USSR allegedly to invade The Soviet Union
New Labor
07-11-2003, 04:40
I am seeking counsel of experienced nations willing to help our small, humanitarian, intellectual haven of peace and Love in these trying times, while the USSR proceeds to stick its massive Bear's paw into our territory and terrorize us and rape our women.
IF anyone has a vendetta against the USSR, let us unite. As tenions build, let us form entangled alliances to ensure prosperity for the future.
~ The Soviet Socialist Republic of New Labor
[Советская Социалистическая Республика Нового Труда]
The Macabees
07-11-2003, 04:47
Please give more information.
ditto. and we'd like to hear from the USSR, too.
We plan to rape their women? Destroy them and burn them to the ground? This is nothing but a call for help after many a kind word from our nation to ask them to stop their insults and degrading to our honor. We are a militarian nation, and this hurts us dearly. We shall not sit and be insulted again and again, even when asked nicely!
We shall not!
I ask you to refrain from this combat, for it involves the USSR and the Soviet Union only. Good day you, talk to RC in the USSR for further details on our (so very biased and evil side, as it is to be called soon)
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-The MSSK Floods an attack on The Soviet Union-
Before war was declared, within the central bunker headquarters of the MUSK command, Comrade General Kov stated his final words to his troops.
“We have stood at attention and full militarization against man foreign aggressor: The Germans, the Alericans, the Nazis, FGP, and now, our own blood. Not to long ago we gathered at the same positions we are at now to prepare for an eminent attack from Germany; we never pulled our forces down. Now, after repeated insults, acting on our own behalf, and with the honor of our free nation at hand, we shall attack and invade the Soviet Union. Communist or whatever system they have, it shall fall beneath the weight of our fully mobilized armies. Their streets will poor with the blood of their fleeing soldiers, the skies will be dark with the stench of fire, and we will see the rivers turn red with their leaders lives. We shall stand for no insult any longer, may this be a message to the world!
Saila Comrades! Saila! Have no mercy, and do not stop until you reach their farthest cost. Soldiers, Citizens, Soldiers, it starts!”
Shouts of “Saila” echoed throughout the MUSK for fifteen minutes, until the official declaration of war was declared.
The artificial thunder of 872,000 150cm LR-RAS (Long Ranged Rail Artillery Systems) lit up the sky to the brightness of day, illuminating the pouring tank coulombs over the landscape of the MSSK. Loaded with 125 ton incinerary shells, and capable of a rate of fire of four shells a minute, the artillery systems, nestled deep within the womb of the MSSK, opened full and undistracted fire on all Soviet capitals, large cities, and military installations. Artillery director, Alexi Maxanovich, estimated fire to be done within three days, most likely leaving most of the Soviet Union’s cities as massive infernos.
While the fire was kept up, supported by entrenched MSSK anti air systems and combat air patrols, the main land divisions positioned themselves for attack and quick advance. The eight MSSK blood armies, 125 million strong each, where assigned to invade the following nations:
First Blood Army: The Soviet Socialist Republic of New Labor
Second Blood Army: The Commonwealth of Trotskyism, The Principality of Twincest
Third Blood Army: The Communistic Anarchies of Pessimisticia, The People's Republic of ExistenceBeforeEssence, The Sultanate of Ukraine SSR
Fourth Blood Army: The United Socialist States of Trotskyia, The Armed Republic of Necaria, The United Socialist States of Sozialist Russiya, The Commonwealth of Everyonesucks
Fifth Blood Army: The People's Republic of Russia SSR, The United Socialist States of Trotskyia, The Principality of Twincest
Sixth Blood Army: The Soviet Socialist Republic of New Labor, The Commonwealth of Trotskyism
Seventh Blood Army: The Sultanate of Ukraine SSR, The Commonwealth of Everyonesucks
Eight Blood Army: Rear flank support
Each blood army is 125 million men strong, divided into infantry battalions of 40 Million men, and supported by 2.5 Million men in 4200 Bmp3 offensive systems for each 5 million soldiers. The main tank column consists of 35 million men in 11,000,000 MSSK MBRT-120s, 700,000 of which are the MSSK HMBRT-210s. Tanks are supported by an array of 10 Million conjoined air assets (C-130 Hercules, C-141 Starlifters. 185 CN-12 Cubs) and an artillery brigade of 10 Million men in various artillery assets, most of which include MSSK MRAS-80s. 10 Million more are repositioned in anti air SAM deposits (mobile)
Blood armies are to take out strategic assets, civilian targets of choice, and kill political leaders. Once moral is destroyed, are to pull out. Refugees and prisoners are not to be taken, but will not be killed or shot.
The main USSK general, Kov Neveravonicich personally is commanding the First blood army, and wishes to attain the head of the soviet leader. Estimated time for full success:
–one month
The incinerary artillery is expected to result in the most casualties, taking most civilians and military alike with it. Atomics are not to be used, but if launched, the incinerary shells will be replaced with 200KT atomics.
All nations not part of this are asked to stay out, unless direct allies of either nation. The MSSK will NOT stand for insults and tyranny any longer. May the deaths of your soldiers be quick and painless.
-MSSK Satellites Strike-
MSSK Space warfare director, Admiral Adrien Chestoy has reported that MSSK killer satellites have targeted Soviet military and civilian satellites. A total of twenty satellite attacks are reported, the status of the attacks is unknown at this time, but is in effect an attempt to destroy and possibly of atomic counterattack,
Nonetheless deep inside the MSSK bunker cities, civilians of non military nature sit and wait, what will the verdict of the enemy be, how will life be, and what does the future hold?
ATAS (Anti-Terror Army Space) has wanted to know why this invasion is wanted. No answer? Well... Expect maybe Nukes?
I reason was listed to your knowladge, please read the posts if you so wish. This invasion was called by the Soviets after much talk. I sujest your refrain form your actions (presuming a nation your size even has atomics, no inuslt intended) but it would be most unfortunate to drag the USSR into this mess with all her allies.
None the less if you wish to attack us, our soldiers will gladly try the blood of your men and women for taste.
Manchester-Dalton
07-11-2003, 06:24
Premier speaking on television before the air force and the country. "Tonight, I address you men as our heroes, your country will be grateful for what you are about to do. As of tonight, a war has begun, a war that shall bring the Soviet Union their swift judgement. Nations are compelled to go to war for reasons they see just and now I and all of Manchester-Dalton formally declare war on the region of the Soviet Union. As a former pilot, I am willing to say to you young, brave men do your country proud and light the fires and kick the tires."
(Crowd applauds)
"Fighters are scrambling to divert all attacks if they come, all SU-35s, SU-37s, and MiG-25s are launching, sir," says a young corporal. " Good, we have got approval just now to send up our newest fighter by the premier, the SU-47 Berkut. They are ordered to be on the defensive."
B-52s, TU-160s, and B-1 Lancers are arriving over New Labor's capital with MiG-29 Fulcrum escorts. "Well, it is good we are flying in conjunction with Kov's GPS and at such a high altitude, that is a fireworks show down there," says young pilot Vladimir Kuva, "Target is the government buildings, let's light 'em" Bomb bay doors open. MiG-29's start jamming SAMs. "Bombs away," is echoed over the radio several times.
"Waiting for confirmation, all bombers start orbit," shouts Colonel Marko Volsak, "Bombs hit, can't tell how much damage is done, we'll save that for the U-2s. Let's leave and keep strict radio silence."
ZNN-FN -- Breaking News
[ A young, inexperienced anchor sits behind the newsdesk ]
Moments ago, an aide to President Emonsha has announced a series of travel warnings to all countries in the regions of the USSR and the Soviet union, citing the recent outbreak of violence in the areas. Also, all nearby military installations are having their alert level lowered so as not to give the impression that Zeltec wants to become in any way involved in the conflict.
While it is as yet unclear what(if any) effects the war will have on Zeltec's economy, this newsstation will be sure to keep a watch on any developments which could potentially effect Zeltec's business interests in the area.
In the sea not far from the conflict, 5 submarines armed with 4 long range cruise missiles each, another with 6, and 1 armed with 8 surface and launch their weapons. 1 submarine armed with 10 cruise missiles, and another carrying 32 of which 8 can be launched at a time fire their payloads from beneath the waves. The missiles are carrying heavyweight high-explosive warheads. All but one of the submarines quickly leave after firing, and a few attack subs will be coming to patrol soon. The submarine that remains has only launched it's first wave, and has 24 cruise missiles (or 3 strikes worth) remaining. It will remain in the depths for several more hours, providing fire-support with it's missiles.
