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Should Quinntonia pursue peace in Dra-pol?

Quinntonia
01-11-2003, 03:55
Quinntonia is a Christian Theocracy that espouses compassionate and democratic values. We have been embroiled in a brutal war that has a death toll sitting over 2,000,000 people, not a few which are civilians. There has been deployments of WMD, most notably mustard gas, aimed at large civilian centers and several million troops are invloved on both sides.
It all started with a cultural misunderstanding. You see, we were in contact with a boatload of several hundred refugees, they were from Central Asia and were looking for a new home to live in peace. We were offering them humanitarian assistance and suddenly lost all contact with them. When we launched a search to find them, we came upon the xenophobic land of Dra-pol. The people, as we found out later were absolutely forbidden to have outside contact, to the point where the people were told that all non- Dra-poel were Zombie Demons!!!! So, when we came out of the mists looking for the refugees, they assumed we were there to take their souls and reacted quite violently. We also found out later that they fired upon and sunk the ship containing the several hundred innocent refugees we were looking for. Eventually, after a brief conflict that resulted in contact with the Dra-pol being opened up, but at the cost of a few hundred lives.
Duriong the next few years, we sent at no expense of theirs thousands upon thousands of missionaries came in the form of teachers, technicians, mechanics, doctors, nurses, engineers, care workers and thousands of unskilled but enthusiastic labourer volounteers came to Dra-pol to help their people. We educated them for free, helped build roads, irrigation ditches, fishing operations, agricultural programs, and free healthcare. We also built hospitals, schools, care facilities and many other infrastructure improvements to care for the people. At our own expense. We then promised to buils them an international harbour to stimulate trade and a huge manufacturing center around it to provide them with self-built products and allow the people an opprotunity to learn skills that would serve them in the modern nation. They, of course returned the favor by allowing a city known as Hamhung to become SOVERIEGN Quinntonian territory, so that we could make sure that the harbour and manufacturing center was not used to make weapons of war. Then, we promised to educate the first several thousand of the Dra-poel citisens that were eligable in our Quinntonian universities for free. Inshort, we spent billions on their nation, expecting nothing in return.
They repayed this kindness with a sneak attack on our city, now known as Quinntonian Dra-pol, that killed over a hundred thousand in the first two weeks. This included over 100,000 innocent civilains with WMD, including chemical weapons. WE retaliated this unprovoked attack by forming a Coalition of allied nations with the express puropse of deposing the current regime. This escalated to a full scale armed conflict with huge losses on either side. There has been some feeble attempts at peace, but now we are considering a long-term cease-fire. I am here to ask, should we pursue peace with such an obviously dictatorial state? They pretend to be of a communist bent, but are not even true to that philosophy. Instead, they use it as an excuse to hold onto power. They have exocuted tens of thousands of political prisoners and tens of thousands of people were arrested for the crime of having the wrong faith. Because they had a faith and belief that didn't fit with the government line, they were arrested, tortured and exocuted publically. Our Coalition had people of several faiths, and some that were aetheist working together against the Dra-poel regime, however, the Dra-pol government has insisted on calling us "The Crusader Coalition," in order to garner international support. It is unfortunate, as we are not a war-like people, but we must defend ourselves and will lay down our lives to defend the weak and defenseless of Dra-pol, even if we have to do it against their own government.
WHAT SHOULD WE DO? PUSUE PEACE, OR NOT?
WWJD
Amen.

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Dra-pol
01-11-2003, 04:09
Should Quinntonia pursue a peace offered by the wise and beloved Director Kurosian of the Drapoel People's Republic?

-This would be in Drapoel eyes a more accurate assesment of the situation at hand.

It is perhaps also worth noting that Dra-pol never wanted to be in such a terrible situation again- hence the closure of the nation some three generations ago. The last peace -extended again by Dra-pol- was fractured when members of Quinntonia's Crusader Coalition (namely the Raysians) bombed Drapoel forces moving inside their own borders, during that so called cease-fire. Dra-pol's little capital, DaKhiem, was for a second time bombed into dust by the technologically superior invaders, and it was this second blitz which brought on the deployment of FROG-7B missiles against Hamhung.

It is noted by the republic that the poll at this stage favours continued war. We hope, comrades, that your misdirected nations never find themselves in such a deadly situation, and faced with such little mercy.

-Secretary Hotan.
Quinntonia
01-11-2003, 04:19
Having problems with the poll, sorry.
WWJD
Amen.
Darkness Forever
01-11-2003, 05:27
WAR! WAR! WAR!
BANE II LIVES!!
Quinntonia
01-11-2003, 18:44
BUMP!
WWJD
Amen.
Quinntonia
02-11-2003, 07:18
BUMP!
Please, I would like the international community's thoughts.
WWJD
Amen.
02-11-2003, 07:36
As we said when we left, you should have left too. You can not free a nation that does not want to be freed. When we bombed out their Capitol, all it did was make them stronger, their population was that brainswashed into loyalty. You would have to kill over half of the Dra-Pol population to save the other half... That is pointless genocide, my friend, and we won't be part of it.

If somehow you did kill off all loyal and put a new government in power, how would forcing them into chrstianity do anything to help? You would be JUST AS BAD as the original leader.

Your intentions are good, but the action is immoral.

If it were a few, then yes, the needs of the few outweigh the needs of the many, one man die than a whole nation dwindle and all that stuff... but if it is an entire nation, then why bother?

You never really said why you were going to war, or how you planned to win, either.
Quinntonia
03-11-2003, 00:47
The thread is posted for your perusement, you can see where I explained why we were going to war. To dae, we have never forced anyone to convert to our faith. and would never dream of doing so. But, the amount of converts in Dra-pol has passed the 45 million mark at last count. One soul is enough for all the angels in Heaven to rejoice, I cannot in good consiense turn my back on that many. And, whether they were Christians or not, we would fight and die to defend them and we only want one thing for them, to secure for them the freedom to choose. if they choose to become Hindus or Buddists or Muslims, so be it. However, they seem to be choosing to become Christians. That is great too. But, the important thing is that they have the freedom to choose.
WWJD
Amen.
03-11-2003, 02:09
Sacrificing lives to bring the Gospel? What are you, British?! All who have not had a chance to hear the Gospel will hear it in the next life. This war is not worth it! Go after actually DANGEROUS nations! Like the ones that Genocide!
Quinntonia
04-11-2003, 02:18
Sacrificing lives to bring the Gospel? What are you, British?! All who have not had a chance to hear the Gospel will hear it in the next life. This war is not worth it! Go after actually DANGEROUS nations! Like the ones that Genocide!
The next life? Unfortunately, that is a differemnce in theology, we believ that the next "life" as you call it will come with death and result in judgement and your residement in either hell or Heaven. But, we are not fighting to bring the Gospel, we are fighting to protect innocent civilians who have found it, as well as those who haven't yet.
WWJD
Amen.