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New fuel deveoped

02-11-2003, 21:19
a new fuel has been developed for use in all of Lima Been's ballistic missiles, it is called h2n it is liquid hydrogen mixed with natural gas, it burns quick, extreamly, so that we only need to burn 1 ml, a second to keep it going, at top speed. The fuel is burned turns into a pretty big fire ball, and then some more comes in. Its for sale at one dollar a ml.
Pergatorio
02-11-2003, 21:22
Hey, do me a favor. Send a TG to African Commonwealth telling him you're sending him 4 billion mLs of this stuff. I'll pay it for him.

*Wires 4 billion*
02-11-2003, 21:24
is this a trick........ o well ill risk it :D
Kurlej
02-11-2003, 21:24
5 to see if it works. *5 dollars wired*
Pergatorio
02-11-2003, 21:25
Nope. No trick. I commissioned African Commonwealth to construct for me Inter-Planetary Ballistic Missiles and I figure that a starting test with your fuel would be a good area to begin at.
02-11-2003, 21:26
ok. wires 5 ml, to Kurlej
02-11-2003, 22:38
how do you wire fuel? is this another interesting property of your fuel?

I would like to purchase 100 L for testing purposes as well. I will send you 24,982 cats in payment, equivalent to a little over 100,000 USD. Please send the product by land, air, or sea. I will send extra shipping money if necessary.
02-11-2003, 22:40
what do you mean buy wire, order confirmed
imported_Sileetris
02-11-2003, 22:50
Could this stuff be injected into jet engines as a type of afterburner? How much extra power would result?
Vi2o
02-11-2003, 22:53
LB, ur an inventor, arnt u? :)
02-11-2003, 23:06
ok the power added by one milaleter is the equivilent of burning 100 ml of jet fuel
imported_Sileetris
03-11-2003, 00:07
Are the production rights up for sale?

Can we bundle it with one of our own products?

We have one of the few planes that could theorectically go fast enough with this stuff to make it worth using: the Valefor 29a (http://www.freewebs.com/bluebomber/storefrontaircraft.htm) has our very own PFR technology, which lets it travel (out of combat) much faster, and using this fuel in addition could really make for a good time.

We are willing to give you a share of the profits of each unit that incorporates the tech.......
03-11-2003, 00:10
how fast can the jet go, Want to trade purdoction rights?
Kahta
03-11-2003, 00:12
Lima beens, this is by far the best idea you have had since, well, ever. I will invest 1 Billion in this technology.
03-11-2003, 00:13
thank you, want to help us make a plane to use this technology?
Kahta
03-11-2003, 00:24
thank you, want to help us make a plane to use this technology?

I problem you might run into is, too high speeds will literally tear the jet apart if this fuel is 100 times more powerful than a jet.
03-11-2003, 00:29
Attikisch Weltraum takes great interest in this development, and begins their own research project, called 'Hybridtreibstoff' (Hybrid Fuels).
Benderland
03-11-2003, 00:31
a new fuel has been developed for use in all of Lima Been's ballistic missiles, it is called h2n it is liquid hydrogen mixed with natural gas, it burns quick, extreamly, so that we only need to burn 1 ml, a second to keep it going, at top speed. The fuel is burned turns into a pretty big fire ball, and then some more comes in. Its for sale at one dollar a ml.

This whole analysis is very conflicting. You say that it burns very quickly, yet in the next sentence you says it burns 1ml a second. That's a very slow burn for fuel.

Not to mention this pitch looks like it was typed by a three year old. If this is real, I suggest you hire someone to summarize your information more clearly. However, this seems quite impossible, since both gasses burn much quicker than how you described it. This is a hoax.
imported_Sileetris
03-11-2003, 00:51
Its not our plane thats special, its the technology ON the plane:
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Q: What is the PFR System?

A: The PFR (Plasma Friction Reduction) system is a secondary drive component to our most advanced aircraft, the Valefor 29a. The easiest way to explain it is to compare it to the supercavitation technology now coming into use with underwater vessels. Supercavitation forms a bubble on the skin of the submarine, letting it slip thru the water much faster than before because the friction caused by the water rubbing along its hull is lessened. The PFR works in much the same way only instead of using air, it uses plasma. A stream of plasma is pushed out of the front of the aircraft, the plasma pushes the air in the same direction of the aircraft, and the aircraft passes thru the air with less resistance, since they are both moving in the same direction.

Because of technical limitations, while PFR is engaged no weapons can be fired.

PFR in action at night. Not a stealthy system, but very frightening to enemy soldiers......

http://www.sbig.com/sbwgifs/red_comet.jpg
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Basically, the plane feels like its moving slower than it actually is because the friction is reduced.