New Labor
07-11-2003, 09:10
Friday, 7 November 2003
IN HONOR OF THE 76th ANNIVERSARY OF THE GREAT BOLSHEVIK REVOLUTION OF 1917, THE SS. KROPOTKIN HAS FIRED 76 BLANKS ON THE LAVISH PALACES OF THE USSR MINISTRY OF DEFENSE [because this ministry happens to stand undefended near open seas] AS A TESTAMENT OF THE BATTLE THAT IS TO COME.
WE MAY BE SMALL, BUT OUR SPIRITS ARE NOBLE AND CLEAN, WHEREAS YOU ARE FAT, STALINIST SWINE. YOU HAVE NUMBERS AND FORCE, WE HAVE INTELLIGENCE.
OUR CHEMICAL STOCKPILES HAVE BEEN REINSPECTED and READIED. THE LABORATORIES OF THE USSR LIE IN DISREPAIR WITH 19th CENTURY TECHNOLOGY.
THE SOVIET POPULACE HAS BEEN READIED WITH IMMUNOLOGICAL DEFENSE AGAINST THE GASES TO BE RELEASED UPON YOUR DRUNKEN ARMIES.
NEVER FORGET THE STORY OF THE LION AND THE MOUSE.
Trotskyism
07-11-2003, 10:47
I reason was listed to your knowladge, please read the posts if you so wish. This invasion was called by the Soviets after much talk. I sujest your refrain form your actions (presuming a nation your size even has atomics, no inuslt intended) but it would be most unfortunate to drag the USSR into this mess with all her allies.
None the less if you wish to attack us, our soldiers will gladly try the blood of your men and women for taste.
When did The Soviet Union call this war "after much talk". Let's see some proof.
That's funny when you say that you have intelligenge, because you aren't even smart eought to know that it's the 86th anneversary of the Great October Revolution of 1917.
2003
-1917
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= 86
Five Civilized Nations
07-11-2003, 17:23
The Five Civilized Nations will be watching this war closely, very, very closely...
"When did The Soviet Union call this war "after much talk". Let's see some proof."
I cannot take back time, I asked, I warned, no replys. This is of little concern.
"The Five Civilized Nations will be watching this war closely, very, very closely..."
It will honor our soldiers so to see their sucesses folowed by other nations. Please, if you have issues, go and talk to RC reguarding the issues. I am here for personal honor and diliberation.
Attack the USSR, kill our citizens, we do not care. The MSSK is Militarian, we live in bunkers, we are almost all soldiers, we are ready for anything. Bring on your chemical weapons, our tanks will care less, our bunkers even more so, and our troops will simply start useing gasmasks from now on.
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Unit advancement status reports:
After several consecutive days of 150CM LR-RAS bombardments, the MSSK has stopped the continuous barrage to assess damages inflicted. Before them burn the vast cities of the USSR, many fully engulfed in touring flames, others suffering only regional fires, which the MSSK hopes will spread to the rest of the cities.
Blood Armies 1,2,4, and 5 have met resistance outside of strategic installations, but generals state that:
“Their freebirth troops are under trained, under equipped, and under armed. We have both numbers and technology, resistance should be subdued shortly.
All remaining blood armies have reported major victories and are soon to disable the burning capital cities.
The fourth blood army reports that The United Socialist States of Sozialist Russiya, and The Commonwealth of Everyonesucks, are soon to fall under the sheer numbers of the MSSK war machine.
MSSK casualty reported:
Infantry- 120,000 Wounded, 23,000 Killed
Bmps: 23 Tanks destroyed
Tank Coulombs: 112,000 Tanks damaged, destroyed, or under repair
No other casualties reported or known at this time. Estimates on enemy casualties are unknown at this time; the infernos of the soviet union make estimates far to unpredictable. Expert analysts however estimate that at least two billion civilians and soldiers, a headcount that is unknown, have been killed souly by the artillery barrage. Civilian casualties are though to account for most of the casualties.
OOC: Kov how can the casualties be at least 2 billion? :roll:
Isles of Wohlstand
07-11-2003, 20:21
Kov: I am in USSR as well, and if you need another armor, i wil put my 64,200,000 soldiers/support into action for full fledged war. Also, I will be able to put up my anti-ICBM system to protect all of USSR if you wish to ask me to.
“OOC: Kov how can the casualties be at least 2 billion?”
Easy math, all nations of the Soviet Union combined= much more that 2 Billion, most living in the major cities
872,000 150cm LR-RAS (Long Ranged Rail Artillery Systems), shooting 1 shell every 15 seconds
That is 2,511,360,000 shells for every 12-hour bombardment period, using 125-ton incinerary shells targeting all major cities in the Soviet Union. Figuring that the soviet leaders did not pool anyone out, and several large cities added together would more than likely add up to my estimated kill amount, and considering the incinarary shells are intended to turn the cities into fireballs rather than detonate anything, it is probable that at least two billion people would be killed in the nonevacuated cities of the enemy.
:roll:
Isles of Wohlstand
07-11-2003, 22:26
Hessinger:"Put all battalions on full standby and tell the Wohlstand Defense Ministry to put up our Missle Defence Network. Also prepare our satellites for counter measures, as well as our ICBMs. If they want missles, they got them. And if they want their missles to hit Wohlstand, they don't get that."
Roe:"Sir yes sir. You heard them, disperse, and carry out the orders"
*Within a matter of minutes the communications are sent through, via satellite relay, to all Military Stations in Wohlstand, also. The borders of Wohlstand are now sealed and only opened to military of Wohlstand or it's allies. Wohlstand is on Red Alert Status, and ready for missles of all sorts.*
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Comrade Alexei Hessinger
National Military Commander of the People's Republic of Wohlstand
First Congress of the Wohlstand Socialist Labor Party.
"When you kill a man, the only thing you should feel is the recoil"
New Labor
07-11-2003, 23:48
Please note, your missiles whizzing by the 25-foot-thick plexiglass dome erected over New Labor SSR [Formerly DRNL] form cracks and dents, but not much more. Our outer regions, devoid of people and weapons-manufacturing sites, have been substantially damaged by your force, but this has yet to reflect in our economies - I doubt it will.
We are a peaceful land - We've little offense [save for 3 Hydrogen bombs, which, if strategically deployed, can root out your infrastructure and cause a downward spiral of bureacratic cackling which will cause you to run around like chickens without their heads, as your dictatorial regime will have plummeted violently to anarchic tumult] but our defensive plexiglass domes and missile shields, products of the minds born of our Liberal Academic institutions, shall make this battle long and pointless. Wasting your precious missiles is a futile act. Try to use your head instead of your sword. Your bear-like force has thus removed approximately 10% of our lands, with insignificant casualties. The core of the Soviet Union is now up for grabs, if you can penetrate us, and our network of underground burrows in which Partisan warfare shall ensue.
~ NLSSR ~
New Labor
08-11-2003, 00:01
On the outskirts of RedCommunist and MSSK, 86 Factions of the NOIRetROUGE People's Army has been released, in the guise of your own grotesque civilians.
In the first seven hours
The capital of RC, so assured in its might and infallibility, has fallen victim to 4 cataclismic events.
1. Metropolitan railways and suburban rail systems have been damaged and de-electrified, as has 25% of the capital.
2. Water supplies for the two capitals have been contaminated with a posionous substance, raising acidity of the major reservoirs to 4.2. Linkage systems in the distant pipelines of the suburbs have eroded to disrepair, and currently 45% of the outskirts of the major metro regions remain without electricity and/or water supply.
3. The plentiful brothels of MSSK and RC have been visited by NOIRetROUGE units infected with HepatitisB and Bubonic, pneumonic, and Septisemic forms of Yersinia Pestis, the latter having been transmitted through alcoholic beverages. One faction of NetR has gained access to a beer brewery with the Pestis strain; their accomplishments are not yet known.
4. 12 Factions of the NetR have set fire to the forests on the Eastern USSR. 1,300 square miles are engulfed in flame at the moment.
~ Central Committe of the Soviet Union ~
~ Ministry of The People's Warfare ~
The MSSK will not be stoped by some 25 foot plexi glass dome over some of your important structures. We use no missiles, and even considering if our 150cm LR-RAS do not do the trick of puncturing the domes, our tanks will do an easy job of it once they get there.
The streets will be filled with your leaders blood soon enough, insult as you wish, but you shall fall. I will not be surprized to see your entire region fall to the MSSK.
OOC: "The plentiful brothels of MSSK", do reasrch on a militarian society, then tell me about weather I have brothels, freebirth.
Furthermore, tell me how your massive army, which has no name or numbers, mas majicaly surpassed a invasion force of a billion men?
None the less, we wait for another such strike, then full assault of your lands may commence. Our armys are on your lands as it is, we can care less if we burn every one of your damned facist cities to the ground. Let it be known, the 150cm LR-RAS have been aimed and loaded.
