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Volstik must be assaulted immediately. They have attacked our ships before without any warning, and they will not hessitate to do it again. They are planning to hide Grunge-French planes and missiles in their nation, so that they can strike Galdania or any other Comintern members in minutes.

If we strike quickly, we can stop the threat of invasion.
They have struck the first blow, but we shall strike the last.

As you can see the wretched communists known as "Galdania" followed by his tag alongs in the comintern region are going to invade me because I executed a few people who were CONVICTED OF ESPIONAGE. This must not be allowed to pass! Defend freedom, and join Volstik!

Xerlox will be moving in 8 battle fleets to protect Volstik from harm shortly. Details about the numbers and types of the ships involved will be released to the public later.

Any nation wishing to fight Galdania will have to fight The Belmore Family and the whole of the region of Cominteran.

The USSF is mobilizing its entire first fleet and 5 multi-purpose air wings to within striking distance of Volstik. The Capitalists will pay for their Ignorance!

Any nation wishing to fight Galdania will have to fight The Belmore Family and the whole of the region of Comiteran.
You could at least get your region name right, it's "Comintern"

The Prime Minister sat and thought, for hours upon end, then he snapped.

PM:It is now time for us to rid the world of Capitilists, we will dispose Volsik and her disgracefull allies. They will learn what it is like to meet the wrath of us.*On Personal Messageto MoD* to Get 5,000 troops over to Volstik and Xerlox, NOW. I don't care how.

*In the MoD*
Civil Servant: Umm... Sir Alan has said he want 5,000 troops in both Volstik and Xerlox.
Minister of Defence:Oh, get me the head of all the military sections.

*Round a big round table*
Minister of Defence:So who's going to take how many troops?
Head of the Navy:Well we need first to find out the info on each nation.
Minister:Then why aren't you doing that, meet here again in 1 hour with all the info you need.

I myself support Volstik, and think that you are extremely ignorant to declare war on another nation due to its form of government.


Volstik has Chochezkoo's Support

Well, here is a quick rundown of my armed forces

20,000,000 troops active duty
150,000 tanks and IFV's of various types

15,000 fighter aircraft
1,000 bomber aircraft
7,000 fighter-bombers

plus about 16 battle fleets, 9 currently deployed, the rest in harbour.

*edit- add 70,000 nukes to that total.

I myself support Volstik, and think that you are extremely ignorant to declare war on another nation due to its form of government.


Volstik has Chochezkoo's Support
Volstik is the one attacking us because our political idea is communism, we are just defending our ally.

WTF are you smoking? You are attacking ME, you just said so!

The Xerloxian Defense Ministry has approved the donation of 2,000 AS-19 cruise missiles to Volstik.

We offer military services for highest bidder.

Here's my budget info:

Xerlox Gross Domestic Product
Population: 2,198,000,000
Civil Rights: Some
Economy: Frightening
GDP per Capita: $35,000
GDP: $76,930,000,000,000
National Budget: $30,359,039,760,000

Percentage of GDP Spent on Defense: 5.92%
Percentage of Budget Spent on Defense: 15%
Military Budget: $4,553,855,964,000

Population: 2,198,000,000

Did you get the pop bug?

OOC:
TBF info
Nation Map


http://www.abelmore.com/nationshape.GIF
Counties

1.Camden
2.Daset
3.Faci
4.Garbescone
5.Fabian
6.Saficere
7.Abulamus
8.Indicipito
9.Fambito
10.Camwell
11.Doal
12.Sharpardo
13.Fete
14.Shambalenta
15.Mussex
16.Dormainia
17.Renault Island
18.Datelia
19.Gepon
20.Bondswag
21.Gor
22.Horsham
23.Sarah County
24.Crawley
25.Tony County
26.Ian County
27.Delpo
28.Sandris
29.Alan County
30.Susan County



Cities

1.Sarah
2.Alan
3.Susan
4.Ian



Region Map


http://www.abelmore.com/regionshape.GIF

Further reading www.abelmore.com/info.htm

Augusgrad is willing to support Xerlox and Volstik to the bitter end.

Population: 2,198,000,000

Did you get the pop bug?
Yes he did. And hes about to flay you!

In the rare event that Xerlox needs help, we are leasing BAL-E coastal missile systems and Bereg coastal artillery to Xerlox free of charge.

Population: 2,198,000,000

Did you get the pop bug?
Probably, I got this nation from a friend who got it from a friend

Volstik check your TGs

I've been horribly misinformed and confused, So I withdraw From the conflict entirely

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We would warn Galdania and the Belmore Family that it is foolish, very foolish to attack a nation simply because of it's ideology. Not only are you harming your own ideology in this, but also risk the annihilation of your country/region.

We will not interfere for now, though should we see evidence that this is solely motivated by ideology, we will join in and, in Dark Terror’s words, “flay you”.


http://www.gamespy.com/avatars/av/MA/ma324.gif
Michael Ó Ichide,
3rd Tigern,
Milesian Economic Office.

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Remains Neutral

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We would warn Galdania and the Belmore Family that it is foolish, very foolish to attack a nation simply because of it's ideology. Not only are you harming your own ideology in this, but also risk the annihilation of your country/region.

We will not interfere for now, though should we see evidence that this is solely motivated by ideology, we will join in and, in Dark Terror’s words, “flay you”

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OOC:Look at the title of the thread. It is saying how Capatalists should attack Communists. So from that you get the communists are attacking capatilists? Crazy.

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We would warn Galdania and the Belmore Family that it is foolish, very foolish to attack a nation simply because of it's ideology. Not only are you harming your own ideology in this, but also risk the annihilation of your country/region.

We will not interfere for now, though should we see evidence that this is solely motivated by ideology, we will join in and, in Dark Terror’s words, “flay you”

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OOC:Look at the title of the thread. It is saying how Capatalists should attack Communists. So from that you get the communists are attacking capatilists? Crazy.

Well From The Other Posts In The Topic The Communists Are Going To Attack The Capatalists

Volstik must be assaulted immediately.

Volstik must be assaulted immediately.


Theres One ^^

aracas is preparing our entier first fleet for lanch in support of the cause of Communism
we will also send
10,000 infantry men 4000 commandoes 1000 of our elite troopes 30 strike vicles 50 M1A1 tanks 100 AAT armoured troop carrier 100 gazel helicoptes
thisv capitalist attac will not sucseed we will hold the boarder althow our troops will not pusue beond the border we will not help an invasion

I wanna kick some commie ass. I'll send 16 Carrier Groups.

I wanna kick some commie ass. I'll send 16 Carrier Groups.

LOL.
Check tgrams.

The Peoples Republic is extremely concerned by the actions being taken by ComIntern against Volstik, especially since we voiced our concerns that ComIntern may partake in action against capitalist nations. We raised concerns that ComIntern may take action of this sort, but we were assured that ComIntern was a peaceful organisation, with no interest in spreading their misguided way of life to other nations. It seems that we were lied to about this.
Therefore we are prepared to deploy an Aerial Battle Force* to assist Volstik in repelling these corrupt invaders, as soon as we get permission to deploy.
In preparation for the deployment, ordanance and spare parts for the aircraft are being loaded onto cargo ships for transportation to Volstik.


