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05-11-2003, 18:49
first time in ns a helicopters with vectored thrust!

the deadliest assault helicopters in NS
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KL-77 "Salamander" Multi-purpose Combat-Transport Helicopter. [also has Naval capability]
cost: 15 million
http://www.digikitten.com/playhousev2/files/pixelmonkey/kl77s.jpg


it uses No Tail Rotor design
KL-77 "Salamander" Combat-Transport Helicopter is intended to transport loads inside the cargo compartment and on external load sling system, to carry passengers in number up to 16 persons, to conduct logging in combat zones which are difficult of access, to carry out sanitary flights, to fight fire in the large tracts of forest, etc.

The flight complex of the KL-77 "Salamander" helicopter ensures stabilization of the load on the external load sling system what excludes swinging of the load and simplifies piloting of the helicopter.
The certified KL-77 "Salamander" helicopter is intended to cany loads and people conducting Combat operations. The carriage of loads is made inside the fuselage and on the external load sling system. At installation of the additional equipment the helicopter ensures the possibilities to perform search-rescue, emergency-rescue operations and flight to render medical assistance.

KL-77 "Salamander" main roles are: carrying people and cargoes in the transport cabin and on external sling, evacuation of casualties and victims, search and emergency-rescue operations, land navy and infantry units with armament from combatant ships, ensure fire support for seaborne assault troops, ferry personnel and cargo from ship bases, and supply vessels to combatant ships....

External stores are mounted on underwing external stores points. Each wing has three hardpoints for a total of 8 stations. A representative mix when targeting armor formations would be 10 ATGMs, 750x 30-mm rounds, and 4 57-mm rocket pods. The aircraft can store an additional ammunition basic load in the cargo compartment in lieu of carrying troops. Armored cockpits and titanium rotor head able to withstand 20-mm cannon hits. Every aircraft has an overpressurization system for operation in a NBC environment.

The helicopter is fitted with a coaxial main rotor with folding blades. The composite blades are fitted with an electric thermal de-icing system. The aerodynamic and design parameters allow the helicopters to be stowed in small shipborne hangars. The landing gear provides for safe take-off and landing on rocking ship decks. Corrosion-resistant materials have been used in the construction to ensure normal operation in active sea environments. The helicopter is fitted with ballonet flotation devices for emergency landing on water.
http://www.digikitten.com/playhousev2/files/pixelmonkey/kl77s2.jpg
The KL-77 "Salamander" is equipped with the KPS-53A electro-optical sighting pod. it have a digital PNK-24 avionics suite and multifunction LCD cockpit displays, and Geofizika ONV1 night-vision goggles, along with NVG-compatible cockpit lighting. They are fitted with the Urals Optical and Mechanical Plant GOES-342 TV/FLIR sighting system and a laser rangefinder. Countermeasures include infrared jammer, radar warner and flare dispensers.

Characteristics:
Main and tail rotors electrically deiced.
Infrared signature suppressors can be mounted on engine exhausts.
Radar warning receivers, IFF, Infrared jammer, rotor brake, chaff and flares.
Armored cockpit.

Crew: Two
Weights
Maximum takeoff weight 15,000 kilograms
erformance
Maximum flight speed 350 kilometres/hour
Cruise speed 330 kilometres/hour
ceiling 14,000 metres
Tactical radius 900 km
Operation range to land 16 troops, payload 1,899 kilograms 800 km

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Multi-role Assault helicopter the KL-60 "Wasp"
cost: 15 million
http://www.digikitten.com/playhousev2/files/pixelmonkey/waspkl602.jpg
discounts for nations which have less then 100 mil pop.

Configuration:

it has a Vectored Thrust Ducted Propeller

it is capable of faster cruise speeds, longer range, superior maneuverability and reduced costs then other Helicopters, The KL-60 "Wasp" achieves these goals by adding wings and a tail-mounted ducted propeller.

One of the most important, is lower operating costs. By lowering fatigue loads and vibration levels, the technology can reduce costs and extend the life of parts of the kl-60 "Wasp".

the VTDP design augments the aircraft's KL-60 "Wasp" lift, combating retreating blade stall by unloading the main rotor system as the burden of lift is transferred to the wing. In addition to the stability conferred by the fixed wing, the aircraft reaches greater speeds because of auxiliary propulsion provided by the tail-mounted VTDP, commonly referred to as the "ringtail." The combination of the VTDP and a lifting wing provides for increased speed , as well as greater maneuverability and reduced vibration and fatigue loads.

Other:

It is intended for a wide range of combat tasks in daytime and night conditions, in any time of the year with the use of all destruction means of the KL-60 "Wasp". This is a commander helicopter of the army aviation aimed at increasing the efficiency of group combat helicopter operations.

Both pilots have full controls of the helicopter without any limitations. The pilot cockpit is armored. The helicopter can be used as a trainer. High flying qualities of the coaxial helicopter combined with unique manoeuvrability allow the helicopter to perform combat maneuvers within the minimum air area and the shortest time to gain an advantageous attack position.

Numerous weapons options for the KL-60 "Wasp" helicopter are achieved by arranging a movable high-speed firing gun starboard of the helicopter, and by six available external wing stores with different combination of anti-tank missiles, rockets, "air-to-air" missiles, gun ammunition of a container type and bombs of various caliber. From the point of view of the weapons power the "Wasp" is comparable with the "Sabre" helicopter and is superior to all existing combat helicopters.