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Bilogical strike on MUSSK casulaties:
120,000 Civilians, 10,000 military, one million cats which where outside of their bunkers during the attack. Full level 3 contamination warrnings have been issued, more "Fantacy" attacks are expected.
imported_Xiaguo
08-11-2003, 01:11
Yes, nearly impossible.
Tell me about it, and you are not even in my region.
The Kaisers Envoy
08-11-2003, 01:53
His Imperial Majesty the Emperor and Delegate of Germany declares his disapproval of such invasion by the USSR. The USSR has been increasingly militaristic recently and seems to be pursuing violent means to protect their isolated interests, much to the chagrin of associated regions.
25 foot thick plexi-glass could be broken by a shell, let alone a nuclear warhead. And just suddenly doing all that poisoning and sabotage to Kov is getting close to GodModing.
Greetings Comrades,
We, the Proletariat Horde of Vodka Loving Slavs have as a last resort brought out our most deadly weapon of mass destruction: the mighty People’s Ignore Cannon. In the meanwhile we will be laughing as a billion soldier invasion blitzes the Soviet Union at a rate of one inch per day, suffering millions of casualties daily due to an inability to keep it supplied, equipped, or housed. That or die in the crush against the plexi-glass, we’re just not sure. We now return to our regularly scheduled consumption of vodka. Except of course for our valiant troops vigilantly manning the mighty People’s Ignore Cannon.
The People’s Elite Forces have also caused several trains to be late in the USSR and reset RedCommunists leader’s alarm clock. A great victory for the true Communists!
Premier Lafski
Proletariat Horde of Vodka Loving Slavs
“RedCommunist a Capitalist! There really is no proof in bourgeoisie advertising. I’ve also heard that the leader of RedCommunist drinks soda pop and scorns the People’s Vodka! Shame.”
Germany, this is a battle between me and the soviet union. Weather or not you aprove of it is another matter. However, as any true person, you must honor our choice to go into combat against a nation that we had warned about invasion, asked to shut up, and tried to calm down.
We will not! I repeat, will not, stand for such disshonor!
Trotskyia
08-11-2003, 03:46
However, as any true person, you must honor our choice to go into combat against a nation that we had warned about invasion, asked to shut up, and tried to calm down.
You mean censored, insulted, and unreasonably attacked?
Manchester-Dalton
08-11-2003, 04:38
"The U-2 confirmed the damage, sir," says a young private, " Damage is total. None of the Target buildings escaped. All bombs hit correctly without any strays. The Red Rocket satellite has doubly confirmed the damage," says General Nikolayev Sitski. "We have obtained pictures this morning from the Red Rocket satellite that these domes just popped up overnight. We believe them to be Plexiglass," says the young private. "Plexiglass! That may get cracked or chipped by artillery but to a direct overhead strike it will collapse. Scramble escorts and bombers we'll take this nuisance out!" "Yes, sir!" says the private.
Over loudspeakers at certain Manchester-Dalton airbases, " All T-160, B-52,MiG-29, and Bear Bombers take off A.S.A.P. You will be given coordinates and your objectives." Your planes are ready, all MiG-29s are equipped with 4 Amos missiles, 2 Atoll heat-seeking missiles, and 2 Alamo missiles. B-52s, T-160s, and Bear Bombers are equipped with bunker busters, Daisycutters, and Massive Ordinance Air Blast bombs."
Later...
"We are over the target, MiG-29s are jamming, open the bomb doors," says Colonol Volsak, "Drop 'em!" The bombs glide down bunker busters first, they penetrate 23 feet. 2 feet is untouched. The Daisycutters and MOAB's get to their predetermined detonation altitude. They explode creating an intense downward pressure that shatters the dome, then the suction takes over and pulls apart the dome. "Direct hit! It shattered! Let's egress safely and quitely and let Kov deal with the people on the ground," says Colonel Volsak.
Later after bombing...
"The planes are arriving sir," says the young private. "Well, let's play our national anthem for them over the speaker," say General Nikolayev Sitski. Gimn Sovetskogo Soyuza plays over loudspeakers. "Ah. How I love that music," says the general.
"You mean censored, insulted, and unreasonably attacked?"
I have stated my argument, I need not say it again.
Pessimisticia
08-11-2003, 05:26
Ahem, OOC: Maybe it's just me, but saying "I've stated my arguement, and need not say it again." to something that completely voids your own arguement sounds like a sissy way out.
Or did you really defend yourself against that whole deal with not allowing us to assemble, peacefully, in your region to argue, insulted our intelligence, and then went off on how we "invaded" your territory, and commited acts of war upon us?
IC: Comrade P. Essimist issued a message out to Kov earlier today.
"You resemble the smell of my gym socks after a day of running in P.E."
New Labor
08-11-2003, 06:07
From the Central Committee
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The dyslexically relayed allegations by MSSK in regards to their plentiful missiles' capability of penetrating our 25-foot-thick Domes of Peace are as absurd and bland as RC's sense of humor. Nothing short of exponential neutron fissioning ON CONTACT with our domes could cause any serious damage.
The domes's peripheral bases recede 150 feet into the ground and are weighted with a concrete ring. Internal support of the domes includes an umbrella-like skeleton consisting of hinged steel, reinforced with a thick, flame resistant foam-resin goop to prevent melting upon the unlikely event that the dome is disrupted.
Inside is a fully functioning greenhouse running on solar power and decomposing hemp, capable of sustaining a population of 1.5 billion for three years without major re-fueling.
Note that leveling these domes with tanks is foolish. The no-mans land surrounding the entire Soviet Union is full of mines exploding in blinding clouds of Methylisocyanate gas, which condenses upon contact with the air upon the irregular surfaces of tanks and contaminates via timely evaporation by seeping into any available crevices.
BREAKING NEWS
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The NOIRetROUGE Faction no.66 has organized a resistance in the Eastern Soviet Union, in a forgotten, dilapidated region suffering from poverty. A peasants' rebellion has been mobilized. Although physical damage will be sparse, such an event is likely to turn the populace of the USSR against its disgruntled despots, and towards the shimmering wheat fields of the Soviet Union.
MSSK, your 1 billion drones shall tire like M. Bonaparte's army into the Russian Funnel. They will spread and grow ill, and will defect to the Soviet Union. They will fall in love with our irresistible maidens with their long braids, and mixed African and Caucasian features. They will gather in our numerous Burlesque Houses, Poetry Cafes, art Galleries and Night Clubs, where they will be persuaded to partake in our fine assortment of Cocaine and Brandies, harvested with the toil of the proletariat from our grape fields, which rustle in the winds with a soft rustling which brings a pleasant pain into the heart of anyone who is half-human. Your industrial/meatpacking/military complex shall be left behind, only a small percentage of your population remaining, the women and children dissatisfied with your administration, shall storm your barracks with rakes and crude sticks and shall tear out your eyes. You shall fall. It takes strategy to engage in warfare. So far we have only deployed 5 thousand People's Army fighters into your territories, and they have caused serious damage with a small budget and the confidence and steadfastness of a wet rat in the subways, dodging past obstacles, jumping over the electrified rail.
Do not forget that famous Movie Theatre disaster of the 1920s; Hundreds of people stormed forth in panic and determination............but all it took is three sets of rotating doors to crush them into a pinkish pulp.
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The Central Committee of New Labor is taking the Sabbath on Friday-Saturday, until sunset Eastern Time.
Daamfeck
08-11-2003, 06:51
--Communications jam everywhere as this message suddenly begins appearing on screens, startling bleary-eyed Soviet programmers and lighting dark rooms with eerie green text; a voice booms out of speakers in military stations accross the war zone; telegrams are garbled up and converted to the following.--
"Although only a small nation, the People's Republic of Da'amfeck sees fit to hereby notify commanders of both sides in this conflict that our troops are ready to drop into the warzone from Interdimensional space in order to maintain peace and stability in those regions which are not currently involved in the war going on at this moment in time. Our troops are not involved in the war and merely wish to keep the peace in areas which have lost central control but are not in the middle of the fighting. If troops from either side fire at Da'amfeckian troops they shall be destroyed instantly. This is a message from the Da'amfeckian people, who hereby pledge their strength to the cause of equality and peace for good Socialist people.
All hail to the great Marx, and peace be with you, comrades."
--Communication goes back online. Officers scramble to see how their carefully protected systems were breached so easily.
Da'amfeckian dropships appear four or five hundred feet in the air with a flash of blue light and begin descending on pillars of dancing light. --
No plexiglass can withstand any nuclear device...
In response to the attack on Kov with Bio/Chemical weapons, another wave of 26 cruise missiles were launched from a few of our submarines against unguarded and lightly guarded targets in the Soviet Union. 20 of the missiles were carrying normal HE warheads, 2 carry high capacity incendiary warheads, 2 carry Sarin gas, and the other 2 carry VX nerve agent.
