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the remmonlands are currently in the progress of developing a number of high-tech laser weapons, these weapons consist of both chemical and electrical lasers and tough both types have been tested the remmonlands require both vehicles to mount these laser weapons on as well as a much more efficient and smaller powerplant then our current conventional and nuclear powerplants

the weapons we have developed and tested are as following:

SC-1 portable chemical laser rifle:
the SR-1 laser rifle uses a polonium fuel rod and Xenon gas to produce a high intesity laser burst, that tough it only lasts for 1/1000th of a second, is a very effective anti-infantry weapon with sufficient power to kill an armored infantrist with a single hit
range: 2000m, less when sight is obscured by mist, rain or other environmental conditions.
penetration power: sufficient to penetrate a soldier wearing normal kevlar armor.
ammo: polonium fuel rods, each fuel rod provides 90 days of power
rate of fire: aprox 120 shots per minute
cost: 5000 USD per rifle

SC-1 vehicle mounted chemical laser:
the SR-1 vehicle mounted chemical laser works on the same principals as the SR-1 laser rifle, the only difference is that it is ment to be mounted on a vehicle and thus doesn't have the handle and other items that the rifle does have, specifications are the same as the SR-1 laser rifle
cost: 4000 USD per laser

HC-1 turret or vehicle mounted chemical laser cannon
the HR-1 uses the same principals as the SR-1 series, but on a much larger scale. The HR-1 can do severe damage to enemy armor but the more limited rate of fire makes it much less usefull against infantry, the increased energy requirements of the HR-1 also makes the fuel rods last much shorter, a vehicle is not supplied with the HR-1 and you will have to mount it on 1 of your own vehicles
range: 2500m, can be reduced by fog, rain, etc.
penetration power: 25mm reinforced steel armor
ammo: polonium fuel rods, each provides power for aprox 10 days
rate of fire: 60 shots per minute
cost: 15000 USD

AC-1 air defense laser:
the AR-1 is another example of a chemical laser, this particular version tailored towards range instead of power, the normal tactic when targetting airplanes is to fire at either the ammo or the fuel supply because of the limited penetration power of the laser.
range: aprox 25km, allowing it to hit most airplanes before they can be of much harm, the laser has trouble pentrating clouds tough.
penetration power: almost none, relies on massive heating of larger area of the target, rather then the small dot of heat created by most lasers
ammo: polonium fuel rods, providing aprox 25 days of power
rate of fire:1 second beam, requires 1 second reload after a full beam
cost: 25000 USD

weapons currently under development:

SE-1 electric vehicle mounted laser:
the SE-1 vehicle mounted laser is ment to be a more powerfull variant of the SC-1 vehicle mounted laser, using electricity rather then superheated gas to generate a much more powerfull laser beam and altough the weapon itself has been developed to a much more powerfull state then the SC-1, its power requirments are so massive that no vehicle powerplant can supply even 1 of these lasers. People needing a good base defense weapon can ofcourse still use these weapons
range: large, exact range unknown
penetration power: weapon is ment for anti-infantry use, exact penetration power unknown
power requirments: 100MW for full capacity beams
rate of fire: sustainable 15 second beam, then requires aprox 30 seconds to cool down, weapon can be fired longer then 15 seconds but this may damage the firing system
cost: 50000 USD

HE-1 electric turret mounted laser cannon:
the HE-1 uses the same system as the SE-1, but on a much larger scale, this laser is geared towards cutting up enemy tanks, unfortunately this weapon remains untested due to the fact that a sufficient charge to fire this weapon has not yet been attained
range: unknown
penetration power: unknown
power requirements: more then 1500MW
rate of fire: unknown
cost: not for sale, yet

AE-1 electric air defense laser:
the AE-1 is a laser geared towards air defense, unfortunately due to current inability to provided sufficient charge, it remains untested.
range: unknown
power requirements: more then 1500MW
rate of fire: unknown
cost: not for sale, yet

tanks:

LLAV: the LLAV (standing for Light Laser Attack Vehicle) features heavily sloped front armor and sloped side armor, its primary weapon is an HC-1 turret mounted laser on top (in a turret with, you guessed it, sloped armor, which is perfect of the heat vents of the laser) and 3 SC-1 lasers, 1 forward mounted on a swivel mount and 2 side mounted on swivel mounts. There will be an LLAVE version soon as well, which features fusion batteries for power, the standard LLAV is powered by a diesel engine and can be operated even in the event of a complete power failure (EMP hit or something similar)
stats:
crew: 3, driver, coms/commander, gunner
fuel: diesel fuel, 25 gallon tanks, fuel efficiency classified
Armor:
350 mm titanium
Armorment:
1 HC-1
3 SC-1
Length 9.53 - 6.86 meters
Width 3.78 meters
Height 2.225 meters
clearance 0.47 meters
Weight 46.5 metric tons
Armored volume 11.04 m3
Engine 840 hp V-84MS diesel
1,000 hp V-84KD turbo-supercharged diesel
1,000 hp V-85 diesel
1 kW AB-1-P28 auxiliary power unit
Max Road Speed 65 km/h
Max cross-country Speed 45 km/h
Power/Weight 18 - 20.0 hp/tn
Ground Pressure 0.938 kg/sq.cm
Range 550 - 650 km
Obstacle negotiation
Fording depth 1.2 m on the move/5 m with OPVT (snorkel)
Trench width 2.8 m
Vertical obstacle 0.8 m
Maximum gradient 30°

Wait-it fires 1/100th of a second-yet it has the power to, in one shot, kill an infantry man wearing full Kevlar.

Also, what time period are you RPing, because most space tech. nations outfit their troops with better stuff than kevlar.

Did I also mention that you're only 2 days old?

well, this would be modern-future, because test of the first chemical lasers have been completed and the SR-1 laser rifle is planned to go into production in the year 2005, where upon it will begin replacing the M16 and M4 rifles in the american military

the specifications of my SC-1 type lasers are based on the SR-1's performance

and tough the laser can put a neat hole trough kevlar and the man wearing it, it will also generate a huge amount of heat, so that even if the beam is absorbed by the armor and doesn't penetrate, it will cook the soldier alive

and last, yes, it fires 1/1000th of a second, just like the SR-1 i might add, and can kill an infantry man wearing full kevlar with 1 shot

the SR-1 could put a hole in 5mm steel in that 1/1000th of a second i might add

Ahh..understood.

If you were to add even another 1/100th of a second to the beam, it could go through someone and than through another...I'll have to think about for my own weapopns.

yes, in theory, but unfortunately due to the massive energy usage of a chemical laser of this kind, that extra 1/1000th (you keep forgetting a zero, if the laser would fire 1/100th of a second, you'd be holding molten slag in your hands) would generate so much heat that it would become impossible to handle the weapon

if we are to find a way to better cool the weapon, we certainly will try to make it fire for a longer amount of time

well, this would be modern-future, because test of the first chemical lasers have been completed and the SR-1 laser rifle is planned to go into production in the year 2005, where upon it will begin replacing the M16 and M4 rifles in the american military.

What the hell are you talking about? They will be replacing them with that one assault rifle that is part of the Land Warrior system.

Eh? isn't the OICW suppose to be 2006-8 before they even consider doling it out along with the M-8 carbine to replace the M4 and/ or the M16? and the OCSW isn't due until after that (along with all the rest of the OFIW program).

I'm not saying that what you say is untrue but based on the slowness of US procurment mechanisms i do wonder how on earth the US could get a working laser weapon into service that quickly.