The on-board multifunctional avionics suite ensures round-the-clock helicopter piloting, navigational and combat tasks in anytime of the year. The avionics suite is comprised of a multiplexed, multi-level digital computer-based system having large storage capacity and high speed. Observation, search and targeting systems comprising head-mounted display are used for round-the-clock and all-weather detection of specified targets and their attack using optical, TV, laser, IR and radar equipment.


Stealth:

The KL-60 "Wasp" has an infrared absorbent coating and a low infrared exhaust in order to reduce the thermal signature. A radar absorbent coating has been used to provide a low radar cross section.

Characteristics:

Dimensions
Main rotor diameter 14.5 metres
Length with rotating rotors 15.9 metres
Overall height 4.9 metres
Wing span 7.3 metres
Weights
Empty weight 7,692 kg
Normal take off weight 9,800 kg
Maximum take off weight 10,800 kg
Weight of consumable combat load 910 kg
Weight of maximum combat load 2,811 kg
Engines
Two TV3-117VMA engines 2 x 2,200 h.p
Landing gear Retractable tricycle nosewheel type landing gear
Performance
Maximum level flight speed 500 km/h
Diving speed 450 km/h
Cruise speed 530 km/h
Hovering ceiling 8,000 metres
Service ceiling 12,500 metres
Vertical rate of climb 35 m/s;
Range of flight with normal take-off weight 600 km
Ferry range 2,160 km
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KL-65 "Scout" next generation armed reconnaissance helicopter [also with Vectored thrust]
Cost: 11 million
http://www.military.cz/usa/air/air_accessories/vtdp/ah-64_vtdp.jpg

it has an auxiliary propulsion system to provide additional thrust—beyond the thrust already produced by the rotors. The extra thrust helps unload the rotor in forward flight and increase forward speeds.

The tail-mounted ducted propeller, called the ring-tail, provides auxiliary thrust and control in forward flight, While a conventional helicopter gets all its lift and propulsion out of the main rotor, this tail helps to unload the main rotor from its propulsion responsibilities, because it can provide forward thrust, whereas the conventional tail rotor can’t.

The KL-65 "Scout" helicopter's primary role will be to seek out enemy forces and designate targets for the KL-60 and kl-55 Attack helicopters at night, in adverse weather, and in battlefield obscurants, using advanced infrared sensors. The helmet has FLIR images and overlaid symbology that can be used as a headup display in nape-of-the-earth (NOE) flight.

The aircraft has been designed to emit a low-radar signature (stealth features). The KL-65 "Scout" will perform the attack mission itself for the Army's light divisions. The KL-65 "Scout" will be used as a scout and attack helicopter to include an air-to-ground and air-to-air combat capability. The KL-65 "Scout" is slated to replace the mi-28 Series attack helicopter.

The KL-65 "Scout" mission equipment package consists of a turret-mounted cannon, night-vision pilotage system, helmet-mounted display, electro-optical target acquisition and designation system, aided target recognition, and integrated communication/navigation/identification avionics system. Targeting includes a second generation forward-looking infrared (FLIR) sensor, a low-light-level television, a laser range finder and designator, and the "Wasp" millimeter wave radar system. Digital sensors, computers and software will enable the aircraft to track and recognize advesarys long before they are aware of the KL-65 "Scout"'s presence, a key advantage in both the reconnaissance and attack roles.

Aided target detection and classification software will automatically scan the battlefield, identifying and prioritizing targets. The target acquisition and communications system will allow burst transmissions of data to other aircraft and command and control systems. Digital communications links will enable the crew unparalleled situational awareness, making the KL-65 "Scout" an integral component of the digital battlefield.

The armament subsystems consist of a 20mm cannon, and up to 14 Hellfire anti-tank missiles, 28 Air-to-Air anti-aircraft missiles, or 56 2.75 inch Hydra 70 air-to-ground rockets carried internally and externally. Up to four anti-tank and two Air-to-Air missiles can be stowed in fully-retractable weapons bays and the gun can be rotated to a stowed position when not in use. This design feature reduces both drag and radar signature.

Mission management, status, and control information is provided over the MIL-STD-1553B databus between the mission equipment packages and the Turreted Gun System. The KL-65 "Scout" will have enhanced maintainability through it's modular electronics architecture and built-in diagnostics.

Characteristics:
Weight Empty 7,765 pounds
Combat Mission 10,600 pounds
Mission Equipment
Centralized processing architecture with Ada software
Target acquisition system with aided-target detection/classification and automatic target tracking;
night vision pilotage system, wide field-of-view (35ox52o) helmet-mounted display
Propulsion Two T800 1,440 SHP gas turbine engines
5-blade main rotor
Vectored Thrust Ducted Propeller
Fantail anti-torque
Crew Two
Speed 500+ km/hr knots - Dash speed 510 km/hr
(@ 4,000 feet/95oF )
450 - Cruise speed
Vertical Rate of Climb 850-950 feet per minute
Range 400 nm Max Range (internal fuel)
1,600 nm self-deployment range
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after a series of successful tests we have decided to release this helicopter for export.
http://www.mattwood3d.com/image_pages/images/Viper1.JPG


heavy gunship cost: 14 million
naval cost: 14.5 million


http://www.mattwood3d.com/image_pages/images/vpbk2.jpg KL-55 "Sabre" is a new generation combat helicopter is intended to perform combat missions round-the- clock in VFR and IFR conditions both autonomously (without target designation means) and in group (with autonomous target designation and distribution).