*Aerial Battle Force = 5 x E3
5 x E8 "JStars" (if appropriate)
5 x Nimrods (if appropriate)
10 x KC10
40 x Demeter-class fighters
20 x Pegasus-class fighter\bombers

We are disgusted by Galdania for their extensive warmongering, tyranny, and "world-police like". We would tell Galdania that being a world polie is nothing much but being a tyrant of the world. At least, stopping is wise.

We, as same as Milesia, will remain nertual for now. But we would send the same message, "Screw you".

Foreign Affairs Ministry

We would like to reitterate that there is no war between Volstik and Galdania. We have no intentions of attacking Volstik. We were mearly attempting to warn the Comintern that Volstik has attacked us before, and that another attack is imminent.

We are not rying to push our ideology on Volstik. In fact, we have been attempting to bring the King of Volstik before a U.N. tribunal for Crimes Against Humanity.

land forces wil return to aracas but the first fleet will remain in the area in case the capitalist scum trys anything the land forces will be redy withdrawn but will remain on alert

Our goverment leaders who for now are at the Rotovian Diplomatic summit make an official statement in this issue:

Our nation is known for its social equality and for the fact that we think capitalism is immoral and corrupt. Once more, you can see the capitalist war mongering machine, for example Mec Arms SELLING their troops to the highest bidder is the most foul capitalism i have ever seen. This warmongering doesnt make any sence at all. Its about someone who is getting itchy and want's to start a war, over a subject he doesnt understand himself. Communism in theory is gooed! it was made to help the people, and bring happiness for all. Dont be blinded by men like Stalin, Mao and Fidel Castro. The communist faction is the largest faction in my nation. This doesn't mean i will get in this war. We are just begging you, STOP THIS MADNESS IN ORDER TO SAVE LIVES! This is to large of a subject to fight about. It will turn into a worldwar. Ideologies are not reasons to kill eachother. I admit it, our nation is suporter of communism, and if you examine our history you will see that our nation FOUGHT to get rid of a capitalist dictator-emperor and establish socialism! Then i have also defended communism many times like i did here. But my entire region and all men in the Rotovian Diplomatic summit would probably agree with me about this. THIS IDEOLOGICAL WAR IS NON-SENCE!!!

SIGNED:

Consul Kai Hiwatari of the Bolvakonist Faction*
Consul Xjung Himura of the Communist faction*
*LEADERS OF ATTAWAR
Mr. Tsu Jing, minister of international affairs

<Current Plenzonian World News Broadcast>

*A short jingle with a distinct gloomy sovietesque tone plays as a middle aged woman with a stern apathic look on her face seated at a large anchordesk*

And so as the world gathers it forces for a war of on a frightening scale, the Plenzonian Foreign Minister, Valentina Fedorov has declared that at this current time Plenzonia will remain neutral in a matter that threatens the very foundation of the Comintern.

*shot changes to a pleasant young woman with short dark hair*

"At this time we simply do not wish to engage in war were there was no dialogue previously. War could be avoided easily in this case if diplomatic methods are used to approach the matter. From our intelligence, we believe that a vast majority of the nations that wish to do harm to the Comintern and support Volstik do so for ideological reasons alone. This is a crime unto itself!

With that said, should war commence we would be obligated to join on the side of the Comintern and fight for not only our lives, but our freedom, our beloved nation and to stop anti-socialists from slaughtering innocent men woman and children simply because they don't believe in oppression."

*Shot changes back to the newsanchor*

This has been Irina Tikhonov for PWN Today.

We, the people of the Anarchist Federation of Isla Saudade support this fight against capitalism, which should be exterminated from the world together with all what it stands for.

We will not send troops, unless we feel attacked by the capitalists.

Volstik thanks our allies in Dark Terror, Xerlox, Johnistan, and Shildonia for their support!

BTW, I ignore DT, as do most sensible nations.

The Sebecean people voted today to support the nation of Volstik in the fight against communism. The Federal Council gave orders to send the 12th SSD Division to protect the Volstikian government from assasins. These troops are trained snipers and tactical special forces, they can shoot a hostile sniper before the sniper got to his position.

BTW, I ignore DT, as do most sensible nations.
Then I shall ignore TBF!

The Holy Republic of South Kevon, feels that, since this matter threatens Comintern, it will be neutral UNLESS, the capitalists attack our nation.

BTW, I ignore DT, as do most sensible nations.
Then I shall ignore TBF!
Why? Nobody else ignores me.

We invite

Volstik
Xerlox
Augusgrad
Johnistan
Setian-Sebeceans
Galdania
Aracas

To peace talks to be held in our country in a location that will be given to you once you have arrived. Myself, Volstik, Xerlox and Galdania are expected to send 2 delegates, all others are expected to send only 1.

Volstik must be assaulted immediately.


Theres One ^^
OOC:That was from our Regional Message Board. The next post was by myself saying, No, don't attack yet. We will attack if the region is behind you and you have given enough evidence. Volstik forced this upon us.

We pledge our support to Volstik. Our entire active military has already put on standby for the time being. Volstik, if forces are needed, please telegram our nation.

peace talks should not be held in your nation, please have a neutral nation host the talks.

Someone like Omz222 should host them.

The Confederation Of United Celts wishs to have no part in this conflict but urging both sides to give up the conflict or face our wrath we dont want to attack either side but if they god mod or do something against human rights we will atack

your wrath? lol :lol: :lol: :lol:

Someone like Omz222 should host them.

I agree with you.

Someone like Omz222 should host them.

That's a little biased. A nation whose offical stance towards Galdania is "screw you" hardly sounds like neutral territory.

SInce Xerloxian doctorine basically calls for massive nuclear strikes on those who put up much of a fight from what Ive seen, youd best accept it without complaining!

Uh huh...gee no wonder why people ignore you.

My responce to that is now I will DEFINATELY not support it being held by Omz222, before I really didn't care.

Don't get me started on the cowardice of nuclear weapons...I take a very Patton approach to them

Uh huh...gee no wonder why people ignore you.

My responce to that is now I will DEFINATELY not support it being held by Omz222, before I really didn't care.

Don't get me started on the cowardice of nuclear weapons...I take a very Patton approach to themActually, its not me who nukes people. Its Xerlox. I definitely support him in this case though!

And appearently Volstik is ignoring one of galdanias allies for each of his allies galdania ignores.

Layarteb is always happy to help. Our military is rather small right now due to our just starting but it is highly advanced.

We'll offer the 1st Cavalry Division - 3rd Regiment.
It has 4 M1A2s, 6 Humvee's armed with .50 cal and Mk.29 GLs, 3 M2A3 Bradley IFVs, 6 5-ton trucks, and 10 M113A3 ACPs.

We'll offer the 5th Infantry Division - 5th Regiment
It is equipped with 1,000 soldiers armed with various weaponry and specializing in anti-armor and anti-air use with MANPADs, AT-4s, and other assorted weaponry.

Lastly we'll offer the 2nd Special Forces Division
These are comparable to the US Navy SEALs and are 18 men strong in 3 squads. These are very highly trained.

If there is more you need let us know via telegram.
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All Layarteb military forces on REDCON 3.

