NationStates Jolt Archive

Deep below the surface of Mars a giant dome had been scooped out over 100 years ago. It was called the Peace Dome, and was built as a place for all celebrants of peace to gather.

Today another gathering was taking place - by people who wished to insure peace by preparing for war. The MIDAS-II diplomatic council would meet here to get to know one another, and discuss the political situation around them.

The places were set out for the representatives and their assistants - 7 places for the 7 nations. Perhaps more would be added - the ampitheatre in the center of the dome had room for thousands if need be.

Attendants went from spot to spot, filling water glasses and laying out refreshments. The representatives would be arriving shortly, and business would begin.

The Pilonese Representative was the first to arrive. He was a rather old looking Dwarf with a full beard going down to his waist and a rather comfortable looking jumpsuit on. He looked rather grim.

Ravenspire's representative was a red-haired foxgirl who wore khaki slacks, a men's shirt in pale blue (with no tie, and the top two buttons left open), and wire-rim glasses. "Impressive," she said to the dwarf. "I always meant to find time to pay a visit to this place..."

The Dwarf looked over at her. "Yes, I have always been personally impressed by many of Sunset's attributes. That is why they are our most valued allies."

Into the room walked the seemingly ever-present Mr. Gansarek, muttering to himself. "Why they always put me on this kind of stuff I'll never know, there are a hundred people better qualified, and I've got other work to do... Oh. Hallo, everybody."

Following closely behind was a somewhat younger looking and just slightly shorter man in blue military uniform with the Royen Seal on each shoulder. "Serikats, hpotak. Ka'c miceki."

The Dwarf raises his stout hands in a Pilonese Greeting to the Eniqcir Delegate. "Hello my name is Archemeides. It is a pleasure to meet you."

The Sunset delegate rose from where she had been sitting - the middle of the statues that sat in the middle of the dome, on the lip of the ampitheatre.

The statues had been expanded over the years - they depicted a male and a female of every sentient species that inhabited Mars, arms linked and faces turned to the sky. Each pair stood across from each other, so they were standing next to two other species.

"Hello. I'm Tathar Laurelin." She brushed back her hair, for a moment revealing the pointed ears of an elf. "I've been asked to be Sunset's representative to the Council."

Archemeides walked over and greeted the Sunsetian Delegate in Pilonese fashion.

A young white man in a black jumpsuit came running in and to a sudden halt. His short brown hair was well kempt, except for the sweat glistening through the mostly straight strands. He hardly looked to be in his early 20's.

With a quick glance at the clock, he stood up straighter, wiped his brow with the back of his left hand, and spoke through his heavy panting, "Whew, I thought I was late! George Stavros, Wazzu delegate. One hell of a first impression, huh?"

Smiling, he made his way over the his fellow diplomats.

"Hello. Greetings to the rest of you. I was just enjoying the sculpture."

Stepping over to the spot that had her name on it, she picked up a datapad and began reading it while comparing faces one by one.

The foxgirl nodded. "It's... heartening. Great detail, too; I think I can make out individual hairs on some of them. Scarlet Shizura, by the way."

"I think we will have enough to worry about, aside from one person being late."

She said this with a small smile, eyeing the list of questions the Senators had forwarded her to ask.

"All in the first session too..."

Breath slowing down now, Stavros cringes at Tathar Laurelin's comment.

"I resent that." he stated with a little bit of humor. "I wasn't late, and I see we are still missing two people." He glances at the clock again. "And they have a minute left. Anyone like to take bets?"

OOC: I'm rather impressed.

Of course, I was all willing to let all you bastards come up to Phobos and talk it over like adults instead of squabble like little children.

That said, it appears that SAVIOUR has collapsed. So, on Mars, I am now neutrally on MIDAS's side.

OOC: If you can ICly find a sponsor, you can still get into MIDAS-II...anyone with assets on/around Mars can.

OOC: No, I'm still officially neutral. It's just Pinnacle Base will be usable by MIDAS2 as a base or supply stop.

"Yes, well, I need to explain something. I really shouldn't be here, since I'm really on the Flag Council... but Mr. Tepemevya here doesn't speak english or Interlingua, and we're rather short on translators. SO, you'll be seein' me around just about everywhere until we find some more permanent arrangement."

"I don't think there was any specific mention of who could be appointed, just that someone had to be."

Tathar sat down, arranging her 'papers' once again.

"We may as well start. Anyone have anything they want to say in opening?"