KL-55 "Sabre" is capable to engage:

ground targets without including armoured ones;
sheltered and unsheltered manpower;
various aerial targets.
Submarines
naval vessels.

KL-55 "Sabre" ensures:

low-level and extreme low-level terrain-following flights autonomously with the use of radar and thermal imaging system;
the use of armament systems providing destruction of various targets and performing fire in no target direct visibility conditions;
second crew member flight control, including training;
target determination and transfer of data to receiving posts and other helicopters;
built-in check and on-condition maintenance.

Due to its high power-to-weight ratio it can be operated in various areas including high lands and areas with high ambient temperatures. KL-55 "Sabre" can fly vertical accelerated manoeuvres from 0 ... 2.6 g-load, sideslip, fly backwards up to 100 km/h. It can perform manoeuvres, such as loop and pushover manoeuvres, etc.

The features enhancing combat survivability include:

shielding of vital components by less important ones;
main and tail rotors blades are made of super-strong composites free from secondary destruction effect;
duplicated hydraulic and control systems;
engine separation;
armoured pilot?s cockpit is fitted with ceramic armoured fuselage, bullet-proof windshields and armoured partition between crew members;
self-sealing polyurethane foam-filled fuel tanks;
unique fuel system operating in depression conditions preventing explosion, ignition and leakage.


KL-55 "Sabre" is fitted with rescue system (shock- absorbing landing gear and ejection seat providing crew safety during emergency landing at vertical speed up to 12.7 m/s). At the altitudes of more than 100 m the crew is equipped with parachute system.

KL-55 "Sabre" is equipped with two engines TV3-117VMA-SB3 with a new automatic control system to provide during firing restoring of engine operation mode during surge and combustion chamber failure. It permits to enhance employment envelope of unguided weapons to the limits of helicopter combat altitude and speed ranges.



Weapons:

KL-55 "Sabre" has big sweptback mid-mounted stubwings with four suspension units. Countermeasures pods are mounted on the wingtips. The helicopter can be armed with a mixture of air-to-air and air-to-ground missiles, unguided rockets and podded guns. When a high priority target is detected, the pilot uses a helmet mounted target designator which allocates the target to the navigator's surveillance and fire control system. The navigator/weapons officer is then able to deploy guided weapons or gun against the target. The targeting system follows the direction of the pilot's eyes.

Anti-Tank Missile

The KL-55 "Sabre" is armed with various anti-tank missiles. Up to 25 anti-tank missiles can be mounted on the helicopter.


Air to Air Missiles

The helicopter can launch fire-and-forget air to air missiles with independent self homing systems.

Unguided Weapons

The KL-55 "Sabre" helicopter can also carry 5 containers each with 25 80 mm unguided rockets or with 10 122 mm rockets. The helicopter can alternatively carry containers with grenade launchers, 23 mm guns, 12.7 and 7.62 machine guns, aerial bombs and incendiary tanks.

Cannon

The KL-55 "Sabre" helicopter is equipped with a turreted 30 mm cannon, the 2A42.The gun mount is stabilised in two planes. A firing unit is installed between two faired cartridge housings mounted directly on the gun carriage. The gun is fed selectively from the cartridge housings. The cannon provides a muzzle velocity of 1,000 metres per second.




characteristics:

Take off weight:

normal

maximum
15,000

16,100

Engines:

type

number x power, hp.
TV3-117VMA-SB3

2 x 2,300

Flight speed (ISA, at altitude 500 m), km/h:

Vertical Climb Rate
30 m/s

maximum - 305

cruise - 270


Hovering ceiling (out of ISA),m
4,600

Service ceiling (ISA),m
6,000

Flight range (ISA, at altitude 500 m, with 5% fuel emergency reserve), km:

standard load of fuel tanks

ferry range


1000

3,100

DIMENSIONS (w/o rotors), m:


length
17.01

width
5.89

height
3.82

Main rotor diameter, m
17.2

Crew
2
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Naval KLA-55N helicopter
http://www.mattwood3d.com/image_pages/images/viperoe.JPG

The mission of this helicopter is to detect, track and destroy submerged submarines at a depth of 500m+ and running at speeds up to 80km/h at any time of year and in all weather conditions. The KL-55N has both day and night operations capability. The helicopter can operate in conditions up to sea state 5.

It can detect Low-flying aircraft, helicopters and cruise missiles. The helicopter could also be used to relay reconnaissance information from other helicopters or unmanned air vehicles to a ground station, and to transmit targeting information to attack helicopters.
include navigational equipment for digital terrain maps, ground-proximity warning, obstacle approach systems and information concerning the helicopter's tactical situation.
The core of the on-board avionics suite is powerful solid-state radar. The radio-electronic package automatically controls the helicopter flight over the specified route in any weather and climatic conditions. When the radio- electronic package is on, the antenna is extended and the navigator has elected the operational mode, all further operations are performed


automatically without operator interference. The navigator role is simply to control the systems operation and to duplicate target observation on the display screen.the display screen.