And appearently Volstik is ignoring one of galdanias allies for each of his allies galdania ignores.
But that's just pointless. He has no reason to. Tell him to grow up please.

tell galdania to grow up and unignore my allies then

tell galdania to grow up and unignore my allies then

Even I've ignored Dark Terror, and I'm on your side. Trust me, if you want this RP to be productive and enjoyable, don't let Dark Terror in. If you do it'll just turn into rampant godmodery, and I'll withdraw my support.

I'd keep on promoting peace talks for this but since everyone seems so gung-ho on war over this silly matter, then fine. I'd prefer not to get involved in an ignore war or a "I nook u, u ded" level of RP. Even if you want war just take a step back and look at how utterly ridiculous this will end up. If we go onto war from this point, we have people ignoring nations on the other side AND their own side which will eventually end up randomly ignoring people.

I think this is rather simple, if people don't want to RP with DT for whatever reason, then you can't RP with Xerlox or his puppet Volstik because DT will undoubtably get involved. I think the whole matter should just be dropped before this degrades any further.

The Attawan goverment makes a statement:

We are prepared to start peace-talks in Tche-Yang'an, the capitol of Attawar. The Communist party, is not the only party in our nation, and we apreciate fairness and equality, so we will take a strict NEUTRAL position in this peace conference. If you all agree with our idea, we will give you all more details. If you do not agree, we will be forced to leave you to fight this war, and kill millions in it. We would regret it, but we got no respons to our last statement, and nobody of you seems to listen to our form of reason.

tell galdania to grow up and unignore my allies then
Now now, RPing with people other than his puppets is a very new and challenging concept for certain people to grasp.

Shildonia- thats because youve been ignoring me ever since youre little blockade was blown to bits, numbnut. I have yet to recieve any examples of my godmoding from you anyway (*yawn*).

The Attawan goverment makes a statement:

We are prepared to start peace-talks in Tche-Yang'an, the capitol of Attawar. The Communist party, is not the only party in our nation, and we apreciate fairness and equality, so we will take a strict NEUTRAL position in this peace conference. If you all agree with our idea, we will give you all more details. If you do not agree, we will be forced to leave you to fight this war, and kill millions in it. We would regret it, but we got no respons to our last statement, and nobody of you seems to listen to our form of reason.
Dominic Johnson and Catherine Ellcock are boarding their plane as I speak.

This left and right wing dispute has recently been of much talk in this nation. Hirgizstan is NOT a democratic or capitalist country but we wish to open trade with such countries, so to the besieged capitalist countries: Hirgizstan pledges support. A fleet Marine unit of the Hirgizstanian Navy is on its way. An element of the HMC has been sent to the area of the Belmore family to assasinate its leaders. My country has protection against nuclear weapons and we will use them if threatened, do not underestimate Hirgizstan, capitalism must live.

Hirgizstan, if any harm comes to the peace delegates of the Belmore Family, or any of their fiefdom's leadship, I will hold you personally accountable, and no amount of nuclear attacks would stop my army from trampling your capital. In short, pay more attention to your own matters and less to ours, we have enough problems without small upstarts causing assassinations.

*sits back and waits for the legion of anti-commies to start threatening him back*

Premier Vladimir Kaust
Peace-promoting leader of Plenzonia

Galdania does not understand why there is all this talk of war. Many Galdanians would like to see Volstik in flames, but such a thing will not likely happen in the near future. Certainly, if such an event occurs, it will not be of Galdania's doing.

The Attawan goverment makes another statement:

First of all, we would like to especially thank the Belmore Family for listening to our message of peace. Secondly, since the belmore family is coming to Tche-Yang'an, the capitol of my nation, wich is in a NEUTRAL territory in this war, you can not try to assassinate you! The Belmore Family delegates will be under heavy protection of Attawars armed forces, and the Black Lotus, the feared Special-police force (B.L. is a bit like the russian KGB and american CIA and FBI). If you still try to assassinate the leaders of the Belmore family, we will see it as an act of hostility toards Attawar. I must also warn you i allways have the capacity to moblize my entire army in 2 to 3 days. I would also like other nations to respond to my peace conference...

Hirgizstan would like to reply and apologise on behalf of Plenzonia for its slanderous communist outburst against nations that seek an end to Belmore-led communist intentions in Volstik.
Hirgizstan will go to war if the communist nations do not pull out of the region. The 'peaceful' delegation of the Belmore family will not be harmed if the communist 'rebels' come to an agreement that pends to no less than they're standing down.

-Hirgizstan Press release-

Capitalists v Communists?
hmm interesting

COMMUNISTS
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Galdania
The Belmore Family
Fulovit
Aracas
Plenzonia


CAPITALISTS
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Volsitk
Xerlox
Augusgrad
Johnistan
Shildonia
Isla Saudade
Secian-Sebeceans
Atomic
Layarteb
Hirgizstan

These are the nations we are inviting for peace talks in Attawar. You will all recieve telegrams about this.

Consul Kai Hiwatari
Consul Xjung Himura
Leaders of the Peoples Republic of Attawar

interesting... so whos fighting who? or are you guys juss talking

interesting... so whos fighting who? or are you guys juss talking

From what I surmise we are on the verge of war.

I am always ready for diplomacy but there comes a line with that and once it is crossed diplomacy goes out the window and the fighting starts. To quote Hoot from Black Hawk Down: "Once that first bullet goes past your head, politics and that sh** just go right out the window!"

If it is the general consensus of our side we shall appear for peace talks.

TBF will attack no-one unless fired upon.

Our Foreign Minister Valentina Fedorov has just boarded a Mi-8T transport Chopper with 4 Mi-28A/N Attack chopper escorts headed for Attawar to attend the peace talks. The attack choppers will not enter any claimed airspace and will turn back as they approach their destination so not to offend our gracious host. When she lands she will being guarded by 6 Plenzonian Special Forces agents who will be armed to comply with our host's request.

Premier Vladimir Kaust
Plenzonian Head of State

I won't be able to post much in the next few days, so I'll try to post when i can.

Hirgizstan has decided to appear at the peace talks but i would like to express my concerns over the security plans, i do not agree with the idea of having armed personnell of any one nation inside the meeting room, or even the building for that matter. I suggest sending a number of security officers from each nation to police the building but i ask for armed guards to be removed from the meeting room or i will be forced to put a carrier battle group on full alert should anything happen in that meeting room, this is not an act or war i am simply expressing what i must do if there are to be any 'complications' which i trust there will not be.
Hirgizstan will accept the invitation and will arrive by Prime Ministerial Plane which will be accompanied by two F-15 Fighter jets that will stand-down at the borders.

Hirgizstan has decided to appear at the peace talks but i would like to express my concerns over the security plans, i do not agree with the idea of having armed personnell of any one nation inside the meeting room, or even the building for that matter. I suggest sending a number of security officers from each nation to police the building but i ask for armed guards to be removed from the meeting room or i will be forced to put a carrier battle group on full alert should anything happen in that meeting room, this is not an act or war i am simply expressing what i must do if there are to be any 'complications' which i trust there will not be.
Hirgizstan will accept the invitation and will arrive by Prime Ministerial Plane which will be accompanied by two F-15 Fighter jets that will stand-down at the borders.

