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Galdanian politicians have sent letters, made phone calls, sent e-mails, and initiated corrispondance between Galdania and the U.N., calling for the King of Volstik to stand trial for Crimes Against Humanity, for executing people due to their political affiliations.

Galdania calls on all U.N. member nations to condemn Volstik and to apply diplomatic pressure upon the nation to force it's King to stand trial in Geneva.

That would mean that communists are humans, which they are not.

Interesting that people in Volstik have more political freedoms than those in Galdania.

Communists are neither "innoncent" nor "people" like you say.

If communists are not human, then a capitalist is a are slave-owning, whip cracking, inbred blue-blood demon as capitalism taken to the extent you obvious are taking it is a system that is based solely on every one of the Christian's "seven deadly sins".

But since I'm not as crude as most of you, I'll give you a better reason why capitalism isn't so wonderful as you think. Capitalism stresses economic "freedom" which does sound good on paper, but in the long run IF YOU STUDY REALITY ends up in oppression of the vast majority of the people. You want REAL capitalism? Look at America's "Gilded Age".

Communism IN REALITY has NEVER been tried on a large scale except in small African tribes which could very well be defined as quasi-Utopian. The USSR was NOT communist, it was authotarian with a planned economy, China was similar. Cuba and Korea and all the other "small communist" nations are all just dictatorships. You are using the wrong word because it's propaganda from a by-gone age to hate communism, you fools will be saying the same thing about terrorists and muslims if you had your way...

oh we dont claim not to oppress the people, commies are publically hanged.

And check out the region The Gulag Bunch, it might be one of the last things you do as a sovereign nation.

commies are publically hanged.

As they are in Layarteb. Good work!

commies are publically hanged.

As they are in Layarteb. Good work!
Ill stop hijacking the thread now, but check TG's in 2 min.

In light of the hateful, backwards views expressed by 'the gulag bunch' we have no choice but to condemn these evil, cowardly empires who are too afraid to allow any political dissidence. The execution of humans for their political beliefs is murder and should be treated as such. The fact that some nations continue to show such idiotic, hatefilled views is saddening.

Unfortunate as it is the world is still inhabited by such backward thinking peoples. One day they shall learn the error of their ways, not at baynet's end as they wish to impose on the enlightened, but after years of self-searching and reflection.

It is my hope that one day the nations of Xerlox, Free Rumania and Dark Terror reach this enlightenment before they murder again.

Supreme Councilor Vladimir Lenin III

This concerns only U.N. members.

Galdania shall give the King of Volstik a choice: Stand trial at an international Human Rights trial in The Hague, or Galdania will get U.N. backing to bring the King to justice.

Personal Statement from Premier Bomfy

If there is proper justification behind the killings, such as they were a threat to the political structure of the nation, then that is fine. If Galdania attempts anything to change the internal affairs of Volstik, you will be in breach of international law and I will be willing to enforce it by stopping any action against Volstik. We may not like what is going on in other nations, but nothing gives us the right to interfere with their internal affairs due to state sovereignty.

Good day.

http://www.redsun.org/images/lenin.gif
Premier Bomfy
People's Republic of Aequatio

Innocent people have been hanged in large numbers, not because theyt were a 'threat to political security', but because they heald different views than the ruling bourgeoisie. Slaughter is slaughter. The King of Volstik has committed Crimes Against Humanity. We demand that he stand trial. If he refused, he will prove his own guilt. For, if he is truly innocent, what does he have to fear?

If Galdania can provide evidence of it's accusations, Bar-en-Danwedh will support diplomatic action against Volstik.

As an UN nation, we will not support Galdania. We will be nertual.

Good day.

--Foreign Affairs Ministry

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Alright, as the Prime Minister of Bar-en-Danwedh, I support UN action against Volstik.

Innocent people have been hanged in large numbers, not because theyt were a 'threat to political security'

That sounds reasonable to me, I shot the Mafia Boss of Knootoss because he was a 'threat to my political security'.

The Head Boss
The Mafia Syndicate

But since I'm not as crude as most of you, I'll give you a better reason why capitalism isn't so wonderful as you think. Capitalism stresses economic "freedom" which does sound good on paper, but in the long run IF YOU STUDY REALITY ends up in oppression of the vast majority of the people. You want REAL capitalism? Look at America's "Gilded Age".