WEAPON SYSTEMS

The helicopter is armed with 4 homing torpedos, 4 torpedo rocket, 14 PLAB 250-120 bombs and 3 OMAB bombs. It is fitted with a heated torpedo bay, ensuring the reliability of weapons in low-temperature weather conditions
Please note:
Dealer and manufacturer (production) rights are reserved to Geforce4 only!
Thank you for your understanding.
Hirgizstan
05-11-2003, 18:56
I would like to purchase 1 KL-60 and one Naval Heavy Gunship, costing 22.5 million in total. My nation has less than 100 million in population, what is the discount for us, what is the reformed price?
Money will be wired on confirmation of product delivery. These purchases are for test purposes, further business may continue pending rigorous test results.
Tarasovka
05-11-2003, 19:28
OOC:

I should have resized that "Wasp" pic before giving it to you I guess :shock:
Soviet Bloc
05-11-2003, 19:50
Hmm... I'll purchase 100 of your KL-60s.

$1.5 billion USD will be sent upon confirmation.
05-11-2003, 20:19
10 x heavy gunship cost: 14 million each
06-11-2003, 12:30
confirmed, nations below 100m pop get 15% discount.
06-11-2003, 12:41
ill buy 100 wasps and my nation pop is 50 million so thats 15% discount
06-11-2003, 12:43
ill buy 100 wasps and my nation pop is 50 million so thats 15% discount


yup, confirmed they will be in your nation in two days [couple of ns hours]

wire the money.
06-11-2003, 12:45
i would like to purchase 8 of your KL-60 helicopters, however i would like to ask if it would be possible to reconfigure the lower weapons (those gatling guns) to hold SC-1 vehicle mounted lasers instead

8xKL-60-15%=8x15-15%=102 million USD

money will be wired upon confirmation
06-11-2003, 12:48
i would like to purchase 8 of your KL-60 helicopters, however i would like to ask if it would be possible to reconfigure the lower weapons (those gatling guns) to hold SC-1 vehicle mounted lasers instead

8xKL-60-15%=8x15-15%=102 million USD

money will be wired upon confirmation



confirmed
and yes it is possible to reconfigure the weapons.
06-11-2003, 12:52
*wired money* oh and why cant you deliver them now? (anyway you dont even have to deliver them)
06-11-2003, 12:53
in that case

the money will be wired momentarily

how long do you expect to take in delivering these helicopters?
06-11-2003, 12:58
in that case

the money will be wired momentarily

how long do you expect to take in delivering these helicopters?


couple of days. [couple of hours real time]
06-11-2003, 13:02
great, then i will be able to use them in the newbie wargames
06-11-2003, 13:03
OOC: Why would you add vectored thrust to a rotary wing aircraft?
06-11-2003, 13:10
OOC: Why would you add vectored thrust to a rotary wing aircraft?


Vectored Thrust Ducted Propeller = faster cruise speeds, longer range, superior maneuverability and reduced costs then other Helicopters, The KL-60 "Wasp" achieves these goals by adding wings and a tail-mounted ducted propeller.
06-11-2003, 14:49
you know, if you'd want i could produce a new version of all those helicopters, by removing some weapons and adding lasers in their place, chemical lasers btw so they won't need huge powerplants

i've already made the unofficial KL-60B wasp, where the 2 gatling guns on the bottom of the helicopter are replaced by a twin SC-1 vehicle mounted chemical laser, which have a far better effective range and much more effect against armored vehicles and buildings

i might even consider adding 1 or 2 HC-1 laser cannons to the helicopter, ofc at the cost of other weapons, the HC-1 lasers are anti-armor laser cannons with a substantial penetration power and the ability to constantly hit a single tiny little piece of armor on your target, with sloped armor having little effect
06-11-2003, 17:42
you know, if you'd want i could produce a new version of all those helicopters, by removing some weapons and adding lasers in their place, chemical lasers btw so they won't need huge powerplants

i've already made the unofficial KL-60B wasp, where the 2 gatling guns on the bottom of the helicopter are replaced by a twin SC-1 vehicle mounted chemical laser, which have a far better effective range and much more effect against armored vehicles and buildings

i might even consider adding 1 or 2 HC-1 laser cannons to the helicopter, ofc at the cost of other weapons, the HC-1 lasers are anti-armor laser cannons with a substantial penetration power and the ability to constantly hit a single tiny little piece of armor on your target, with sloped armor having little effect


ill think about it, lasers should be installed on JSF in 2015 so its kinds future tech.. but anyways it doesnt look so godmod..
06-11-2003, 17:45
lasers are already a feasible offensive weapon, that is unfortunately yet unused
06-11-2003, 17:53
lasers are already a feasible offensive weapon, that is unfortunately yet unused


alright, produce a new version of all those helicopters and telegram the specs to me and i add the versions here, they will cost a bit more... you will get 25% of the money i get for your new versions and a 35% discount on the new helicopters.
06-11-2003, 17:56
let's see, with the empty weight of 7,692kg are you including the weaponry that it holds

if so, please specify the weight of the helicopter without its weapons
06-11-2003, 17:59
let's see, with the empty weight of 7,692kg are you including the weaponry that it holds