"I don't think there was any specific mention of who could be appointed, just that someone had to be."

Tathar sat down, arranging her 'papers' once again.

"We may as well start. Anyone have anything they want to say in opening?"

"I do." Archemeides spoke up. "The Nation of Pilon would like everyone here to be very clear about a few things that have been going on recently and we also have some questions. First off we want everyone here to know we are not seeking another war with Vascilia County though we will not waver from our decisions to prevent war with them, our ground forces in Crimmond are in the right and we have no intentions of moving them. Second I want to make it clear that we value our international relations with all of you and hope to improve those relations and show you that we are worthy of both trust and loyalty. Last we request any information on strange happenings that may be going on in other parts of the planet. We have encountered an interesting creature of great age and power that somehow got within our Arcology and has caused quite a deal of damage. We want to know what it is and where it came from."

OOC: May I send a representative to merely observe. I still only have the treaty port Sheffield, but I would like to just be there. That is if no one cares. And also, Sunset, check your TGs when convenient. And I will turn this into a post if I can come.

I don't have any objections to you sending a rep. What does everyone else say?

OOC: You can certainly send a representative as far as I am concerned. That goes for anyone really - but there will be a 'closed door' option that can be invoked at any time.

OOC: No objections.

Any objections to getting this thing moving again?

*sigh*

Director-General Gabrielf enters, he is currently acting governor of Sheffield in the temporary absence of Baron-Administrator Zaybok. He is an older man, wearing a three-piece suit that is cut along Valinon's slightly archaic lines.
He approaches one of the empty seats, "Forgive my tardiness. I was informed of this meeting at a rather late hour."

OOC: Ok, getting it moving.

Please note that this is all happening in a deep dome nearly a km under Mars. The only way to get anything in or out is by the doors, and they are guarded and equipped with sensors that would boil your organs if used at full power. If you don't post, you don't have anyone there, and they do not arrive until they are RPed to have arrived.

IC:

"That is an excellent place to start - foreign policy. It's been brought up in other discussions and events. What is MIDAS' policy concerning the universe around us? Do we like colony's? Hate them? I'd like to determine what our, as a body, reaction will be to general events."

Tathar took a drink and continued.

"The Flag Council has been approached concerning the recent events in the Hellas Basin. This should have been directed to us, but we were not yet ready. If something like this happens in the future, how do we respond?"

"I understand it will always be a case-by-case, but let's throw out some general opinions."

OOC: Oh goody. Late as usually. This going to sting.

IC: The New ArAreBeen Delegate was, as expected, late. The bizzare engine incidents that always seemed to keep the Delegates away, had occured once more. Thankfully, their experimental devices of small scale manifold fields was a small step into on timeness.

Sadly this results in lots of pain for the delegates.

A message was sent to the city authorities:

"Unorthodox entry of delegate expected. Engine trouble. Making up for lost time."
Outside the meeting, the manifolds of space and time contorted at the opening, shapes with a errorneous seeming geometry flowed into one another, a loud voice was heard echoing from the blackness..

"What do you mean you aren't going to stop? The inertia I would retain, would quite frankly, probably cause my atoms to frikkin FUSE. I know this back pack prevents that, but damn it do we really need to take the chAAAA-"

A skiff zipped across the dome at impossible speeds as the manifolds collapsed. What followed could only be described as a man sized white ball bounced around the front of the building until it managed station itself, and then dither into the air.

"Ow. Ow. Ow."

The man hit the ground hard as the back pack like object he was wearing sparked and smoked, he stood up slowly and removed the pack, removing the brief case inside. The back pack quickly flicked out of existance as the skiff flew on a return trip to retrieve it.

The man walked past the guards, passing all scanners, seeming to be grumbling things, they picked up words such as 'job' and 'hate' and 'kers!' as the man stomped into the meeting.

"Hello folks, sorry I'm late, engine trouble. Now, where were we?"

¤The Tritarchic Dominions of New ArAreBee¤

Archemeides nodded to the new arrivals then responded to the Sunsetian Question.
"The nation of Pilon is quite in favor of colonies and lots of them, we believe that through colonization a nation is able to get the most out of the area around them and it also encourages interaction with other nations. We maintain a number of colonies and the number is always increasing. We think that as we are all, in a sense, colonies MIDAS should have no reason to be anti-colony.
Also you didn't answer our second question, has anyone else had strange events going on in their areas, we recently encountered an interesting creature that somehow got within our Arcology and we were most curious to learn if anything similar has or ever had happened to any of you in the past."