The difference is people condemn themselves to oppression, in a capitalist society everyone is given the chance to sink or swim, if you don't make it you only have yourself to blame, plus the government will also pay you to compensate for your failure as a human being.

A) The government helping you if you are a "failure as a human being" is an aspect of socialism, not capitalism.
B) People are not judged by their merits. This is why most capitalist countrie have little rich boys with an IQ of 60 in charge playing war and we wouldn't NEED affirmative action to make up for a century of oppression.
C) Social Darwinism is a cop-out of the illegitamantly empowered who most likely inherited their money or had to do a minimal amount of work and therefore it's logic is fundamentally flawed. I'm shocked in this day and age even the most rabid capitalist would use this as any kind of excuse

And more on topic...there is no such thing as "soveriegn power". We are all sentient beings...well...most of us are sentient beings. We all subscribe to government to provide for us and to protect us, and once that government stops to do that, it no longer has the right to exist. Therefore it is every human beings right to stand against oppression and the ruthless execution of dissidents for the sick and twisted pleasure of a single human being. This nonsense of "sovereignty" protecting these digusting beasts due to it being "internal affairs" is obviously untrue. Everyone has a loved one in another nation somewhere, or a friend, or a something. No nation is a world unto itself even if it is ON a world unto itself, therefore a strike against an innocent in one state is a strike against innocents in every state.

While I don't promote meddling in minor affairs, when it comes the execution of innocent people, then it is required. There is no proper justification for murder to prevent progress in a political system.

Plenzonia will support any U.N. action against any nation that indulges in this practice, be they communist, capitalist or anarchist.

Too bad Volstik isn't in the UN! So piss off with your BS allegations about me executing a few terrorists.

Volstik is a land of murderers. We recomend all freedom loving nations begin economic sanctions against Volstik until their king goes before an international court.

That will sure scare him straight. :roll:

Volstik is a land of murderers. We recomend all freedom loving nations begin economic sanctions against Volstik until their king goes before an international court.
*sigh*
We execute ALL commies and we dont even get a mention? Volstik only executes violent ones.

I don't see what's wrong with executing some terrorists that have been convicted of espionage

I don't see what's wrong with executing some terrorists that have been convicted of espionage

That was the point I was trying to make earlier, it is none of our concern that a nation is executing its people. The Reds are just getting their shit in knots because it was a few of their own that got hanged.

You don't see us executing people.

Volstik is a land of murderers. We recomend all freedom loving nations begin economic sanctions against Volstik until their king goes before an international court.
*sigh*
We execute ALL commies and we dont even get a mention? Volstik only executes violent ones.

OOC: Because last I checked we still have diplomatic relations...

Volstik is a land of murderers. We recomend all freedom loving nations begin economic sanctions against Volstik until their king goes before an international court.
*sigh*
We execute ALL commies and we dont even get a mention? Volstik only executes violent ones.

OOC: Because last I checked we still have diplomatic relations...
OOC: True..

Ha, Galdanias about to be shredded by xerlox!
IC: If you want, we can sell you our communists (we find a few thousand each year) instead of killing them. Say $50,000 per head?

Volstik is a land of murderers. We recomend all freedom loving nations begin economic sanctions against Volstik until their king goes before an international court.

We absolutely agree with Soviet Haaregrad proposal. We support our communist and progressive comrades in Volstik and we will give them all our help. We urge the King of Volstik to end their persecution, or to face the rebuttal and enemity of our country and all civil countries in the world.

Paolo

Hmmm

Wether or not to log in as xerlox and send in 8 battle fleets?

Better yet, volstik should just ignore all of galdania's allies until galdania recognizes DT and GII.

Hmmm

Wether or not to log in as xerlox and send in 8 battle fleets?

Better yet, volstik should just ignore all of galdania's allies until galdania recognizes DT and GII.
OOC:GII DOES have modern tech.

Yeah go ahead, Galdania told me he unignored you. Since youre a founder you can have The Gulag Bunch help you.