A link or soemthing would be useful.

i saw the thing on discovery channel a while back and have no idea about further links etc.

i only know that it will come into service in 2005, that it will be replacing M16's and M4's, but i really don't know how fast that's going to be happening and where they will first be starting to use the SR-1, i do however know that the army will probably spend several years testing the weapon itself before it goes into widespread service

i also know that development on the SR-1 started as a top secret project in 1998, then tests of the weapons started in 2002, still top secret, it wasn't untill about halfway trough 2003 that it was revealed, working and still being tested

i might be able to find a link from a magazine in which i also saw an article about it, but it'll probably be dutch and for some reason i don't think most of you understand dutch

here's a link to another kind of laser weapon, 1 ment for immobilizing targets and with a much smaller capicity, this 1 could come into use for stopping riots and other non-lethal purposes soon

http://www.howstuffworks.com/news-item80.htm

so, err, anybody interested in purchasing lasers ??

the remmonlands have just started research and will hopefully soonly be able to start testing of a LLAV, equipped with 1 HC-1 turret mount laser and 3 LC-1 lasers, it will have sloped front and side armor, made primarily out of laser welded titanium and special anti-HEAT alloys

The Five Civilized Nations will provide US $100 billion for research...

the remmonlands sincerely thank the five nations for their generous contribution into our research fund and will gladly give the five nations a 25% discount on the current and future weapon systems

Hhmm on your infatry laser i couldn't find anything on a system named SR-1 but i did find a pdf with an project outline about a system known as TIS-1 which seemed very similar in format to your idea (polonium power source, compatable with current M16 acessories and furniture etc).

This paper is dated 1999 (the date the US aparently issued thier Light Fighter Lethality After Next (LFLAN) requirement) with feild implentation due for sometime in the 2020-2025 time range or later.

basically this seems to be the beginnings of research on stuff to follow on from the Objective Force Infantry Warrior and land warrior programs.

unfortunatly i can't remember where i got the link but if needed i can host the pdf on my webspace.

we have finished plans for 2 versions of the LLAV, namely the normal combustion engine version and the LLAVE version which will be using HE-1 and SE-1 lasers and an eletric drive

we still however require the powersupply for the LLAVE and are in talks with another nation about this

To: Remmonlands Diplomats
From: Vrak Military Research Division
Subject: research

Vrak is most interested in your current research.

We are willing to donate what information we have on our old plasma generator powerplants, hot fusion in laymens terms. though a bit unstable when compared to cold fusion, Hot fusion is safer than nuclear power, and doesn't leave radioactive waste behind. We will also be willing to supply with with our plasma batteries, which harness hot fusion in a disposable pacage for powering weaponry and vehicles.

we are especially interested in the plasma batteries as a potential powersource for our electrical laser weapons and wish to thank Taka for their support.

We will also offer all our current and yet to come technology at a 25% discount to Taka in return for this generous offer

We will offer you our LB-1D ABL equipped B-1Bs, if it's any help.

and, what exactly would be the stats of these laser equipped aircraft (yes, i read they have lasers in microbrit's thread)

we have just finished the construction of the first small scale fusion reactor, we are using a combination of high pressure and magnetic containment to start up the fusion process of the deuterium atoms we're using as fuel source

we expect to start full scale testing of the fusion batteries soon

They are the same as a normal B-1B, but have a bulbous extension on the nose that houses the chemical laser. It's powered by a fusion reactor mounted where the bomb bay used to be, and is cooled by helium. It can slice of a B-52's wing with a quick 1/100th of a second pulse. Has a firing rate of about 5 seconds of cooling per pulse.

you do know that a chemical laser doesn't use electricity, do you ??

in this case the laser would be an electrical laser and you'd have several variaties of this type of laser, the most common used being a solid state laser which uses a crystal and a powerfull lightsource to generate the beam

you do know that a chemical laser doesn't use electricity, do you ??

in this case the laser would be an electrical laser and you'd have several variaties of this type of laser, the most common used being a solid state laser which uses a crystal and a powerfull lightsource to generate the beam
Whoops, thanks for catching that. Yes, it's a solid state laser, the chemical lasers are the ones used on modified M113 APCs we have for air defense.