"Wazzu has never had any strange creatures appear, though we did get that broadcast about demons...vampires I believe invading Bajon.

"As for colonies? We're not talking colonies in as in the old sailing days. These colonies are not taking up land that is already settled by independent people. Wazzu doesn't have a problem with them...which is probably why Wazzu has three. Elysium, Asgard, and Cytherea. But there is something we think a little more important to discuss now, that of conflict on Mars.

"We are of the opinion that much of the recent conflict around the Hellas Basin could have been avoided if Mangala, a neutral nation, had access to this council. Now, I note that the good Director General from Valinon is present, but I mean something more.

"I wish to propose an amendment to the MIDAS-II treaty that allows for a permenant observer status for certain nations. These nations should have to be sponsored and voted in as any member, but observer status would allow them to keep their neutrality and not be forced out of this council. It would not give them access to other MIDAS assets, just the ability to observe and to have an imediate voice with us in times of emergency.

"Does anyone have an objection, or an idea to change this proposal? Or should I start writing up a first draft?"

"We would have no objection to such a proposal. I would think a simple 50/50 vote for such observers would be all that would be required. In fact we could make it as simple as needing a sponsor. Once that is obtained we would have no need of voting. We can always close the session if classified details are to be discussed."

we also have no objections, though we do think a sponsor should be needed before someone is allowed to send an observer.

tag, so i can find this darn thread later

"If I may interject for one moment, although I will bear in mind that the Empire is not a full member of the MIDAS-II organization," Gabriel says in cautious tones.
"I think it would be wise to pursue an observer status for nations that wish to maintain strong contacts with such an esteemed body, but may not for reasons of their own wish to be full members. It would also permit a greater fostering of relations between the various nations that are fully located on Mars or merely have established colonies. And like my colleague from Sunset said, the observer nations can be excluded from meetings that concern affairs that only full members need to know. This plan seems to bear much merit."
"Also in the matter of neutral parties, the Empire would be willing to extend an officer as a neutral negotiator to Mars. After all we have relatively unbiased relations with the nations that reside on Mars and possess colonies, and His Majesty feels that it would be the least we could do for having the Martian community welcome us so openly."

Tepemevya and Gansarek whispered to each other in Serikats for several moments, before Gansarek spoke up.

"Mr. Tepemevya agrees to the proposal for an amendment, and wants to know why such a clause was not included in the original treaty."

*bump*

"Actually, we are already allowing the esteemed diplomat from Valinon to observe." the young Wazzu diplomat said supprisingly eloquently, "I meant to propose something more. A permanent observer status, difficult to get, that would not see the observer locked out durring said classified discussions. We could of course split the amendment to allow for both a permanent and a non-classified observer status.

"As for how it was not in the origional MIDAS-II doccument, well...it is impossible to think of all eventualities. Thats what the amendment process is for."

"I think we could allow observers with a simple sponsor, but an observer of potentially classified sessions would need to be highly vetted. I would suggest either a 100% vote to accept the nation in question, or a 3/4ths vote with a 50% veto for the particular observer."

"I agree," Scarlet said. "It's a pretty obvious necessity, for our own security. But it's a good idea, and we're all for implementing it."

She smiled slightly. "As far as colonies are concerned, we're mildly in favor. We don't support, and often don't recognize, large land claims on the parts of outside nations, but we don't object to the establishment of reasonably-paced colonies."

"A reasonable stance - the popular phrase within the government of Sunset is 'Claim all you want - let's see what you can hold.' Blunt maybe, but true. Sunset only holds the land on Mars it populates."

Tathar looked around the floor for a moment. She had been briefed on Ares - but she was not sure if the diplomatic councils of the other nations had been.

"True, quite true. It is why we have not laid an official claim to Noachis, or the rest of Sirenum. Although that may be causing difficulties with encroachers... The Kaseian position on colonies is fairly open, given that we are one, even if land area suggests otherwise. However, the all-in-one-go sort of claims perpetrated by the Menelmacari do not go over well. We had plans for that land. No substantial land claims should be recognized until a nation has actually developed the land."

"I believe the time has come for us to begin adding new members to bolster the strength of MIDAS. We have several candidates in mind, are we ready to begin accepting new members?"

We have begun discussing new members and one of the nations who is interested in joining MIDAS is the Ur- Quon- Kohr- Ah colony. We are sponsoring them. What does everyone think?