Manchester-Dalton
09-11-2003, 04:29
Plexiglass, cannot deflect a missile that can fly through concrete and ground that is 38 feet thick. Also, the extreme pressure downward from Daisycutters and MOABs would cause massive fracture. The MOABs and Daisycutters created massive overpressurization (fracturing of Plexiglass) at first, then massive underpressurization (suction of Plexiglass into air) occured. Here is info on Daisycutter:
The BLU-82B/C-130 weapon system, nicknamed Commando Vault in Vietnam and Daisy Cutter in Afghanistan, is a high altitude delivery of 15,000 pound conventional bomb, delivered from an C-130 since it is far too heavy for the bomb racks on any bomber or attack aircraft. Originally designed to create an instant clearing in the jungle, it has been used in Afghanistan as an anti-personnel weapon and as an intimidation weapon because of its very large lethal radius (variously reported as 300-900 feet) combined with flash and sound visible at long distances. It is the largest conventional bomb in existence but is less than one thousandth the power of the Hiroshima nuclear bomb.
Frequent press reports to the contrary, the Daisy Cutter is not a fuel-air explosive (FAE). It is a conventional explosive incorporating both agent and oxidizer. In contrast, an FAE consists only of agent and a dispersing mechanism, and takes its oxidizer from the oxygen in the air. FAEs generally run between 500 and 2000 pounds; it would be difficult to make an FAE the size of Daisy Cutter because the correct uniform mixture of agent with ambient air would be difficult to maintain if the agent were so widely dispersed. Thus, the conventional explosive technique of Daisy Cutter is more reliable than that of an FAE, particularly if there is significant wind or thermal gradient.
This system depends upon the accurate positioning of the aircraft by either a fixed ground radar or onboard navigation equipment. The ground radar controller, or aircrew navigator as applicable, is responsible for positioning the aircraft prior to final countdown and release. Primary aircrew considerations include accurate ballistic and wind computations provided by the navigator, and precision instrument flying with strict adherence to controller instructions. The minimum altitude for release due to blast effects of the weapon is 6,000 feet AGL. The BLU-82 was originally designed to clear helicopter landing zones and artillery emplacements in Vietnam. The warhead contains 12,600 pounds of low-cost GSX slurry (ammonium nitrate, aluminum powder, and polystyrene) and is detonated just above ground level by a 38-inch fuze extender, optimized for destruction and ground level without digging a crater. The weapon produces an overpressure of 1000 psi [pounds per square inch] near ground zero, tapering off as distance increases.
Don't believe it go to www.fas.org search for BLU-82 under conventional weapons under U.S. dumb bombs.
*I extremely doubt Plexiglass will stand against these.*
MOAB
MOAB, privately known in military circles as "the mother of all bombs," has been under development since late last year. The bomb carries 18,000 pounds of tritonal explosives, which have an indefinite shelf life. It replaces the Vietnam-era "Daisy Cutter," a 15,000-pound bomb with 12,600 pounds of the less-powerful GSX explosives.
As originally conceived, the MOAB was to be used against large formations of troops and equipment or hardened above-ground bunkers. The target set has also been expanded to include deeply buried targets.
The MOAB is deployed on a pallet from a C-130 aircraft. It initially has a parachute, but as it deploys, the Inertial Navigation System and Global Positioning System take over. The bomb also has wings and grid fins for guidance.
Don't believe it go to www.cnn.com/2003/US/03/11/sprj.irq.moab.
RedCommunist
10-11-2003, 03:44
OOC:
Please note, your missiles whizzing by the 25-foot-thick plexiglass dome erected over New Labor SSR
WTF? That is godmodding right there.
On the outskirts of RedCommunist and MSSK, 86 Factions of the NOIRetROUGE People's Army has been released, in the guise of your own grotesque civilians.
In the first seven hours
The capital of RC, so assured in its might and infallibility, has fallen victim to 4 cataclismic events.
1. Metropolitan railways and suburban rail systems have been damaged and de-electrified, as has 25% of the capital.
2. Water supplies for the two capitals have been contaminated with a posionous substance, raising acidity of the major reservoirs to 4.2. Linkage systems in the distant pipelines of the suburbs have eroded to disrepair, and currently 45% of the outskirts of the major metro regions remain without electricity and/or water supply.
3. The plentiful brothels of MSSK and RC have been visited by NOIRetROUGE units infected with HepatitisB and Bubonic, pneumonic, and Septisemic forms of Yersinia Pestis, the latter having been transmitted through alcoholic beverages. One faction of NetR has gained access to a beer brewery with the Pestis strain; their accomplishments are not yet known.
4. 12 Factions of the NetR have set fire to the forests on the Eastern USSR. 1,300 square miles are engulfed in flame at the moment.
~ Central Committe of the Soviet Union ~
~ Ministry of The People's Warfare ~
Do you know how to RP? You can't RP someone and not have them even be in town! I was out of town, so all attacks on me were void. Sorry. I am alive now and you can repost it. Now keep in mind you are godmodding and on that account I can say no cause it is cheap. Also you can't do several things in a row. It would have to work like this.
NL: I let out 25 fractions of *** armies on RedCommunist and Kov.
RC &/or Kov: We were unprepared -or- Our armies use mustard gas on your approching forces, and trench warfare commenses. National Guard troops are at key locations in every Kov/RC city and we stop all terrorist events.
NL: We destroy your rail systems and suburban rail systems. 25% of the capital is without power. *OR* Our forces are forces to retreat and many are dead, though several bombs were planted in power plants which took out 25% of the capitals power.
RC &/or Kov: Our back up generators are online now, and power is restored. Our forces are in hot pursuit of your men. *OR* We took great losses and will stay back to defend the city, power is still offline but our men are working on it.
See the pattern, one must allow your actions to follow through.
Now to Everyone: The reason this war is happening is since TSU *The Soviet Union* invaded USSR. they keep getting into our affairs and insulting our nations. So when I told them if they come back it will be seen as an invasion, and they came back *which I ejected and banned NL and Pess* it was an invasion. The USSR went into an Offensive Defense and pushed into TSU, the weaker of the two. So either stay out and be safe, side with USSR and be safe, or side with TSU and be killed.
IN: TSU has asked for a cease-fire. The USSR will only accept under the agreement to stop getting involved in our regional affairs and leave us alone.
RedCommunist
10-11-2003, 04:27
USSRN: RedCommunist's President Vanik has issues an ultimatum to The Soviet Union saying that they must surrender by Tuesday or face complete military invasion and military dictatorship by USSR. With surrender the USSR will set free The Soviet Union but some terms will have to be meet.
On a side note, today RedCommunist Army bombers started to fly missions on The Soviet Union's SAM sites and Artillery locations. TO add to this B-2 Bombers are in the airs over the Soviet Union 24/7, only heading back for fueling and a new crew, waiting for the words to drop their lethal cargo onto The Soviet Union if they choose not to surrender.
Pessimisticia
10-11-2003, 04:57
So, whenever did we agree to any surrender? I remember a cease-fire, but nothing about surrender. You even agreed over telegram, which more or less voids your demand.
And your own region has poor support. The majority of active nations are clearly against it. I doubt the number of willing nations even exceeds our own sparse number of members.
Manchester-Dalton
10-11-2003, 05:18
"Sir, New Labor's Capital is in ruins. Massive fires have broke out. The Red Rocket Satellite confirms fires are being contained by firebreaks and waterlines," says Igor Vashint, a young Major. " We will strike these firebreaks and waterlines. I say napalm bombs are in order, wouldn't you Major?", says General Pivilsk. "Yes sir, we should also strike the oil pipelines," says the Major. "Yes, ready the MiG-29s, the Bear Bombers, and the B-1 Lancers. The TU-160s and B-52s will sit this one out."
Later on runway...
"Colonel Volsak, you are cleared for takeoff, lead them out," says the Air Traffic Controller, "Be advised Kov is shooting artillery. We are working in conjunction with his GPS and you are to fly high, except for our wild weasels which will dive at the marked time and position." "Yes, sir," says the Colonel.
"There are the target firebreaks, pipelines, and water lines. All bombers switch to napalm tanks. MiG-29s start jamming and 5 of you are to break off for your new objective. It is to take out the local SAMs on my mark. (pause) Start Wild Weasels!," says Colonel Volsak.
The MiGs dive for the dirt, they are flying hard and fast.
"Missiles are hot, target is acquired, firing..." the 5 pilots say in order of rank. The missiles speed towards the SAMs, the SAM controllers notice but it is too late, to them the last they see is a red sky.