Oh yeah, selling commies might be profitable
IC:We issue a friendly suggestion to Soviet Haaregrad: stay neutral!
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Ministry of Foreign Extortions
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Sergei Valudov, Minister of Foreign Extortions

OOC:Does anything around here boil down to childishness? I swear I've seen 12 year olds act more maturely, either half of you really ARE 12 or you have some sort of personality disorder. I've yet to see any real intelligence around here without it ending up being "Me bigga den you, me nook you wit da big bomb dat go boom!"

We issue a friendly suggestion to Soviet Haaregrad: stay neutral!

Our intention is to support Socialism world-wide through mostly non-military means. We see no reason to intervene in militarily in this situation. Perhaps in exchange for our neutrality we could recieve any Communists and Socialists in your nation free of cost, with Haaregradia paying for transport?

Deal. We still have nazis to publically execute.

You should put the Nazis against the commies in gladiatorial matches!

You should put the Nazis against the commies in gladiatorial matches!
Eh.. I honor my treaties more or less. Nazis vs hippies, peace protesters, and any other dissidents (mainly catholics)!`

Deal. We still have nazis to publically execute.

While we still have to condemn that, we see no reason to try to save them.

<secret message from the Supreme Councilor>

Have fun with that, we recomend baseballs bats or pennies from very high.

</secret>

OOC:
And if any of you ask who I am to kill both commies and nazis? Russian Jew who despises either one! Not that the capitalists are doing any better in russia, but thas another matter....
IC:
<response to secret message>
We've taken the Rumanians suggestions and decided to use them as gladiators. Now they can play with the lions and tigers!

OOC:
And if any of you ask who I am to kill both commies and nazis? Russian Jew who despises either one! Not that the capitalists are doing any better in russia, but thas another matter....
IC:
<response to secret message>
We've taken the Rumanians suggestions and decided to use them as gladiators. Now they can play with the lions and tigers!
isn't klamath a russian jew too? but he lives in israel haha

OOC:
And if any of you ask who I am to kill both commies and nazis? Russian Jew who despises either one! Not that the capitalists are doing any better in russia, but thas another matter....
IC:
<response to secret message>
We've taken the Rumanians suggestions and decided to use them as gladiators. Now they can play with the lions and tigers!
isn't klamath a russian jew too? but he lives in israel haha
OOC:
:shock: :shock:
Lets see we use the same sites, both support the communists ONLY in russia, both are russian jews, and both develop mil equipment on NS like no tommorow!

OOC:
And if any of you ask who I am to kill both commies and nazis? Russian Jew who despises either one! Not that the capitalists are doing any better in russia, but thas another matter...

OOC: Where are you from IRL?

OOC:
And if any of you ask who I am to kill both commies and nazis? Russian Jew who despises either one! Not that the capitalists are doing any better in russia, but thas another matter...

OOC: Where are you from IRL?
OOC:
St. Petersburg

OOC:
And if any of you ask who I am to kill both commies and nazis? Russian Jew who despises either one! Not that the capitalists are doing any better in russia, but thas another matter...

OOC: Where are you from IRL?
OOC:
St. Petersburg

Cool, you use the Manitoba flag so I thought you might be Canadian...

Im am soo Mr.T...........I Pitty the Foo who goes before the World Court!

Weather a nation is within the U.N. does not matter. There are lawqs that all nations must obey.

There are lawqs that all nations must obey.
No there aren't.

And there are nations who dont obey them and will bash your head in.

So true.

Also Xerloxian engineers will be arriving in Volstik to help set up shore defenses. 10 Infantry divisions, 5 Mech Infantry divisions, and 15 Armored divisions are bieng transported to Volstik.

I Chochezkoo, We smile upon communism.

At least when its done right

Xerlox may do whatever it wishes with it's puppet.

OOC: XERLOX=VOLSTIK.

obviously

Remember thios, capitalist nations: If you oppress the workers, they will stop working. And when the workers make nothing for the rich, your system crumbles.

Remember thios, capitalist nations: If you oppress the workers, they will stop working. And when the workers make nothing for the rich, your system crumbles.

Remember thios, capitalist nations: If you oppress the workers, they will stop working. And when the workers make nothing for the rich, your system crumbles.