George Stavros looked up from his amendment drafting and answered...either he was stuck on something, or he was a good multitasker, "I think that I'd like to meet someone from Ur-Quon-Kohr-Ah first. Someone who can tell us a bit about their nation. Then let my nation do a background check before I vote yes. But it should be a very speedy process, very. Until then, I don't have a reason to vote no."

Scarlet nodded. "Agreed. I'm all for letting them present their case, but I think it's too early to actually vote on admission yet."

OOC: That's gonna be tricky...

"Agreed - an envoy from their nation should come to the council so we can question them and get some impression of them as sentients."

OOC: Nah....

They send a character to the meeting to declare intents and such.

The player behind the nation gets to describe his/her nation.

And we just do a forum search for earlier posts and look at the nation itself in NS...instant background check. I mean, I'd imagine all our governments would have files on the diplomatic status of neiboring nations already. There are tens of thousands, not hundreads of millions of nations.

To convince me OOCly, all I need to see is a person willing to RP to the best of his/her ability. That may mean some people join an RP so I can see them play. Credit given for effort rather then brunt ability.

To convince Wazzu ICly, all George Stavros needs to see is a nation that will be reasonable.

OOC: The only thing required to convince Gansarek/Tepemevya would be not finding out that they're the same ones who we met at Lowell.

OOC: The problem is that they likely will not send a member of their species. I cannot say for sure, but I find it unlikely.

IC:
While this was going on, Tathar put a flexi on everyone's desk. She wasn't going to bring it up now but it was there to be digested.

Regarding Relations with the Vascilian League

Currently the government of Sunset is attempting to thaw and perhaps warm relations between our government and Auman. The reasons for this are many, but in the main we want peace.

We feel that diplomatically isolating them and the rest of the Vascilian League from our nations can only lead to more misunderstanding and violence. Our suggested policy is that we cooperate where appropriate and when we do disagree we do it politely and reasonably - firey speeches will not help either side.

It is important that we do not work at cross-purposes in these relationships. Once we have finished with the current business I would like to discuss this and make sure we are not doing such.

Tathar then brought up a projection in the middle of the ampitheatre.

Possible Additions to MIDAS-II

Ur-Quan Kohr-Ah
Kekkosmaa
Valinon
Auir II

"Are there any others that people have been looking at?"

OOC: What about Chasma Dominia, Aelosia, Tor Yvresse, and Menelmacar?

As the Ur-Quan were asked to send an envoy to the MIDAS-II Council, they did so as quickly as they could. They had several Ur-Quan to choose from, but only one was sent. The Ur-Quan only have non-military Dreadnoughts (http://sensori.soldats.net/kuvia/kohrah/urquan2.jpg) stationed on Mars, so the envoy had to use one of them to actually reach the place he was told to go. The ship still has its fusion blaster, but it lacks its fighter wings.

He went there, and arrived at the place as requested. He was mostly like any other Ur-Quan Kohr-Ah: caterpillar-like, ten meters long, two meters high and two meters wide, but there was something peculiar about this one. He was not fully black. No, he has weird green stripes all over his body.

He had hidden the Talking Pet, but as the Ur-Quan always do, he used it to speak. It is quite strenuous for them to speak human (and many other) languages, as their mouths are not well formed for this, which is why they still use those beings. Many species seem to find the Talking Pet offensive, which is why he has hidden it.

He said, with a powerful voice: "I am number 34 of the Colonial Hierarchy. I have been told that you wish to know things about us and our intentions. You may ask anything, and I shall respond."

Archemeides was surprised by the size of this creature, it towered over the Dwarf. "Well 34, why don't you try telling us a little about your race and your colony."

"Very well. Our species is a descendant of solitary hunters. Brown. Now there are two subspecies, the Kohr-Ah, us, the Black, and one other. Civilization and culture were hard for such beings to acquire, but they still did it. Our instincts, a remnant from those days long gone still remain. Do not come near me." And he meant it. The Ur-Quan's instincts are so strong that he would attack anyone who came too close, whether he wanted or not. He stopped talking for a while, his tentacles writhed, and then he continued.

"About our colony... A human might consider it unoccupied even, but to us it is perfect. It was built on an underwater crater and it is protected with a shield. There will only be several hundred of us there. As it is too far from the Hierarchy, a Colonial Hierarchy was formed, and it works with the authority of the Hierarchy. Because of that same fact, it is also supposed to become self sufficient." He stopped again, and when he continued, he said, "I have now told something about us and the colony, as you requested. If you want to know anything else, ask."

