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Speaker: Josepi Tarkin

Here ye here ye, the Regional Parliament called for by the Bulger Fifteen accord is now in session. Any member nation wishing to address the parliamentarians is welcomed to do so. Please introduce yourself, state your nation, and tell us your opinions.

Representative: William Von Aufswolf

I would like to welcome all current B-15 member nations and potential members of this grand alliance. To date these nations are full members receiving full benefits of the alliance:

The United States of Bulger Fifteen
The Republic of Pax Germania
The Democratic States of Tempestia
The Rogue Nation of Hairybackistan
The Holy Empire of Crippleslovenia
The Grand Duchy of Andaluciae
The Dominion of Fijar
The Empire of Edenstein
The Fresh Princedom of Western Manarth
The Dominion of Samsylvannia
The Kingdom of Mirabar
The Empire of Proenzastan
The Armed Republic of HeavyArmsMetal
The Holy Empire of Dubelco
The Armed Republic of Rialto
The Rogue Nation of Vampyrsdon
The People's Republic of Jesseville_Ohio
The Republic of Izimbeckwi
The Republic of Izembeckwi
The Republic of Iszimbeckwi
The Republic of Iszembeckwi
The United Socialist States of Soviet Cheese
The Holy Empire of Counterpoint


Membership Pending:
(NONE)


Votes on the floor (which must be posted and telegramed to the Speaker):


Current actions being taken:

The Powerful Imperialist Empire of Technon recognizes and wishes to join this Great Alliance.



-Xax Tyran III, Emperor of Technon

Representative: James M. Dubelco

I would like to thank Arcturis Dernitz for the push for these accords. It was his origional idea, with revisions by both my nation and Samsylvania. We wish the best to all nations, and those hopefulls to the accords. Thank you.

Representative: William Von Aufswolf

I want to personally welcome two additional nations to the Bulger Fifteen Accord:
The Grand Duchy of Andaluciae, The Dominion of Fijar

Both of these nations bring over a billion people each into our alliance, bringing the total to over 10,000,000,000. That is all.

Samsylvannia would like to extend a hand of welcome and friendship to the fellow members of our great alliance.

Edenstein is sending three representitives to the Bulger Accords,

Lt. General Alana Onotov
Representative of the Edenstein Military

Under Secretary Yuri Kasprov
Representative for the Edenstein Economy and industy

Under Secretary Alkesandra Goodell
Representitive for the Government of Edenstein and the Duma

The Holy Empire of the Veirt Reich wishes to join.

*Under-secretary Aleksandra steps up to the podium Lt. Gen Onotov and U.S Kasprov stand behind her.*

I am Under-secretary Aleksandra from Edenstein, and I am here to speak on the attacks on Henceland Omega, these unprovoked attacks by Sammsylvania and Crippleslavania are just for imperialistic goals. We as the new governing body in the LETI region CAN NOT *pounds fist on podium to drive home point* stand idley by and watch as these nations attack Henceland Omega with no more or a reason than to "Expand the empire".

Edenstein is formaly denouncing these attacks. We also demand that immediate sanctions be placed on these two "Imperialistic" nations. We propse an international embargo and trade sanctions be imposed on these nations until hostilities are terminated.

Furthermore, if requested, Edenstein will come to the aid of Henceland Omega, for years, our two nations have been close allies. Aid will be in any form that is requested, food, money, medical supplies, arms, or troops.

We insist that the nations of the Bulger accord set a strong precedent for nations such as these. If a strong precedent is not set, then we fear that the validity of this organization will come in to question in the future, when bigger inter regional issues arise. I will now field questions from the honored delegates.

OOC:
http://www.geocities.com/tubajockey/bulger15.html
Actual bulger 15 accord wording

Representative: William Von Aufswolf

Ladies and gentlemen, let us not be to hasty to commit to one side or the other. As we all know the aggressors in this case are both members of our alliance. Indeed a quite perilous predicament now exists, Crippleslovenia and Samsylvannia would both be removed from our ranks had they not begun their undertaking prior to their signing of the accord. I concur completely with Mrs. Goodell regarding setting a president for all the world to see. But how does the B-15 intervene without offending member nations from either side of this conflict?

Representative: Georgii Agafoggel

I suggest that ve are with the attacking of both forces. The vorld must see that ve mean business.

Rep: Johannes Reithinger

That is preposterous, the world would not only see that B-15 means business but that we are also insane! I propose that we send defensive forces to Henceland and blockade the home ports of Crippleslovenia and Samsylvannia, thus forcing their forces to withdraw.

Rep: Mattias Heine

Must we resort to military action in order to dissuade the attacks on Henceland? Will not sanctions be enough? Along with full trade sanctions I propose offering medical aid to both forces involved in this conflict.

can i join as Microbrits needs to be put of the map

Speaker: Josepi Tarkin

The Henceland issue shall be put to a vote. Since these votes are secret ballot, you must telegram the speaker with your vote. Let it be said that the clock reads 10:18 am on the sixth day of November. Voting is now open and will cease in 24 hours. Any votes received by non-member nations or after the voting ceases will be disregarded.

