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After several peace protests were organized by catholics in Dark Terror (what happened next made tianmen square look like a picnic...), President Oladsky decided to finish "moving Dark Terror out of the feudal age" by outlawing "this opium for the people". Top church officials and protest ringleaders have been arrested by police. Dark Terror's 150,000 catholics have been given 48 hours to "get the hell out". Any who do not comply will be sent to gulags.

In other news, 2 new gulags were made to accomodate the stream of hippies from these peace protests. They will toil together with nazis, socialists, labor union members, homosexuals, and other prosecuted groups in Dark Terror such as catholics. Dark Terror's gulags are truly nasty places- meet the productivity quota or you don't get any food (though we do keep most prisoners alive..). Prisoners toil on various canals, airports, and anything else required by the Bisonic government.

OOC: Truely brutal. Don't forget weekly a Haaregradian Armed Forces An 225 Cossack comes to pick up the Communist and Socialist prisoners that have been accepted for immigration.

The Barbarian Horde of Dark Terror will keep that in mind, those that you dont accept (mainly militants)- well see the above post.

"Outrageous! ****** outrageous! Why the hell do people let things like this go on?!" The Empress was yelling with a fiery passion. "Set up a damn conference, NOW. I am sick of this b.s."

The Empress will hold a press conference in a matter of minutes concerning this new relevation in Dark terror.

The Barbarian Horde of Dark Terror will keep that in mind, those that you dont accept (mainly militants)- well see the above post.

Well of course :D If it weren't for those hippies being considered Socialists(after all, they basically wrote the doctrine on liberal socialism) we'd leave them. Oh well, the stinky ones can stay. :lol:

A beautiful way of taking care of these fools - they must learn that Man created gods, gods did not create Man.

We congradulate Dark Terror on the economy of their ways, and hope that soon in the future they shall expand this method to include all religions, hypocritical idiots that they are.

~ Pr'Varia Dancos,
Prime of The Unified Empire of The Mindset

EDIT: Though we do not condone the imprisonment of homosexuals, since the Prime is one himself...

(OOC:'the mindset',i hope that what you said isnt really what you belive.)

(OOC:'the mindset',i hope that what you said isnt really what you belive.)

Yes it is, ICly and OOCly.

The Empress was visibly angry as she walked to the podium.

"Okay.."

She started this, and held it, for the effect. It was obvious that she was furious through the tone of her voice was bitter, cold, and sharp. Her eyes were blazing in such a way that nobody had ever seen before.

"As you may know, Dark terror has launched a new program to imprison practically anyone in existence. Nazis, Socialists, labor union members, homosexuals, and catholics. Although I, nor DIDPAC, is a fan of Nazis, we of course would allow them to be persecuted.

However, the others are no harm to this world. Dark terror is a terrorist nation which murders its own people. It's leader is apparently a psychotic moron, murdering all those that oppose him.

We will gladly accept the socialists, labor union members, homosexuals, and catholics. They are people who deserve freedom, and I am utterly furious that the international community accepts this inhumane behavior exhibited by Dark terror. I am one voice alone so far, and I will not stop my new campaign. I will speak out against this oppression.

Dark terror and the likes of that nation have no respect from me or the Penguinatan population. The Mindset, long seen as a friend of ours, is no longer. I will not accept this behavior at all."

She abruptly walked out, and ordered her aides to immediately get to work trying to save as many of those as possible.

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Due to recent events, DIDPAC is requesting that all current prisoners condemned to the gulags be sent to our Earth colony, Arctique Island, with the exception of the Nazis. Payments are negotiable.

--Dept. of International Affairs.

"In other news today, the Empire has sent The Big Ass Transport of Bigness to Dark Terror to transport as many vatholics as possable to the Empire."

Random News Dude

The actions of Dark Terror seem very decent to me. I wrote a leaflet on decensy.

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=90629

Prime Minister Sir. Charles Smith
His Majesty's Viceroy
The Commonwealth of Wollanda
The Code of Decensy: http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=90629

(OOC:'the mindset',i hope that what you said isnt really what you belive.)

Yes it is, ICly and OOCly.


OOC:i Belive otherwise,but i dont care much for catholiocs,after the spainish inquisition{in real life} and the other stuff like that,but what Relegion are you in real life ?,no offense but i am a Christian and i Belive that God created man,not the otehr way around.

As a Catholic, I believe the same thing. I also do not belive that the inqusition (it happened all over Europe, not just Spain) was too good either. Finally, the Pope lives like a king, not one of the poor rigghteous Apostles (or Peter, whom he is succesor of)

Protests are being held outside the Senate Building and La Villa Presidenziale. People are outraged that our country is aligned with one so avidly against the vast majority of our people's religion. While the protests single the first mass outcry against our government in some time, that fact is not comforting, and our national leaders are already meeting to discuss this turn of events.

(The spanish inquisition was not as bad as they say, just watched a special on it on the History Channel. It was more of an attempt to get control of southern spain, not really a racial genocide.)