Directness seems to work, Stavros thought, "Why do you wish to join the MIDAS-II treaty?"

The Ur-Quan's tentacles writhed, and he began to speak. "We do not lie, so I shall tell you, truthfully, why. The colony is vulnerable, and the Hierarchy is too far from it to help if it falls under attack. That is one reason. It would be easier for us to observe how alien species act if we were in this alliance. That is one other reason. There are other reasons as well, but they are not as pressing as those two. Does that answer your question?"

"Yes, and I have another." Stavros replied, "What can you contribute to this treaty?"

"What we have to offer to this treaty, you ask? Once the colony has been fully equipped with fighters, it can help defending the peace on this planet. Unless we have gravely misunderstood something, protection of Martian assets is the main purpose of this treaty. We can also contribute on different subjects, but those seem unimportant for the cause."

What specifically can you contribute

"What can the Ur-Quan specifically contribute to a treaty of defense? This question seems strange. We would give you our commitment to the cause, but is it not enough? What do you want from us? Technology?"

The Ur-Quan felt irritated by this question, but does not show it - not that anyone would even see it. What do they expect from the Ur-Quan? They specifically *want* something from them? Is MIDAS-II not meant to help in the defense of Mars? Have they understood something wrong?

"Well, commitment is good enough for me, but I believe, and someone correct me if I'm wrong, that the intent of the question was to determine if you have any specific strengths that we do not. Perhaps technology, foriegn intelligence, military size and type, etc."

"Thank you, yes that is what I meant by the question, no offence was meant by the question I assure you."

Director-General Gabriel returns to the room, after taking a few moments to talk with the primary officials of the Empire on Proxima via Valinon communications network.
"Honorable representatives, the Empire of Valinon is honored that we would be considered to join the MIDAS-II organization," he says. "After consulting with His Majesty's Government, I have good news. The Empire now extends its petition for membership into the MIDAS organization. I submit my services to council to answer any questions and establish any information needed during this process."

OOC: Just wanted to get this in, finish with Ur-Quan Kohr-Ah first.

"Why don't you start by answering the same questions we asked the Ur Quan."

Gabriel takes a breath before starting, "The Empire of Valinon is the soul surviving colony of the now defunct Kingdom of Pholus (of Earth not the planet we named in honor of it). The majority of our population is of German ethnic origin, with the British Isles ethnic group being next. Finally we have two strong minorities of Russian Slavic descendants and a large population of Old Japan ethnic origin on our world of Proxima Centauri III and Prometheus Centauri. The Empire is predominantly Catholic with minorities of Anglicans, Eastern Orthodox, and Taoist."
"As for our colony on Mars, it is the treaty port of Sheffield located in Sunset territory near their border with Wazzu. The city has eight domes and has a current population of 87,000 civilians with additional security personnel from the Sardaukar and an embassy facility. However, we are expanding Sheffield to include a Sardaukar training facility were we have arranged with Sunset to train their armed forces personnel."
Gabriel takes a drink of water, "The Empire wishes to join the MIDAS organization because we feel it represents the best way for the international community of Mars to continue to grow and prosper together, as well as act as a diplomatic forum where all nations can be equal. Finally, as to what we can contribute. The Empire will open its training facility to other nations on Mars, and we are willing to keep elements of the Solar System Task Force here to help defend Mars and assist the MIDAS forces in defensive actions. Also, the Empire will be more than willing to establish common lines of communications between the various military commands of MIDAS and the Sol System Protectorate Zone command headed by Lord Marshal Reynard Adonis. Are there any other questions?"

--- Ur-Quan Kohr-Ah ---

"When we established MIDAS we were especially careful to not choose what we felt were unreasonable and aggresive nations. Those who were intersted in maintaining their national sovereignty and that of the other nations were especially sought out. What are your opinions on this matter? If one of our nations were to undergo a civil war would you interfer if it was internal only?"

Tathar studied the alien - it was truely alien to her. Even more than the tri-lats. Extra limbs were not that unusual compared to this sentient.

--- Valinon ---

"The nation of Sunset would be proud to stand next to Valinon in their application for membership. You may find yourself with more than one sponsor when all are done with their questions."

Tathar smiled and continued.

"The same question asked of the Ur-Quan I would ask you. If one of our nations were to undergo a civil war would you interfer if it was internal only?"