Rep: Sceptrana Shoudra Stargleam, Kingdom of Mirabar


Mirabar agrees fully with the representative from Izembeckwi. We do not want to push military actions against our own allies. We shall offer any food, medical supplies, or money that shall help in squelching this unwarrented attack on allied soil.

*an unknown delegate walks up to the podium as the delegation from Edenstein sits down, dirty looks are traded as Ambassador Akira walks up the the podium, she glances back over to where the Edenstein delegates are sitting and gives them another dirty look*

Akira: I am Ambasador Annette Akira from Counterpoint, we have been monitoring the situation in the LETI region for sometime, and feel that it is time that we make a move to become a part of the Bulger 15 accords. To long have nations such as Edenstein *turns and looks directly at the delegates* run this region and dictated what goes on. We feel that a governing body to be put them in check has long been needed. *She turns around again* Therefore, we are officialy submitting our application as a member nation to the Bulger 15 accords.

I feel that Counterpoint can bring a females touch to this male dominated region, we have a mighty military that is one of the best in the region,

*snikers can be heard from the Edenstein delegates*

Like I was saying we have one of the mightyiest militaries in the region, we also stress a very high importance on diplomacy

*more snikers from the Edenstein delegates*

And, *turns and looks at the Edenstein Delegates again* we belive that international policy, is of high importance. We try and resolve things first instead of "Ohh lets move a carrier group here". *she turns back around* This organization needs a females touch, and counterpoint is the one that should do it.

*She turns around and heads towards one of the open seats in the room and sits down waiting to here the verdict from some of the other nations*

*Edited to add some stuff*

I wish to join this alliance

OOC: this is just a helpful suggestion to nations that are wishing to sign the bulger 15 accords, don't just pop in, leave a little message saying I wish to join this alliance. RP it out or something, send a delegate stating why they feel that your nation would be a worthy addition to the alliance. I mean, it makes it more fun for you, it makes it more fun for us, and its more like real life, a country like say, Lichenstein wouldn't just come to a NATO meeting and pop there heads in and say "Hey let me in!" they'd give a reason why they do.

*Shrugs* whatever, just trying to give you guys a better chance at getting in, and trying to make things more intresting.

On behalf of the nation of the Republic of Austar Union and her colonies, i would like to ask the Bulger Fifteen Alliance for a full membership offer. We believe that our nation will benifet the alliance greatly because we will always be of assistance when called upon, and we are planning to stay around for a very long time.

Thankyou,

Foriegn Mininster William A. Phallop
On behalf of The Republic of Austar Union

AU Military Statistics (Add colonies too):
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=86829&highlight=

Speaker: Josepi Tarkin

The votes are in, and the house has decided to place trade sanctions on the nations of Crippleslovenia and Samsylvannia. This is a total embargo of all goods. Trade will be resumed at a later time. That is all.

*The Samsylvannian Delegation storms into the room. It consists of Ambassador Bill Nye, and his assistants Chris and Martin Kratt. Nye storms up to the podium.*

Nye: Samsylvannia is appalled at the actions of this parliament!! I am here to formerly protest these actions and to urge the members of the Bulger 15 Accord to repeal this decision. While Samsylvannia regrets the necessity of our actions, they were indeed necessary. Henceland Omega has for many years eaten away at the economy of Samsylvannia. Their fishing ships have come closer and closer to our waters as the fish populations dwindle. They have sat back and let other countries bear the brunt of problems that it has helped to create. It is for these reasons that we have decided to loosen Henceland Omega's iron grip on the region. And anyway they had it coming! Your decision may treat the problem, but it does not treat the cause. In fact, it only adds to our economic woes and puts us in an ever increasingly desperate state. Please reconsider this action! Now we have no choice but to go forward with our expansion. The sooner the sanctions are lifted, the sooner we all can go back to normal. I know this seems impossible, but consider this: *He pulls out a large bottle, an egg, and a match. The does not fit into the bottle, however, when he drops the match into the bottle and places the egg of the neck, it is forced into the bottle without breaking. The ambassadors clap politely and nod to each other.* Thank you for your time.

*Samsylvannia proposes lifting sactions against Crippleslovenia and Samslyvannia.*

*The Delegation from Edenstein stands back at the podium*

US Aleksandra: First off, respected ladies and gentlemen from the assembled nations, Samsylvania is full of *Bleep out due to public TV*. These oppressive actions that where caused by them and Crippleslavania, need to be delt with harshly. Something wreaks in that neck of the lake and it is the imperialsit mind set over a precieved threat of fishing rights??? These two armies are killing civilians over some walleye! I prospose that not only should sanctions be placed on these nations, corrective military action is needed. Sanctions will NOT be lifted...... also, on a side note, arn't new memeber nations supposed to be voted on by the general assembly? The integrity of this council must be maintained. *looks at delegates from Counterpoint and Auster Union* If the assembly feels that they are eligable, then let them say. That is all......