I will give my total support to the Capitalist. It is time to put and end to the plague that is the communist countries..All my reaserch team is working right now on a new form of nuclear weapons that will be Ready for action with in a week. All the elite Forces are exiteded to be part in this conflit and tho we are a new nation we will give everthing we have to the good cause of capitalism

I want to point out to the Attawar representative here that we are NOT capitalists, as he pointed out. We are ANARCHISTS and we are supporting the communists here, because of their fight against the capitalist agression.

We have smashed capitalism here years ago when we became free, now its time to help stopping it. So if we fall in a division there, we are very close to communism.

We will send a delegate once the people votes for who they think that should go there. Considering that the fight is concentrated on "communism vs. capitalism" we are going to defend the communist comrades from the capitalist thieves.

I want to point out to the Attawar representative here that we are NOT capitalists, as he pointed out. We are ANARCHISTS and we are supporting the communists here, because of their fight against the capitalist agression.

We have smashed capitalism here years ago when we became free, now its time to help stopping it. So if we fall in a division there, we are very close to communism.

We will send a delegate once the people votes for who they think that should go there. Considering that the fight is concentrated on "communism vs. capitalism" we are going to defend the communist comrades from the capitalist thieves.

The People's Republic will send a diplomat to the negotiations in order to safeguard ourselves and our fellow capitalist nations from the tyranny of Communist agression.
Mr Gary Fawcett will travel to the conference aboard an Excalibur-class supersonic airliner, accompanied by his bodyguards and personal aides.

We will keenly watch this war, and intervene when we see fit.

if you guys want to have talks, i'll host them. I'm neutral, and my government is democratic-socialists who like free economy.

My Govenment hate left wingers so this is good news

The Sebecean military is currently mobalizing. Ships are being prepared for subspace launch. We will only stand down when the communist do. We are a fascist nation, so we can talk a huge war.

We would like ALL NATIONS TO STOP FIGHTING. We are going to host a peace conference. Hirgizstan, we will NOT change our rules. Our Black Lotus are completely trustable. Please follow the rules that were given to you by telegram. If you send a little rubberboat with a man with a pistol in it, near my harbors it will be seen as an act of agression. We will not tolerate any international forces on Attawan grounds. This has been our point of view since the revolution, and it will remain our point of view!!! I urge ALL nations to come to the peace conference. I would like to have all replies by sunday. On monday, the conference will begin.

The Premier of Plenzonia would kindly request that all the piddling little anti-communist nations who are now rattling their sabers: stand down. You could easilly be rolled over by the Comintern which would take the lives of many innocent people, most of them your own.

WE don't want this, we seek peace, and if you keep threatening those who could crush you, they eventually will get fet up babysitting and oblige.

Plenzonia would also like to extend their thanks to any anarchist aid such as that of Isla Saudade. Destruction of the state is the ultimate goal of many Socialist nations, and as such I suggest all Comintern nations treat Anarchies as brother and sister nations.

Premier Vladimir Kaust
The Slightly Annoyied Peace Promoting Leader of Plenzonia

Hirgizstan has no intention of sending a rubber boat into your harbours, rather a Nuclear Super Carrier, that is if anything goes wrong and i strongly urge all the capitalist-minded nations in attendance to please have your military in some state of readiness for any 'complications' and make no mistake the communist delegates will not make it out of the shadow of the building if anything goes wrong, and let me tell you that to start a war with Communism vs. Communism is all well and good but as you probably know any capitalist economy is potentially stronger and there are a majority of Capitalist nations in attendance but besides this i will be at the Peace Conference but i am extremely unhappy with the arrangements stated.

Hirgizstan, you would do well to notice that planned economies can gear up for war far more quickly and efficiently than market economies.

That being said, we wish to pledge our full support to our communist comrades in their struggle against capitalist aggression. If necessary, we will also call upon our allies from the Coalition of Anti-Capitalist Economies.

But for now, we favour a dilpomatic solution. Let's end the idle chatter and get to the point. State your claims, capitalists!

By the way, Hirgizstan, notice that you are so small that we could flatten you in the blink of an eye. Start a war against any communist nation, and you will be instantly crushed. Consider this a warning.

I will not consider anything a warning from your nation, talk and bluster is all communists are about, the capitalist nations will rally, and do not think for one moment that i do not have many allies. Yes you may think my nation will not put up any sort of fight but believe me my military is highly technological and will stand its ground or die trying to. Do not make idle threats, go seek your 'quite peace' i am only attending this conference because i pledged my support to a capitalist nation-under threat and i will continue my support and it means going to this peace conference.
Communism DOES NOT WORK, take a lesson from history.

I must say with utmost regret that I have been absent from the international scene with pressing internal affairs and I have returned to face this thread of most worrying content....

Firstly I feel it is my duty to inform you that ComIntern is not 'attacking' Volstik and his puppets etc. We merely expressed our concern at a number of innocent people murdered by his corrupt government simply for their political beleifs, So all you other nations that have jumped on the 'Commie Capppie War' bandwagon, I'm afraid it terminates here.
This is not about communism or capitalism. This is not about idealogy, unless you count the preservation of innocent human life as an idealistic hope and if it is then I would hope that all here were idealists in that sense.

Of course, Galdania, Plenzonia and our other allies have our full support-and by the way I am not a little tag-along, Kamerovia may be new, but I am not (People's Republic of Frontsville).

Comrade Machenzilek, Leader of the USSK, Commisar of the Revolution

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I will take this oppurtunity to ask all communist nations to please cease their use of propagandist rhetoric, simply in the interests of keeping this peace-conference as neutral as possible and i would also like to point out to the nations who think some nations jumped in to help the capitalists because it was the reds who were the agressors. I jumped in because i wished to see and end to violence that was uncalled for, if it had been a capitalist nation making an offensive move against another capitalist nation i and other nations that were/are capitalist would have considered their pledgeing support. So can the communist nations who are not taking part in the elections please stop pledging support here and there and could we please see an end to the propaganda as this is supposed to be a neutral delegation.
Thank-you for your co-operation.

I will not consider anything a warning from your nation, talk and bluster is all communists are about, the capitalist nations will rally, and do not think for one moment that i do not have many allies. Yes you may think my nation will not put up any sort of fight but believe me my military is highly technological and will stand its ground or die trying to. Do not make idle threats, go seek your 'quite peace' i am only attending this conference because i pledged my support to a capitalist nation-under threat and i will continue my support and it means going to this peace conference.
Communism DOES NOT WORK, take a lesson from history.
Oh my, what a loud mouth you capitalists have...

Communism doesn't work? Funny - that's exactly what they used to say about Democracy in 1815.
Also, the fact is that most attempts to institute capitalism failed miserably at first. So did that mean that they should have just given up, because capitalism "didn't work"? :roll:

Humanity has been moving towards a more fair and just society for millenia, and we have no intention of stopping now.

But let's get back to the matter at hand: What are your demands?

Sending command carrier Osiris, to the planet of the peace talks, it will remain there, but we will only send down the Ambassador and his guards.

We want to thank the comrade Plenzonians for their support for Anarchism and we announce we support them in spite of our differences.

We have picked DEMOCRATICALLY a delegate for this conference. His name is Ronaldo Pereira and he has already been informed of the general position we have on this conflict. He is a lawyer and he has a lot of support from our people.

We are waiting for the date when this conference starts so we can decide who will go with him, as it is allowed by Attawar.

OOC: You want to talk about history?