The Ur-Quan's tentacles writhed, and he said, "Ah. What we would contribute to this treaty are our upcoming defensive capabilities as said before - and possibly other things later on. We do not have the right to dictate policies to the Hierarchy. Foreign intelligence is not our best trait. Our technology is just that, and will remain so. Is this enough?"

((OOC: Answer to Pilon/Eniqcir thing, will answer to Sunset on one other post. Didn't see it before I had posted this.))

The Ur-Quan replied to the Sunsettian representative, "There are two reasons why we might interfere. One of them is if we are asked to. The other is if it concerns us directly. Most alien affairs do not. Why would we even want to interfere in an internal war? Why would we even have the right to, when we told others not to interfere in the Doctrinal War?"

Tathar considered this for a moment. "It is an honest answer, and one I prefer. I may have more questions in the future, but right now I feel we would approve the application of the Ur-Quon Kohr-Ah colony."

We also would approve the application from Ur Quon Kohr Ah colony.

"The Empire of Valinon would interfere in internal matters if it was requested of it due to a prior agreement such as a defense pact, et cetera. The only other reason we would see it necessary to interfere is if we felt that a minority group was trying to impose its will upon an unwilling majority by force and that the success of this would only serve as a detriment to the said nations future," Gabriel answers after a few moments thought.

"I have one further question for the Kohr-Ah," Scarlet said. "Although I admit it's more a matter of curiosity than investigation. I seem to recall the departure of your race from a site on Mars, not too long ago. Obviously, since you're here, you still have interests on the planet, but I was wondering about the circumstances surrounding that departure."

-=-

"What of a majority imposing its will upon an unwilling minority?" the foxgirl asked of the Valinon representative.

"While we should continue our questions I would like to start an informal vote to determine who is would approve the two current applications and who still needs more information. Then we will hold a secret vote for full determination."

---

Ur-Quon Kohr-Ah: Aye(Sunset)
Valinon: Aye(Sunset)

Just quote this bit and put your vote/nation.

---

OOC: The Kinslayer seems to be MIA. I have sent him a TG, but he has been inactive for 2 weeks. For purposes of voting Kinslayer will 'abstain' until we know otherwise.

"-- but I was wondering about the circumstances surrounding that departure."

"You should ask the Hierarchy. I do not know. I am not highly enough positioned in it."

"I have one further question for the Kohr-Ah," Scarlet said. "Although I admit it's more a matter of curiosity than investigation. I seem to recall the departure of your race from a site on Mars, not too long ago. Obviously, since you're here, you still have interests on the planet, but I was wondering about the circumstances surrounding that departure."

-=-

"What of a majority imposing its will upon an unwilling minority?" the foxgirl asked of the Valinon representative.

Gabriel looks uncertain for a moment, "Are we talking along the lines of political ideology or something else, Madam? I feel that I need that information before I can give a fully adequate answer to that question."

"Yes, I'm sorry," Scarlet says. "You'd mentioned that your nation might interfere in the case of a minority imposing its will upon an unwilling majority. I'm asking what your response would be, if any, to a case of a majority imposing its will upon an unwilling minority."

"If the majority you speak of was the freely elected government of another nation, the Empire would not interfere in terms of military stance. What I meant by military majority was like what happened to the First Empire, when it was overthrown by a volatile Communist minority. However, if the abuse on a minority as you have outlined were to take place, the Empire would make a request that the position of the majority government be rethought. And also, the Empire has been known to take in refugees seeking asylum on several occasions, I am sure we would be willing to do so again," Gabriel says, apparently pleased with the final solution to the question.

"I see. Thank you." Scarlet nods to the other representatives. "I believe I have enough information to vote."

Stavros nods to and slips a peice of paper to Tathar Laurelin (rather then interupt those speaking).


Ur-Quon Kohr-Ah: Aye(Sunset), Aye(Wazzu)
Valinon: Aye(Sunset), Aye(Wazzu)

"Does anyone else have any questions? I am prepared to vote as well."

Tathar had just finished reading the intelligence dossier on both nations again - Valinon's was reasonably thick because of their existing relationships while the Ur-Quon Kohr-Ah's was very thin. Mostly sensor data on their ships from their few in-system visits.

we also yes vote on Valinon.

The Ur-Quan envoy left. There was nothing the Ur-Quan would do for, or on Mars now. They were leaving, so there was no point for them to attempt joining MIDAS anymore.