*They sit back down and make a gesture towards the Counterpoint delegation that is fuzzed out because of public TV*

Spokeswoman: The Viert Reich would like to have control of the islands of Silent Lord, and will decline our request in joining B-15.

*James steps up to the podium*

James: Fellow delegates, as the problem with the HO/DOS/Crippleslovenia conflict rises in intensity with the new threat of this "New Regime" of Proenzastan, I do believe Military action is necessary, only against putting down the New Proenzastanian goverment. Bifida, while a briliant leader, has authorized the slaughter of civilians for their gain. He shows no sign of slowing and needs to be stopped. I propose a task force be sent to take out Bifida and his regime. If diplomatic measures can't be reached, however highly likely/unlikely, then Dubelco will happily vote towards stopping this maddman. We have special forces waiting, and special friend for Bifida to meet, should we need to send a welcoming commitee.

I would also like to address the subject of the matter of Silent Lord brought up by Viert Reich. While you do have some claims to the land, it is in LETI territory, and you being in LOTI, would be conflict of interests. I propose a vote should be taken by the security council for this.
Thank you.

*James steps down and goes back to his seat*

Representative: Georgii Agafoggel

How are ve knowin'k these alleged atrocities are takin'k place? I move that the Senate sends a group of inspectors to ascertain the truth.

*Ambassador From Counterpoint, Ambassador Akira stands up and goes to the podium to speak, she returns the gesture to the Edensteinians and is also fuzzed out, she dodges the Delegation from Samsylvania*

Akira: My friends, delegates and the "Tramps" from Edenstein. After listening to the half hazard pleads of Edenstein to try and stop the defensive rights of Sammyslvania have proven that they are the true aggressors in this region. The well being of a countries economy and people is essential, especialy from one of the largest nations in this region.

Therefore, we also call for the abolition of sanctions against Samsylvania and Cripleslavania Furthermore, trade sanctions should be placed on Edenstein for trying to send a soverign nation into the poorhouse.

*She walks down from the podium and smiles at the Edenstein Delegates*

Counterpoint proposes lifting sanctions on Crippleslavania and Samsylvania and putting them on Edenstein

*Chris and Martin Kratt, two of Samsylvannia's delegates, come to the podium accomanied by a young elephant.*

Chris: We stand before you this afternoon to propose an amendment to the Bulger 15 Accord. It reads as follows:

"Nations wishing to join the Bulger 15 Accord may do so according to the following proceedure:
1) Nations become candidates by securing permission from two (2) Member Nation sponsors.
2) The Candidate Nation must then inform the Parliament of intent to join and submit a formal letter of request that includes the reasons that the Candidate Nation wishes to join.
3) The aforementioned sponsors must then motion and second to bring a vote before Parliament. A 2/3 majority of Member Nations must approve the motion to allow the Candiate to become a Member.
4) The Candiate then formally signs the agreement and becomes a Member Nation."

Look at this elephant. *The elephant just stands there.* When it grows up it will be released back into the wild where it will attempt to join a herd. In order for that to happen, the entire herd must accept the new elephant, not just the dominant bull. I propose amendment with the aim of turning our dominant bull to merely a bunch of bull. Thank you for your time.
*The Kratts and the elephant exit.

To the Parliament from President Sherman:

I propose a startegic move of this alliance that will greatly enhance our alliance's strength. I propose that we merge with an alliance I am currently in. To see this alliance click here:
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=90316&highlight=

I have proposed the idea to them, and it appears that it would be OK on their side. Now I propose the idea on this side. What does anybody think?

*Samsylvannia Official Position*

Samsylvannia opposes the proposed merging with another alliance. We resent such a sweeping proposal coming from Austar Union, a brand new member who apparently has no other interest than to create as large an organization as possible to provide for their own defense with no concern for the purpose of the Bulger 15 Accords. Samslyvannia also resents Austar Union's membership in this organization, hence our previous proposed amendment. Furthermore, Article II of their alliance treaty is a clause calling for banishment of imperialistic nations. As many of our nations are empires, and many of our nations enjoy the frequent annexation of Dubelco, this could pose a problem. And further furthermore, most of the nations of that alliance are members of the U.N. They are in league with The Man!!! As the saying goes, if you can't join them, beat them! We propose to invade and conquer all nations of their alliance!!! Fight the Man!!!!

*Samsylvannia Official Position*

Samsylvannia opposes the proposed merging with another alliance. We resent such a sweeping proposal coming from Austar Union, a brand new member who apparently has no other interest than to create as large an organization as possible to provide for their own defense with no concern for the purpose of the Bulger 15 Accords. Samslyvannia also resents Austar Union's membership in this organization, hence our previous proposed amendment. Furthermore, Article II of their alliance treaty is a clause calling for banishment of imperialistic nations. As many of our nations are empires, and many of our nations enjoy the frequent annexation of Dubelco, this could pose a problem. And further furthermore, most of the nations of that alliance are members of the U.N. They are in league with The Man!!! As the saying goes, if you can't join them, beat them! We propose to invade and conquer all nations of their alliance!!! Fight the Man!!!!