(OOC:'the mindset',i hope that what you said isnt really what you belive.)

Yes it is, ICly and OOCly.


OOC:i Belive otherwise,but i dont care much for catholiocs,after the spainish inquisition{in real life} and the other stuff like that,but what Relegion are you in real life ?,no offense but i am a Christian and i Belive that God created man,not the otehr way around.

Howbe instead of whining about our OOC beliefs we just go on with this RP. Besides, more people are atheists today then ever before.

Pr'Varia was visibly shocked by Isla de Penguinta's recent voidation of their previous ties with The Empire. It was not unexpected, however, and he was mildly amused.

"She considers Catholics to be 'harmless'. She most likely also considers other religious fools to be 'harmless'. How quaint that she cannot realise they have did nothing by decieve and manipulate the population for over 2000 years?"

He flexes his hands, coiling them around his luxury leather chair.

"No matter, our relationship may be over. It never provided us with much benefit, and no profit was ever gained."

In his rise to power, Pr'Varia had shown many signs that were desireable to the population of The Empire: courage, wit and a logical outlook on the world. The Mindettia have never believed in religion, they believe in anti-religion - and that all faith should be punished by liquidation. Everything is controlled by cause and effect.

Pr'Varia was tiring of his reign. This was his fourth and final term in office, his rule had lasted nearly 666 years. He wanted to rid the universe of the scum that was fanatics - and he was doing so only by supporting other nations to do the dirty work.

OOC:

Mindsettians are not human, and live to about 137 years old. However, between terms Pr'Varia has been in chryostasis.

OOC:i Belive otherwise,but i dont care much for catholiocs,after the spainish inquisition{in real life} and the other stuff like that,but what Relegion are you in real life ?,no offense but i am a Christian and i Belive that God created man,not the otehr way around.

I am no religion. I worship nothing other than the wonders that man has created from nothing.

There is no god.

There never was a god.

Man created god to explain a world he could not understand.

He can now understand it through science - religion is redundant. Religion no longer has purpose and all things without purpose must be disposed of.

Please note that there are also far more people than there ever has been.

IC:

A buzzer goes off in the President's office; the President answers a red phone.

"Hello," he answers.
"This is General Arthas,"the voice spoke, "We have a situation in Dark Terror"
"What sort of situation?"
"Well, in one of thier announcements they said they are buildin' some gulags. Catholics, Nazis, Socialists, and generaly any liberal is being persecuted."
"And? Didnt they do similar things when they were still apart of the former nation the Bisons?"
"They did,but my point is that they havent done it in Dark Terror until now"
"At least that we know of, General"
"What should we do?"
"Nothing."
"And let the people be oppressed?"
"Thats what we did last time....hell we even oppress our people some"
Arthas conveiniontly got "disconnected"; he went on plotting some sort of rescue attempt. He was a renegade

OOC:i Belive otherwise,but i dont care much for catholiocs,after the spainish inquisition{in real life} and the other stuff like that,but what Relegion are you in real life ?,no offense but i am a Christian and i Belive that God created man,not the otehr way around.

I am no religion. I worship nothing other than the wonders that man has created from nothing.

There is no god.

There never was a gad.

Man created god to explain a world he could not understand.

He can now understand it through science - religion is redundant. Religion no longer has purpose and all things without purpose must be disposed of.

Nonsense!

*waves walking stick around in the air in protest

Prime Minister Sir. Charles Smith
His Majesty's Viceroy
The Commonwealth of Wollanda
The Code of Decensy: http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=90629

"Religion has never caused war...intolerance has caused war, jealousy has caused war, hate has caused war. Religion is often used as an excuse for ones actions, a means for control, but it is not the religion that is evil, it is the person who uses it as a veil. Now it is time to break that facade, break that curtain of secrecy, end intolerance, and end injustice. Catholicism, in it's core beliefs, is one of the most pacifist religions in the world, it is when unrighteous people manipulate those who truly believe that the greatest horrors are unleashed......Water has caused war, yet is it banned? Fertile land has caused war, yet is it banned?

Differences cause wars, instead of abolishing what makes us different maybe we should abolish hating those differences."

As taken from Archbishop Alfonso Carbonata , head of the Catholic Church of Agrigento.

After several peace protests were organized by catholics in Dark Terror (what happened next made tianmen square look like a picnic...), President Oladsky decided to finish "moving Dark Terror out of the feudal age" by outlawing "this opium for the people". Top church officials and protest ringleaders have been arrested by police. Dark Terror's 150,000 catholics have been given 48 hours to "get the hell out". Any who do not comply will be sent to gulags.

In other news, 2 new gulags were made to accomodate the stream of hippies from these peace protests. They will toil together with nazis, socialists, labor union members, homosexuals, and other prosecuted groups in Dark Terror such as catholics. Dark Terror's gulags are truly nasty places- meet the productivity quota or you don't get any food (though we do keep most prisoners alive..). Prisoners toil on various canals, airports, and anything else required by the Bisonic government.