A) The Soviet Union practically single handedly beat Nazi Germany
B) The Soviet Union and China have had the most powerful land armies for the majority of their history
C) All Communist Nations have managed to grow extremely powerful economies in total economic isolation
D) The Soviet Union fell because Gorbachav made to many reforms in to little time, it was a matter of to many freedoms to a people who NEVER had freedom in their entire existance and not of communism or capitalism.

Don't try to debate history with your elementry school text-books with me, I'll make you look like the fool you are.

Lastly if I remember you were about 10 million big, you can't build nukes, you can't buy nukes and in general you are restricted to pop guns and clockwork and bamboo tanks.

OOC: You want to talk about history?

A) The Soviet Union practically single handedly beat Nazi Germany
B) The Soviet Union and China have had the most powerful land armies for the majority of their history
C) All Communist Nations have managed to grow extremely powerful economies in total economic isolation


A) As long as you ignore the whole "bombing German cities thus restricting their ability to make war" and the Battle of Britain, and D-Day, and North Africa.
B) Huge numbers is great, but being able to kill in huge numbers is even better. <Insert reference to how great Western equipment is compared to Soviet equipment>
C) Cuba? North Korea?

And while he may be smaller than you, I am three times your size, and with a better economy, and I can build nukes (though I'd prefer not to use them). So don't go throwing your weight around, k?

A) How about Stalingrad, how about North Africa really didn't mean a thing, how about D-day made NO IMPACT ON THE WAR especially since the Red Army was smashing it's way to Berlin. Oh yeah and if you disagree, about 90% of all German casualties were inflicted by the USSR
B) And also Soviet arms were better then American.
C) Cuba isn't as bad as everyone makes it out to be and as far as I know North Korea isn't exactly horrible economicly.

And I'm not throwing my weight around I'm getting sick of this snivelling fool throwing his tiny weight around about 4 times in this thread and I'm getting fet up with it.

OOC: Wow I have no frickin clue what is going on here, will someone clue me into the loop. Otherwise!

IC: The 747 landed at the IAP and an awaiting Black Hawk recieved the cargo, the Layarteb foreign minister and his party, eleven men in total. The other ten men were armed guards from the Secret Service. They carried many weapons, ranging from the Desert Eagle Mark XIX to the Smith & Wesson 686P to the M1911A1 to the simple combat knife. They were outfitted with full kevlar armor under their suits and did not intend on needed it but carried it anyway.

As the Black Hawk landed at the center of the peace talks, the foreign minister turned to his head guard: "Are they in place?"

"Yes sir. We've got a six man team of Black Ops deployed in the vacinity. They've got full armor and weaponry but will only act if the order is given."

"Good, the second one of these communists tries anything funny I want them to storm this place and get us the hell out of here as well as our allies. I hope we won't need them."

"Me too sir but they're the most elite. If we need them they are here."

"Good, shall we go sing koom-by-ya?" The guards laughed as they entered the building.

---the 9oclok news---
good everning this is lantra flatis
the headlines today The aracan negociator, admarall gwilliam, arived in Attawar today, the cuttle fish husk has never been so powerful on the world market. and the aracan national zoo welcomes a new arrivle today.

more on those later

now back to our main story

in the peace talks admral gwilliam today lanched from his flagshp, ASS iron duke, in a merlin helecopter. followed by a scond belived to be carrying 10 of the SBS elite navy commandoes alowed as bodygaurds at the confrence. they were escorted by four of the new mig 33 fighters flying off the ASS Emew the CVF carrier.

a goverment scource has leaked the information that the capitalists layarteb have moved foces into the region and it is said yhat the goverment has stated their concern about this to Attawar. Also the first fleet will remain on constant alert redy to deploy commandoes to intercept any hostile acts and pull both admaral Gwilliam and the diplomats of our commrades to safty.

A) How about Stalingrad, how about North Africa really didn't mean a thing, how about D-day made NO IMPACT ON THE WAR especially since the Red Army was smashing it's way to Berlin. Oh yeah and if you disagree, about 90% of all German casualties were inflicted by the USSR
B) And also Soviet arms were better then American.
C) Cuba isn't as bad as everyone makes it out to be and as far as I know North Korea isn't exactly horrible economicly.

And I'm not throwing my weight around I'm getting sick of this snivelling fool throwing his tiny weight around about 4 times in this thread and I'm getting fet up with it.

North Africa meant ALOT. It enabled Allied troops to mount an assault on German-occupied Europe. It meant that the Allies controlled the oil. The USSR didn't beat Germany; Germany beat themselves by stretching their forces too thinly. Tigers and Panzers would have decimated the entire USSR if they won in North Africa and got oil.

North Korea not bad economically? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

You truly are the world's most delusional lefty!

Isochronous decides to destroy communism once and for all. Massive forces are deployed, alot battle-hardened from the recent invasion of Communist Likon, where they routed the enemy.

a goverment scource has leaked the information that the capitalists layarteb have moved foces into the region.

Pretty funny how it leaked since only three people knows about it thus why they are called Black Ops.

The later soviet tanks (forgot the exact model, I think it's the T-76) were a match if not stronger then the German Panzer's, and Churchill's "soft underbelly of Europe" idea, then that in itself is delusional. The assaults made from Tunis to Italy were completely pointless and the oil there wasn't all THAT important since North Africa was SUPPOSED to be controlled by Italy, not Germany. Italy couldn't do anything right and Germany needed to save them. And as far as I know N. Korea has like the 8th largest economy in the world.

Now i see i will need to educate a few people in this forum on the subject of 20th century history. Dear me.
I will not say what qualifications i have in the subject of history, just know that i have them.
First of all the North Korean economy is actually on the verge of a collapse, for a number of reasons. Their economy has been in, to put it lighly, a serios depression since 1985. The NK's crops have failed for the seventh time this year and eye-witness accounts by Western Journalists, backed up by pictures, have shown and proved that the people in outlying towns and cities (outlying from Pyonyang) have been redueced to eating types of vegetation, tree bark seems to be the main one, and orphanages boil grass roots for their children as they have no food. Who's fault is this? This is the fault of communism, the fault of Kim Il Sung and the fault of Kim Il Jong, as their isolationist policy has turned their country to ruins.

Now on to the facts about world war 2. To find these facts we need to delve into Soviet Mliltary Archives which are avaliable on micro-film for a price, and their findings were published in a recent book entitled 'Berlin' and one of the most shocking facts about the Soviets advance was that there have been over 500,000 accounts of rape on German women and young girls, not only in Germany, but in its outlying territories. Shocking as this is i fear it is not yet the worst atrocities to be uncovered. Possibly the uncovering of 8million bodies in various NKVD and KGB detention centres in the east of Russia and the fact that under some pathways in minor russian cities it is claimed are buried the remains of those who stalin 'purged'.
More facts. The Soviet race to Berlin was not in the least about winning the war. If the Soviets could have slowed down they would have but 'Comrade' Stalin pushed them to the breaking point for one simple thing: Uranium, German Atomic Researchers, their equipment and their labs. This was the ONLY reason.
Now onto the 'politics' of communism. They simply do not work. Some commies beleive that the world shoud have no borders, that everyone should be united in peace and harmony, but the simple fact is we are not the same as our neighbour, no one is the same as someone else, it is HUMAN NATURE. Do u think Josef Vassarionavich Dzjugashvili (Stalin) or Vladimir Ilyeich Ulanov (Lenin) lived in a one bedroom flat and worked 10 or 12 hours a day down a mine or in a factory, damm sure they didn't.