We hearby Ratify our alliance membership!

...sponsors must then motion and second to bring a vote before Parliament. A 2/3 majority of Member Nations must approve the motion to allow the...

Speaker: Josepi Tarkin

I suggest that this ammendment requires only a 2/3 majority of voting nations rather than all member nations. This is in response to the EXTREMELY low voter turnout for the last issue. I only received 5 votes from two nations.

*Undersecretary Aleksandra stands up to the podium*

US Aleksandra: First, did the Delegation from Austar Union mean Nullify? and secondly, Edenstein does not support an joining of an alliance. The Bulger-15's have been set up to support and protect nations in the LETI region, not to send our forces to fight in die in far off regions, in a war that does not concern us, and the only reason we are there is because of a treaty obligation.

This can not stand, Edenstein does not support this alliance and highly urge the other nations in Bulger 15 to veto this proposal.

*She turns around and sits back down into her seat with the other two delegates from Edenstein*

I suggest that this ammendment requires only a 2/3 majority of voting nations rather than all member nations. This is in response to the EXTREMELY low voter turnout for the last issue. I only received 5 votes from two nations.

*Samsylvannia alters the proposed amendment accordingly.*

We move to vote on this amendment.

OOC: Hey Striker, why don't you keep a list of the pending proposals and current votes, etc., at the begining of the thread with the list of members. Might improve voter turnout.

OOC: Hey "Indy" good idea.

*bump*

*spokesman for Mohammed Ayatollah Adied reads the Bulger-15 accords and watches how they work on policing themselves and scoffs*

"Wow this is an interesting bit of toilet paper you have here, Mohammed Ayatollah Adied does not see the value of this document and though we reside within LETI Mohammed Ayatollah Adied will NOT sign this document, and therefore remain outside of its authority. All Mohammed Ayatollah Adied sees here is a document similar to the UN charter. Mohammed Ayatollah Adied will have no outside interference in the internal affairs of Mohammed Ayatollah Adied's nation. Mohammed Ayatollah Adied has spoken, and it is so."

*A random crowd person in the Gallery yells*

RCP: What are you gonna do? Declare Jihad on us?

*random laughter is heard from the assembled masses, gaurds come in and drag out the young man, later to be known as Ryan Mathews, age 20 from Akron Ohio*

*A random crowd person in the Gallery yells*

RCP: What are you gonna do? Declare Jihad on us?

*random laughter is heard from the assembled masses, gaurds come in and drag out the young man, later to be known as Ryan Mathews, age 20 from Akron Ohio*

*The Spokesman answer's the heckler's comment*

Mohammed Ayatollah Adied will do no such thing, we are a peaceful nation but fiercely independent, we see no reason to announce a struggle or holy war between Mohammed Ayatollah Adied and the rest of Lake Erie.

Speaker: Josepi Tarkin

"Order! Order! There will be no such accusations in these chambers. Any nation is welcome to abstain from membership in the B-15; we will not try to govern any nation unless they become too brash in their actions. Eastern Detroit is welcome to operate outside the rules and regulations of the B-15. But, I might add, they in tern will not be protected from member nations’ actions and there can be no promises made as to the maintenance of their safety.

*Spokesman for Mohammed Ayatollah Adied*

"Why would Mohammed Ayatollah Adied need your protection from this accord, while it hasn't even protected one of its own members from attack and invasion. Attack, Invasion and Genocide have brought about what? Trade Sanctions? Strong Words?"

*Hocks a big Lugey onto the Ground*

"Thats what Mohammed Ayatollah Adied thinks of these accords, and their protection. Mohammed Ayatollah Adied will only Realy on Eastern Detroit to protect itself!*

*The Spokesman gets up and leaves*

Speaker: Josepi Tarkin

"Guards! Escort this scalawag from the chambers, we don’t want him stealing anything on his way out! I will not tolerate such insolence in this house! Be gone!

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Speaker: Josepi Tarkin

"Guards! Escort this scalawag from the chambers, we don’t want him stealing anything on his way out! I will not tolerate such insolence in this house! You hear me Adied?! Be gone!

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OOC: Adied was not there and has not communicated directly with anyone :lol:

*The Spokesman looks up in Fury at the Speaker, he would turn bright red if it wasn't for the fact that he's black, even then you can see his skin darken*

"Mr. Speaker I can find the way out myself, and how dare you call a legitimate representive of a government a scalawag, all I did was state the opinion of Mohammed Ayatollah Adied about the Bulger-15 Document. You Mr. Speaker resorted to a personal attack upon myself. And you call yourself a diplomat!"