if so, please specify the weight of the helicopter without its weapons



Empty weight 7,692 kg
Normal take off weight 9,800 kg
Maximum take off weight 10,800 kg
Weight of consumable combat load 910 kg
Weight of maximum combat load 2,811 kg
06-11-2003, 18:00
send me ten of those wasps please
money will be wired on confirmation of order
06-11-2003, 18:01
can i buy:
10 x KL-60 "Wasp"

thx m8
06-11-2003, 18:02
Trade Unionists and The s_h_a_d_o_w land, sale confirmed.
06-11-2003, 18:11
telegram me the specs when you finish and ill added them.
imported_Konohagekure Village
06-11-2003, 18:34
3 wasps
3 scouts
3 gunships
3 naval versions, please
163.5 million shuriken wired upon confirmation.
06-11-2003, 18:42
3 wasps
3 scouts
3 gunships
3 naval versions, please
163.5 million shuriken wired upon confirmation.



confirmed.
06-11-2003, 18:48
3 wasps
3 scouts
3 gunships
3 naval versions, please
163.5 million shuriken wired upon confirmation.



confirmed.


thats my damn puppet.
06-11-2003, 19:15
I am looking to buy 2 helicopters for both of my Destroyers. I require the following:

1. They must be capable of landing on the helipad of an Arleigh Burke Class Guided Missle Destroyer, and operating in a maritime theater

2. They must have long range anti ship capabilities
Hirgizstan
06-11-2003, 19:37
-Money wired-
Hirgizstan decided to wave that 15% and give ur nation the rest as a tip.
Enjoy and i look forward to more business.
06-11-2003, 21:21
I am looking to buy 2 helicopters for both of my Destroyers. I require the following:

1. They must be capable of landing on the helipad of an Arleigh Burke Class Guided Missle Destroyer, and operating in a maritime theater

2. They must have long range anti ship capabilities


the naval kl-55 sabre is just what your looking for then.
06-11-2003, 22:03
Rianisis
06-11-2003, 22:04
Rianisis
06-11-2003, 22:05
We would like to purchase the following number of these impressive gunships...

Naval KL-55 "Sabre" - 14.5 million x 240 units = 3.48 billion
KL-60 "Wasp" - 15 million x 800 units = 12 billion

Total amount of 13.48 billion wired upon conformation. Thank you.
06-11-2003, 22:05
The Empire of Urda will buy:

10 Multi-role Assault helicopter the KL-60 "Wasp"
20 KL-65 "Scout" next generation armed reconnaissance helicopter
10 KL-55 "Sabre"

Total Purchase=510,000,000 USD

Thank you *Money Wired*
06-11-2003, 22:26
all is confirmed.
06-11-2003, 23:14
Well take 500 Wasps. Money wired.
06-11-2003, 23:54
07-11-2003, 00:04
Well take 500 Wasps. Money wired.


confirmed, 10% discount for TGB, btw

NEW HELICOPTER ADDED!1
07-11-2003, 01:15
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07-11-2003, 01:18
The CFRF would like twenty of the Salamander. The money will be wired pending confirmation.
Bayorta
07-11-2003, 11:27
bumping for future reference.
07-11-2003, 12:27
The CFRF would like twenty of the Salamander. The money will be wired pending confirmation.

confirmed.
07-11-2003, 14:40
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07-11-2003, 17:30
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07-11-2003, 18:06
tag
07-11-2003, 18:21
just reterning the favor

for nicer priced helicopters go to http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2035239#2035239
07-11-2003, 19:15
Fifty Salamanders and fifty sabres
money will be wired on confirmation
07-11-2003, 19:40
Fifty Salamanders and fifty sabres
money will be wired on confirmation


confirmed.
Haukka
07-11-2003, 20:21
We order
76 of KL-60 "Wasp" gunships

-Minister of Defence, Haukka
Bayorta
07-11-2003, 20:32
Bayorta wishes to purchase 1000 Multi-role Assault helicopters KL-60 "Wasp". I trust this comes to a total of 15,000,000,000 USD? We are also considering purchasing a large amount of the KL-77's in future...

Regards,
Geoff Hoon,
Secretary of defence,
Ministry of Defence

http://www.mod.uk/img/sdr_new_chapter/sofs_hoon.jpg
07-11-2003, 20:36
Bayorta wishes to purchase 1000 Multi-role Assault helicopters KL-60 "Wasp". I trust this comes to a total of 15,000,000,000 USD? We are also considering purchasing a large amount of the KL-77's in future...

Regards,
Geoff Hoon,
Secretary of defence,
Ministry of Defence

http://www.mod.uk/img/sdr_new_chapter/sofs_hoon.jpg

confirmed
you get 15% discount for the bulk order and 50 free kl-77 helicopters.
07-11-2003, 20:36
We order
76 of KL-60 "Wasp" gunships

