailors, etc. Anyone fighting. The rest are the support, like the cooks, medics, supply truck drivers, etc.
lol whats wrong with 2 mill people :D what should i scale it down to?
o ok..thanks...brb im gunna go calculate thart...but besides the infanrty all the tanks, ships, etc should be right...right?
New Empire
11-11-2003, 03:19
o ok..thanks...brb im gunna go calculate thart...but besides the infanrty all the tanks, ships, etc should be right...right?
Well, you may want to cut the numbers in half for everything but the Chinooks, but the Subs and frigates should be about 1/20th of what they are. The US and russia combined doesn't have that many subs or frigates.
200,000 would be more accurate (US is i beleive 350k troops and 250M total pop
ok thanks to everyone..it should be about right now...just a few miscalculations. I hope im not a godmodder any more! :wink:
Lord_Zero
11-11-2003, 03:39
It's a decent army for a small nation. Very good job, though yeah, it shows that you are obviously a VERY militaristic nation. Though my army is nearly 50 times the size. Ahhh, I remember the old days of NS, when we had 10% of our nations population in the military...
or in the first week of december... 90%, ie armies of 8M
It all looks good, but I'd work on improving your Airforce. The F-4s days are behind it, your main fighter should be one of the newer F-22s, JSFs, Eurofighter 2000s or perhaps Su-37s. I personally use a mix of F-15s, F-16s, and MiG-29s to fill in that role.
Great Mateo
11-11-2003, 05:22
Even 5% of your population in your military is too much. A better number is 1-2% in peace time, 2-3% in a minor military conflict, and 3-5% in total war. And please for the love of God, don't use 1 NS year = 1 RL day. That's so incredibly cheap, doing that, it allows you to build your military much faster than you should. A better system is 1 NS year = 12 RL days.
As for your military, I'd call that godmoddishly large, especially your armored stuff. I'm about to go on a budget-reset (end of my 21 day long NS year) spending spree, and even after that, and my forces will barely be that large, and my nation is several times the size of yours.
and just remember, having that many troops means there are that many less people working in your country. Which means less money in circulation. which means a shitty economy. People never realize WHY we cant realistically field a 10% country pop military.