*Storms out of the Chamber to the Heli-pad where a Mi-8 Helicopter is waiting for him. The Spokesman boards the chopper and takes off.*

Speaker: Josepi Tarkin

*over public address system*

"Can we get someone to clean up this saliva spill? Who does that little guy think he is? Spitting on these marble floors."

*Ambassador Bill Nye takes the floor.*

Nye: Good evening ambassadors and representatives of the Bulger 15 Accord. I am speaking to you on the subject of Pax Germania's unilateral military movement. Several days ago, Pax Germania ordered ships into waters near Eastern Detroit. We demand that the members of B15 stop this provocation by Pax Germania. They will try to tell you that their actions are in the name of our great organization. That they are "enforcing" the trade sanctions you have chosen to place upon us. However, these sactions pertain only to members of this organization. They make no mention of trade with other countries, let alone authorizing military action against non-members.

What kind of message are we sending to the world if we act as if all nations must follow our rules? Does that not defeat our very purpose?! Samslyvannia cannot allow the unilateral actions of one of our members to endanger the reputation of our great organization. In fact, we propose a resolution denouncing Pax Germania's actions and ordering their fleet back to their home waters.

*He holds up two beakers.* These beakers represent the possible outcomes of this situation. This beaker *he holds Beaker 1 up* represents what will happen if Pax Germania follows the path of reason. The chalk in here represents the Bulger 15 Organization and it's reputation. Germania's actions are represented by the water in the beaker. As you can see, the chalk is still intact. *He holds up Beaker 2* This beaker represents the situation if Pax Germania persists in this unreasonable and unfounded course. This beaker contains lemon juice, representing Pax Germania's military action. As you can see, the chalk has been dissolved. Thank you and good night.

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OOC: Molested Pandas got owned!

Rep: Johannes Reithinger

Those accusations are preposterous! We have nothing but the strength of our alliance in mind. If no one enforces our resolutions they will be worthless. And how can you say that my nation is overstepping its bounds? I understand your concern about the loss of trade moneys from the contraband transactions, however, my nation will only hold the goods intended for Samsylvannia and Crippleslovenia for later distribution. It’s not like we are using the seized freight for our own benefit.

Speaker: Josepi Tarkin


It does appear that Pax Germania has exceeded the B-15 mandate. They are now operating outside our jurisdiction and the parliament demands that Pax ceases its blockade of Eastern Detroit posthaste.

Rep: Johannes Reithinger

In compliance with Bulger 15’s wishes we will withdraw all forces from the border of Eastern Detroit waters. They will, however, remain in the area for the protection of other B-15 nations and their interests I.E. Dubelcan tankers in the region.

Rep: Vladamir Alucard

Inspite of recent events involving the B-15, the Rogue Nation of Vampyrsdon would like to declare that it has abandoned the ranks of the Reich Alliance and has submitted a request to join the ranks of the B-15 at the request of Izembeckwi. Also that we are currently still in development of a task force and humbly ask the B-15 to protect our waters til such time as we are ready to begin our own patrols. For the time being, all we can do is offer our services in any way possible.

*James steps up*

James: Fellow representatives of LETI, a great disturbance has occured. While our fellow nations have been duke'ing it out, LOTI has decided to take sides. While they claim to be upholding a treaty, their leaders openly mocked the B-15 and its members. While my goverment looks into this matter with the treaties, we can do no such actions against these LOTI members, as none of them ever made any hostilities towards us (we won't get into the Summit for now). We wish to know what we shall do about this? Can these nations go un-accountable for attacking our fellow nations? But, at the same time, can we attack them if they are in alliance with another of our fellow nations? I call for a security council meeting to decide what to do about this, any other ideas or input would be gladly welcomed of course. For now Dubelco will remain neutral as we have been but our government has stepped up patrols and we will still protect every land claim and our oil in Eastern Detroit. We hope that an action can be made quickly.

Rep: Johannes Reithinger

I come before you to report a travesty against my great nation’s sovereignty. While enforcing trade sanctions against Samsylvannia P.P.F. vessels encountered an Eastern Detroit task force consisting of several ships of war and an oil tanker. Pax seamen sugg--

*crowd giggles*

Come on people! How old are we?! Ok fine... Pax sailors suggested that they travel to a safe port for the time being, you know, because of the war. We even offered one of our ports! So these Eastern Detroit ships just keep truckin’ and ram right into our ships! That my fellow Representatives is a intrusion upon my nation’s sovereignty. I move that the Bulger Fifteen Parliament declare war on the nation of Eastern Detroit immediately!

*crowd gasps*

Wha’? You knew this was coming.