It is also a historically renowned fact that had the Germans bypassed stalingrad on one particular front and had stabbed into the Caucasus oilfields as they had planned to do, Stalingrad WOULD HAVE FALLEN AND THE USSR WOULD HAVE BEEN NO MORE. The russkies threw man after man after man at the Germans, they sacraficed hundreds of thousands for a city of ruins and a corrupt and criminally insane (Stalin was psychotically paranoid and had fits of rage, some even suggested he was a scyzophrenic) dictator.
It is also a widely known fact that had the Allies not won in Africa then the Germans would have had the oil in Saudi Arabia and had the resources to open up a second russian front. Had the Allies not landed on d-day as Stalin had begged Churchill to do (which is actually true) then the russkies would have lost.
Equipment wise, all other armies were better equiped than the russkies, take an example. The Russians invaded Finland in 1941 and the Fins actually beat them back, the fins were heavily outnumbered and very poorly equipped yet they shot down hundreds of Russian planes and killed thousands of Soviet troops.
Russian equipment, speaking in modern terms, was NEVER better than Western Equipment, but don't take my word for it, ask a weapons expert or refer to Russian Military doctrine from 1950-1989 which staes explicitly that Russian equipment is to be easy to manufacture and to be of minumum cost. Most russian equipment is durable but it is not technological and most of the equipment had faults, such as the hastily added Conning tower on the T-80 U and the BV models which the crews despised with a vengeance.


I hope i have enlightened you to the world of Academic history and i hope you make no such foolhardy judgements pertaining to the existence of qualifications on my behalf.
Now can the communist countries please stop complaining and either collapse or get on with peace negotiations.

Well, first of all, I don't care what your qualifications are, anyone can lie online, and second of all I don't KNOW about North Korea because I was never overly interested in the nation and everything I learned or read is stored somewhere and I don't feel like digging stuff to post on a silly little forum of mostly 14 year olds. Secondly, which I will argue, is that human nature is absolutely unrpoven and to say it is "against" human nature is not only ridiculous but so far out of date you might as well be in the 1950's. Many anarchistic and therefore socialist/communist tribes exist all over the world and have existed all over the world since man had existed and these would go against your idea of human nature. The BEST we as humans can get to what human nature is, is that our nature is created by society.

I'm not going to continue this arguement because, as I implied, I usually don't argue offline things online, I don't respect anyones credentials I come across and there is NEVER an exchange of information, only screaming matches. Anyone could come on saying they are a college proffessor with a doctorate in blah blah blah and wrote millions of books. Honestly I don't care, you are wrong on the issue of human nature and I disagree with the WW2 issue just because you didn't make any good points to argue because I have facts contrary to what you say. I admit I might have been mistaken on N. Korea, and I stand by the majority of what I said about the USSR and it's obvious you are a product of an anti-communist learning enviornment that screams right wing radical proffessor or american public text book, both of which aren't worthy of my time to argue with.

LASTLY OOC I'm not a communist, I'm a democratic socialist. I'm what you find in most of Scandenavia. I might be a SOCIALIST yes but I detest the soviet union and everything they represent. I'm argueing on the basis of the facts which you have sorely wrong.

And get off your high horse it just shows your not worth having a meaninful debate or discussion with.

I DO suggest dropping this before this sinks into a flame war, post anything else OOC and I'll ignore it, I honestly don't have time to devote to lengthy debates with people I don't know and I'd rather RP.

In reference to the issues raised by Hirgizstan, Shildonia and Isochronous, I feel I must disagree somewhat. Firstly, Shildonia wrote:

B) Huge numbers is great, but being able to kill in huge numbers is even better. <Insert reference to how great Western equipment is compared to Soviet equipment>
C) Cuba? North Korea?

Now it strikes me as odd that if western equipment is so good, then why is the AK-47 still the most widely used firearm in the world? Furthermore the Russians after all, beat the Americans to put the first man into space due to ingenuity rather than more money than brains-while the americans spent years developing a biro that could write upside-down, the russians used pencils.

Secondly, Cuba and North Korea aren't really communist at all, indeed Cuba is only communist by name and North Korea is more of a dictatorship than anything else.

Also in reply to Hirgizstan's attempts to lecture us, I must point out that Stalingrad WAS a major turning point in the war as it marked the true beggining of German defeat on the eastern front and indeed, many historians agree that if Hitler had not spread his forces too far in attempting to attack on two fronts (the russian east and allied west) he may well have won the war.

Oh and if you doubt the effectiveness of soviet tanks, I beg you to take a closer look at the Battle of Kursk in 1943 which, as an online encyclopaedia puts it : "was a decisive battle of World War II. It remains the largest armored battle of all time, and included the most costly single day of aerial warfare in history. Although originally planned as a German offensive, the Soviet defense was so successful that they were able to turn it into a rout. " it goes on to add "Both sides had taken severe losses, but only the Soviets had the manpower and the industrial production to recover fully. The Germans never regained the initiative after Kursk."

....So stick that in your history pipes and smoke it.

Now onto the 'politics' of communism. They simply do not work. Some commies beleive that the world shoud have no borders, that everyone should be united in peace and harmony, but the simple fact is we are not the same as our neighbour, no one is the same as someone else, it is HUMAN NATURE.

I would like to know what is "human nature", because it seems to me that in nature states dont exist, individuals of the same species cooperate to survive, in fact things like the state, the religion, the property, the borders (and the nations) and the greed were created by the human, usually to exploit each other, creating divisions that could lead us to extinction.
Human nature doesnt exist, we are animals, of course we are more developed but do animals need a state? do they need to have a huge house and exploit others to survive and addapt to the environment?
Do animals have states and countries? The herds have leaders but those do not exploit the others. They help each other unless there arent enough resources. We humans can produce what we need from resources because we are more advanced, so why should we compete for them?
You stupid and common right-wing argument doesnt work, and if communism doesnt work, how can you say that a system were less than 2% of the people exploit and control the others "work"? What makes a system "work"?

Now it strikes me as odd that if western equipment is so good, then why is the AK-47 still the most widely used firearm in the world?

A gun is a gun. The AK-47 just happens to be easily available to any would-be terrorist who wants one. Yet another positive legacy of Communism :roll: Try comparing equipment that actually has differences, like planes or tanks. In Iraq, the US have lost one tank, whereas Iraq (using Soviet equipment) have lost a lot more. Draw your own conclusions.
As for the space race, while the Soviets put the first man into space, that was merely the first step of the space race. Assuming the Soviets "won" because of that would be akin to assuming the person leading a marathon after half a mile has already won the race. The space race ended at the moon, and guess who got there first?
And yes, Cuba and North Korea aren't really communist, but in the absence of any actual Communist state (barring tribes of primitives, which could be seen as Communist, but since they haven't experienced capitalism it's not as though they've made a choice on the matter) the places to draw evidence from are restricted to those states which claim to be communist. All of which just happen to be brutal dictatorships. Again, draw your own conclusions, and stop trying to derail things with further propaganda-fuelled mutterings. This is a peace conference, not the debating society.