Ahahahaha! Ahahahaha!

Our military equipment prices dropped after we scrapped minimum wage laws and banned them from strike!

Ahahahahahaha! Who said it crumbles? It works efficently!

Hagraks Ukansas, CEO
Omzian Military Aerospace Corporation, a Department of the Omzian People's Liberation Air Force

The united anarcho-syndicalist communes of Neo-Anarchos supports diplomatic action against the senseless brutality of Volstik.

Regards,
Tias Guerrero,
Senior spokesman of the RCS.

The People's Republic of Scandinavia condemns the actions of Volstik, and we will take part in diplomatic action against Volstik, even if we have to do it unilaterelly.

The capitailst pigs, born and bred in fortified silver palaces, would never know about of the plight of a worker, even if one shoved a pick up their backsides. Thus, childish(and undeniably fascist) claims that communists are "not people", should be met with pitiless ignorance.

M. Lykketoft,
Minister of Foreign Relations.

Today in Johnistani, 3 members of the underground Communist party were executed and another 20 deported to Galdania. The 3 that were executed were found with explosives and weapons and have shown intention to blow up civilain and military targets. The 20 that were deported had Communist writings and paraphinalia.

OOC: Seriously though, in Galdania there are capitalists, in capitalist nations there must be communists.

I just deported 20 of mine to your nation

"We all subscribe to government to provide for us and to protect us, and once that government stops to do that, it no longer has the right to exist."

The idea of a Capitalist society died when the people forced the government to provide for their every need. Don't blame the government, blame yourselves.

((By the way, nice spelling "...government STOPS DOING THAT,..."


-Xax Tyran III

If the workers strike, they are all executed and replaced with refugees.

If the workers strike, they are all executed and replaced with refugees.

Why would anyone go to Dark Terror to be a worker when they are guarenteed better treatment and pay in Galdania? Not to mention free healthcare, education, etc.

Maybe because Galdania only exists in communist propaganda packets as their mythical paradise?

And we have rather "creative" ways of executing on strike workers.

Maybe because Galdania only exists in communist propaganda packets as their mythical paradise?

And we have rather "creative" ways of executing on strike workers.

Propaganda packets? Do you mean the $11,500 entertainment bonuses we give to all citizens? Essentially it is the only 'pay' in our nation, but since everything needed to live is supplied by the government, Galdanians often live better lives than many other peoples.

Maybe because Galdania only exists in communist propaganda packets as their mythical paradise?

And we have rather "creative" ways of executing on strike workers.

Galdanians have more freedoms than Bisons. Striking workers are not killed or imprisoned in Galdania. They may be seen as troublemakers, as in Galdania there is no need to strike, but they are protected by the police.

Maybe because Galdania only exists in communist propaganda packets as their mythical paradise?

And we have rather "creative" ways of executing on strike workers.

Galdanians have more freedoms than Bisons. Striking workers are not killed or imprisoned in Galdania. They may be seen as troublemakers, as in Galdania there is no need to strike, but they are protected by the police.
Now we deport them to soviet haaregrad (they pay for it), but we still use nazis and hippies in gladiator matches. In DT there is also rarely a need to strike not because the workers deserve an OK life (we have a massive military budget but part of it is used to run military-based schools. Basically you get a good education then serve 5 years in the army), but because happy workers create less trouble and keep the work efficient.

"We all subscribe to government to provide for us and to protect us, and once that government stops to do that, it no longer has the right to exist."

The idea of a Capitalist society died when the people forced the government to provide for their every need. Don't blame the government, blame yourselves.

((By the way, nice spelling "...government STOPS DOING THAT,..."


-Xax Tyran III

First, don't insult my spelling, I'm only human therefore I'm allowed to make mistakes. This is of course assuming I don't start writing in leetspeak, then feel free. Second, it's GRAMMAR you're correcting, not spelling. Lastly....you're make no sense since I'm saying government should provide for all their needs and therefore would NOT be strictly capitalist.

That is beside the point because you're wrong to begin with. Many Northern European countries are capitalist and provide craddle-to-grave medical coverage and of course ANY nation worth anything provides a good education free of charge. The problem is the quality of education in alot of places is horrible until you hit the college level.