Lord Bane the ruler of his domain send word to the ruler of Dark Terror:

"Your concentration camps are wasteful on your economy my suggestion is to...
Wipe the out, all of them." (the prisoners, I mean)

Lord Bane the deity of Tyranny

The Commonwealth demands that this flagrent violation of human rights cease immediately. We will not stand by and watch our Catholic brothers and sisters be murdered. If these political prisoners are not freed, our hand will be forced.


-Chancellor James Lynch, Commonwealth of Seversky.

"Religion has never caused war...intolerance has caused war, jealousy has caused war, hate has caused war. Religion is often used as an excuse for ones actions, a means for control, but it is not the religion that is evil, it is the person who uses it as a veil. Now it is time to break that facade, break that curtain of secrecy, end intolerance, and end injustice. Catholicism, in it's core beliefs, is one of the most pacifist religions in the world, it is when unrighteous people manipulate those who truly believe that the greatest horrors are unleashed......Water has caused war, yet is it banned? Fertile land has caused war, yet is it banned?

Differences cause wars, instead of abolishing what makes us difference maybe we should abolish hating those differences."

As taken from Archbishop Alfonso Carbonata , head of the Catholic Church of Agrigento.

Religion is ignorance. There is no degree of seperation. If you believe in a god or a religion you are ignorant of the true nature of the universe. Religion is intolerance.

The Commonwealth demands that this flagrent violation of human rights cease immediately. We will not stand by and watch our Catholic brothers and sisters be murdered. If these political prisoners are not freed, our hand will be forced.


-Chancellor James Lynch, Commonwealth of Seversky.

If it comes to war Lord Bane will support The Barbarian Horde of Dark terror.

Lord Bane the deity of Tyranny

As will the nation of Artitsa.

Then we must destroy you before the war (yes it is inevitable).
Dude, shut the hell up about religion being wrong. You are not tolerating religion (which aetheism is), but you are saying that religion is intolerant and is thus wrong.

OOC:i Belive otherwise,but i dont care much for catholiocs,after the spainish inquisition{in real life} and the other stuff like that,but what Relegion are you in real life ?,no offense but i am a Christian and i Belive that God created man,not the otehr way around.

I am no religion. I worship nothing other than the wonders that man has created from nothing.

There is no god.

There never was a god.

Man created god to explain a world he could not understand.

He can now understand it through science - religion is redundant. Religion no longer has purpose and all things without purpose must be disposed of.


Well,i Belive there is a God,i am a Christian and i hope that somewhere in youre life you do accept the fact that there is a God. and i know that there are alot of atheists out there,it is a somewhat scary fact considering that so many countries have very relegious beliefs,and the USA had a very strong Christian base when it was setteled. and i do not understand why so many people[mainly atheists] deny the existance of God,it is foolish since the country they live in was based on the Chrsitan beliefs{mainly america).but i guess some atheists wont change and deny the fact that God gave his only begotten Son to die for ours sins,and the God also loved them enough to give them all they have,and God conitnues to love evreyone atheist,Christian any and evreyone he will always love.

Then we must destroy you before the war (yes it is inevitable).
Dude, shut the hell up about religion being wrong. You are not tolerating religion (which aetheism is), but you are saying that religion is intolerant and is thus wrong.

I said nothing about intolerance being wrong. I simply stated that religion is intelerant, and hypocritical. I'm not Atheist, also.

I would lend support to Dark Terror, but unfortunately he blanket ignores space tech. So, i'm only offering my OOC commendments on his IC actions.

Well,i Belive there is a God,i am a Christian and i hope that somewhere in youre life you do accept the fact that there is a God. and i know that there are alot of atheists out there,it is a somewhat scary fact considering that so many countries have very relegious beliefs,and the USA had a very strong Christian base when it was setteled. and i do not understand why so many people[mainly atheists] deny the existance of God,it is foolish since the country they live in was based on the Chrsitan beliefs{mainly america).but i guess some atheists wont change and deny the fact that God gave his only begotten Son to die for ours sins,and the God also loved them enough to give them all they have,and God conitnues to love evreyone atheist,Christian any and evreyone he will always love.

Oh please, do not lower my IQ, thank you.

Official Statement from the Allanean Union

While we oppose these actions, we believe that declaring war at this stage is needless.

We would like to offer 1,000 dollars for every persecuted person that is freed and sent out to Allanea to receive a citizenship here.

And how is relegion hypocritical ?,and if you deny there is a God,but you are not a atheist what are you ?

OOC: I agree with Mindset. You are now basing your entire religion on the fact that the US was started as a christian (protestant) nation, therefore, you are saying that since the US was started Protestant, Protestantism must be correct. And that is the most doped up thing I have ever heard of. There is a god, that god is myself, since 'god' only exists in my mind.

Also, if you deny god, but are not an atheist, you can still be an Agnostic.