Obviously we dont intend to use an entire mL at a time, instead we will use tiny amounts over a long time.
03-11-2003, 00:54
no burning 1 ml gives it enough thrust to go at top speed for 1 second.a new fuel has been developed for use in all of Lima Been's ballistic missiles, it is called h2n it is liquid hydrogen mixed with natural gas, it burns quick, extreamly, so that we only need to burn 1 ml, a second to keep it going, at top speed. The fuel is burned turns into a pretty big fire ball, and then some more comes in. Its for sale at one dollar a ml.

This whole analysis is very conflicting. You say that it burns very quickly, yet in the next sentence you says it burns 1ml a second. That's a very slow burn for fuel.

Not to mention this pitch looks like it was typed by a three year old. If this is real, I suggest you hire someone to summarize your information more clearly. However, this seems quite impossible, since both gasses burn much quicker than how you described it. This is a hoax.
03-11-2003, 01:32
anyone else want to help me?
03-11-2003, 01:58
want to help us
03-11-2003, 12:56
any more questions
imported_Sileetris
03-11-2003, 22:10
How much are production/limited sales rights?

As we said earlier, we would like to bundle the fuel with our Valefor 29a fighters (http://www.freewebs.com/bluebomber/storefrontaircraft.htm).
03-11-2003, 22:42
please tell us how much you are willing to pay(I'm not very good with prices)
imported_Sileetris
04-11-2003, 02:51
imported_Sileetris
04-11-2003, 02:53
We can offer $10 billion for the production rights, and $5 billion for the resale rights. Assuming we did bargaining, that would be the highest we would pay.

Or we could offer a technology package including our watercooled, speedloading tank cannons, ceramic diesel engines, and the schematics to produce fog bombs.....
04-11-2003, 13:33
ok, we will sell the purdoction rights for 10 billion, the resale rights are not for sale.. Or if you want we could work on a plane that could use the fuel together........ you would get eqauel rights to the fuel.......... you can pick which deal you want
Boa Vista
05-11-2003, 06:42
MESSAGE FROM THE COMMONWEALTH OF BOA VISTA MINISTRY OF DEFENSE

The Commonwealth Minister of Defense, Jose da Rosa Silva, wants to purchase 2 million mls for our missile program. 2 million dollars will be wired upon approval of sale.

Sincerely
Joao Ferreira
Presidential Minister for Public Relations
The Commonwealth of Boa Vista
05-11-2003, 09:32
Griffindon does not wish, at the moment, to make an exchange. However, in light of Lima Beens making this military discovery, we would like to make sure that you still honor your Allegience with us. For our own safety.

Lyme A. Bene
Griffinian Ambassador to Lima Beens
05-11-2003, 10:17
1 billion for pro rights
05-11-2003, 13:24
all orderc sonfirmed minus Lands of Ages, I dont understand your order
05-11-2003, 13:38
I hate to break it to you, but the compound Lima Beans made, H(CH4), would be useless as a fuel. It would not do a so called 'slow and hot burn'. Rather, it would ignite almost instantly. Think of a bomb.
05-11-2003, 13:41
i know, it gives whatever an insane amount of thrust. It needs a VERY specail engine, but it would work. I admit it would be very hot and explosive, but with a VERY specail engine it shoudl work. The engine wouldn't be that hard if it was made od dimonds? Can you sell us some? We only have about 50 tons, thats good for about 5000 SLBMs the only part dimond is the nozzel.
05-11-2003, 13:44
Umm... the power from the explosion and the shock would shatter the diamond... as would it's moving parts...

If explosives give you insane amounts of thrust, then why am I using Gasoline in my car, and not Liquid Oxygen? I will tell you why: No engine can use it. Your fuel would burn in a different way then other fuels. It will not transfer energy in the same way. And stop using the term 'Natural Gas', and use 'Methane'.
Crookfur
05-11-2003, 13:45
Lima Beens: do you have even a vague understanding understnading of how a liquid fueled rocket works? (or a solid fueled rocket for that matter).

You do not simply need a fuel you also need a decent oxidiser (the choice of which is affect by your fuel choice).
05-11-2003, 13:47
That as well. IF he can get it to burn (his hydrogen / methane compound which makes no sense since methand is CH4), it would most likely explode like a bomb. No engine could hold it.... the most use would be in a rocket if you could possibly get it to work there.
Crookfur
05-11-2003, 13:54
It might work in some sort of specially time detoantion rocket system.

I'm still confused by what it actually is is it simply a mix of hydrogen and methane or is it an actual compound (CH5, which incidentially would likely be impossible). I'm not entirely sure if i cna see any benefit of adding the methane when to make this practical a straight lOX/lH reaction would work better...
05-11-2003, 13:55
whats the difference of a rocket from a SLBM? o well we'd probally use a weak first stage to get the SLBM into the air than the H2N stage taht burns H2N and and liquid hydrogen.