"SAMs are destroyed, regaining altitude," says the lead pilot of the five. "All bombers drop your bombs," says the Colonel.
The bombs gyrospin as they fly downwards to their targets, they impact, allowing the already raging fires to devour the land beyond the waterlines and firebreaks, black clouds rise over where oil pipelines used to be.
"Congratulations all, let's go home," says the Colonel
RedCommunist
10-11-2003, 05:26
So, whenever did we agree to any surrender? I remember a cease-fire, but nothing about surrender. You even agreed over telegram, which more or less voids your demand.
And your own region has poor support. The majority of active nations are clearly against it. I doubt the number of willing nations even exceeds our own sparse number of members.
We never agreed to a cease-fire. I gave you the terms in order for a discussion of a cease-fire. Also we didn't agree to surrender, I gace the option of it.
“Ahem, OOC: Maybe it's just me, but saying "I've stated my arguement, and need not say it again." to something that completely voids your own arguement sounds like a sissy way out.
Or did you really defend yourself against that whole deal with not allowing us to assemble, peacefully, in your region to argue, insulted our intelligence, and then went off on how we "invaded" your territory, and commited acts of war upon us?
IC: Comrade P. Essimist issued a message out to Kov earlier today.
"You resemble the smell of my gym socks after a day of running in P.E."
I stand still on my argument, you where warned to stop fruitful insults several times; I took the action I stated many a time. Your fault is not mine to discuss, we will be dishonored.
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OOC: Note that the “Domes” have been destroyed. I am disregarding the statements about mines, considering that you claim to be “peaceful” nations with little of an army. Furthermore, most would have been cleared by now by the initial bombardments on your regions. I am also disregarding any space born enemies, them out of your era.
After some fairly light resistance, the armies of the Soviet Union oddly non mobilized to meet our military, MSSK high command has a stall of forces, mainly for the long awaited 150CM-LR-RAS counter barrage. The artillery, which is blamed for the many burning cities and dead people, had been ordered to stand down when the main armor went in. Now with the armor on standby within newly occupied territories, the artillery is scheduled to start attack shortly.
RedCommunist says:
it should be
RedCommunist says:
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OOC: Note that the “Domes” have been destroyed. I am disregarding the statements about mines, considering that you claim to be “peaceful” nations with little of an army. Furthermore, most would have been cleared by now by the initial bombardments on your regions. I am also disregarding any space born enemies, them out of your era.
IC: After some fairly light resistance, the armies of the Soviet Union oddly non mobilized to meet our military, MSSK high command has a stall of forces, mainly for the long awaited 150CM-LR-RAS counter barrage. The artillery, which is blamed for the many burning cities and dead people, had been ordered to stand down when the main armor went in. Now with the armor on standby within newly occupied territories, the artillery is scheduled to start attack shortly.
Atomics are not loaded, once more 120 ton incinerary shells will be used. As Comrade General Kov bluntly put “We will burn what is left of their charred cities to the ground, it will be easier to take that way.”
All blood armies have halted advances, and report that the nations of The Sultanate of Ukraine SSR, The Commonwealth of Everyonesucks, and The Principality of Twincest are under full MSSK occupation. The Seventh Blood army is cheered on by fellow veterans, it taking over both of its objective nations in record time; manly thanks to little resistance from a non mobilized army.
Occupying troops are in no way to give aid to the enemy cities, and are ordered to shoot anyone that violates strict curfew violations. Resistance groups have been noted, resulting in the destruction of several MSSK tanks; further action is planned soon. Leader of the Seventh Blood army, Michiel Verinchinko sated that “If resistance continues, we will pull out and flatten the cities with the incinerary artillery. The nations are ours.”
Fourth and third blood armies have reported little resistance and expect to have nations contained within days. The first and second blood armies, tasked with the largest nations, have reported fierce fighting in the cities. Occupation is expected to take some time, but the incoming artillery barrages are expected to burn out most entrenched troops. “Fire will clean any foxhole” Stated the First Blood Army Commander, Nikita Stanzov, leader of the army during the campaigns against Alerica and Germany years ago.
Flank support armies and international elements have reported little contact, 2 convoys total being destroyed.
MSSK Casualties
Infantry- 10,000 Wounded, 2,300 Killed
BMP- 57 Damaged, 24 Destroyed
Armor- 130,000 Damaged, 19,000 Crippled, 1,790 Destroyed
Other data unknown at this time
Soviet Casualties
Infantry- Unknown
Armor- Unknown
Total- An estimated 2.7 Billion people have died from war produced assets, military or civilian
New Labor
10-11-2003, 06:34
IN: TSU has asked for a cease-fire. The USSR will only accept under the agreement to stop getting involved in our regional affairs and leave us alone.
See, when did we ask for a cease fire? I don't know how to classify that...I don't know your "terms". I just know it's senseless rambling. We never said that.
New Labor
10-11-2003, 06:37
The noxious fumes from our Gas Mines have rendered you incoherent and have caused to hallucinate - our domes still stand. Although slightly damaged, they stand tall and proud.
~ N L S S R
I'm apologize to my friend Kov for my late arrival but I have finally arrived.
OOC: I suck at RP
IC: Anyways, I am here to pledge my full support of Kov and his armed forces in this whole war and wish to aid him in his efforts. My commanders are not as experienced and trained as Kov's commnders are so I fear that I will not be able to be as efficient as he is. My troops however are of the highest caliber and are ready and willing to support Kov ni any way they can. That is why the government (OOC:me) has decided to give full command of our armed forces over to Kov. I trust he will be able to use them much better than I ever could. I trust he will use them for this war and afterwards will return them back over to me. Kov, use them wisely, they are going to be a big hlp I'm sure. If any of them cause you trouble I warned them that you would not hesitate to give them a beating or shoot them so I doubt they will be any causes for mutiny.
Pessimisticia
10-11-2003, 07:17
Comrade P. Essimist would like to point out that every nation on the USSR side appears to be claiming the losses for New Labor, which I'm certain falls under godmodding.
Hypocrites.
P. Essimist would also like to smack whoever it was who claimed that "3 nations in the Soviet Union are under occupation."
Only one of us is fighting you guys. How 3 of us would fall is beyond me.
And bow down to my SPAC PLANZ J00!!!!11111111!!!!!!!!! OMGOMGOMGOMGOMG PWNED!
Also, I haven't read all of these novel-long role play battles, but what I have seems incoherent.
"P. Essimist would also like to smack whoever it was who claimed that "3 nations in the Soviet Union are under occupation."
Only one of us is fighting you guys. How 3 of us would fall is beyond me"
I wish you where here so that I could rip of your hand and strangle you with it as well. Sadly it is a luxury we do not have, quaff? If you would have read the intital decliration of MSSK war you will note that I am at war with your region, not a single nation. The faliure to place your troops is not my issue, rather yours. I claim no deaths, rather then estimate them, for there is no way I can have you conferm the amount of dead; considering you do not even know who I am attacking anymore...
As for how I can controll 3 nations... with no defence and with overal population numbers less than or twice as big as my blood army sizes, it takes no mathimetical guru to do the figures.
"Hypocrites" you say, strong word, little meaning in its placement.
OOC: "The noxious fumes from our Gas Mines have rendered you incoherent and have caused to hallucinate - our domes still stand. Although slightly damaged, they stand tall and proud." If this is not your mythical "God Modding" then what is? Gather what left of an army you have and fight us! We hunger for you blood of your soldiers, you will stall us longer with numbers rather than god modding.
IC: After a breif pause in the MSSK attack, the 150CM LR-RAS systems have opened fire upon the cities and fortifications of the soviet union. There is no word on how long it will last; experts estimate a minimum of one day.
The Warriors of Saitou have been mobulized and placed 1/3 on rear flank support with the rest of the USSR troops. The rest have been placed in a forward responce unit ready for a counterattack from several of the seeming dormant nations of the soviet union.
New Labor
10-11-2003, 08:13
Ministry of Propaganda Warfare of NLSSR
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People's Psychiatric-Studies Institute
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~ Over 10 million troops located on the barriers of the 12th Traffic Ring surrounding New Labor's capital, Trotskograd, have been exposed to over 48 hours worth of Gerswhin tunes and Big Brass Band lush-anthems blasting through high quality speakers installed on ligh-posts surrounding the 12th ring. After synthetic, 1.5M C21H30O2(g) was released in a continuous stream from a flock of 50,000 trained white Doves and Pigeons flying over the area with baloons full of the substance, the troops were reported to have put down their guns and followed the call of the 10,000 exotic dancers who took it upon themselves to organize this Resistance d'Amour and persude the troops to make Love, not War. Half of the 5 million troops were led through the streets into Trotskograd's bustling metropolis, and in the streets, homes, and brothels, they were given food and drink and comfortable night-accomodations. These troops, now devoid of guns, are free to rejoin the 5 million remaining troops still outside the 12th ring, but it currently looks as if though they are content with their current lives. Many are reported to have confessed to being fatigued and tired of the Military lifestyle, wishing to have families of their own, and 25 acres of land, an electronic automobile, and endless political and artistic freedoms, all of which are elementary rights in The Soviet Socialist Republic of New Labor [ formerly, The Democratic Republic of New Labor].