And how is relegion hypocritical ?,and if you deny there is a God,but you are not a atheist what are you ?

I am Dorranist. Religion is hypocritical because it does not follow its most basic doctrines 99.9% of the time. Christianity especially, since in the Old Testament it encourages war against those who do not believe, by then changes in the New Testament.

Oh please, do not lower my IQ, thank you.
Well Mr. Thinker, is it not possible for the person to have medical problems in writing (dyslexia, etc.)? Could they have not been educated in writing? You dont know unless the writer you quoted says.

BTW, if you just so happen to be a girl (or claim to be one) it is correct for me to call you male as I do not know your sex. At least that is what my Composition teacher says.

Religion is ignorance. There is no degree of seperation. If you believe in a god or a religion you are ignorant of the true nature of the universe. Religion is intolerance.

[code:1:e9f33c3a89]The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of the darkness. For he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know I am the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon you.
Ezekiel 25:17 - Jules' version from Pulp Fiction.[/code:1:e9f33c3a89]

You are mistaken if you believe that ignorance. Your mind is closed to the thoughts of other people, that is blatantly obvious by your tone and choice of words. You can go be atheist, beleive what you want, but be damned if I let you call me ignorant because I believe in something greater than myself.

Oh please, do not lower my IQ, thank you.
Well Mr. Thinker, is it not possible for the person to have medical problems in writing (dyslexia, etc.)? Could they have not been educated in writing? You dont know unless the writer you quoted says.

BTW, if you just so happen to be a girl (or claim to be one) it is correct for me to call you male as I do not know your sex. At least that is what my Composition teacher says.

I wasn't referring to the textual mistakes, I was referring to the errors in /what/ he was writing.

Due to all this interest, Dark Terror is considering auctioning off some laborers.

Severaky- Im a skynet member, and since skynet was merged with my SDI units well not only shoot down your nukes, but glass you several times over in return. Yes I know youll ignore skynet. YOure ignored then. Bye.

I tire of this, bye bye children.

Skynet was godmodding. No thing can shoot down thousands of supersonic objects with 100% accuracy and then return fire and expect to hit with near 100% accuracy.

I tire of this, bye bye children.
Chicken.

I tire of this, bye bye children.

You think by demeaning our seniority you can get out of this discussion and make us all think "wow, he was right!" ? I frankly don't care what helps you sleep at night, whether or not you think that by making a parthian shot you make yourself right. None of this really concerns me, what does is the fact that you are completely convinced of your own correctness.

I tire of this, bye bye children.
Chicken.

Second only to beef.

God exists,He created the world in 7 days,and gave His only son to die for our sins,so if we admit we are sinners(which evreyone is.the only exeption is Jesus Christ,God's only begotten son.)and belive in Him and that He gave his only begotten son to die for our sins on the cross,and confess our faith in Him, we will be saved and when we die {which evreyone will one day,still no exeptions}we will be allowed into Heaven.

*Earlier today, the President of Artitsa, Ted Grimes, was almost killed passing a catholic church. Not because he was recieving gunfire, or someone assaulted his car. His car was almost hit by several catholic peoples racing from church. In his own account "We had been moving along the road at the speed limit, as we passed the church. Out of no where these cars come zooming out of the Church parking lot at rediculus speeds, and several proceeded to cut us off."
This is not the first time there have been church related car accidents on sundays. In fact, in a press release from the chief of police, several motorists have already been killed near catholic churches on sundays. This has led the President to consider banning Catholism due to its murderous intent.*

((True story, happened to me, so don't say its not dangerous driving by a church on a sunday.))

I tire of this, bye bye children.

You think by demeaning our seniority you can get out of this discussion and make us all think "wow, he was right!" ? I frankly don't care what helps you sleep at night, whether or not you think that by making a parthian shot you make yourself right. None of this really concerns me, what does is the fact that you are completely convinced of your own correctness.

I am correct. Thank you for the complement.

God exists,He created the world in 7 days,and gave His only son to die for our sins,so if we admit we are sinners(which evreyone is.the only exeption is Jesus Christ,God's only begotten son.)and belive in Him and that He gave his only begotten son to die for our sins on the cross,and confess our faith in Him, we will be saved and when we die {which evreyone will one day,still no exeptions}we will be allowed into Heaven.

Prove it.

Skynet was godmodding. No thing can shoot down thousands of supersonic objects with 100% accuracy and then return fire and expect to hit with near 100% accuracy. Actually Skynet version 1 was more or less useless, then SDI with its speed-of-light lasers was merged with it, making it in AMF's words "1000% more effective".

I have half a mind to ignore seversky for using nukes right and left and boasting about nuking LOA for no reason- even I dont attack people for OOC reasons (Ive threatened to a few months ago, but never actually have).

I am correct. Thank you for the complement.