-Minister of Defence, Haukka


confirrmed you get 5% discount.
07-11-2003, 20:51
I want 10 of the Multi-role Assault helicopter the KL-60 "Wasp"
cost: 15 million
bringing my total to 150 million Can i get the discount i only have 7 million people
07-11-2003, 20:54
I want 10 of the Multi-role Assault helicopter the KL-60 "Wasp"
cost: 15 million
bringing my total to 150 million Can i get the discount i only have 7 million people


you will get 10 kl-60s for free.
07-11-2003, 21:03
TGed the proposed KL-60B design specs

i could also design an HW version (HW standing for heavy weapons) with the HC series of laser equipped, i deemed however that lasers ment for a tank turret wouldn't be quite appropriate on a helicopter
07-11-2003, 23:30
Thanks Money will be shipped on when u confirm
08-11-2003, 00:07
Thanks Money will be shipped on when u confirm

confirmed.
08-11-2003, 00:13
Money wired*
08-11-2003, 00:48
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08-11-2003, 01:27
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09-11-2003, 04:23
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Omz222
09-11-2003, 04:37
If applicable, we will purchase 50 KL-65 immediately, to be delivered soon.
09-11-2003, 04:39
If applicable, we will purchase 50 KL-65 immediately, to be delivered soon.

ok, confirmed.
Omz222
09-11-2003, 04:40
Money wired, thank you.
09-11-2003, 05:46
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09-11-2003, 05:46
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Artitsa
09-11-2003, 06:07
650 KL-60's please *money wired*
09-11-2003, 12:28
650 KL-60's please *money wired*

confirmed.
10-11-2003, 14:20
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10-11-2003, 14:35
i'd like to purchase an additional 20 KL-60's

that would be 180 million USD
10-11-2003, 14:40
I would like to buy 150 KL-55's and KL-60's
10-11-2003, 15:15
confirmed, you two get 10% discounts.
10-11-2003, 18:51
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11-11-2003, 12:30
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12-11-2003, 14:34
We would like to purchase a total of:

40 KL-77 helicopters.

100 KL-55N helicopters.

30 KL-60 helicopters.

70 KL-65 helicopters.

Would it be also possible to acquire production rights for the KL-60 "Wasp" if we are satisfied with the performances of the first parties of helicopters?
We are interested in its use for... 'unconventional pacification purposes'.

We will send our naval assets and pilots to pick the orders up.

As always - money will be wired to the given accounts or delivered in gold equivalent by the officers of the naval group once it arrives.
12-11-2003, 14:40
We would like to purchase a total of:

40 KL-77 helicopters.

100 KL-55N helicopters.

30 KL-60 helicopters.

70 KL-65 helicopters.

Would it be also possible to acquire production rights for the KL-60 "Wasp" if we are satisfied with the performances of the first parties of helicopters?
We are interested in its use for... 'unconventional pacification purposes'.

We will send our naval assets and pilots to pick the orders up.

As always - money will be wired to the given accounts or delivered in gold equivalent by the officers of the naval group once it arrives.

confirmed
you get free prod rights for the wasp,
12-11-2003, 14:41
Multi-role Assault helicopter the KL-60 "Wasp"
cost: 15 million

Wanna buy 5 of them
12-11-2003, 14:41
Multi-role Assault helicopter the KL-60 "Wasp"
cost: 15 million

Wanna buy 5 of them


ill send them to you for free, your first post in ns :wink:
12-11-2003, 14:45
I would like to purchase 100 of each.
Money will be wired on delivery.
12-11-2003, 14:49
Another 100 of the KL55N please. These are incredible products.
12-11-2003, 14:50
Another 100 of the KL55N please. These are incredible products.

confirmed with 10% discount.
12-11-2003, 14:54
webbles wants 12 over the next 3 dayes
12-11-2003, 14:54
webbles wants to purchase 12 over the next 3 days


12 of what?
Hotdogs2
12-11-2003, 16:24
ill take 1000 heavy gun-ship,
500 in each mode.
12-11-2003, 16:30
ill take 1000 heavy gun-ship,
500 in each mode.


you mean the kl-55 right? if so confirmed with 10% bulk order discount.
14-11-2003, 16:46
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imported_Buckaro
14-11-2003, 17:03
ill take 250 wasps,
100 kl 75s
and 100 kl 55.
ill send pilots on confermation as well as the money.
15% discount on the wasps as im less than 100m pop.
14-11-2003, 18:31
ill take 250 wasps,
100 kl 75s
and 100 kl 55.
ill send pilots on confermation as well as the money.
15% discount on the wasps as im less than 100m pop.


confirmed.
imported_Buckaro
15-11-2003, 11:34
after carefull consideration buckaroo has decided to purchase an extra 50 KL-65s, 50 KL-77s and 100 naval KL-55s.
and could you tell me how long a ns year/month/day etc is?
1/2 of money wired and other half on confermation.
15-11-2003, 12:01
after carefull consideration buckaroo has decided to purchase an extra 50 KL-65s, 50 KL-77s and 100 naval KL-55s.
and could you tell me how long a ns year/month/day etc is?
1/2 of money wired and other half on confermation.


one real hour= 2 ns month?


confirmed.
Autonomous City-states
15-11-2003, 12:47
The Federation Ground Forces is interested in acquiring a variant of the KL-60 "Wasp" modified with Transdynamics-produced rotor-wings. Would such an arrangement be possible?
Hotdogs2
15-11-2003, 17:04
ill take 500 KL-60s
2000 wasps
2500 KL-77s
and 500 gunships (250 of each)
money wired.
TG me if you need help with anything.
Money wired.
is it possible to make an arrangement in wich i can kanufacture them?
Hotdogs2
15-11-2003, 17:05
sorry,
i meant 500 scouts.
Hotdogs2
15-11-2003, 17:06
not KL-60s
15-11-2003, 19:32
ill take 500 KL-60s
2000 wasps
2500 KL-77s
and 500 scouts
money wired.
TG me if you need help with anything.
Money wired.
is it possible to make an arrangement in wich i can kanufacture them?


confirmed with 10% discount and production rights, just remember

Dealer rights are reserved to Geforce4 only!
Autonomous City-states
16-11-2003, 01:04
The Federation Ground Forces is interested in acquiring a variant of the KL-60 "Wasp" modified with Transdynamics-produced rotor-wings. Would such an arrangement be possible?