The AntiState of ExistenceBeforeEssence, which is playing a humanitarian effort in this war, has dropped millions of friendship bracelets [woven from multicolored, recycled yarn by children in EBE City's Cancer Wards] from white, glider planes onto the soldiers closing into Trotskograd. For tomorrow, they are planning a shower full of Fruits, Nuts, and Candy upon the troops while NLSSR proceeds to blast the Internationale in an effort to help the troops realize that MSSK has forced them to fight AGAINST socialism.
- STOP -
New Labor
10-11-2003, 08:18
- NOTE -
No pigeons or doves were hurt during training for the mission, or the procedure itself.
~ NL Ministry of Non-Human Rights
OOC: You forget you are talking to Militaristic Clanners
IC: A brigade of MSSK infantry, plus one tank, where seen defecting into enemy lines after an annoying barrage of music was in stowed upon them. MSSK high command, abiding by the ways of the clan, has ordered their immediate execution. Such drastic measures where stalled however, when the friendly units stumbled into enemy territory just as the first of the 150CM LR-RAS shells hit the dirt.
The Defectors are expected dead, along with most of the surrounding city, engulfed in flames
RedCommunist
10-11-2003, 21:23
OOC:
NL, Pess and I are talking about terms to end this war. He offered a cease-fire which we are discussing.
Again the giant dome is godmodding.
All I have seen from TSU is godmodding. Giant domes, futuristic gas mines, space plans, no mans land around a whole region. Really now you think a billion man army is godmodding when it is possible under the fact it is the whole region plus kov's army.
Pessimisticia
10-11-2003, 23:08
Space planes was a joke at your expense.
And I'd still say we make about the same level in sense in our ways as you do.
And you, Mr. or Ms. Kov, you're godmodding. I'm certain that it has to be approved by the nations in questions if they loose or not, not yours. Which means that my use of hypocrite has plenty of meaning.
IC: Comrade P. Essimist and his fellow citizens are debating the terms of any kind of treaty with NLSSR, further news of any agreements to peace with USSR will be reported.
New Labor
11-11-2003, 02:19
***People's Independent News Ministry Management Bureau***
- Privatized News Coporation THE RED TIMES
Monday, 18 Brumaire CCXII, Trotskograd
NL's White Square of Solidarity and Peace was the location for an informal procession of 25,000 Intellectuals and collegiate types chanting Anti-War slogans and sporting banners with clear anti-USSR sentiments. The outrage was directed at MSSK's crude military tactics spreading ruination across the environmentally spectacular no-man's land, precious and beloved for its qualities as an organic fuel source and an animal habitat to over 15,350 species of wildlife and over 8,000 species of plant and fungus.
5 Physicists from the Universite Jacobin d'Affaires Militaires have vowed to assemble 3 crude U Fission bombs by the end of this month. Such an undertaking, which would normally require a longer period of time for completion, is possible in NL due to the superior quality of it's Chemical Laboratories and a population boasting 90% college degrees and/or professional status in fields of labor. All work in the Soviet Union has ceased, and electronic accounts of every citizen and corporate firm have been emptied and taken offline by the National Bank of the Soviet Union - Citizens resume their lifestyles with simple modes of reciprocity. Alimentation stubs have been issued in every region. The Central Committee currently controls all financial transactions and allots the necessary funds for War. At the end of the War, all accounts will go back online, yet the populace has no qualms in its government's ability to comply and remain honest.
Although the population of The Soviet Union is strictly opposed to any sort of military action, a nuclear bomb is deemed necessary for the imminent danger to be brought upon by the heartless MSSK drones.
The single Military Stronghold of TSU, The Soviet Federative Republic of Trotskyism, shall point the first missile to the capital of RC, the second to the capital of MSSK, and the third to an undisclosed location within the USSR. The bases are not listed or mapped, and are located in dense forests, underground, and in the convoluted rocky environment of The Soviet Union. Finding these bases will be out of the question, unless human reconaissance is deployed by the USSR, a tactic of which they are clearly incapable.
- STOP -
Manchester-Dalton
11-11-2003, 02:35
Proof of New Labor godmodding
B-52s, TU-160s, and B-1 Lancers are arriving over New Labor's capital with MiG-29 Fulcrum escorts. "Well, it is good we are flying in conjunction with Kov's GPS and at such a high altitude, that is a fireworks show down there," says young pilot Vladimir Kuva, "Target is the government buildings, let's light 'em" Bomb bay doors open. MiG-29's start jamming SAMs. "Bombs away," is echoed over the radio several times.
"Waiting for confirmation, all bombers start orbit," shouts Colonel Marko Volsak, "Bombs hit, can't tell how much damage is done, we'll save that for the U-2s. Let's leave and keep strict radio silence."
New Labor's "Domes" show up after this.
"The U-2 confirmed the damage, sir," says a young private, " Damage is total. None of the Target buildings escaped. All bombs hit correctly without any strays. The Red Rocket satellite has doubly confirmed the damage," says General Nikolayev Sitski. "We have obtained pictures this morning from the Red Rocket satellite that these domes just popped up overnight. We believe them to be Plexiglass," says the young private. "Plexiglass! That may get cracked or chipped by artillery but to a direct overhead strike it will collapse. Scramble escorts and bombers we'll take this nuisance out!" "Yes, sir!" says the private.
Over loudspeakers at certain Manchester-Dalton airbases, " All T-160, B-52,MiG-29, and Bear Bombers take off A.S.A.P. You will be given coordinates and your objectives." Your planes are ready, all MiG-29s are equipped with 4 Amos missiles, 2 Atoll heat-seeking missiles, and 2 Alamo missiles. B-52s, T-160s, and Bear Bombers are equipped with bunker busters, Daisycutters, and Massive Ordinance Air Blast bombs."
Later...
"We are over the target, MiG-29s are jamming, open the bomb doors," says Colonol Volsak, "Drop 'em!" The bombs glide down bunker busters first, they penetrate 23 feet. 2 feet is untouched. The Daisycutters and MOAB's get to their predetermined detonation altitude. They explode creating an intense downward pressure that shatters the dome, then the suction takes over and pulls apart the dome. "Direct hit! It shattered! Let's egress safely and quitely and let Kov deal with the people on the ground," says Colonel Volsak.
Later after bombing...
"The planes are arriving sir," says the young private. "Well, let's play our national anthem for them over the speaker," say General Nikolayev Sitski. Gimn Sovetskogo Soyuza plays over loudspeakers. "Ah. How I love that music," says the general.
Plexiglass, cannot deflect a missile that can fly through concrete and ground that is 38 feet thick. Also, the extreme pressure downward from Daisycutters and MOABs would cause massive fracture. The MOABs and Daisycutters created massive overpressurization (fracturing of Plexiglass) at first, then massive underpressurization (suction of Plexiglass into air) occured. Here is info on Daisycutter:
The BLU-82B/C-130 weapon system, nicknamed Commando Vault in Vietnam and Daisy Cutter in Afghanistan, is a high altitude delivery of 15,000 pound conventional bomb, delivered from an C-130 since it is far too heavy for the bomb racks on any bomber or attack aircraft. Originally designed to create an instant clearing in the jungle, it has been used in Afghanistan as an anti-personnel weapon and as an intimidation weapon because of its very large lethal radius (variously reported as 300-900 feet) combined with flash and sound visible at long distances. It is the largest conventional bomb in existence but is less than one thousandth the power of the Hiroshima nuclear bomb.
Frequent press reports to the contrary, the Daisy Cutter is not a fuel-air explosive (FAE). It is a conventional explosive incorporating both agent and oxidizer. In contrast, an FAE consists only of agent and a dispersing mechanism, and takes its oxidizer from the oxygen in the air. FAEs generally run between 500 and 2000 pounds; it would be difficult to make an FAE the size of Daisy Cutter because the correct uniform mixture of agent with ambient air would be difficult to maintain if the agent were so widely dispersed. Thus, the conventional explosive technique of Daisy Cutter is more reliable than that of an FAE, particularly if there is significant wind or thermal gradient.