What arrogance......(time to end this before it deteriorates even further)

*Earlier today, the President of Artitsa, Ted Grimes, was almost killed passing a catholic church. Not because he was recieving gunfire, or someone assaulted his car. His car was almost hit by several catholic peoples racing from church. In his own account "We had been moving along the road at the speed limit, as we passed the church. Out of no where these cars come zooming out of the Church parking lot at rediculus speeds, and several proceeded to cut us off."
This is not the first time there have been church related car accidents on sundays. In fact, in a press release from the chief of police, several motorists have already been killed near catholic churches on sundays. This has led the President to consider banning Catholism due to its murderous intent.*

((True story, happened to me, so don't say its not dangerous driving by a church on a sunday.))
:D

God exists,He created the world in 7 days,and gave His only son to die for our sins,so if we admit we are sinners(which evreyone is.the only exeption is Jesus Christ,God's only begotten son.)and belive in Him and that He gave his only begotten son to die for our sins on the cross,and confess our faith in Him, we will be saved and when we die {which evreyone will one day,still no exeptions}we will be allowed into Heaven.

Sin is a word that was created by man. There is no such thing as morals, sin nor guilt. They are as artificial and false as the concept of god itself.

Morals are illusions. Sin is an illusion. If Morals do not exist, neither does sin, therefore your Christian definition of 'wrong' is merely words.

[code:1:84551cbd29]The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of the darkness. For he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know I am the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon you.
Ezekiel 25:17 - Jules' version from Pulp Fiction.[/code:1:84551cbd29]

You are mistaken if you believe that ignorance. Your mind is closed to the thoughts of other people, that is blatantly obvious by your tone and choice of words. You can go be atheist, beleive what you want, but be damned if I let you call me ignorant because I believe in something greater than myself.

OOC:
Please, this is just weakling propaganda! There is nothing blessed in shephearding the weak. Those who sheepherd such are not capable of "great vengance and furious anger", they were weakend (if not already weak) by their herd.

Personally, I agree with F. Nietzsche and think that most religions (except the Greekroman) are groups of weaklings too afraid to face life and death, so they must invent some mythical "god" to watch over them.

OOC:
May I calmly ask you take your god exists or he doesnt debate to general where it belongs with the rest of the "debates"?

God exists,He created the world in 7 days,and gave His only son to die for our sins,so if we admit we are sinners(which evreyone is.the only exeption is Jesus Christ,God's only begotten son.)and belive in Him and that He gave his only begotten son to die for our sins on the cross,and confess our faith in Him, we will be saved and when we die {which evreyone will one day,still no exeptions}we will be allowed into Heaven.

Sin is a word that was created by man. There is no such thing as morals, sin nor guilt. They are as artificial and false as the concept of god itself.

Morals are illusions. Sin is an illusion. If Morals do not exist, neither does sin, therefore your Christian definition of 'wrong' is merely words.

I agree.

OOC:
May I calmly ask you take your god exists or he doesnt debate to general where it belongs with the rest of the "debates"?

My apologies, anyways. I ICly support your operations, but cannot help since you blanket ignore me.

Sin is a word that was created by man. There is no such thing as morals, sin nor guilt. They are as artificial and false as the concept of god itself.

Morals are illusions. Sin is an illusion. If Morals do not exist, neither does sin, therefore your Christian definition of 'wrong' is merely words.

I love to listen to how you treat your theories as fact...

DT: Sorry, last thing for me. Back to IC for now.

Great thing that religion itself is a theory, as it can not be proven or disproven, yet you use it as fact, and all things associated with it as fact.

OOC: Let me just clarify, I did not threaten to nuke Dark Terror, and I had no intention to. I am well aware of his presence in Skynet. The worst thing I'd do would have been to break diplomatic relations (the last step before open hostilities).

Great thing that religion itself is a theory, as it can not be proven or disproven, yet you use it as fact, and all things associated with it as fact.

I never said it was a fact....I never claimed to be right, I said that it might be, or it might not. In fact all I said was that he should stop calling people who believe in it Ignorant. And furthermore that he should accept the possibility that he may be wrong

OOC:
May I calmly ask you take your god exists or he doesnt debate to general where it belongs with the rest of the "debates"?

My apologies, anyways. I ICly support your operations, but cannot help since you blanket ignore me.
OOC:
I accept modern tech forces from space tech naitons, if you have any. Basically I accept railguns as the upper limit of modern tech.

Seversky-I though you ignored skynet and called it skyn00b. Confused you with someone then. My apologies.

Great thing that religion itself is a theory, as it can not be proven or disproven, yet you use it as fact, and all things associated with it as fact.

I never said it was a fact....I never claimed to be right, I said that it might be, or it might not. In fact all I said was that he should stop calling people who believe in it Ignorant. And furthermore that he should accept the possibility that he may be wrong

DT: I do have an earth based territory with some 20th century military, but unfortunatly I've not used them for NS years, so they would be of no use.

Agrigento: I am not wrong, and again, thank you for complementing my correctness.

Agrigento: I an not wrong, and again, thank you for complementing my correctness.