So the war is over?

Bah, I'm going to regret doing....first of all ANY WEAPON that kills people is bad. Period. The AK-47 being used by anyone is bad, terrorist, capitalist or whatever. Second the AK-47 is the basis for most MODERN arms as well as being used itself. Third Iraq was using WW2 tanks, NOT MODERN TANKS.

I've been wanting to drag this out of OOC flam-bates but YOU PEOPLE keep spouting your stupid nonsense both IC and OOC that I and obviously others feel the need to correct you on simply because YOU ARE WRONG.

Argh, the great irony in all this is that you are all products of an educational and media system that has pumped you full of propaganda. You think anyone who argues contrary are the ones propagandizing...*sigh* another failure of the public school system.

IC: The Plenzonian Foreign minister safely lands and makes her way to the consulate. (no it's not a descriptive action but SOMEONE has to do something already)

So the war is over?

I'm with you, WTH is going on? A summary by the host would be nice.

Well this has gotten really off basis, essentially there is no war and this all started with Volstik executing some communists who had a supposed "trial". Since most countries that try people with a differant idealology then theirs tend to put on rigged trials rather then real ones (and this applies to all countries equally so don't start flaming me on this) Galdania, who was the home nation of these so called spies, is up in arms over it and The Belmore Family has taken his side on the matter (if I remember). I on the other hand have been neutral on the matter trying to take a diplomatic route with this, but should war be forced upon us I would have to side with Galdania.

After alot of flaming there are peace confrences in a neutral third party nation who is currently awaiting the arrival of the delegates of which I think only mine and BF's got there. All the major players in the RP have been silent since this turned to a screaming match (and I don't blame them) and I'm hoping now that it's over theyll come back and continue this.

Since we are not getting enough replies, we will not be hosting anything. We withdraw from this issue.

Capitalists are slime. nuff said.

called satalites seeing troop movments

point the iraqi's were fighting with sovet tanks in disrepair and about 20-30 years old in contrast the US were fighting using modern tanks fitted with top of the range tech. the yanks are trained in the opperation of tanks althow still qute efficent at destroying each other. the iraqies were probably just given a tank and told to destroy americans. altow the M16 is a good wepon technically the AK 47 is good because of it's siplicity to use the SA-80 is rubbish "how were we suppose to know there was sand in the desert and water in the sea."

Well at least the german army held out long enough that the soviets didn't subjegate all of europe.

since the commies obviously can't put their money where their mouth is I'm done with this spiel.

Volstik: 2
Galdania: 0

I side with the communists...

OOC: I recommend that people stop dropping BS posts about transferring a million battle fleets to ComIntern before they understand what the hell is going on. Volstik is a power gamer of a bad stripe, and I personally recommend ignoring his posts.

OOC: In reply to the least post OOC by Plenzonia:
14 yo, where'd that one come from? America, where is Hirgizstan located, go check i actually live there. Quals don't mean much to me, its just a means of justification and you obviously have no quals yourself otherwise you wouln't slander those who have worked for them, worked more than lazy communists. And i actually used to be a communist so there is no point in giving me a lecture on the finer points of Universal Menshevism or Revolutionary Bolshevism/Leninism. If you didn't read into the NK situation then you made it up, or lied in your dialect. Read some sort of international politcal report, it would be a good idea for you, find out where communism really stands in this world, or let me tell you. NK, the only hard-line stalinist country left, the last true commie country. China-Selective Democratic Socialism, moving away from Dialectical Maoism, finally Vietnam-Selective Socialism. The government of Cyprus is also communism but bo commie polcies have been introduced due to a supposed drop in tourism.

And you mentioned something about the battle of Kursk, a tank battle, yes a definitve one, the results of which went into Russian military doctrine on exactly how to win a close-in tank battle, of which there are none, thus Kursk's lessons are wholly outdated due to the nature of Ground warfare in today's world. Also if at Kursk there had been no T-34's then the russkies would have been done for. German tank design was light years ahead before the T-34 appeared. Even then ther Germans went one better in the form of the King Tiger, perhaps if it had been mass-produced could have saved the Germans, as on two accounts, one of the Russian front near Berlin and the other somewhere in the Bocage, the KT held off entire allied advances, not a wing of Kt's a single one.

IC. The Hirgizstanian Foreign Minister took off from Lamoba AFB at 1100 this morrning. The plane should arrive for the peace delgation shortly. The FM will be accompanied by 10 security personnell equipped with HK MP-7 SMG's and HK MK23 pistols.

OOC: I must say I agree with African Commonwealth. This conflict, if it can be called that, is based on a players paranoia and some gross misunderstandings.

I don't think I will participate in any warfare should it happen. When the average diplomatic reason for plunging your nation into the hell of warfare is

I wanna kick some commie ass. I'll send 16 Carrier Groups.

You know they're either joking or has a ten-year-old as head of state...

IC:

We highly condemn the idiotic outbursts by Xerlox, Volstik and Dark Terror(a nation we do not believe to exist?)((Ignored)), and also their irresponsible and senseless attempts to stir up war between the ComIntern and the immoral capitalist empires of the world. We strictly urge leaders of all democratic nations, capitalist or otherwise, to disregard Volstik's mad urgings.

M. Lykketoft,
Ministry of Foreign Affairs.

It's starting to become painfully obvious that you have nothing intelligent to say. You don't bother to read anything in depth; you are obviously skimming before you go blindly attacking with your somewhat illegible and increasingly sophmoric "arguments". I never said you were 14 but you are beginning to show a strong resemblance to a child with a thesaurus in the way you argue. No matter, I'm not going to waste any more time with you, the RP here is dead and there is no point to keep posting.

Due to the total lack of sense and so on and so fourth Layarteb is fully withdrawing all forces from this region and conflict. We regret that this RP has turned into a mess of uselessness and wish full luck on our capitalist allies and so on and so fourth. If some order and sense comes to this we will be happy to send forces again to fight against the communists.

Good day!

:: Mind you if you need forces and wish to continue discussion do so with telegram as it is easier, quicker, and less cluttered. ::

FM's plane has been turned around, there will be no Hirgizstanian element at the peace conference, all forces on active footings due to this incident have been stood down.

This war is f***ing pathetic. Galdania has never declared war on Volstik since this thing started, and no communist country has raised a finger. This whole conflict has been nothing but capitalist war mongering, and they keep going even though Galdania has SAID it will do nothing. And most of you guys just throw your soldiers around because you have many of them, Andorice's soldiers are honored in Andorice by many holidays through the year, and with Andorice's constant attempts to stay peaceful.

OOC: Also, this thread has been reduced to nerds on a forum spouting off how much they know about history. Hey guys, I like history, but I don't come here to try to make myself feel superior by trying to force everything I know down everyone's throats. Finally, I didn't pick the pink country on the map. :|

Hey I got an idea....how about we all leave the capitalists to it while they fight each other....

**Message to all Comunist nations opposing us*

1. You sign a peace treaty with all members of Cominteran
2. You make sure that all history education gives an unbias view of Communism
3. None of your citizens will ever touch Cominteran land.
4. You are hereby given a trading restriction from all Comunist countries eg/you are not allowed to trade with Communist Nations.

That is all, good day to you.