OOC: Hello?
16-11-2003, 20:10
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22-11-2003, 21:06
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23-11-2003, 15:01
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23-11-2003, 16:26
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White Ireland
23-11-2003, 19:01
We would like to purchase 20 KL-60 "Wasp"
Total: 300,000,000 USD
Money will be wired upon confirmation.
Thank You
23-11-2003, 19:44
We would like to purchase 20 KL-60 "Wasp"
Total: 300,000,000 USD
Money will be wired upon confirmation.
Thank You

confirmed, 5% discount.
27-11-2003, 17:54
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Gernotsomany
28-11-2003, 11:31
as gernotsomany i wish to buy 1000 Assault helicopter the KL-60 "Wasps costing 15000 million money wired on delivery.
28-11-2003, 12:57
1000 KL-60 "Wasp"- *money wired*
28-11-2003, 15:24
confirmed, you two get 10% discounts.
30-11-2003, 17:01
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30-11-2003, 21:08
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30-11-2003, 21:08
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06-12-2003, 02:25
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06-12-2003, 02:27
How does the first one counter-act the centrifugal force with no tail-rotor and only one main rotor again?

I cant read all that!!!!
06-12-2003, 02:33
How does the first one counter-act the centrifugal force with no tail-rotor and only one main rotor again?

I cant read all that!!!!

ask kamov company
Kamov Company
8a, the 8th March
140007, Moscow Region, Russia
Тel: +7 (095) 700-32-04;
Fax: +7 (095) 700-30-71
E-mail : kb@kamov.ru
06-12-2003, 02:37
Well I called and the phone # didnt work, just made loud beeps, hurt my ears :(
06-12-2003, 02:41
Well I called and the phone # didnt work, just made loud beeps, hurt my ears :(


"The crash happened when the helicopter's tail hit an advertising billboard just after it off-loaded an airconditioning unit on the roof of a building in Strand Street. The helicopter plunged 6m on to the roof of Damelin House. Seconds later, its fuel tanks exploded, engulfing the craft and the building's roof in flames."

© copyright Independent Newspapers 1999

NOTAR - means NO TAil Rotor.



Parts of article titled: "NOTAR Maintenance - No Sweat". September 1999 issue of Aircraft Maintenance Technology. Thanks Gary Siegrist.

Tail rotor serves very important function in a helicopter - not only as a directional (yaw) control but it prevents the machine from spinning out of control in the direction opposite to main rotor rotation. It is the most effective means of generating the required forces for pilots to turn the ship just enough to get out of trouble.



There are, however, a number of disadvantages associated with the tail rotor. We'll discuss three. There have been numerous instances when, following a scenic ride, an excited passenger would exit the helicopter, while the rotor system has not come to rest, and walk right into an invisible tail rotor disk to be instantly killed or mangled for life. Helicopter designers and manufacturers have taken extraordinary steps to prevent such incidents, but it still happens. The other drawback of tail rotor is its fragility. Afghani rebels were quick to learn that a Mi-24D Hind could easily be taken out by simply throwing a rock into its spinning tail rotor. In general aviation we do not take out helicopters intentionally but sometimes a knee pad falls out the open window and gets sucked into tail rotor, an unsuspecting bird or even a tree branch in a tight spot will easily take out a helicopter and its contents. And, finally, the noise. Over 60% of total noise generated by a helicopter is due to interaction of main and tail rotor tip vortices. Not the fear of the helicopter falling on top of them but rather the noise is what keeps the neighbors from allowing more helistops in congested urban and sub-urban locations.






Helicopters equipped with NOTAR system directly address these issues - they are safer, more reliable and quieter. All that at the cost of few extra parts and horsepower. Just like the seat belts and air bags, NOTAR is the evolution of helicopter and it's widespread implementation is just a matter of time. Here's how it works:







Air enters an intake and is driven into the tail boom by a high speed fan. It exists through a pair of fixed slots in the side of the boom producing the "Coanda effect".
06-12-2003, 02:42
all you to say was "re-directs exhaust"
06-12-2003, 02:43
all you to say was "re-directs exhaust"


dude, www.google.com and put in NO TAil Rotor design and search.
06-12-2003, 02:44
why
06-12-2003, 02:45
Forget you! gimme 500 KL-60 "Wasp" helicopters moneywiredonconfirm
06-12-2003, 02:45
http://www.macedonia-info.org/Armija-Makedonija/K-52/ka50&mi24_a.jpg

ka-52 and ka-50 and ka-32 and ka-25 etc.. have no tail rotors
06-12-2003, 02:46
those helicopters use CO AXIAL ROTORS
06-12-2003, 02:46
Forget you! gimme 500 KL-60 "Wasp" helicopters moneywiredonconfirm


confirmed.
Jaxusism
06-12-2003, 02:52
300 KN-55s with our special deal.
06-12-2003, 02:53
i would like 10 KL-60"wasp" helicoptors. please give me a sufficient discount. money will be auto-wired on confirmation.
06-12-2003, 02:54
300 Kl-55ns with our special deal.