This system depends upon the accurate positioning of the aircraft by either a fixed ground radar or onboard navigation equipment. The ground radar controller, or aircrew navigator as applicable, is responsible for positioning the aircraft prior to final countdown and release. Primary aircrew considerations include accurate ballistic and wind computations provided by the navigator, and precision instrument flying with strict adherence to controller instructions. The minimum altitude for release due to blast effects of the weapon is 6,000 feet AGL. The BLU-82 was originally designed to clear helicopter landing zones and artillery emplacements in Vietnam. The warhead contains 12,600 pounds of low-cost GSX slurry (ammonium nitrate, aluminum powder, and polystyrene) and is detonated just above ground level by a 38-inch fuze extender, optimized for destruction and ground level without digging a crater. The weapon produces an overpressure of 1000 psi [pounds per square inch] near ground zero, tapering off as distance increases.
Don't believe it go to www.fas.org search for BLU-82 under conventional weapons under U.S. dumb bombs.
*I extremely doubt Plexiglass will stand against these.*
MOAB
MOAB, privately known in military circles as "the mother of all bombs," has been under development since late last year. The bomb carries 18,000 pounds of tritonal explosives, which have an indefinite shelf life. It replaces the Vietnam-era "Daisy Cutter," a 15,000-pound bomb with 12,600 pounds of the less-powerful GSX explosives.
As originally conceived, the MOAB was to be used against large formations of troops and equipment or hardened above-ground bunkers. The target set has also been expanded to include deeply buried targets.
The MOAB is deployed on a pallet from a C-130 aircraft. It initially has a parachute, but as it deploys, the Inertial Navigation System and Global Positioning System take over. The bomb also has wings and grid fins for guidance.
Don't believe it go to www.cnn.com/2003/US/03/11/sprj.irq.moab.
Can't you read New Labor!
I give it another 6 posts before the nukes start flying.
There are -4- ballistic missile subs in your area.
Another -7- are easily within range of TSU.
-2- Subs with nuclear cruise missiles are also near you.
Combined, they carry a total of -144- missiles.
Which, all in all can be equipped to carry -1288- nuclear warheads.
Or a smaller number of larger (many megaton) warheads.
They are also heavily guarded.
But, I don't want nuclear war.
A cease-fire or peace treaty would be better.
If that falls through though...
Don't try to launch a suprise nuclear assault on us.
The subs will guarantee Mutually Assured Destruction.
The eight MSSK blood armies, 125 million strong each
OOC: Hahahahah! Impossible. A godmod at least.
Pessimisticia
11-11-2003, 09:24
Since we'd both get pretty screwed by nuclear war (Only USSR more so, for our n00kz hav lazer in dem!!!11) how about we all hold hands, sing songs, and mutually despise each other, rather than mutually nuke each other?
This has to be the most godmodded thread i've seen. New Labor and his plexi glass domes, and 125 million man armies. WOW
Like I said, I don't want nuclear war. Why don't we sign a non-agression pact instead. It would be better to just stay out of each others meddlings.
Also, in a nuclear war TSU would be more secrewed because the larger quantities of nukes launched upon them would produce higher long-term radioactivity, killing more people overall, and making some areas inhospitable. Your 'laser' nukes (if thats even possible...) might kill more people as a direct result of detonation. But the long-term radioactivity casualties will be greater for TSU.
However, it is true that in event of nuclear ballistic missile exchanges we are all screwed.
RedCommunist
11-11-2003, 19:16
Ok say you do have laser nukes, which is godmodding, and RedCommunist has a SDI, which can hit a few nukes out of action and it is currently bing used by UK, USA, and Germany in real life. Now then I say we all put everything on hold or if TSU shoots a nuke at USSR we will say it never happened until the fake Plexiglass dome is taken out of the RP.
Pessimisticia
11-11-2003, 22:00
I think my mockery of that leet nonsense is a clear sign that I was joking.
Let's take the masculine way out. Jousting tourney! Treaties are also good, yes, but they don't have anywhere near the entertainment value of jousting. Who's with me?! The TSU vs. USSR People's Jousting Tourney!
Note that the superb medical facilities availible in The Soviet Union, and I'm sure in the USSR as well, will be able to compensate for any injured joustees.
And a jousting tournament is much more humane than hundreds of nuclear missles flying to and fro.
OOC : In keeping with the outrageous godmodding ... :roll:
IC : The biggest ignore cannon the world has ever seen emerges from a huge satellite orbiting the Earth and fires non-stop for 7 million, billion days until those nations involved are completely ignored forever!!!!
:twisted:
Monte Castello
11-11-2003, 22:15
OOC : In keeping with the outrageous godmodding ... :roll:
IC : The biggest ignore cannon the world has ever seen emerges from a huge satellite orbiting the Earth and fires non-stop for 7 million, billion days until those nations involved are completely ignored forever!!!!
:twisted:
LOL :lol:
RedCommunist
11-11-2003, 23:04
OOC: Coming from a person with 42 post. *Smacks New-Gondor with a large trout* Hell ya!
“OOC: Hahahahah! Impossible. A godmod at least.”
I can assure you very easily that a militaristic clanner society can do this, not to mention that I am the military leader of a region of some 120+ Nations. Do your math
“125 million man armies”
I have never seen such a maleducated group in my life… period… didn’t anyone study history??
In any case, maleducated or simply non open minded, they only way the MSSK will settle for a end to hostilities is either
A: The eradication of the enemy
B: A official surrender
C: A trial of equals
Our armies will press onward, no matter the insult you throw at our nation; considering the non likely hood of the basis of the insult to do any mental harm to a topic that few admit to know about.
New Labor
12-11-2003, 00:03
- 19 Brumaire, CCXII, Eudamonia
Two of the crude U fission bombs have been completed and are being moved to the SFR of Trotskyism. The NewWorld order, a Masonic faction prevalent in Eudamonia, SFRT's capital, has been issuing massive frequency disturbances and electromagnetic disturbances so as to interfere with any surveillance that MSSK might be attempting. This disturbance is costly and destructive to Soviet technologies as well, but is considered to be worth the damage. This is a precautionary measure.
It shall three turns of the key, one from Pessimisticia, one from NL, and one from SFRT, in order to deploy a single rocket. But the USSR should consider this as a warning - in the name of TRUE Marxism-Leninism, three missiles lie in rest with their noses pointing in their direction.
1. Little Ulyanov [10 megatons]
2. Leon Davidovich [15 megatons]
and currently awaiting completion is
3. The Sacred Star of The Soviet Union [200 megatons],
- the most destructive of them all. Producing two sympathetic series of EMP and a projected 2yr period of "Mini Nuclear-Winter"
If the MSSK does not withdraw from the Soviet Union, we shall not rest before we acquire 1,500 megatons of nuclear capacity - Note that 1,000 is all it takes to destroy humanity once. By then, any massive bombing of Soviet Territory could put the entire world, including the USSR, at risk of annihilation. We are working quickly to make this possible.
* UPDATE *
The White Square of Solidarity in Trotskograd has been painted Red.
* Ministry of Defence *
200 megatons and "mini nuclear winter" is kind of godmoding, as the largest bomb ever built was a 100MT, and the largest ever detonated was approximately 57 megatons.
The MSSK shall not stand for insult, again and again. First our honor is taken from us, and now we are asked to be cowards in the face of the enemy?
We shall not back down our attack, nor will any single man under our command. We will endure, we will survive, your atomics or not.
In reply to the soviet unions’ atomic threat, the MSSK has stopped the near three day artillery 150CM LR-RAS barrage on its cities; most blazing infernos rather than places of residence. As used in the war against Alerica and Germany years ago, 25 150CM LR-RAS’s have been reloaded with 20 megaton tactical shells. The targets of the barrages are unknown, but Comrade General Kov, leader of the MSSK council, stated that:
“IF it is the end times they want, the end times they will get. We are ready for their “atomic” war. If they launch their weaponry upon us, we shall retaliate with not only the 25 tactical bombs we have loaded now, but an amount great enough to level every city, every town, and every hut this side of the Rhine. The MSSK, and the USSR, are no bigots to be meddled with by near freebirths of warriors. Our nation may not all be bunkers, but we have enough of them to let some of our generation survive. May our children know that their warrior grandfathers did not die in dishonor and vain, and may they know that their enemy is gone, but ashes in the land that they captivate.
Sila comrades, Sila!”
An official order has been sent out and those selected families assigned to the Red Regiment have been transferred from the fronts and from their homes to non specified bunker locations through out the USSR. All blood armies have been ordered to push a full frontal advance; all resistance to be met with force. Resistance fighters report that warriors are chanting the words “Sila”
Will the soviet union arrogantly destroy the lives of millions in its bloody pursuits of idealism, or shall it retain from acts of non needed death? Will the old atomic bunkers from the Alerican war hold up against an atomic holocaust, or shall they open days later to fresh air?