Exactly my point...he does not beleive in God, because he believes himself to be god - infallible.

Dark Terror: I am really sorry, this will one of my last OOC post on this thread.

OOC: I made a general forum version of this thread: http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2044900#2044900

OOC: DT you better change your tone very quickly cause once I have the time to post an IC remark your country is toast.

God exists,He created the world in 7 days,and gave His only son to die for our sins,so if we admit we are sinners(which evreyone is.the only exeption is Jesus Christ,God's only begotten son.)and belive in Him and that He gave his only begotten son to die for our sins on the cross,and confess our faith in Him, we will be saved and when we die {which evreyone will one day,still no exeptions}we will be allowed into Heaven.

Sin is a word that was created by man. There is no such thing as morals, sin nor guilt. They are as artificial and false as the concept of god itself.

Morals are illusions. Sin is an illusion. If Morals do not exist, neither does sin, therefore your Christian definition of 'wrong' is merely words.

So by your reasoning its ok to murder people? thats a wonderful happy outlook on life /sarcasm off.

OOC: I made a general forum version of this thread: http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2044900#2044900OOC: Thanks. Now Ill ask you to move the debate about god there and leave this thread to everyone condemning me as a brutal regime.

God exists,He created the world in 7 days,and gave His only son to die for our sins,so if we admit we are sinners(which evreyone is.the only exeption is Jesus Christ,God's only begotten son.)and belive in Him and that He gave his only begotten son to die for our sins on the cross,and confess our faith in Him, we will be saved and when we die {which evreyone will one day,still no exeptions}we will be allowed into Heaven.

Prove it.



Have you read the Bible ?,it doesnt have a lie written in it and it says there is a God and he sent His Son to die for our sins. and i have heard even to arabic relegious book the koran even refrences to God,and by that i dont mean allah,i hear it Refrences to the one true God. if he wasnt real why would so many people in one way or another Belive in Him ?.
Because they are arrogant ? no,it is because if you look and research you will find that He does exist,just because you ask someone and they might not convince you doesnt mean you are right,if you truly belive there is no God the go out and look,ask more people,go read the Bible,i dont know what all you could do. and i might not convine you but i hope that you go out there and find out from other people,and hopefully if you actually belive there is no God you will ask people besides atheists about God.

God exists,He created the world in 7 days,and gave His only son to die for our sins,so if we admit we are sinners(which evreyone is.the only exeption is Jesus Christ,God's only begotten son.)and belive in Him and that He gave his only begotten son to die for our sins on the cross,and confess our faith in Him, we will be saved and when we die {which evreyone will one day,still no exeptions}we will be allowed into Heaven.

Prove it.



Have you read the Bible ?,it doesnt have a lie written in it and it says there is a God and he sent His Son to die for our sins. and i have heard even to arabic relegious book the koran even refrences to God,and by that i dont mean allah,i hear it Refrences to the one true God. if he wasnt real why would so many people in one way or another Belive in Him ?.
Because they are arrogant ? no,it is because if you look and research you will find that He does exist,just because you ask someone and they might not convince you doesnt mean you are right,if you truly belive there is no God the go out and look,ask more people,go read the Bible,i dont know what all you could do. and i might not convine you but i hope that you go out there and find out from other people,and hopefully if you actually belive there is no God you will ask people besides atheists about God.


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OOC: I made a general forum version of this thread: http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2044900#2044900

God exists,He created the world in 7 days,and gave His only son to die for our sins,so if we admit we are sinners(which evreyone is.the only exeption is Jesus Christ,God's only begotten son.)and belive in Him and that He gave his only begotten son to die for our sins on the cross,and confess our faith in Him, we will be saved and when we die {which evreyone will one day,still no exeptions}we will be allowed into Heaven.

Sin is a word that was created by man. There is no such thing as morals, sin nor guilt. They are as artificial and false as the concept of god itself.

Morals are illusions. Sin is an illusion. If Morals do not exist, neither does sin, therefore your Christian definition of 'wrong' is merely words.

So by your reasoning its ok to murder people? thats a wonderful happy outlook on life /sarcasm off.



sin is not something made by man,you sin when you break God's law,when you murder someone it is a sin,when you steal it is a sin,whenever you do something that is against God's law.
and morals are not illusions,a persons morals is kind of there law,or somethings they dont do,such as murder or steal.

IC: The Federation condemns Dark Terror's violations of individual rights and invites any who wish to claim political persecution to move to the FACS. While the separation of church and state is a central tenet of our society, it goes both ways. As long as an individual does not violate another's rights in the course of his worhip, the individual is free to believe whatever he wishes without fear of government intervention.

IC:
We will auction off some of these prisoners instead of throwing them into gulags if enough naitons show interest.

We'll take every homosexual you have imprisoned at $2000 each. Price is negotiable.