well, we would gladly accept this offer as it will be the only aircraft we have, not counting the KL-60B helicopters but they have a rather limited use when it comes to countering aircraft

we also see potential in adapting the airframe to house a Mazer weapon when such a weapon is developed

testing of the LLAV has been highly successfull and we have found that it was able to sustain a direct hit from a 90mm HEAT round without being disabled. This combined with the relatively high manueverability and speed demonstrated during the tests and the power of the HC-1 laser will prove highly usefull

the LLAV has just gone into production, the 15 prototype vehicles that survived the testing have been repaired where neccesary and organized ino the first tank battalion (currently also the only)

each tank has a 3 men crew

ooc: could someone help me with some stats ?? this thing is supposed to be bigger and heavier then a normal LAV, but smaller and lighter then an MBT

this might sound stupid but how do you buy this stuff. IF you can.... :?:

Did I also mention that you're only 2 days old?
So?
Isn't 1 RL day 1 NS year? That would mean 2 years to settle down from the revolution/expansion, and of course they'd have technology from wherever they came from.

well, there are prices and such on page 1

so i'd suggest looking there for the things you want, then ordering in this thread

and if it's about how i got that stuff, anybody ever heard of research ??

tanks aren't that hard to develop (given a little time and effort) and lasers are pretty much finished IRL

Surviving a 90 mm HEAT round is quite a feat for a light vehicle, that would essentialy mean your light tank is more powerful than most WW2 tanks, that got eaten by 88 mm AA shells. Remember, the most common wepon in the hands of infantry on the battlefield today against tanks are the LAW (light anti-armor weapon), which fire a 66 mm rocket, the RPG 7 which fires an 85 mm Rocket, or the larger MBT LAW (The Main Battle Tank and Light Armour Weapon) which fit 115/150mm rockets. for a light tank that would be acceptable, however for a light vehicle, its just a bit too thickly armored, and that would cut down on manuevering speed.

it doesn't have welded titanium and heavily wedged armor for nothing

and yes, it is less maneuverable, heavier and larger then most LAV's but the increase in size and weight go primarily into survivability, the entire purpose of this thing to wipe out enemy MBT's from the sides and getting rid of infantry with the LC-1's

ah, so it would fall more into the catagory of a light battle tank. When you say Light Attack Vehicle I'm thinkin recon vehicles, or a Bradley fighting vehicle, objection retracted.

ooc: so, will any of you guys give me a hand on the stats ??

sure, never been too good at tanks, but I'll see what I can do. . . lets see, how about this

*edited, lets try it again, and yes, I did just rip the stats from the T-90 MBT*

Armor:
350 mm titanium


Armorment:
1 HC-1
3 SC-1

Length 9.53 - 6.86 meters

Width 3.78 meters

Height 2.225 meters

clearance 0.47 meters

Weight 46.5 - 50 metric tons

Armored volume 11.04 m3

Crew 3

Engine 840 hp V-84MS diesel

1,000 hp V-84KD turbo-supercharged diesel

1,000 hp V-85 diesel

1 kW AB-1-P28 auxiliary power unit

Max Road Speed 65 km/h

Max cross-country Speed 45 km/h

Power/Weight 18 - 20.0 hp/tn

Ground Pressure 0.938 kg/sq.cm

Range 550 - 650 km

Obstacle negotiation

Fording depth 1.2 m on the move/5 m with OPVT (snorkel)

Trench width 2.8 m

Vertical obstacle 0.8 m

Maximum gradient 30°

well, the armor and speed stats are nice, but i already said that there is a 3 men crew involved

1 driver, 1 coms/commander and 1 gunner, the 3 LC-1's are computer controlled and have their targets designated by the gunner

i'm more concerned with length, width and height of the vehicle

much better

will edit this into the first page and open up sellage of it

btw, all items on the first page with a price indicated are for sale

we have just recieved the technology to build booster rockets from a trade with Yurka

we have been busy developing space defense satelites for some time and are currently busy setting up a launch center

we expect to be able to launch our first orbital payloads within a few years