*crowd: Mumble, murmur, u-huh -yeah I guess so -’s right you know.*

*A different Spokesman for Mohammed Ayatollah Adied Shows up*

"Mohammed Ayatollah Adied would like to point out that the tanker that "ran over" the Pax Germanian Speedboats is nearly a 1,000 feet long and displaces over 200,000 tonnes. And if that vessel wanted to stop, at a crash stop which is reversing the props it would have taken over 1 full nautical mile, and that is just from 14 knots. And we in no way violated Pax Germania's Soveirgnty, we don't recognize the blockade upon Samsylvannia and are outside of the Bulger-15's control. Furthermore, we are requesting a sum of $100,000 to repair the damage of the bow of SS Kuwait. We hold Pax Germania accountable for this grave accident, they had small, fast, maneverable vessels, that could achieve speeds three times the speed of the Tanker. And yet did not get out of the way. They either suffered from severe incomptence on the commander of that small vessel or a major mechanical error. Either way this incident can not be construed as Eastern Detroit's fault. "

*Lt. General Alana Onotov stands up and approaches the podium*

Onotov: Council, Edenstein would like the point out that, Eastern Detroit has showed utter disdain for this council, and an open mocking of it, besides, do they have security clearence to be in these chambers. We can not go around letting these *looks at the spokesman from ED* Heathen Mongrels come into these proceedings,

Futhermore, Eastern Detroit is right now being investigated by Certain Factions in Edenstein for suspected terrorisim and crimes against the Empire, we feel that the trechory of this government can not go unchecked... Edenstein proposes, along with the embargo that is in place already by Edenstein, an Embargo on all goods to and from Eastern Detroit, Edenstein will be the first to commit ships to a B-15 sanctioned embargo. We feel that until the true intentions of Eastern Detroit and its government can be asertained, a small measure of protection should be in place for all of the nations of LETI.

*she sits down and gives a dirty look to the spokesmen from ED and From counterpoint, knowing that in a little bit, they will stand up making a completly contradictory speach*

Edenstein proposes a complete Embargo on Goods going into and out of ED based on grounds that it is funding terrorisim

Edit: Fixed some grammer issues.

*Ambasador Annette Akira steps up to the podium and looks at General Onotov and the rest of the Edenstein Delegation and flips her the bird*

Akira: Council, these rediculous claims made by Edenstein and Pax Germania of terrorism and of intentional harrasement by Eastern Detroit, since they have been in this region they have pretty much stayed to their own buisness, well ok, so the killing of 70 bound and gagged "Infidels" on region wide television was a little much, but we all make mistakes,

*from the gallery*

Random person: YEAH! Like Counterpoint trying to invade Edenstein, that was pretty dumb!!!!!

*Rest of the chamber cracks up laughing, the Edenstein Delegation almost fall on the floor laughing at the comment, this continues until the chiarmen raps for order*

But, lets give Them a chance to state their side... there is probably a perfectly logical explanation to this, and I feel that we should give them a chance to state it.

*she sits down and gives another dirty look to the Edenstein Delegates*

*James steps up to the podium*

James: Fellow delegates, I know that in these times of war people patiences can be over whelmed. Eastern Detroit has come during a time of war and simply going about the buisness they way they would have if this war had not occured. While we support Edenstein, one of our closest allies, we wish to state here and now that we have at this time trade deals with Eastern Detroit for oil. We have for some time had a non-aggression pact with them and have just recently aquired an alliance with them in a non B15 binding manner. We have had no trouble in dealing with the goverment or anything while trades have been going on. While we will abide by any decision I must impress upon you what it may mean to other countries that have agreements with them. I move that a meeting by the security council be made for this, and other incidents happening in our region now. Thank you.

*James steps down*

OOC: We should talk about this when Ed gets back down here.

Rep: Johannes Reithinger

*Storming up to the podium for his second bout*

Gentlemen and ladies, let us not fail to notice that neither the SS Kuwait nor any of her escorts even made an attempt to change course or to avoid collision in any way.

*The SS Kuwait and its two escorts ignore the Pax Germanian fleet and continue for the Samsylvannian Coast at 14 knots*

Rep: Johannes Reithinger

*Storming up to the podium for his second bout*

Gentlemen and ladies, let us not fail to notice that neither the SS Kuwait nor any of her escorts even made an attempt to change course or to avoid collision in any way.

*The SS Kuwait and its two escorts ignore the Pax Germanian fleet and continue for the Samsylvannian Coast at 14 knots*

Let us also remember that a Tanker has right of way in international shipping lanes. And it takes miles upon miles to turn it. And Lastly you had no authority to order us to turn our vessel.

Rep: Johannes Reithinger

*round three... Ping-Ping*

Order? Order?! If Pax Germanian forces had ordered those vessels they would have complied. It was only a suggestion. And where does your country get off, making the baseless accusation that we attacked Edenstein?! We are in a binding alliance with the people of Edenstein which banns violent actions between us both overt and covert. And also keep in mind that Pax Germanian dignitaries were founding members of that alliance, we would never withdraw from our oath.