We'll take every homosexual you have imprisoned at $2000 each. Price is negotiable.
This is agreeable to, however we will not provide transportation to your country, and those convicted of crimes (arson, crimes against the state (terrorism basically), etc.) will not be sold. We assure you that they DID recieve fair trials (one of the few rights available to Bisonic citizens). Those who didn't (and got treated a good deal better) can be sold.

We'll take every homosexual you have imprisoned at $2000 each. Price is negotiable.
This is agreeable to, however we will not provide transportation to your country, and those convicted of crimes (arson, crimes against the state (terrorism basically), etc.) will not be sold. We assure you that they DID recieve fair trials (one of the few rights available to Bisonic citizens). Those who didn't (and got treated a good deal better) can be sold.

How much do we owe then? We can provide transport via our Scottish-based territories.

We will pay for half of The Mindsets purchase, as a sign of good will.

OOC: DT you better change your tone very quickly cause once I have the time to post an IC remark your country is toast.OOC: We both have SDI. Sorry, your nukes are useless here.

IC to mindset: Well we have around 3,000 working in the gulags, it is policy to give each persecuted group time to leave Dark Terror and arrest those who don't. THat is acceptable.

Ah.. Getting rid of those troublesome catholics, I see... Most excellent. They have been a torn in the scientist's eye for far too long. We will buy all of the political prisoners you can spare, and use them as test subjects. MUWAHAHAHAHA!

Dr. Diablos the Despot, Emperor of Scientism

We will pay for half of The Mindsets purchase, as a sign of good will.

Many thanks. Do you wish to split the people?

EDIT: $6,000,000 then. Very well, we shall wire my $3,000,000 contribution asap. Continue the good work.

Sure, we can always use more citizens.

Ah.. Getting rid of those troublesome catholics, I see... Most excellent. They have been a torn in the scientist's eye for far too long. We will buy all of the political prisoners you can spare, and use them as test subjects. MUWAHAHAHAHA!

Dr. Diablos the Despot, Emperor of Scientism
Official Response:
Sorry, Dark Terror is not currently interested in selling off dissenters to mad scientists. We can send you convicted murderers, however.

We suoffer 2 bllion dollars in exchange for 2,000,000 persecuted people of any sort.

Yurka would like to purchase your catholics as slave labor. If we buy in bulk can we save some money? :)

Money has been recieved, the said individuals may be picked up at any time by jetliner.

Money has been recieved, the said individuals may be picked up at any time by jetliner.

By whom?

We will buy your convicted criminals. Name your price (per capita). We need about 60 000 of them.

$10,000 per head. We can keep selling you convicted murderers until you get 60,000.

$10,000 per head. We can keep selling you convicted murderers until you get 60,000.

Excellent. We will buy them each month until we have 60 000 and use them for our mad scientific experimensts. MUWAHAHA!

EDIT: Money wired...

Yurka would like to purchase your catholics as slave labor. If we buy in bulk can we save some money? :)
Certainly, although most catholics have fled to Belem during their given 48 hours so we have relatively few left.

How about if i buy 10,000= $100,000,000

Thats pretty steep 8) But if we can't reach a bargain i'll still buy them.

After being denied the right to free the prisoners by the President, General Arthas decided to take matters into his own hands.

"With these four Chinooks we will have room for 40 people....we will need to commandeer a Dark Terror transport. All right, all aboard," Arthas said.
*hours pass, the helicopters are shot down over Dark Terror. The survivors gather*
"damn! we lost all of team 1.....we will need to get transportation."

OOC: DT you better change your tone very quickly cause once I have the time to post an IC remark your country is toast.OOC: We both have SDI. Sorry, your nukes are useless here.

IC to mindset: Well we have around 3,000 working in the gulags, it is policy to give each persecuted group time to leave Dark Terror and arrest those who don't. THat is acceptable.

OOC: there are other ways to deliver nukes then through ICBMs. And why says ill nuke you? I have alot more devious ways to kill you.

OOC: DT you better change your tone very quickly cause once I have the time to post an IC remark your country is toast.OOC: We both have SDI. Sorry, your nukes are useless here.

IC to mindset: Well we have around 3,000 working in the gulags, it is policy to give each persecuted group time to leave Dark Terror and arrest those who don't. THat is acceptable.

OOC: there are other ways to deliver nukes then through ICBMs. And why says ill nuke you? I have alot more devious ways to kill you.
OOC:
And I have lasers mounted on Il-76 transports to down your CM's, as well as SAMs. Borders fully closed so no cuitcase nukes.

Bio and chem weapons, well ages ago we built a system of big fans to blow them the other way right into belem :)

OOC: DT you better change your tone very quickly cause once I have the time to post an IC remark your country is toast.OOC: We both have SDI. Sorry, your nukes are useless here.

IC to mindset: Well we have around 3,000 working in the gulags, it is policy to give each persecuted group time to leave Dark Terror and arrest those who don't. THat is acceptable.

OOC: there are other ways to deliver nukes then through ICBMs. And why says ill nuke you? I have alot more devious ways to kill you.

Never thought I'd see it happen...