ok confirmed, you also get 58 kl-55ns and one helicopter carrier for free.
06-12-2003, 02:54
i would like 10 KL-60"wasp" helicoptors. please give me a sufficient discount. money will be auto-wired on confirmation.


you get them for free, your new and all..
06-12-2003, 02:57
i would like 10 KL-60"wasp" helicoptors. please give me a sufficient discount. money will be auto-wired on confirmation.


you get them for free, your new and all..THANK YOU!!!!! YOU HAVE GIVEN HOPE TO MY NATION! could i add 1 thing to that?(5 of a different thing)
06-12-2003, 02:57
i would like 10 KL-60"wasp" helicoptors. please give me a sufficient discount. money will be auto-wired on confirmation.


you get them for free, your new and all..THANK YOU!!!!! YOU HAVE GIVEN HOPE TO MY NATION! could i add 1 thing to that?(5 of a different thing)


uhm yeah.
06-12-2003, 02:58
if so, i would like 5 kl-77 combat-transport helicoptors.
06-12-2003, 03:14
if so, i would like 5 kl-77 combat-transport helicoptors.


free.
06-12-2003, 13:40
I will buy 10 KL-65s :tantrum:
imported_Buckaro
06-12-2003, 15:23
ill take 1000 of everything apart from the scouts, only 250 of them,
money to be wired on confermation.
imported_Buckaro
06-12-2003, 15:25
How many do i already have?
im not to sure. and im at war so could i have them quick please?
imported_Buckaro
06-12-2003, 15:33
OOC:do you have anything else for sale in another thread?if so could i have the Address?I know you were making a new type of tank...hows it going?
06-12-2003, 15:52
the tank is going alright, just type geforce4 in search and you will see my things.. mostly i sell aircraft.
07-12-2003, 00:08
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07-12-2003, 00:08
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imported_Buckaro
07-12-2003, 22:15
Thanks for that, i needed those helicopters.
Ill check out your other planes later, cheers!
08-12-2003, 17:30
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08-12-2003, 17:39
Whittier
08-12-2003, 18:23
What is the crew size for your KL 60 Wasp?
Communist Rule
08-12-2003, 18:25
I would like to purchase 7 KL-60s at the discounted price.
08-12-2003, 18:27
confirmed, btw the crew for kl-60 is Two (pilots in tandem cockpits)


it is also capable of transporting up to eight troops.
The aircraft can store an additional ammunition basic load in the cargo compartment in lieu of carrying troops.
Whittier
08-12-2003, 18:36
Would you be interested in filling a 45 bill dollar order?
08-12-2003, 18:37
Would you be interested in filling a 45 bill dollar order?


of course, the KL-60 wasp right?
Whittier
08-12-2003, 18:40
Would you be interested in filling a 45 bill dollar order?


of course, the KL-60 wasp right?
yes, we would be interested in the purchase of 3,000.
At the price you posted of 15 mill, that should come out to 45 billion.
Do you think you can fill this order?
08-12-2003, 18:40
youll get 3,000 kl-60 for 45 billion,wire the money and we got a deal, i heard you need awacs also:http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=87610
Whittier
08-12-2003, 18:41
youll get 3,000 kl-60 for 45 billion,wire the money and we got a deal, i heard you need awacs also:http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=87610
The money has been wired.
And yes, we do need AWACS.
08-12-2003, 18:42
i will take :
30 kl72 salamander choppers
and
10 kl60 wasp choppers

*money has been sent*
08-12-2003, 18:45
i will take :
30 kl72 salamander choppers
and
10 kl60 wasp choppers

*money has been sent*

confirmed.
08-12-2003, 18:45
Would like 3 wasp kl-60s 45 mil wired on confirmation please telegram confirmation 8)
08-12-2003, 18:46
Would like 3 wasp kl-60s 45 mil wired on confirmation please telegram confirmation 8)


confirmed.
10-12-2003, 04:09
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10-12-2003, 04:15
We would like to purchase 240 KL-55 Sabres.

Our nation has a population under 100 million, so we would to request the discount. Normally, it would cost 3,360,000,000, but with the 15% discount, that comes out to 2,856,000,000.

Money will be wired upon confirmation.
10-12-2003, 04:16
We would like to purchase 240 KL-55 Sabres.

Our nation has a population under 100 million, so we would to request the discount. Normally, it would cost 3,360,000,000, but with the 15% discount, that comes out to 2,856,000,000.

Money will be wired upon confirmation.
17-12-2003, 18:17
We would like to purchase 240 KL-55 Sabres.

Our nation has a population under 100 million, so we would to request the discount. Normally, it would cost 3,360,000,000, but with the 15% discount, that comes out to 2,856,000,000.

Money will be wired upon confirmation.


confirmed.
Scandavian States
18-12-2003, 17:05
We would like to order 900 KL-55N Sabre helos.
18-12-2003, 17:26
We would like to order 900 KL-55N Sabre helos.


confirmed, you get 5% discount.
Scandavian States
20-12-2003, 22:59
545 KL-70 Salamanders
290 KL-60 Wasps