*Spokesman Speaks Again*

Need I remind you, THAT THE TANKER NEVER DECLARED IT WAS HEADING FOR THOSE CRAFT, JUST A COASTLINE!!!! Your Vessels got in the way of my tanker Ordered it to go to one of YOUR ports and my tanker following direct orders did not head yours. So, your vessels attempted to damage our oil tanker and probably caused a some damage to the hull of the vessel. And if there is Damage, Pax Germania will be receiving the bill for Said Damage. The tanker could not have deliberetly rammed those craft if it wanted to. A supertanker is slow and lumbering and stating that a supertanker would delibertly ram a speedboat is prepostirous. Your speed boat could probably have accelerated out of the way without a problem. There was clear weather and daylight and if the speedboat wanted to avoid the accident it could have. Anyone suggesting that a 200,000 ton Oil tanker that can only achieve speeds of 14 knots, has MILES wide turning radius and takes a mile to stop is able to deliberetly collide with with a vessel 82 ft long displacing no more than 20-30 tonnes of water and can achieve speeds of greater than 50 knots is mentaly handicapped.

*Spokesman Speaks Again*

Need I remind you, THAT THE TANKER NEVER DECLARED IT WAS HEADING FOR THOSE CRAFT, JUST A COASTLINE!!!! Your Vessels got in the way of my tanker Ordered it to go to one of YOUR ports and my tanker following direct orders did not head yours. So, your vessels attempted to damage our oil tanker and probably caused a some damage to the hull of the vessel. And if there is Damage, Pax Germania will be receiving the bill for Said Damage. The tanker could not have deliberetly rammed those craft if it wanted to. A supertanker is slow and lumbering and stating that a supertanker would delibertly ram a speedboat is prepostirous. Your speed boat could probably have accelerated out of the way without a problem. There was clear weather and daylight and if the speedboat wanted to avoid the accident it could have. Anyone suggesting that a 200,000 ton Oil tanker that can only achieve speeds of 14 knots, has MILES wide turning radius and takes a mile to stop is able to deliberetly collide with with a vessel 82 ft long displacing no more than 20-30 tonnes of water and can achieve speeds of greater than 50 knots is mentaly handicapped.

*Spokesman Speaks Again*

Need I remind you, THAT THE TANKER NEVER DECLARED IT WAS HEADING FOR THOSE CRAFT, JUST A COASTLINE!!!! Your Vessels got in the way of my tanker Ordered it to go to one of YOUR ports and my tanker following direct orders did not head yours. So, your vessels attempted to damage our oil tanker and probably caused a some damage to the hull of the vessel. And if there is Damage, Pax Germania will be receiving the bill for Said Damage. The tanker could not have deliberetly rammed those craft if it wanted to. A supertanker is slow and lumbering and stating that a supertanker would delibertly ram a speedboat is prepostirous. Your speed boat could probably have accelerated out of the way without a problem. There was clear weather and daylight and if the speedboat wanted to avoid the accident it could have. Anyone suggesting that a 200,000 ton Oil tanker that can only achieve speeds of 14 knots, has MILES wide turning radius and takes a mile to stop is able to deliberetly collide with with a vessel 82 ft long displacing no more than 20-30 tonnes of water and can achieve speeds of greater than 50 knots is mentaly handicapped.

OOC: Trying to get the post count up huh wayne? :-D j/k

Representative: William Von Aufswolf

Why is scalawag being allowed to poison our minds with his false words. I move that Eastern Detroit's arguements be stricken from the record. This infidel has no right to be here. How did he get in anyways?

Speaker Josepi Tarkin

So be it, the parliament no longer recognizes the speaker from Eastern Detroit. Security escort the man from our chambers, and don't let this one expactorate on anything like the last one did.

http://www.angelfire.com/linux/penguin26/pictures/compiti_en.jpg

*VR Engineers ponder how a Tanker "aims" itself in a course with a speedboat.*

Engineer 1: Man, they must have some good stuph there.

Engineer 2: Why haven't we made anything that strong yet?

Speaker Josepi Tarkin

There has been a motion to place trade sanctions on the Nation of Eastern Detroit. The time is 11:30 PM and voting is now open. Send your secret votes to me personally. Thank you.

OOC: Finally!

http://www.geocities.com/izimbeckwi/LETIMAP.html

OOC: was reading over the Bulger-15

My favorite sections.

Chapter III Article One and Two

"Article I

With regards to external relations, the regional parliament will serve as an advisory body to all member states.

Article 2

The Regional Parliament defines “advisory” as the ability to critique and influence diplomatic strategy and policy in regards to all areas of concern to the global community. Such areas include but are not limited to politics, economics, humanitarian issues, environmental issues, military and security matters. The Regional Parliament is always to be available for advisory purposes upon request of all international actors referred to in Article I.
"


"Article 3

The parliament will have authority over member states only. If all states of regional organizations belong to the World Parliament they consent to its jurisdiction over the aforementioned issues.
"

-------Deleted due to the fact my gay arse comp is slow and double posted----

We would like to wish all of LETI a merry Christmas and a happy new year. We also ask that all nations grant a temporary cease-fire in observance Christmas. :D

James: On behalf of my goverment, we would like to know the rules, if any, on the annexation of lands. Does the B15 forbid this in anyway or is it first come first serve. We await the speakers desicion.