Now get out of my thread..

I changed my gulags in my country into a resort area. Funny how no one wants to go though :twisted: ...

OOC: DT if we are going to war its going to be one v one. Otherwise it gets too confusing with too much nonsense.

I changed my gulags in my country into a resort area. Funny how no one wants to go though :twisted: ...

OOC: Anyone want to help me figure out what a gulag is?

IC: We applaud Dark Terror's efforts. Getting rid of the unwanted by auctioning them off to more accepting nations is better than mass genocide.

Gulags == Russia/USSR's form of the Concentration Camp. Anyone sentenced to them was sent to Siberia, an extremely cold part of northern Russia, and forced to work and mine in these conditions. I think 75% died.

The Free Bonstocknian Government condemns the use of gulags by Dark Terror.

---Secret Transmission to Dark Terror---

We have some 400,000 communist prisoners who were sent to do hard labor. With the communist rebellion in Bonstock, we fear these dangerous people could roam free and aid in the revoution in Bonstock proper. We dont have enough bullets to simply execute them. If you want, you can have them. Just dont tell anyone.

The USSS finds this piece of domestic policy even more loathsome and foul than most everything else the government of Dark Terror does, which of course says a great deal. We are also sure that several groups would be most interrested to hear that you are involved in the slave trade of persecuted peoples, as well as wholesale slavery, religious genocide, and the like. Is there no end to this madness?

In the event of a war we would like a piece of this murdering filth.

No SDI is 100% effective. No border is 100% sealed. There is always a way when there is a will and enough creative minds working.

And if we cannot participate, we sincerely hope that the righteous forces of Belem throw your despicable nation unto the ash-heap of history.

Izone would like to buy all of the homosexuals in prison.

OOC:
To belem- never promised you 1v1 did I? Expect to get your head bashed in here
IC:
Secret Transmission to Maropian Coast
400,000 communists? Yep, we'll take them! *Minister of gulags zhirinovsky claps his hands in delight* Assuming they're regular communists and not criminals or terrorists, they'll be sent to our "lenient" gulags, where theyll be kept alive (if just barely), and even get Sundays off! We can always sell them to Soviet Haaregrad as well.
-Transmission ended-

-To Skepticism
Our SDI is redundant several times over, in addition to SDI sattelites we have lasers mounted on Il-76 transport planes, ground-based SDI, and it's linked to Skynet. Sorry, nukes aren't gonna work here, not in the cruise missile or ICBM modes anyways (OOC: Belem, its the same SDI as yours, basically what you shoot up can be shot right back down.). Our borders with Belem ARE 100% closed, and we are moving 3 Motorized divisions to guard the Ardorian border in case you try to sneak in. If you didnt know, were landlocked. You could try swimming up the Burnel river, and get devoured by wildlife in the process or blown to hell by a patrol boat. You can try to hide on a truck and watch us gun it down after the thermal imaging devices detect something. You can even try to fly in on some tiny helicopter, and be given a free demonstration of how AWACS use look-down radar. Remember, we gave our catholics 48 hours to leave, as we did to homosexuals and communists. Those who stayed were promptly arrested.

-To Izone
Sorry, we have already sold them to The Mindset.

OOC:
To belem- never promised you 1v1 did I? Expect to get your head bashed in here
IC:
Secret Transmission to Maropian Coast
400,000 communists? Yep, we'll take them! *Minister of gulags zhirinovsky claps his hands in delight* Assuming they're regular communists and not criminals or terrorists, they'll be sent to our "lenient" gulags, where theyll be kept alive (if just barely), and even get Sundays off! We can always sell them to Soviet Haaregrad as well.
-Transmission ended-

-To Skepticism
Our SDI is redundant several times over, in addition to SDI sattelites we have lasers mounted on Il-76 transport planes, ground-based SDI, and it's linked to Skynet. Sorry, nukes aren't gonna work here, not in the cruise missile or ICBM modes anyways (OOC: Belem, its the same SDI as yours, basically what you shoot up can be shot right back down.). Our borders with Belem ARE 100% closed, and we are moving 3 Motorized divisions to guard the Ardorian border in case you try to sneak in. If you didnt know, were landlocked. You could try swimming up the Burnel river, and get devoured by wildlife in the process or blown to hell by a patrol boat. You can try to hide on a truck and watch us gun it down after the thermal imaging devices detect something. You can even try to fly in on some tiny helicopter, and be given a free demonstration of how AWACS use look-down radar. Remember, we gave our catholics 48 hours to leave, as we did to homosexuals and communists. Those who stayed were promptly arrested.

-To Izone
Sorry, we have already sold them to The Mindset.

To DT:

Are there any unwanted people remaining? We'll buy em wholesale, then sell them broken up at a bit higher price to get some profits.

To DT:

Are there any unwanted people remaining? We'll buy em wholesale, then sell them broken up at a bit higher price to get some profits.
Hmm, we can sell you our oh... nazis for $5,000 a head.