Finally, I didn't pick the pink country on the map. :|
Do you want a different colour?

From the ministery of accidents:

This was not a double post! There a no double posts in TBF.

http://www.welovetheiraqiinformationminister.com/images/story.sahaf.mon.jpg

OOC:This picture was found on my fave site http://www.welovetheiraqiinformationminister.com.

Finally, I didn't pick the pink country on the map. :|
Do you want a different colour?
Lol no, it doesn't bother me, I was just joking.

**Message to all Comunist nations opposing us*

1. You sign a peace treaty with all members of Cominteran
2. You make sure that all history education gives an unbias view of Communism
3. None of your citizens will ever touch Cominteran land.
4. You are hereby given a trading restriction from all Comunist countries eg/you are not allowed to trade with Communist Nations.

That is all, good day to you.

This is further evidence of the imperialistic nature of Comintern. Not content with attempting to force their warped views onto right thinking peoples, they now attempt to coerce other communist nations into becoming mere vassals.
It is now becoming painfully obvious that Comintern is a menace to all nations, not just capitalist ones. While we may have had our differences in the past, communists and capitalists are now faced with a common enemy, an enemy whom we must destroy before more nations are forced to bend before their whims.

OOC: I think for alot of the people here, history in one way or another is related to their job, at least it is for me.

IC:
*The Plenzonian foreign minister mysteriously vanishes as she travels back to her homeland, before she left she issued the following statement*

"Right thinking people"? There is no such thing. The ideas of "right" and "wrong" are proven to be based in a particular society. To you, socialism would be wrong partly due to your society, but in Plenzonia and many other nations we don't feel it to be a "wrong" kind of thinking and argue that we are freer and more equal then those under capitalist favoring governments.

With this said, we must agree that the proclaimation of The Belmore Family is a bit harsh, we advise all nations that members of the Comintern are not vassals of Galdania or The Belmore Family. The Plenzonian authority takes no orders from ANY foreign nation despite what the implication is.

Capitalizt, you known your philosphy is there only for your own gain, gain from birth right. Where the rich will remain rich and the poor will remain poor.

Communist countries don't need trade from other countries(considering there should be no method of profit or exchange), we only make what we need, no excessive destruction of forests or land, but rather we might want(not need) items from other countries. An embargo is not needed, it is silly and unthoughtful.

This is not the way the "free" nations should act, and if you picked up any knowledge of communism then you would have known that communism is freedom, there is are limit of civil rights, there are no writen laws, government is runned by communes, not a centralized oppressive dictator who tells you that you need to work or starve.

Communism is peaceful, True communists wish for no quarrel, you Capitalizts are the agressors and your population will notice it. My people will fight till the end to stop the spread of this tyrannically rule of one class oppressing the other.

It is silly to start wars and to fight in them, but if all peaceful means are exchausted my people will join the fight to end ruthless dictators, vote buying Capitalizt, and war mongers.

I ask your to reverse your invasion plans and remove your troops from any peaceful and kind nation's border, or I will be forced to convince the Worker's Militia that they need to stand united and to elect a temporary General to end this silly imperialist venture, and we will support the overthrow of any dictatorships who take part in this war.

Elected Voice of the People, Lief Knutsson

lol @ the commies

They must be afraid to come get a small 130mil pop country...

TO LATE S*CCER COMMUNISSEM RULLEZZZZZZZZZZZ THE WORLD

lol @ the commies

They must be afraid to come get a small 130mil pop country...

Your understanding of politics and diplomacy is laughable...

lol @ the commies

They must be afraid to come get a small 130mil pop country...

ok my region has 2 communist states of 500mil and others about my. size anyway your democracy is just brilliant what a great way of improving international ties.its like me saying capitalist scum!!!

Even though i may have arrived a tad late, i have decided to support Volstik in this, altough I am not sure that war over someones form of government is exactley right.... ah well. Other nations from Plutopia may intervene later.

wow 500 million population...

Volstik has support from several 1 billion pop+ countries,plus a 2.4 billion pop nation

lol @ the commies

They must be afraid to come get a small 130mil pop country...

Your understanding of politics and diplomacy is laughable...
he understands that commies such as you and galdania are spineless and weak.

lol @ the commies

They must be afraid to come get a small 130mil pop country...

Your understanding of politics and diplomacy is laughable...
he understands that commies such as you and galdania are spineless and weak.

You know I'd roll my eyes at that comment, but I don't think it's insulting enough. Then I realize if I supply a deep insight to how stupid your comment is and thereby how you obviously don't understand anything but mindless schoolground insults, it would go right over your head. So therefore...

*rolls eyes*

haha, you got owned coward

This war is f***ing pathetic. Galdania has never declared war on Volstik since this thing started, and no communist country has raised a finger. This whole conflict has been nothing but capitalist war mongering, and they keep going even though Galdania has SAID it will do nothing. And most of you guys just throw your soldiers around because you have many of them, Andorice's soldiers are honored in Andorice by many holidays through the year, and with Andorice's constant attempts to stay peaceful.

OOC: Also, this thread has been reduced to nerds on a forum spouting off how much they know about history. Hey guys, I like history, but I don't come here to try to make myself feel superior by trying to force everything I know down everyone's throats. Finally, I didn't pick the pink country on the map. :|

I agree. The U.S. STILL has plans from long ago locked up in some dusty office, regarding how to invade Canada. Did they invade (after 1812)? No.
Will they invade (again)? No.

As I said, most of the people here have no idea how the political and diplomatic world works and therefore really have no right to post their philestine, inane comments. This was a POLITICAL and DIPLOMATIC problem, which war was the LAST AND UNLIKELY RESORT. I'm obviously getting sick of dealing with childish fools who just leap in and are obviously oblivious on how to RP like an intelligent person.

It's obvious none of the "core" capitalist nations in this want to RP seriously because they are some of these people, and the capitalists who DO have a brain seem to have gotten sick and left a LONG time ago.

To sum all this up for the children: No fights in this schoolyard, now go along and play in the street and let the adults talk.

Making threats is an established part of diplomacy. Just because you haven't been paying attention to world affairs in the last 60yrs e.g. "Hand over bin Laden or we invade", "Saddam Hussein should resign or we invade", "Stop ethnically cleansing or we invade", "Get out of Kuwait or we invade", "Don't invade Poland or we declare war", etc
See the pattern emerging? Now you can spout off your ravings about how making threats is not a part of diplomacy, or you can have a look at when threats are part of diplomacy, and accept that Gunboat Diplomacy is just as legitimate as "Let's all sit around and hug each other" diplomacy, if not more so.

Garrison II promises to aid Volstik

OOC: Let this thread die, man. And for those wondering, I think the commies are the only half-way decent RP'ers here.

Augusgrad, graduate from ground school before lecturing others. This is a RP - you know? We do it for fun, not for throttling others with imaginary armies and thinking we can boss people around 'cause you got more numbers in a fiction population on a screen...

The newly formed nation of Tathan-Otho wishes to support you in this important military action. Let our prime minister know if you need any ships, troops, or supplies.

I had no intention of bieng diplomatic with someone who threathens me with invasion for no reason

I had no intention of bieng diplomatic with someone who threathens me with invasion for no reason

We have been attacked by Volstik before. We have no prof to suggest that they will not attack again.