*Bill Nye, one of the Samsylvannian delegates, takes the podium.*

Bill Nye: Delegates of B15, in light of... *The podium explodes. Bill's face is blackened and his hair is standing on end, smoking. He coughs.*...Ha ha...very funny...okay, who did this?! Edenstein, I'm looking in your direction! *Glares at smirking Edensteinians.* Anyway, in light of recent outbreak of peace between Samsylvannia, Crippleslovenia, and Henceland Omega, we propose the lifting of trade sanctions and the removal of the Pax Germainian blockage which is now interfering with the Chancellor's fishing trips. You know how he likes to fish! Well, I'm going to go sit down now...that is if my chair doesn't exlode first...*Glares at smirking Edensteinians.*

*Samsylvannia proposes ceasation of economic sanctions against Samsylvannia and Crippleslovenia.*

OOC: Just had an idea about the low voter turnout problem...you could send vote notices over to the LETI Forum, just to let them know something is up.

Speaker: Josepi Tarkin

Issue one, regarding Dubelco's request for information on land annexation. Bulger fifteen will henceforth move a peacekeeping force into any land that has expired. This force will remain in place until a new nation moves into LETI. Then the land will be granted to them. (ooc: so we don't have to keep re-drawing the map.)


Issue two, regarding Samsylvannia's request for the lifting of Bulger Fifteen sanctions on his nation and Crippleslovenia. Seeing that the conditions of the legislation have been met (an end to hostilities) the blockade will be lifted post haste.


Issue three, the Bulger Fifteen Senatorial Band (plays national anthems and fanfares in senate chambers, think Marine band) will be sent to H.A.M. for the upcoming LETIstock festivities.

Prince William J. Smith of Westen Manarth has traveled to the Bulger 15 parlimentry HQ in order to join his country to the alliance.

*Lt General Onotov steps up to the podium to speak*

Onotov: Greetings Comrades, as you all know, Edenstein has been at a state of uneasy peace with Land-o-Eric, eversince the war... that seems so long ago, as of 23 hundred hours last night Elements of Edensteins 3rd Army under the command of Lt. Zofia crossed the border into Land-o-Eric. Along with a Massive movement of forces by air infantry and the 6th and 7th fleets we have cordened off and claimed the former land of Land-o-Eric for our own...

*waits a moment for gasps and murmors to quiet down*

Since the Begginning days of the LETI region, hostilities have been in place between our two nations, this hightened sense of danger and saber ratteling between us, are no more.

Further more, Edenstein has learned of the plight of native Edensteinians living in some of the countries that border Edenstein, we are looking into measures to reassimilate these people into our cultural identity and to bring about a national identity not seen since the days of the old republic....

We will re-unite these peoples with the motherland......

*onotov Steps down*

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Rep: Johannes Reithinger

Let the delegation from Pax Germania suggest that your reassimilation efforts be peaceful. If Edenstein starts going around and annexing nations, relocating citizens, and toppling governments we’ll have another Dubelco on our hands. And lord knows that one of them is enough.

6:50pm--

Nurse Betty: Doctor! Doctor, I have something you need to know!

Dr. Frederick Millard: Calm down Betty. What is it?

NB: The Zembeck, he told me something.

[Close-up of Dr.’s eyes widening.]

7:08pm--

A message from a doctor in North Eastern Pax Germania reaches the desk of James Hartman.

7:35pm--

Bulger Fifteen Representative Johannes Reithinger addresses the B-15 Security Counsel regarding Izimbeckwi’s removal from the alliance.

*Under Secretary Alkesandra Goodell Steps up to the podium and as usual flips off the ambassador from counterpoint*

Goodell: Edenstein is appalled by the atrocities that have been taking place in izembekwi, we can no longer stand for this, Edenstein news has reporters on the ground beaming back pictrues of the blood shed that is taking place in that country.

Edenstein proposes that either Pax Germania or Ourselves lead a multinational co-alition to stop these atrocities. And to bring order back to our region.

*She steps down and gives a nother 66 to the counterpointians*

Speaker Josepi Tarkin:
During a private hearing with the Bulger Fifteen Security Counsel, it has been decided that the continuing crimes against humanity committed by The Republic of Izimbeckwi are in direct violation of the Accord (Chapter IV, Article 2, Subsection 1.) Therefore The Republic of Izimbeckwi is henceforth expelled from the Bulger Fifteen Alliance.

Rep: Johannes Reithinger

Our forces stand ready to carryout the will of the Bulger Fifteen Parliament. We have mobilized our ships to encircle our island neighbor. We have begun the loading of troops and equipment into landing craft in anticipation of the crossing of the Mikan Channel. These poor souls will be liberated from their tyrannical oppressors, they shall taste freedom once again!

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