Humanities last hour has arrived
New Labor
12-11-2003, 05:30
From The Minister of Foreign Affairs of TSU
To MSSK****
Please note that each citizen's genetic code and ample DNA samplings are on file and that our society can be cloned promptly after annihilation of the majority.
Likewise, we are not intending to deploy the first bomb. Such an action can only be expected from you and your pathetic, selfless, honor-diseased batallions.
We await your withdrawal, and are currently discussing a ceasefire with your dictator, RedCommunist. Otherwise, be warned - any nuclear attack on TSU on your behalf will warrant full scale retaliation and subsequent destruction of most of the USSR. If we go, we will go with a reputation :)
HAHAHAHAHAHA. New Labor you are a fool if you even attempted to nuke the USSR we would simply turn your region into a giant parking lot you dumb shit. I myself have over 2,000 nukes none of which are below 50 megatons. So don't go around flaunting you nuclear "POWER" because it is nothing compared to the USSR's. Simply ignore the thread or appologize, just something other than nukes.
From The Minister of Foreign Affairs of TSU
To MSSK****
Please note that each citizen's genetic code and ample DNA samplings are on file and that our society can be cloned promptly after annihilation of the majority.
Likewise, we are not intending to deploy the first bomb. Such an action can only be expected from you and your pathetic, selfless, honor-diseased batallions.
We await your withdrawal, and are currently discussing a ceasefire with your dictator, RedCommunist. Otherwise, be warned - any nuclear attack on TSU on your behalf will warrant full scale retaliation and subsequent destruction of most of the USSR. If we go, we will go with a reputation :)
If that's not godmodding then i've got 12 billion monkeys with AK's that are ready to kick some soviet ass.
To whatever leader maintains order in the Soviet Union,
The MSSK will never launch the first atomic blow upon your nation, unless ordered from above. We do not abide to such cowardice tactics.
Our troops will not withdraw from your nations, we will peruse our honor and we will fight your nations until your blood stained lands are all that remain for your legacy. Your freebirth soldiers have put up little resistance, and we will gladly finish the job we started without any atomics.
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The MSSK blood armies have been ordered onto a full advance, carpet bombing is expected from fellow USSR nations shortly.
Pessimisticia
12-11-2003, 06:10
Kov, didn't you say that your one-billion man army is partially from control of much of the USSR's collective military? Considering that RedCommunist has come to terms with a peace-treaty and the exact details are in the end-stage of negotiations, I'd imagine that your one-billion man army will plummet to three or four. Hehe, I made a funny.
Also, any military action now violates a stand-down agreement already enacted. Game over. You loose.
Until, RC gives the word my nuclear arsenal will be on standby.
“Kov, didn't you say that your one-billion man army is partially from control of much of the USSR's collective military? Considering that RedCommunist has come to terms with a peace-treaty and the exact details are in the end-stage of negotiations, I'd imagine that your one-billion man army will plummet to three or four. Hehe, I made a funny.
Also, any military action now violates a stand-down agreement already enacted. Game over. You loose.”
My military, what size of you can debate on in your own spare time, actually numbers over a billion. Mainly thanks to the many nations that support me and have sent their troops into battle.
There has been no vote and no talks of peace for me and your nations, and I tell you that unless I am ordered directly by my CEC I am not pressing off my attack. The MSSK instated this attack in response to you, and before any vote, all the armies with my men are there by independently accord, and shall remain so until we are forced to leave. We will not be dishonored by the actions of the Soviet Union, and we will not hesitate to make your nations bleed for longer periods of time.
The nations in this war are independent, if peace passes the USSR will leave, but those that wish will remain under my command unless the CEC votes. Enough of your bickering, ready your death freebirth.
New Labor
12-11-2003, 08:27
HAHAHAHAHAHA. New Labor you are a fool if you even attempted to nuke the USSR we would simply turn your region into a giant parking lot you dumb shit. I myself have over 2,000 nukes none of which are below 50 megatons. So don't go around flaunting you nuclear "POWER" because it is nothing compared to the USSR's. Simply ignore the thread or appologize, just something other than nukes.
oh yes! "ha ha", you're so witty. Too witty for me.
That's like saying "I can kill you more" or like....we will make you more dead. 200 megatons is all it takes to destroy the size of the physical CIS, since you're all about reality and realistic warfare, here, on the internet.....where we design pretty little flags to regale ourselves with pretend nations, wheee.
And don't tell me to apologize. Maybe your mother should apologize instead! Your "none below 50 megaton" nukes are unecessary. That's like killing a fly with a machine gun. You gosh darned imbecile....I am so angry at you, ...like personally at this point. I am going to bomb your sad excuse for a nation instead of MSSK if you continue with your ways.
"uhh..thats godmodding you guys! Not fair!"
just shut up.
New Labor
12-11-2003, 08:34
***Independent, Privatized Weekly, The New Labor Evening Times***
A massive banner has been fabricated, depicting the image of MSSK's leader - a massive public defacation ceremony ensued whereby over 3,000 people proceeded to soil the spread banner on Trotskograd's Red [formerly] Square.
The banner is expected to be publically displayed on Red Square after the ceremony, at which point NLSSR and SFRT shall commence broadcasting anti-USSR propaganda through odd frequencies in the USSR. Such messages are meant to sway the illiterate populace of that region to rebel and take down the state.
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Russian Forces
12-11-2003, 09:07
YOU ARE MAKING A BIG MISTAKE!
http://muse.widener.edu/SBA/FacultyWebpages/Marshall/pics/IM000421a.jpg
Well, technically they're not "HIS" troops they are all the armies in our region combined and since he is the defense minister he controls most forces in times of war, so i hope that helps to some extent.
Alright, I will sit down and explain it all to you that do not study history. You can call a billion man army arrogant and nonrealistic at first, but if you take into perspective the society and way of MSSK life you may understand.
No there are no super guns, but that you for the insult anyhow.
Clanner-Militaristic Society
Under a clanner society all people born, raised, or acquired by any other means are to initially become soldiers and serve the government, Man and woman alike. In the case of the MSSK, two thirds of the population is raised in this fashion. Serving school and ROTC from the ages of 12-16 and from the moment of the end of advanced educational classes serving in the military until old or out of shape to perform any good. Workers are rationed money and food on the dot for equalness, but are given “raises” depending on their position.
I will not get into details of how one gains a raise or so forth.
The military, all though trains day after day, is not a total military one; many soldiers, although trained to kill, will serve as construction workers, machinery operators, and so forth, striving the economy from wherever they are sent. The rest of the population (1/3) is either selected to do other professions from birth, not able to be a soldier, or of age. These run stores, non military installations (ie not mining coal or working at a factory), and do all other work non associated with the military. The military works for itself, and the civilians work for the military, for in a clanner militarian society there is no greater honor than to be a soldier. Furthermore my population (if you can do math) is over one point five billion.
Examples of this society can be seen in ancient Greece and Fuddle Japan. In modern times china has a military nearly 3/5s the same size as me; draw your conclusions
New Labor
13-11-2003, 02:32
ok Kov, ...
ITS NOT "FUDDLE JAPAN". ITS "FEUDAL JAPAN".
FEUDALISM. not FUDDLEISM
And that poster cannot apply to Kov, as he has no "narod" of any sort...
Aff. to that New Labor. Thank you for the correction, it is hard to spell your second langauge correctly with so many damn choices on the spell checker.
Sadly the poster does apply, considering my "Narod" and "Armia" are one, or work for one another.
Manchester-Dalton
15-11-2003, 05:02
I agree, English is very hard to understand with all its rules and such.
New Labor
15-11-2003, 05:33
please...English is a breeze if you know a language like Russian.
"Please"
I supose you are bilingual too then?
States of Stephenson
15-11-2003, 08:52
The Five Civilized Nations will be watching this war closely, very, very closely...
The States of Stephenson stand ready to provide humanatarian and diplomatic assistance in this conflict. We do not endorse this war nor claim to help any side militarily. We wish to help with humanatarian and diplomatic assistance. Our Ministry of Diplomatic and Foreign Assistance stands ready to assist those harmed by this conflict.
Archibishop Henry
The Foreign Ministry of the States of Stephenson
The Ministry of Diplomatic and Foreign Assistance
After heavy pressure from the CEC, the MSSK will stand its troops down for a week, to see if any good will come from the ceasefire. We shall not leave the lands that we have gained, but shall allow all occupants to leave our new territories. The rest will be burned to the ground.
Furthermore, the advancing Blood armies currently occupying enemy cities will not withdraw, as well as those in non totally controlled nations. Any sight of enemy mobilization will be met with our full counterattack.
May you lick your wounds for now…
And may you come to terms with the fact that you're supposed to be out of our region already.
I explained my standing already, I will not say it again.
You explained your standing, and your standing violates treaty.